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00:00:06:04 – 00:00:43:16
Nathan Crane
Welcome back to the podcast. I am truly excited about this episode. I have my friend Dr. Jerry Curatola here with us and we are going to be covering the ins and outs of dental health care, especially one of the things that maybe we’ve either been lied to, misunderstood or don’t understand about the mouth body connection, about the microbiome, the microflora in the in our mouths, and the importance of that, the tooth meridian connection.

00:00:44:02 – 00:01:08:02
Nathan Crane
We’re talking about implants and cavities and what you need to know to prevent and heal, to have not only healthy teeth and healthy gums and a healthy mouth, but the direct connection to chronic disease and your teeth. I’ve actually done extensive research on the connection between dental health and cancer specifically, and we know there’s a direct correlation there between specific cancers in the body and dental health.

00:01:08:02 – 00:01:30:23
Nathan Crane
And when we know what to do with our mouth and take care of our mouth properly, take care of the bacteria properly, take care of our teeth properly, get the toxins out, put the good stuff in. Then really, sometimes miracles can happen and there’s nobody better to talk about that and nobody more experienced than Dr. Jerry Curatola. Jerry Mann, thanks for coming on the podcast.

00:01:30:23 – 00:01:32:10
Nathan Crane
I’m so excited for this conversation.

00:01:33:22 – 00:02:01:08
Gerry Curatola
My pleasure. I am always excited to to be connected with someone like yourself because I think you’re doing an awesome job, Nathan. And and getting the word out and helping people to, you know, really wake up. And I was particularly struck when you said, you know, people have been lied to and misinformed and all that. And you know what that’s happening in dental schools.

00:02:02:00 – 00:02:29:10
Gerry Curatola
And, you know, when I was when I was in dental school, for example, we know that amalgam fillings, what are often called silver fillings or 52% mercury, 26% silver, they shouldn’t be called mercury fillings. Right. I mean, if you want to look at this in terms of fraudulent misrepresentation, calling a dental amalgam a silver filling is a fraudulent misrepresentation because the primary component is mercury.

00:02:29:16 – 00:02:56:11
Gerry Curatola
So I remember when I was a down school and I raised my hand and I was like, is it like mercury, the most toxic element on Earth? And and they go, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, Wait a minute. We’re mixing it together with all these other alloys copper, tin, silver, and we’re sticking it to inches from the brain.

00:02:56:11 – 00:03:21:21
Gerry Curatola
How could that be good? And they said to me, quote unquote, my instructor said, well, you know, the magic, the mercury is magically locked in. And I laugh. I’m like, it’s magically, you know, little, little did they know like about 12 years ago I was on the Dr. Oz show and there’s a whole segment called Toxic Fillings. The Dr. Oz did this whole thing.

00:03:21:21 – 00:03:43:01
Gerry Curatola
It really upset the American Dental Association, which was founded by Pro Mercury Geddes in the late 1800s. Pro amalgam dentists. Right? This was being introduced. There was a body of dentists that did it want dental amalgam in the body of dentists that said, hey, it’s great. It’s better than the they used to put lead in teeth around the revolutionary desk.

00:03:43:11 – 00:04:12:23
Gerry Curatola
They would they would fill teeth with LED. That didn’t work out too well. George Washington had a few of those and in addition to all kinds of issues. But amalgam was introduced, you know, in the late 1800s, right after the Civil War and and the American Dental Association was founded by Pro Mercury Dentists. And the American Dental Association had the patent on dental amalgam.

00:04:12:23 – 00:04:46:05
Gerry Curatola
So when we talk about misinformation, you know, fluoride is another issue that we can really, you know, sink our teeth into part of the expression. But fluoride is a neurotoxin as well. There’s over 70 studies and 72 studies linking drinking fluoridated water, lowering IQ in children. It is linked to kidney disease and even cancer. And we were still dumping it in the water.

00:04:46:05 – 00:05:12:24
Gerry Curatola
And it has been proven that it does not reduce decay. And yet in dental school they are. You talk about fluoride like a sacred cow for for dental health and as if it’s a nutrient fluoride is not a nutrient. It is not safe and effective. There are plenty of studies that show that it has not reduce the level of decay in population.

00:05:13:00 – 00:05:45:20
Gerry Curatola
Matter of fact, there are fluoridated communities with lower rates of decay and non fluoridated communities excuse me, like New Hampshire with lower rates of decay than fluoridated. Most of Western Europe is not Florida State and there has been statistically no difference in decay rates. Decay is all about sugar. It’s about an imbalance of your microbiome. It has nothing to do with a toxic halide chemical that is is revered and, you know, in dental institutions.

00:05:46:19 – 00:05:54:11
Gerry Curatola
And if they only did the research, they’d find out that it is not it’s not everything that they thought it was cracked up to be.

00:05:55:10 – 00:06:14:16
Nathan Crane
So I want to get I want to dig into a lot of this stuff with you during this podcast and before we get into fluoride. I want to stay on Mercury for a minute. Mercury, you mentioned Dr. Oz show that you are on it. Correct me if I’m wrong. I believe I saw that show a while back where he actually had a like a plexiglass box.

00:06:14:22 – 00:06:34:15
Nathan Crane
Right. And they had they had, I think, fake teeth in there with the same kind of mercury amalgams. And they were measuring because we’ve been told that the mercury does not leech out into your mouth. It doesn’t leach into your bloodstream. It’s totally safe in your mouth. Right. Which there’s a lot of us who dug deep into the research over the years and realize we’ve been lied to about that.

00:06:34:15 – 00:06:42:19
Nathan Crane
And so if that’s right, Dr. Oz show, they actually measured in that box the amount of mercury. I think all they did was like brush the teeth or something.

00:06:43:05 – 00:07:05:20
Gerry Curatola
They had it set up. It was like a plexiglass box, you’re right. And they had teeth in there. They had like a mechanical toothbrush. Yeah. Going over the teeth and and then they had a mercury vapor analyzer. Yes. In there. And as the brushing was going on, you saw this vapor being registered on this mercury vapor analyzer. I want to tell you something.

00:07:07:11 – 00:07:36:00
Gerry Curatola
Amalgam of gases, dental amalgam, mercury fillings, off gases. It’s all the time. You drink something hot, you grind your teeth, you brush your teeth every day. You get small amounts of off gassing. But the greatest amount of mercury exposure is when they’re first put in and when dentists drill them out. So you should never, ever, ever have a dentist drill out a dental amalgam without a safe removal protocol.

00:07:36:12 – 00:07:50:04
Gerry Curatola
Because, believe it or not, if OSHA went into dental offices when a dental amalgam was being taken out, they would be unsafe. Levels of mercury vapor with that dental office would be shut down. You get that.

00:07:50:07 – 00:08:01:03
Nathan Crane
You basically need so so one they showed right there you know conclusively that just brushing your teeth released unsafe levels of vapor mercury into the air.

00:08:01:04 – 00:08:25:03
Gerry Curatola
Right that was on there. Now the American Dental Association came back and said, well, it was done in a dry environment. Saliva keeps the vapor down. So, yeah, the mercury goes into the liver and you swallow it. You know, there are people with multiple amalgam fillings that all have all kinds of digestive problems. The symptoms of mercury toxicity and Alzheimer’s disease are identical.

00:08:25:06 – 00:08:28:03
Gerry Curatola
Line four, line. How about that?

