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00:00:00:00 – 00:00:26:08
Nathan Crane
Welcome back to the podcast, everybody. I’m super excited to have my good friend here, Dr. Michael Karlfeldt. Michael is a naturopathic oncologist. He is the author of the book A Better Way to Treat Cancer. And he is the founder of the Car Felt Center, which is in Idaho, where they have some of the most leading edge treatments and technologies in integrative medicine for cancer primarily.
00:00:26:08 – 00:00:32:16
Nathan Crane
But they work with patients with all kinds of chronic illnesses. Michael, my friend, thanks for coming on the podcast. Man, I’m excited for this.
00:00:32:16 – 00:00:41:13
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Conversation is going to be awesome. Thank you so much for having me. It’s it’s always so cool to chat with you about anything, so this would be awesome.
00:00:41:20 – 00:01:12:07
Nathan Crane
Yeah, I’m looking forward to it. You know, I was actually really curious. I don’t know if I’ve ever asked you this. What is one of the like most crazy, unbelievable, miraculous healings that you’ve seen from any patients that you’ve ever worked with? Something that comes to mind, whether it’s cancer or anything else. Someone came in to your clinic and maybe they had no hope.
00:01:12:08 – 00:01:30:23
Nathan Crane
Maybe they were told by other doctors, There’s nothing we can do for you. You know, maybe they had a stage three or stage four cancer, whatever it is, someday comes to mind with a patient that you’ve worked with over the years that just seemed almost impossible. But they had a miraculous recovery. Do you have any case studies like that that you can think of?
00:01:31:20 – 00:01:52:21
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, the couple of things I mean, one is and I have told this story a number of times, but it’s such a cool story. You had a patient, a blessed Oma, you know, she’d been pretreated, you know, surgeries, radiation, done chemo. And she she came to me and I mean, she wasn’t able to pick anything up off the floor.
00:01:52:21 – 00:02:18:15
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
She wasn’t able to really do anything. I mean, barely could walk. And so we we did we did some therapies the first day. We did actually some stem cell therapy on her, along with some of the other therapies that I do. And the next day she reported, I’m able to kind of easily pick things off the floor. I’m able to walk fine.
00:02:18:15 – 00:02:41:20
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And I mean, it’s like from one day to another, it’s like a completely different person. And she later on just kind of I was able to get full function back and enjoying life, you know, hiking foothills and she was doing great, you know, so so that that was one cool story. Another cool story. I actually saw this patient’s wife earlier today.
00:02:42:03 – 00:03:08:04
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And so kind of reminds me on this story. He came to me a wheelchair-bound, was not able to hold on to anything he could speak. But he had really no function below his neck. And the doctors really didn’t know what it was. You know, they could throw out terms like ALS and, you know, but they really he hadn’t been fully diagnosed with something.
00:03:08:04 – 00:03:45:03
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And it was this sudden onset. Yeah. It just all of a sudden it hit him. And so we started doing, you know, therapies within your arm, pull out heavy metals, you know, work on infections, support the nervous system, bring in peptides. And now so this this was a year ago that this was taking place. And now this January he’s going to go on a cruise with his wife, is fully functioning is driving his and so it’s really cool when you see those things.
00:03:45:03 – 00:04:10:18
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And and what’s interesting as he was telling me today, is that she he had a friend that was in the same situation and that did not do, you know, the type of therapies that we do here now more of integrative medicine and he’s not dead. Yeah. And and this this gentleman this instead of having that fate, he’s gone on a cruise in January, you know.
00:04:10:19 – 00:04:42:12
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So yeah. So those are some cool stories that you get to be part of. And, and and it’s always fascinating how the body works is that you can’t just say that, yeah, I did this and this is going to work for everybody, but it becomes like a mystery. You start to kind of you start, you know, pull one thread and you start to unravel it and the body then starts to regain its energy and use that energy then for repair, for detoxification and for regeneration.
00:04:42:12 – 00:04:55:20
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And then, lo and behold, the body starts coming out and and feeling good and functional. And because a body wants to be healthy, your body wants to heal. Now you just got to remove the things that are interfering it.
00:04:56:24 – 00:05:23:09
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that’s, that’s the biggest thing I think that shifted in my mindset probably 15 plus years ago was realizing that our bodies are designed to heal and regenerate and thrive. Right? That’s what they’re designed to do. That’s what they want to do. You know, you cut your the simple analogy, you cut your finger, and if it’s not too deep, you don’t really have to do anything, not even a Band-Aid in most cases.
00:05:23:09 – 00:05:43:20
Nathan Crane
And it will completely repair and heal itself. And you’ve done nothing to it now. You cut it really deep. You know, you might need a bandage it up or stitch it or whatever. But again, it’s going to heal itself. You don’t actually heal it. Nobody heals it. The doctor who gave you stitches didn’t heal it right? It’s the body, given the right circumstances that heals itself.
00:05:43:20 – 00:06:06:00
Nathan Crane
And now let’s say your you have that same cut, but you are exposed to a lot of pathogens and your immune system is weak. And, you know, you’re in an environment where that gets infected and becomes gangrene and starts to spread up your arm. Now your body can heal itself. And what does that does that mean your body wasn’t designed to heal?
00:06:06:00 – 00:06:26:08
Nathan Crane
No, it means that the environment in which you were in your body was in your cells or in your blood is in is not the best and most conducive environment for your finger or your hand to heal itself. And so it really comes down to environment, as I know, you know, and you teach a lot about is not only internal environment but external environment, right?
00:06:26:08 – 00:06:43:06
Nathan Crane
That when we get control, when we understand what causes disease internally and externally, and then we start to make those changes to our internal and external environment, then our bodies are significantly more empowered to heal and to thrive, right?
00:06:44:01 – 00:07:12:22
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And it’s always a balance as a doctor. Yeah. Because you we always want to step in and fix things. But a lot of times, you know, you almost like to kind of know when to just step away and let the body do its thing. But in that scenario, obviously, you have a situation where the body is just overtaken as just kind of the environmental factor or the internal factors are just too much.
00:07:13:05 – 00:07:39:03
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And so then now you need to step in and bring in tools that can then give life force to the body, remove the stressor, support the body’s ability to remove those stressors, and then and then kind of know when to see appropriate time to then slow down with that and then let the body do its thing. Yeah. Medically, you know, we use, you know, we use pharmaceuticals and we recognize