00:08:28:14 – 00:08:56:05
Nathan Crane
Yeah, it’s a neuro it’s a neurotoxin. It’s literally we know that mercury literally poisons the brain, causes brain cellular brain damage, which can lead to to Alzheimer’s. Right. I mean, mercury is oh my gosh I pages of the damaging effects of mercury. It’s a carcinogen. It causes cancer. It’s a neurotoxin. It’s an addictive disruptor. I mean, it is like the probably the most poisonous thing that one of the most poisonous elements we know on the planet.

00:08:56:05 – 00:09:09:18
Nathan Crane
And yet we think it’s safe to put in our mouths, in our teeth. It just it blows my mind how that even, you know, made it, as you said, in 18, late 1800s, early 1900s. There’s a lot of money involved in this. Right.

00:09:09:18 – 00:09:47:08
Gerry Curatola
I got so excited. I knocked my glasses off. Yes, you are so right. One of the things that again, you know what I want to say and my daughter is in her first year at dental school and she has been, you know, around me for a long time, obviously. And she is very, very holistically minded. I mean, she’s a yogi and all this stuff, and she’s excited to go into dentistry to help people because she sees how biologic dentistry is so important to improve oral and systemic health, mental health, physical health, spiritual health.

00:09:47:08 – 00:10:21:12
Gerry Curatola
I mean, you name it, really, biologic dentistry is on the front line. You know, you cannot biohacking your body, your gut and your mind and everything else if you don’t have a healthy mouth. So here she is, dental school and she’s being fed archaic science that is not only inaccurate but harmful. And she’s being fed this garbage about fluoride, about dental milk and everything still to this day.

00:10:22:01 – 00:10:45:19
Gerry Curatola
And she’s horrified by it. And so she literally on the fluoride topic, she literally undressed the professor, but then she didn’t want to be scorned. And what was interesting, it’s like it’s like doctors and they’re consenting opinions about vaccines. They were afraid to speak up about. Wait a minute, wait a minute. All you’re doing is safety stat around this MRSA stuff and what’s going on here.

00:10:46:19 – 00:11:23:13
Gerry Curatola
They that the other dental students were actually kind of ganging up on her when she was speaking out as a consenting voice. So this is the part that I realized, wow, you know, the bit my biggest drive right now is to get into dental schools where I’m trying to get New York University to open the first Center for Integrative and Biologic Dentistry, just to understand the philosophy of that, that because, you know, everybody’s talking about it, you can’t dispute the oral systemic link.

00:11:23:13 – 00:11:34:01
Gerry Curatola
So I wrote this book, I don’t know if you remember I wrote this book in 2016. It came out was distributed by Hachette in 2017. There is a.

00:11:34:13 – 00:11:38:22
Nathan Crane
The mouth body for those who are only listening. He’s talking about the mouth, the body connection.

00:11:38:24 – 00:12:18:06
Gerry Curatola
Yeah, right, right. And now there’s obviously there are thousands and thousands of studies that inflammation in the mouth and toxicity in the mouth doesn’t only make your teeth bad, but it has profound systemic effects. And by the way, Dr. Weston Price, who is I think there should be a statue of him in front of the American Dental Association, Doctor Weston Price in 1917 was lecturing in to the Saint Louis Dental Society on the relationship of mouth infection to systemic disease.

00:12:18:18 – 00:12:50:10
Gerry Curatola
And he was scoffed at. He was literally they thought he was a quack. They didn’t believe it. And the reality is, is that now there’s a there’s an ocean, you know, oral systemic health association and all this stuff. But they’re still there. They’re in the right church, but they’re still swallowing these old, you know, fluoride and xylitol or amalgam is not bad, you know, root canals, you know, dun dun bile.

00:12:50:17 – 00:13:17:01
Gerry Curatola
I’ve even heard this term biologic root canal, which I love. It reminds me of jumbo shrimp and military intelligence. You cannot do a root canal and be biologic. Okay, because root canal is a was a great idea. But what we know now histologically 100% of root canal teeth produce end up toxins which are bacteria byproducts and bacterial byproducts.

00:13:17:06 – 00:13:26:19
Gerry Curatola
They’re inflammatory. They’re inflammatory. It’s a source of chronic inflammation. And it’s that chronic inflammation that really wrecks your body as well.

00:13:27:19 – 00:13:49:20
Nathan Crane
So I want to give a little background for people who don’t know you. You established the Biologic Dentistry Center in Rhode Island. You serve on the advisory board of the Bio Regulatory Medical Institute in Kentucky. Right. You’re the adjunct clinical associate professor in Carryall carry ology. I had to look up that word, by the way, before our interview.

00:13:50:04 – 00:14:01:02
Nathan Crane
And I love and I love the meaning of cardiology, like the prevention and treatment of like the basically a focus on prevention of decay of the teeth. Right.

00:14:01:11 – 00:14:32:05
Gerry Curatola
Right. The study of prevention and. Yeah, exactly. It’s you know, you would think it’s Carrie ology and comprehensive care, which that department, that New York University. You know, there’s the word the study of Carrie ology that really is a European derivative. And because we used to just call it restorative dentistry, you know, restorative dentistry, and now we can pull it carry ology, comprehensive care, which starts to shift the focus to the root causes of what’s causing dental caries.

00:14:32:19 – 00:14:59:16
Nathan Crane
I love it. And and for those who don’t know, you also established the Curatola wing for clinical research at NYU back in 2006 to further support oral, oral, systemic translational research. You’re also the recipient of the Acton Medal from NYU for outstanding contributions to the university. You’re listed in the Guide to America’s Top Dentists, the leading Physicians of the World, The Top Dance in New York, and definitely a pioneer in or oral microbiome research and dental toxicity.

00:14:59:16 – 00:15:20:19
Nathan Crane
So you’re definitely more than highly qualified to be speaking on the subject and the term biologic. So can you define that for people? Because it’s just like integrative medicine is kind of becoming a buzzword or holistic medicine. I went to a vet the other day who calls herself a holistic vet, and when I went there she had a bunch of garbage.

00:15:20:19 – 00:15:34:14
Nathan Crane
She had the worst dog food on the shelves full of sugar and toxins. She had the worst treats. She I asked her about, you know, this this flea medication that she puts on her dogs. And and I know that medication. It’s very toxic. It’s very poorly.

00:15:34:14 – 00:15:35:15
Gerry Curatola
With toxic chemicals.

00:15:35:15 – 00:15:50:11
Nathan Crane
Right? Yeah. And I asked her, like, what, you know, what do you think about this? And she got all defensive and she was and I guess the reason she called herself holistic because she had like a little red light therapy or something. I’m like, dude, this is not holistic medicine, you know, holistic, biological, integrative.

00:15:50:18 – 00:15:52:05
Gerry Curatola
You said that people.

00:15:52:05 – 00:16:02:05
Nathan Crane
Are just like taking this word as a buzzword, I think, for marketing. And they have yeah, they’re definitely not holistic. So can you define what a biological dentist.

00:16:02:07 – 00:16:27:06
Gerry Curatola
Thank you. Thank you. Email. I want to tell you something and you and I, both spiritual guys and biologic married biologic dentistry is rooted in biologic medicine. Biologic medicine is a philosophy of care. It is not biologic dentistry. And biologic medicine is not a specialty. It’s not like, oh my, my, but you know, I’m a I’m a, you know, oral surgeon.

00:16:27:21 – 00:16:55:11
Gerry Curatola
Biologic dentistry is a philosophy of care and it is based on a deep rooted principle that we have. It’s probably one of the most, you know, not to use a very trite term, but it’s it’s a very holistic philosophy that brings together. And it was really the connector for me for bringing together mind, body, spirit in our work.

00:16:55:11 – 00:17:19:14
Gerry Curatola
And mind body spirit is more than a cliche. It’s more than an expression. So biologic medicine believes in biologic chemistry being a part of that, that we have a life force. We in biologic medicine, we call it the field and either Veda, they call it Prana in Chinese medicine, they call it QI. In the Western world, we call it our spirit.

00:17:20:04 – 00:17:44:07
Gerry Curatola
But typically we call it a field. It’s an electromagnetic field. It can be quantified, extends from our body. It was always kind of I always knew I was a spiritual guy. I always felt spirit in me, you know, and I always wanted to be connected to that higher power God. I always knew that from when I was a little boy, but I never could quantify it.

00:17:44:10 – 00:18:15:21
Gerry Curatola
And so there is a life force. And in biologic medicine we call it the field that gives us the divine capacity to self-regulate and heal. In other words, we are made in such a wonderful way to be able to regulate and heal. We don’t heal when there is interference in that field. Some of the greatest interfering in that field comes from your mouth.

00:18:15:21 – 00:18:45:21
Gerry Curatola
The greatest amount of toxicity, the greatest amount of chronic low grade inflammation, beginning with gum disease, which is epidemic, comes from that that comes from the mouth and it affects the entire field, which is why I had to you know, because most data studio there like what I came out of dental school they said the number one reason why dentists were being sued was because they were such mechanics of teeth that they didn’t even look at the gums.

00:18:46:07 – 00:19:03:03
Gerry Curatola
So the failure to diagnose periodontal disease, gum disease, was like they began to the patients would be going to the same dentist for 20 years. And it looks like their teeth are falling out and the teeth are moving. It’s like, oh, oh, you got gum disease. But the dentist was so like with the blinders on the teeth, oh, we got to do it.

00:19:03:03 – 00:19:28:11
Gerry Curatola
Felt like Nathan, oh, Nathan, you need a crown or Nathan, we’re going to do a breath. And it’s all of that that they weren’t even diagnosing. Wow. One of the largest sources of chronic low grade inflammation to the body because gum disease wasn’t about all your teeth falling out. Gum disease is linked to everything from Alzheimer’s disease to colorectal cancer, pregnancy complications, heart disease, stroke.

00:19:28:19 – 00:20:17:13
Gerry Curatola
Five types of cancer. Pancreatic cancer, 67%. Higher incidence of pancreatic cancer. That’s from Harvard University and 2006 lung cancer, osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis. I mean, all of these autoimmune diseases all linked to gum disease. So it’s really important that dentists and dentists still think like mechanics. That was that was like, you know, they think like mechanical teeth. And I my my heartfelt, you know, call to action at this stage of my life is to help dentists embrace the importance of being a physician of the mouth and helping to understand their role in ministering to the patient.

00:20:18:00 – 00:20:41:00
Gerry Curatola
Because the patient is a you know, I walk around my office here all day long and I have amazing young dentists who are who are with me in this group. And I walk around and I always say, you know, you’re not a mechanic of teeth. Remember, you’re treating a life force. And that regulation and self-healing and regulation occurs on five levels, the microbial level.

00:20:41:00 – 00:21:12:12
Gerry Curatola
And that’s where microbiome and I know you pointed out, you know, I spent a lot of years you know, I even developed a mike, a pro microbial toothpaste to balance the microbiome. We’ll talk about that. But there’s microbial regulation and understanding the unique relationship between man and microbe. That goes back to when we were formed. We were made of, I believe, you know, we’re made of microbes, even in in that verse, in the Bible, in Genesis, chapter two, verse seven.

00:21:12:12 – 00:21:37:18
Gerry Curatola
And God took from the dust of the earth and breathed the spirit into it. It’s not really dust. It was microbial slime, because the word translates in the ancient Hebrew and Aramaic to slime. God took from slon, breathed the spirit we became mind, body, spirit, right? And our mitochondria in a bacterium are similar shape. They divide the same, they hold genetic information.

00:21:38:10 – 00:22:09:04
Gerry Curatola
So that’s a whole theory. Whether you’re a creationist like I am or an evolutionist, there’s a whole theory that we were made of microbes that are mitochondria of every cell in our body may have been bacterial on origin way back when when the earth was just covered. Scientists agree we were covered with microbial slop. So that microbial regulation in the body is one of the most basic levels that our bodies regulate and heal.

00:22:09:12 – 00:22:18:14
Gerry Curatola
And we know, one, it’s not regulated. Dysbiosis is linked to tons of disease. Almost every disease. Yeah, my opinion.

00:22:18:19 – 00:22:19:02
Nathan Crane
100.

00:22:19:02 – 00:22:20:01
Gerry Curatola
Percent. So hell.

00:22:20:09 – 00:22:45:15
Nathan Crane
Yeah. And people who have excessive exposure to antibiotics, especially as a child, people who were born as a C-section instead of a vaginal cavity birth because a C-section, you get the microbiome, you get the bacteria of the hospital versus the importance of the bacteria from the vaginal cavity being born. This has all been directly, you know, studied in terms of how it affects the microbiome that you have.

00:22:45:21 – 00:22:54:24
Nathan Crane
If you have, you know, antibiotics, a lot of antibiotics as a kid like I did growing up, you’re significantly more prone to gut dysbiosis, autoimmune disease, allergies.

00:22:55:20 – 00:23:07:23
Gerry Curatola
All kinds of mental health, mental health neurotransmitters for your brain. So if you’re not if you’re serotonin and dope about being or out of whack, it may not be that you need Prozac. It may mean that you need your gut fixed.

00:23:08:01 – 00:23:08:22
Nathan Crane
100% and you.

00:23:08:22 – 00:23:34:11
Gerry Curatola
Can’t regulate. And that’s the problem with much of medicine is symptom driven rather than looking at root cause. Exactly. You know, our farmer empire that was built on there’s a drug for everything. There’s a pill for everything rather than fixing. I mean, I was I was recently I treated a patient, a big guy, big strapping Marine, kind of like built like you.

00:23:35:03 – 00:24:03:18
Gerry Curatola
And he he came to me and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, this guy did, you know, three tours in the military. And he’s a he’s an Iron Man and all this stuff. And he has high blood pressure. And so they put him on three blood pressure medications, three blood pressure medications. He’s 44 years old. And his functional medicine doctor, thank God, heard me speak somewhere about how obstructive sleep apnea can be linked to blood pressure.

00:24:04:13 – 00:24:24:23
Gerry Curatola
And this guy had an airway deficiency where when we opened his airway and he could breathe and get oxygen at night, his blood pressure went right down. Oh, wow. And it was all the shape of his mouth and the fact that his tongue was tied and sitting in the back of his throat now.

00:24:25:00 – 00:24:28:16
Nathan Crane
So now, could you solve that in many cases with.

00:24:29:19 – 00:24:30:07
Gerry Curatola
An appliance.

00:24:30:12 – 00:24:31:10
Nathan Crane
With mouth tape and.

00:24:31:10 – 00:24:55:07
Gerry Curatola
Like I released my a functional therapy tongue tie release and an appliance that remodels the stem cell remodels, the maximal maxillary mandible and actually stimulates stem cell activity so that you can expand the arch to make more room for the tongue. A lot of people, their mouths are squashed. They have a high vaulted palate and they’re in it.

00:24:55:08 – 00:25:20:21
Gerry Curatola
You know, we breathe here. My thumbs are the palate. But when you have a high vaulted palate now, you have restricted nasal breathing. So when we expand the arch that comes down and so, you know, these are amazing orthopedic appliances we have available in dentistry that helps with something that is so important breathing that we can talk about that more.

00:25:21:03 – 00:25:39:17
Gerry Curatola
But getting back to the five levels of regulation, we have the microbial level, we have biochemical pathways that get dysregulated thyroid. Thyroid gets disregulated how heavy metals in teeth, mercury fillings, nickel and crowns. Also.

00:25:40:13 – 00:25:48:24
Nathan Crane
What about what about like x rays, lots of fly, you know, MRI’s, x rays flying on airplanes often. Can those affect the thyroid?

00:25:49:14 – 00:26:12:03
Gerry Curatola
100% we use we get everyone in this office if they have, whether they have a cone beam or a little dental tray, we always give them we use these drops under the tongue that help to protect them and to regulate and protect the thyroid. Thyroid is a very sensitive organ and there’s iodine hypothyroidism.

00:26:12:15 – 00:26:15:14
Nathan Crane
You’re using iron or woody iodine.

00:26:15:18 – 00:26:26:03
Gerry Curatola
There’s also Irish bos. There’s a bunch of different ingredients that are good. I like using more herbal support for the thyroid, but yes, I don’t care.

00:26:26:11 – 00:26:37:10
Nathan Crane
So I just got this. Got a blood panel back. I’m doing I’m doing 90 days of urine therapy, by the way. I just started on Monday for it. We have a mutual friend, Jonathan Otto.

00:26:37:10 – 00:26:38:11
Gerry Curatola
Oh, yes, we do.

00:26:40:10 – 00:27:00:21
Nathan Crane
And I just interviewed him on the podcast. We spent two and a half hours on urine therapy and I said Bye at the beginning. I said, By the end of this podcast, I want you to try and convince me to, you know, drink my own urine. And he did. And so I’m doing an experiment. I did a ton of blood testing, multiple labs, three different blood tests, labs.

00:27:00:22 – 00:27:15:16
Nathan Crane
I’m going to comprehensive as well as multiple urine toxicity, heavy metal, toxic exposure, three different urine labs. And anyway, then I’m going to basically the only thing I may do is urine therapy for 90 days and then I’m going to retest everything and see what happens.

00:27:15:16 – 00:27:22:17
Gerry Curatola
Yeah, it’s brilliant. Yeah. Let me know, because I was also very skeptical. But you know what? There is a lot of science in it.

00:27:22:23 – 00:27:45:13
Nathan Crane
So that’s what I’m finding out, is that this is a research unit, that there’s a lot of science from the early 1900s through the mid 1900s and then all of a sudden, 1950, 1960, it kind of like cuts off and correct. It seems to be an, you know, a pretty plausible explanation for that. You know, they were getting they were seeing some interesting things with it, helping with cancer patients.

00:27:45:13 – 00:28:11:13
Nathan Crane
Then, you know, Dr. Brzezinski basically synthesized peptides and amino acids from urine to create anti neoplastic in which he was using to treat cancer patients very successfully. Right. Yeah. And I’m curious if, you know, too much iodine, for example, can increase its age to high to where it’s like hypo thyroid. I’m also I also travel a lot on a lot of planes.

00:28:11:13 – 00:28:15:15
Nathan Crane
I’ve had multiple MRI’s recently, X X-rays or.

00:28:15:15 – 00:28:41:22
Gerry Curatola
Yeah, I would definitely recommend you have a number of good thyroid support just to count. I support the ability, remember, you know, you want to support your body’s ability to regulate and heal. You know, you hate yourself. Doctors don’t heal you. That’s what I’m always, you know, I always tell patients like I don’t heal you. I mean, I’ve seen cancers go in remission.

00:28:41:22 – 00:29:07:00
Gerry Curatola
I’ve seen, you know, autoimmune disease disappear. I had a patient who came to me. I treated that jaw cavitation, literally. We were worried because we have an appointment in one of our offices, one where you have to walk up a flight of stairs. But for patients to stay and this woman needed a walker. And after I treated the cavitation literally immediately all the inflammation started to go.

00:29:07:01 – 00:29:41:04
Gerry Curatola
It was like so dramatic that she walked up those stairs under her hair, on her own power, not her husband carrying her, everybody else. They were both like in tears the next day because they Oh, I can’t believe this. And I’m like, I didn’t do anything. All I did was probably take out a really toxic area that was festering with parasites, mold, Candida, lung spas, you know, all these things because dead areas of bone in the jaw with what we call cavitation are like petri dishes for pathogens.

00:29:41:08 – 00:30:06:21
Gerry Curatola
It’s warm, it’s dark, it’s moist and it’s necrotic. There isn’t a good blood supply. And most of us, you know, we didn’t even learn about this in dental school. I learned this in Europe, in Switzerland, in Germany. So we regular ate my microvilli biochemically, energetically, right? Every tooth is connected to an organ system. I tell people, you know, meridian flow in the body is real.

00:30:06:21 – 00:30:44:17
Gerry Curatola
And so acupuncture works. You know, we at the end of our facet of the body has all these neurovascular bundles, these meridians, the channels that travel. And they have actually identified from the tooth to an organ with these meridian channels. And it’s really important to understand that because it’s one of the major pathways that the body wants to regulate and heal when we block that, the the interference I was speaking about in the field when we brought block that energy flow, it’s like the the field is is affected.

00:30:44:17 – 00:31:05:07
Gerry Curatola
And I always say it’s like Star Trek, you know, the Enterprise, you know, is flying along and the, you know, the Klingons, which could be, you know, a cancer cell. We you know, we fight cancer cells every day. But the Klingons fire a missile. And if the shields up a bounce, it’s all the when the shields down. And Captain Kirk is saying, Scotty, we need more.

00:31:05:07 – 00:31:36:04
Gerry Curatola
And she’s like, she won’t hurt captain or bad. And the shields down, that’s when the ship takes a hit. So our bodies take a hit when our shield is not. And so a major important part of our immune system is our energetic immune system, not just our cellular immune system, microbial immune system. And and and, you know, our ability for our microbiome people don’t realize our microbiome protects us in the mail.

00:31:36:04 – 00:32:06:23
Gerry Curatola
It actually the oral microbiome transports minerals from saliva to remain our allies your teeth and it transports oxygen molecular oxygen to your gums and it takes ionic and free radical ionic oxygen and free radicals away your bacteria, your bacterial community. When it’s in balance, it’s doing that. When it’s at a balance, it’s causing dysbiosis and decay and gum disease and all the other things we see.

00:32:07:04 – 00:32:33:08
Gerry Curatola
So we regulate microvilli biochemically, energetically. And the last two are the ones that, you know, really start to give you a big picture of how we are. We’re basically spirit beings that inherent in, you know, inherit this tend to the body. And that’s psycho emotional. So psycho emotional. Bruce Lipton wrote the book The Biology of Belief What you Believe Changes the Way Your Cells Communicate.

00:32:33:12 – 00:32:55:18
Gerry Curatola
Yeah, one of the first things I ask patients when I operate is do you believe you’re going to get better? And if they tell me, I don’t know. I’ve been sick for so long and I have chronic Lyme patients. They talk like that sometimes because they’ve been sick a long time and they can’t shake it. And before I go in and treat a cavitation or take out an infected tooth, I always ask them, you know, Do you believe you’re going to get better?

00:32:55:18 – 00:33:23:17
Gerry Curatola
And if they say, Yeah, that’s why I’m here, right on, let’s go. But if they say, I don’t know, like, you got to figure that out because I don’t even want to treat you unless you are in the mindset to manifest, you know, to set your intention to manifest what where your head is. Because there are a lot of people out there who are sick and they get stinking thinking and stinking thinking is a major problem when you’re trying to heal.

00:33:24:07 – 00:33:55:12
Gerry Curatola
So that’s the psycho emotional regulation our bodies do. That’s the mind, right? It’s in your field. The mind right now. The level fifth level is how you keep that field charged. That fifth level is spiritual. And I always tell people that’s like, you know, your Tesla learning in Iran unless you plug it in and recharge it. So how do we recharge from the fifth level, what we call the spiritual level in biologic medicine, meditation, prayer, centering, mindfulness.

00:33:55:12 – 00:34:20:06
Gerry Curatola
You know, anything you do to get out of your head and app of your body and out of your body and out of your head, you can work out all day long. You still have to get out of your head. So I’m all right. That’s my shtick. On why biologic dentistry is way more than just doing, say, mercury removal and, you know, and and having red light therapy.

00:34:20:06 – 00:34:37:22
Nathan Crane
It’s much more alignment with what I believe as well and what I. Yeah, we need a lot more. We need a lot more dentists trained in true biologic and doctors as well. Right. And so we would see a lot of that. That’s why I disappear significantly. I want to go to.

00:34:37:22 – 00:35:07:13
Gerry Curatola
My own committed, by the way, Nathan, that’s the major part of my life right now is teaching and teaching, teaching and getting because I get people call me on the regular biologic. Dennis in L.A., the biologic dentist in Seattle, you have a biologic dentist in here and there’s like only a handful of us that I would even trust that understand this philosophy because it is a profound, multidimensional philosophy that affects every area of dental practice.

00:35:07:13 – 00:35:41:15
Nathan Crane
So I have a she calls herself, you know, a biologic holistic dentist. I actually went to the dentist for tooth cleaning this morning right before our podcast. I just got back a little bit ago before we started and. And she knew you. I mentioned your name, so. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I have a to ask you because they, they, I have a cavity that seems to I’ve, I’ve noticed it there for quite a while, maybe a few years even, but it seems to have actually grown to where they can see it on the camera.

00:35:41:15 – 00:36:01:20
Nathan Crane
Right. They showed me one of my back molars and it seems to have grown quite a bit since my last visit with them like six months ago. And, you know, they’re using fluoride. They do use, you know, natural materials and minerals and things like that. I question them in-depth about, you know, are you guys actually holistic? Are you, you know, are you using antibiotics?

00:36:01:20 – 00:36:16:07
Nathan Crane
What do you use it using fluoride. Now, she mentioned I wrote it down. So I want to ask you for a feeling she recommends using something. I think the brand is called Voco Voco. It’s an admirer of fusion porcelain based.

00:36:16:11 – 00:36:50:24
Gerry Curatola
Yeah, I introduced that to the biologic dentist about ten years ago because all the healing material had this felt it was this GM resin. So it was bisphenol A glass little metabolite, which is crap. It’s plastic chemical loaded with BPA. So yeah, they wouldn’t, you know, you wouldn’t touch a plastic water bottle in your car, in a hot car, but you have these fillings in people’s mouths at 98.6, the worst part is I want to I’m Dr. Oz talking about toxic fillings and everybody got scared to take their fillings out.

00:36:51:17 – 00:36:59:14
Gerry Curatola
And the amalgam fillings out. And these dentists were throwing in BPA. You know, they were like this, that could be good. Yeah.

00:37:00:01 – 00:37:20:10
Nathan Crane
So so let’s let’s talk about that first thing about cavities because, you know, that’s that is on my top ten list on my toxins presentation and I teach that top ten cancer causing toxins and what to do to get toxins out of your body. One of my top ten advanced strategies for detox is to have your mercury there.

00:37:20:12 – 00:37:51:06
Nathan Crane
If you look in your mouth and you see, you know, silver looking amalgams, they are most guaranteed mercury based, right? Mercury amalgams are silver amalgams removed safely by a biologic. Dennis, Who knows how to do it? So you don’t want to just go to any dentist, right? And just say, hey, can you remove these? Like it’s got to be somebody who’s trained in it properly to do it safely because of cavitation, because of the mercury off gassing, because of being able to clean the bacteria out of the cavitation.

00:37:51:06 – 00:37:54:24
Nathan Crane
Right. Can you talk about that? The importance of find the right dentist to remove.

00:37:55:00 – 00:38:19:16
Gerry Curatola
So you’re talking about the cavity, right? There’s decay around an amalgam and that’s a cavity. Cavitation is a made up word by an orthopedic surgeon and actually pathologist and a a orthopedic pathologist who is finding these dead areas of bone, whether it was no fever, no pain and no swelling. And in 1931, it came up. The word cavity is a hole in a tooth.

00:38:19:24 – 00:38:27:12
Gerry Curatola
A cavitation is a hole in the jaw. Yeah. So quotations refer to those areas of Bossier necrosis in the job so.

00:38:27:12 – 00:38:36:21
Nathan Crane
Right. And I was the reason I brought that up is because very often times certainly in a root canal, but sometimes in other teeth you will find cavitation in the jaw, right?

00:38:37:04 – 00:39:06:03
Gerry Curatola
Yes. Yes, that’s absolutely right. So the cavity in your tooth, taking that out, it’s interesting. A lot of people have mixed metals in the mouth. Right. They’ll have a dental amalgam, which is a silver mercury filling. But on the other but opposing it, they’ll have a crown made of gold. And now you have Calvinism because the metals, dissimilar metals create like almost like a little electric current.

00:39:06:15 – 00:39:35:16
Gerry Curatola
And it actually the effect of that current is to crank more mercury out. And so it becomes like a mercury molar benefit to crank it out. So, you know, you really want to make sure that you look at the whole mouth. Everybody logic dentists evaluate your mouth it just doesn’t take out a filling that is amalgam. And then you want to make sure the restorative part of that, what you replace that dental amalgam with is going to withstand chewing pressure.

00:39:35:23 – 00:39:57:15
Gerry Curatola
It’s going to be harmonious with the rest of the teeth. And that word harmonious is really important because a lot of dentists create disharmony in the mouth, they shift the bite, get, you know, and there’s a lot of good dentists, unfortunately, that are not biologic and a lot of biologic dentists that aren’t good. So, you know, it’s that dilemma, you know, and everybody feels like, oh, good, I got it.

00:39:57:24 – 00:40:19:23
Gerry Curatola
I got a biologic dentist who believes me, who believes that dental amalgam is harmful. They believe that, you know, root canals can be toxic. They believe that, you know, if wisdom teeth are not removed properly, you could have a hole in your jaw that could harbor a lot of garbage if it’s been there a very long time and you’ve been exposed to a lot of different toxicity.

00:40:20:07 – 00:40:49:00
Gerry Curatola
So it’s great that they know there are there are awake and being awake now, it’s a matter of getting them properly skilled and trained to know what to do, to put in their. So I often recommend when you have your dental amalgams removed safely, try to go for a ceramic filling because a lot of times plastic fillings, even BPA free composite can wear down quickly from chewing pressure.

00:40:49:18 – 00:41:19:17
Gerry Curatola
So you want to use some sort ceramic or, you know, hybrid material that is composite ceramic that can function well under the chewing pressure. And if you’re a grinder, you know, and you know, you may wear down teeth quicker. So I would recommend that you that the biologic dentist use a stronger material doesn’t mean you have to go.

00:41:19:17 – 00:41:50:08
Gerry Curatola
I don’t think I we are at a state where I could confidently say there is no need for for metal in the mouth. We have nonmetal dental implants, we have nonmetal appliances, we have nonmetal fillings, we have non metal bridges and crowns. We do not need metal. And, you know, one of the metals that we thought was safe was titanium, like in dental implants, made of a metal called titanium.

00:41:50:18 – 00:42:11:20
Gerry Curatola
And, you know, when I first had my first titanium implant in 1988, which was early in this RCO integrated implant world, they used to call it ASCO integrated. Well, now we know they don’t really integrate if they’re metal. What we see is bulk grows around vast, but it’s more like scar tissue bond. The body wants to wall it off and get rid of it.

00:42:11:20 – 00:42:21:04
Gerry Curatola
It is non vascular bone which has a blood supply. We see vascular bone growing around ceramic implants, what we call.

00:42:21:04 – 00:42:38:20
Nathan Crane
Certain ceramic implants. What I’ve researched on those is like there are some Dennis who are kind of a cutting edge of that are having issues like some people are having issues. Maybe Dennis isn’t good enough with it or something, are they are they harder.

00:42:39:02 – 00:43:09:08
Gerry Curatola
Upon iPods cutting edge of that. Yeah. Yeah. Actually did attachments because there’s that there’s three issues with ceramic let’s talk about that metal ceramic metal is called titanium ceramic zirconium. Some of the people in a lot of Dennis are like, oh, only the metal work. The ceramic doesn’t work. There’s a whole different bone morphology. There’s a whole different way that you have to approach this and there’s a whole important protocol.

00:43:09:14 – 00:43:33:21
Gerry Curatola
And I’m working on a book right now related to that because a lot of dentists just don’t understand it. And they want to use a cornea, but they don’t really understand why they have more problems than there’s three things. One, titanium implants, which we were you know, I was you know, I was very hip on it because I thought, well, the body loves this metal.

00:43:33:21 – 00:44:03:12
Gerry Curatola
It just grows right around it. But when you look at histology studies, we look on a cellular level, you see that the bone is very dense and there isn’t a blood supply. It’s more sporadic. Second thing is a big topic right now is that that titanium corrodes and it it there’s been a study July 2021 on titanium particles being found in the liver, the kidneys and the lungs, and that it corrodes.

00:44:03:12 – 00:44:25:14
Gerry Curatola
What is it? It’s alive. It’s an electrolyte, it interacts, and you get this corrosion. You often see it in the soft tissue. First the gum tissue and that’s cool peri implant tightness, but then you see it, you know, where the bone is, just resolving around the implant like the body’s trying to get rid of it. So you see the sclerotic bone and then you see this loss of bone.

00:44:26:12 – 00:44:54:24
Gerry Curatola
And so now know titanium is not all what it’s cooked up to be and that it biologically we know that metal blocks meridians so now you have the same thing as if it was a root canal. The titanium implant and the root canal both produce endotoxin and 100% of them do. And you also see this blockage of energetic flow and meridians flow.

00:44:55:12 – 00:45:18:22
Gerry Curatola
So now let’s look at zirconium. Zirconium is different and it’s actually more rigid than the titanium, the ceramic. It’s you know, it’s also called a white metal. You know that. And it’s not that it’s ceramic, but they call it a white metal now because it’s hard to get into art like fake diamonds are made of. ZAKARIA You know, so it is ceramic.

00:45:19:12 – 00:45:43:17
Gerry Curatola
It takes longer for the bone to grow. So we don’t put a crown on it in three months. We wait six months. Let the bone really around there. Now, what’s the advantage? We find that that bone is more vascular, meaning it has more blood and saliva is the lifeblood of teeth. Bigger blood is literally the lifeblood of bone.

00:45:43:17 – 00:46:06:21
Gerry Curatola
Your bump for bone to be healthy, it needs a blood supply. If you don’t have a blood supply, you’re not going to have healthy bone. You’re going to have dead body. That’s one of the problems in cavitation is that there is some blood, there’s stagnant. Second thing about zirconia, they haven’t really gotten the prosthetic components down. So it’s kind of harder to restore.

00:46:07:04 – 00:46:36:16
Gerry Curatola
And that’s where I’ve been doing a lot of work because I have, you know, 40 of prosthetic background and doing dental prosthetics. And so we’re actually developing more porcelain and ceramic attachments to make it. Look like a healthy tooth. And then the third thing is you really have to understand that you don’t want to a big thing in dental implants ology is you take a tooth out, you stick an implant in the same day, and it’s called a medium medium.

00:46:36:21 – 00:47:04:03
Gerry Curatola
I spend immediate load of it and you really have to shift when you do zirconium to understand that sometimes you just got to let the bone heal and then place the ceramic implant and then, you know, wait those six months and place the crown on. So if you respect the science, if you respect the science between zirconium technology and the human jaw, then you have very successful results.

00:47:04:08 – 00:47:18:17
Gerry Curatola
Unfortunately, there are too many dentists out there that still think that it’s the same as titanium, just the different material, and they try and restore them the same. And then when they fail, they go, well, I guess, you know, they don’t work as good. I don’t really know.

00:47:18:17 – 00:47:25:11
Nathan Crane
That’s probably that’s probably the stories that I’ve heard of them failing is they just didn’t wait long enough. They didn’t understand it properly enough.

00:47:26:04 – 00:47:26:18
Gerry Curatola
Yes.

00:47:27:01 – 00:47:49:08
Nathan Crane
Yes. Got it. Yeah. Because I actually the reason I was looking into it, I heard of ceramic implants quite a while ago. And I was the reason I was thinking of it is because I had so I had root canals, at least two front teeth when I was a teenager. And then they never like healed properly or whatever, never got them field or the feeling came out.

00:47:49:08 – 00:47:53:10
Nathan Crane
Something happened. I was a crazy teenager. I don’t even remember exactly.

00:47:53:10 – 00:47:56:10
Gerry Curatola
But basically it had to be an inch, had to be a sports injury.

00:47:56:10 – 00:48:06:15
Nathan Crane
And so I think it was I think it was street fighting or fighting and, you know, too many brawls and drunken nights and just stupidity. You know.

00:48:06:23 – 00:48:08:16
Gerry Curatola
You were Rambo. You were Rambo.

00:48:08:16 – 00:48:29:22
Nathan Crane
So unfortunately. And so, you know, those these two teeth were dead. I had to have them pulled a few years later because they were like they were already root canal and then they were basically like completely dying and turning black and so on. You know, I have a I have a flipper.

00:48:29:24 – 00:48:31:17
Gerry Curatola
Oh, did. Wow.

00:48:31:17 – 00:48:34:01
Nathan Crane
So I’ve had this for like, we.

00:48:34:01 – 00:48:35:02
Gerry Curatola
Got to get you up here.

00:48:36:09 – 00:49:00:21
Nathan Crane
I’ve had this for probably since I was like 20 years old, so I’ve had it for 20 or 31. So I’ve had it for like 16 years and I’ve looked into getting implants the last couple of years. The problem is because I’ve had this for these teeth missing for so long and I just use, you know, the flipper thing, the bone has recessed so much.

00:49:01:09 – 00:49:03:02
Nathan Crane
So I don’t even know if it’s possible.

00:49:03:02 – 00:49:27:15
Gerry Curatola
For me, the way I look at it and proud to be not to give you more bad news, what happens when you wear that type of appliance is it stresses on the bone and bone will result barb in the direction of force. For example, when you have a crooked tooth, you put force on this side, the bone resources on this side, so that the tooth that’s like this moves like this.

00:49:27:16 – 00:49:49:16
Gerry Curatola
Yeah. Because there’s information in the direction of the force and then deposition a new bond behind it. So you move a tooth from this to this when you have an appliance, you’re pressing in a vertical direction. So you’re continuing the resorption of bone because of the direction of the force of the appliance against the tissue.

00:49:49:20 – 00:49:50:11
Nathan Crane
Makes sense.

00:49:50:12 – 00:50:11:21
Gerry Curatola
That’s why I advice for you as a as a handsome young man. But, you know, you’re in the prime of your life. Is that you should not have that of I would want to get you out of that appliance whether we would go to a fixed bridge or whether we would go to craft and place ceramic implants. It’s a process.

00:50:12:10 – 00:50:24:00
Nathan Crane
Now which that if the bone has receded significantly, then you the odds of the implants stain are reduced. Right. Of the implant being successful, is that correct?

00:50:24:17 – 00:50:42:03
Gerry Curatola
You’d have to augment the bone first. Hmm. Well, then the bone first, then place the ceramic implants. So. But again, the gold standard for you is a column being a3d campaign. Let’s see what’s going on.

00:50:42:07 – 00:50:44:16
Nathan Crane
Yeah. So when you do that, you’re looking to.

00:50:44:17 – 00:50:46:24
Gerry Curatola
Show me that flipper before?

00:50:46:24 – 00:50:53:04
Nathan Crane
Yeah, well, now I did. I had a chance to actually show you. That’s really one of the things I wanted to talk to you about.

00:50:54:23 – 00:50:59:03
Gerry Curatola
Well, do another podcast.

00:50:59:03 – 00:51:00:19
Nathan Crane
Yeah, it’s been interesting.

00:51:00:19 – 00:51:06:13
Gerry Curatola
We’re violating hip hop by letting hip hop with you. I don’t know.

00:51:06:13 – 00:51:32:06
Nathan Crane
Yeah. So, yeah, so going to root canals because I actually was really happy I had those teeth pulled and didn’t have them in for that long. As I later as I started researching natural health and realized, you know, the detrimental effects of root canals, our root canals are basically you’re leaving a dead organ in your body. Right. And there’s no other medicine that would ever leave a dead organ in your body of the organs dead.

00:51:32:21 – 00:51:47:17
Nathan Crane
You got to take it out or replace it. But here you are. You leave this dead tooth in there. You’ve taken out the blood supply, the nerve supply, and you’re basically, you know, allowing bacteria to fester in there. And that root canal can, you know, yeah, of course, you know, you don’t want.

00:51:47:21 – 00:52:10:09
Gerry Curatola
I just got it too. I just got into big trouble because at the Belgian ski cancer conference, I got up and said the worst invention in modern health care is the root belt. And I said root canals and somebody was video it and they put it out on the they put it out on the Internet. I said, root canals, this regulate your immune system.

00:52:10:14 – 00:52:26:19
Gerry Curatola
And they’re like, they could even be linked to cancers, you know. Well, they took it and added it and said, root canals cause cancer. And I had every root canal specialist in the country like, you know, like literally sending me hate mail.

00:52:27:03 – 00:52:28:17
Nathan Crane
Oh, oh.

00:52:29:10 – 00:52:51:23
Gerry Curatola
And I was like, I like it, you know, I said and I said something like, you know, the underdog, Mr. like Taxidermists of Teeth, you know, they’re the dental undertakers, you know. And I started saying this stuff and I have some very good friends. And I actually had to say, when a patient is in pain and then the Danish could get you out of pain and really save you from a lot of misery.

00:52:51:23 – 00:53:09:05
Gerry Curatola
And at best, a root canal is a temporary procedure because we know that everything dead in the human body will necrosis it, will decompose, it will break down. That’s why when I take out these old root canals that are infected, they crumble as we, you know.

00:53:09:13 – 00:53:20:22
Nathan Crane
Yeah, my team, my teeth felt when they, when they pulled my teeth, they fell apart. They were they had to pull them out in pieces, in chunks. It was they were tested. And the crazy.

00:53:21:02 – 00:53:56:13
Gerry Curatola
Best part of that is that often I do pathology studies on those dead teeth on the area of the bone that I’m cleaning out. And when I do those studies, we often find parasites, we find antibiotic resistant bacteria, we find candida mycotoxins tons and tons of mycotoxins. And that’s what that’s what’s brewing around these root canals. So when I started seeing that, I was like and then I started hearing, you know, stories from patients like, oh my God, you know, I had this chronic sinusitis.

00:53:56:13 – 00:54:24:11
Gerry Curatola
It’s gone. I had this, you know, I had this asthma. I had my colon, my God, this and that. That totally changed. And I was like, you know, in the early years of my career, I was like, Oh, coincidence, coincidence. Once I really understood and studied the biologic metaphors as much as I did, I probably I’m probably the most highly educated biologic dentist alive and and some of them have bits of the puzzle.

00:54:24:20 – 00:55:02:24
Gerry Curatola
But I kind of went from a master’s program in Holistic Health in 1983 to Harvard Medical Schools program in Complementary and Alternative Medicine, the symposium they did in 1997 and 98, and then over to Germany and Switzerland, actually, they got the medical doctor who I admire the most and who changed my life is a doctor, Thomas Rao, who started the Paracelsus Clinic in in the late nineties, early 2000, because I had a nurse, a registered nurse who was doing integrative nutrition, help my daughter with her sinusitis.

00:55:02:24 – 00:55:20:13
Gerry Curatola
And then she came in and said, Jerry, there’s a change to my medical history. I was diagnosed with breast cancer and I was like, Oh, are you going to Sloan-Kettering in New York? And then she’s like, Hell no, that’s a meat grinder. I’m going to the Paracelsus Clinic to Doctor Thomas Rowland. She said to me, You need to come over.

00:55:20:13 – 00:55:44:01
Gerry Curatola
You need to meet this guy. And I was like, Oh, wow, I never heard, you know, he’s a medical doctor in in Switzerland. He was the first medical doctor that I ever knew where if you had any kind of cancer, any kind of immunity, immune disease or anything that modern medicine would just throw drugs at, the first thing he would say is, open your mouth.

00:55:45:18 – 00:56:04:08
Gerry Curatola
Root canal, you have any heavy metals, you have any composites, you have any jock habitations? Yeah. Yeah. That’s what he would be looking for. And because he realized that that disc regulates your entire body, your mouth body. And that’s why I keep picking up the book.

00:56:05:18 – 00:56:30:17
Nathan Crane
The Mouth Body Connection. Well, I saw I remember I remember years ago before I was taken down from Netflix. And actually I think I saw it on Gaia was the documentary Root Cause. And I remember they have a patient in there who had root canals and then they removed the root canals, clean it up. And I think she was I think that was a case study where her cancer went away and all kinds of chronic health conditions.

00:56:30:17 – 00:56:51:10
Nathan Crane
But she was just one of many where, just like you said, you’ve had many patients where you clean up the mouth, clean up the root canals and, you know, chronic health conditions go away. And it makes so much sense since our mouth is so connected. But they’re called vestibules. That’s how do you say that are connected through the mouth.

00:56:51:10 – 00:56:51:24
Nathan Crane
The little.

00:56:54:17 – 00:56:55:15
Gerry Curatola
Meridians or.

00:56:56:00 – 00:57:07:08
Nathan Crane
The I think they’re called vestibular is the little tiny tunnels that can trap bacteria that lead, you know, through the jaw into the tooth, a little tiny tunnel.

00:57:09:14 – 00:57:11:08
Gerry Curatola
Lymphatic or you mean a tubules.

00:57:12:02 – 00:57:13:06
Nathan Crane
Of the tubules?

00:57:13:06 – 00:57:14:10
Gerry Curatola
There you go, tubules.

00:57:14:22 – 00:57:16:05
Nathan Crane
And so basically.

00:57:17:16 – 00:57:45:24
Gerry Curatola
That’s why we’re looking at it, by the way, because every tube has that. You can’t sterilize it. It’s like a sponge. It’s got thousands and thousands of microtubules where there’s fluid flow and all kinds of things. And by the way, each tubule can have three strep bacteria across it all the way down. And when you try to disinfect the tooth from the inside out, at best, even with a laser, you can go like a thousand microns, but not more than that.

00:57:46:05 – 00:57:59:11
Gerry Curatola
Mm hmm. And so if you have a an abscess, my advice would be a root canal is not a good choice. That because you’re still going to have residual infection.

00:58:01:11 – 00:58:08:05
Nathan Crane
So. So instead of a root canal or about have the tooth pulled, you recommend having the tooth pulled.

00:58:08:11 – 00:58:32:14
Gerry Curatola
Because if I you know, I always you know, I’m required by my my licensure to give patients options for care. And I do have patients who go, oh, no, I don’t want the tooth I want to keep the tooth in there. So it’s like, okay, you want to do dog therapy? I can refer you to some of the top and the Danish in New York, but you should know that 100% of root canal teeth will still show signs of infection and inflammation at best.

00:58:33:00 – 00:58:56:09
Gerry Curatola
You know, I would say, you know, 5 to 7 years is is probably before you start to see the breakdown and decomposing of the tooth. But, you know, there are people who still, you know, they’re afraid to lose the tooth and whatever. So I’m required by my license to give them options for care. If I told them what I would do personally, personally, I would remove the tooth.

00:58:56:10 – 00:59:00:18
Gerry Curatola
I guess in fact, the bone, let it heal and do a ceramic implant.

00:59:01:09 – 00:59:04:19
Nathan Crane
And how do you disinfect the bone? You use ozone and other things.

00:59:06:00 – 00:59:27:24
Gerry Curatola
Laser ozone. We we have use a hydroxyl silver as a wound disinfectant. But the laser is great because the laser really in fact and then it D coordinates the surrounding bond, which stimulates the bone to regenerate and heal. That’s what you want. You want good regeneration and healing.

00:59:28:12 – 00:59:40:09
Nathan Crane
Now, is there cavitation is found in the jaw underneath every single root canal that’s ever been done that you know of or what’s the percentage? Is that common?

00:59:40:09 – 01:00:08:09
Gerry Curatola
It becomes more and more common the longer the root canal is left at the mouth. So initially, you know, I don’t even see it really graphically at all. Does it mean that and you know, microscopically there isn’t stuff going on, but it’s not visible. But you start to see these dark areas forming around root canals. After the more time that goes by, I would say five plus years, you start to see these cavitation formations.

01:00:08:09 – 01:00:35:05
Gerry Curatola
And what’s interesting is that you can’t see it on a two dimensional little x ray. You really need three D because you have dense cortical bone here and that’s critical bone here. Where my head is, is the cavitation, but it’s superimposed when you’re like that. So you really need to look three D And it’s a lot of times I see a lot more cross sectional that I could never see from straight on a what we call a longitudinal view.

01:00:35:20 – 01:00:40:06
Gerry Curatola
So that’s why Count Beam is really important. Everyone should get one.

01:00:40:20 – 01:00:44:13
Nathan Crane
And very often when you go in and go ahead.

01:00:45:00 – 01:00:45:12
Gerry Curatola
Yeah, go ahead.

01:00:45:24 – 01:00:54:17
Nathan Crane
I’ll just say very often when you go in and cut open that cavitation, it’s filled with all kinds of bacteria, fungus, you know, festering in there.

01:00:54:17 – 01:01:17:04
Gerry Curatola
Yeah. By the way, when I take out a root canal, too, it’s I use paper plates and I absorb the fluid in there and I absorb all of the fluid in the in and around that tooth. I’ll take a sample with sterile paper point and I’ll send it out for a bio resonance report on what pathogens are there.

01:01:17:04 – 01:01:32:16
Gerry Curatola
And it’s it’s amazing what I see. I have yeah. Someone with a cavitation. Let’s look at some of the organisms here Lyme Borrelia parasites I mean this is these are the reports I get.

01:01:33:00 – 01:01:34:20
Nathan Crane
Candida Streptococcus.

01:01:35:21 – 01:02:05:13
Gerry Curatola
Yeah. Yeah. Here is another one to landmark is borreliosis. So you see they look they see the parasite, tons of parasites. Well, that’s the crap that you see in and around these things. Nathan I love to teach and I love to share this information because, I mean, I see my role, I see my calling at this stage of my life to really educate and teach, not just the public.

01:02:05:20 – 01:02:09:24
Gerry Curatola
And I love your podcast, but we really have to teach the professionals.

01:02:09:24 – 01:02:11:11
Nathan Crane
100%, 100%.

01:02:11:11 – 01:02:18:18
Gerry Curatola
And and not just, you know, dentists and medical and health care professionals. For them to understand this, you know, well.

01:02:18:24 – 01:02:33:24
Nathan Crane
I have a lot and I have a lot of health care professionals that are on my list that watch my podcast and listen to it. But you’re already reaching probably 30% of our you know, I got a quarter million people on my list. So 30% of them are health care professionals. So, wow, you’re already reaching a lot of them.

01:02:33:24 – 01:02:47:10
Nathan Crane
But Jerry, I know we covered a lot already and I still have like 50 other things I want to talk with you about. We got to do we got to do a part two. This has been awesome. I know you got to go. You’ve got a patient waiting there. But I want to say, number one, thank you for coming on the podcast.

01:02:48:00 – 01:03:01:02
Nathan Crane
It’s been awesome. Number two, we’re going to get into more solutions for people as well in, you know, let’s definitely do a part two and it’s just always great hanging out with you, learning from you, spending time. So I appreciate you, man.

01:03:01:02 – 01:03:20:16
Gerry Curatola
Same here. Same here. Nathan, I. I talked to Jerry Part one. Everybody stay tuned for Dr. Jerry Part 2 hours, you know, but I also have his schedule and everything. But anyway, I totally enjoyed this time we had and I look forward to getting this back on 4.2.

01:03:21:05 – 01:03:23:02
Nathan Crane
Same here. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you.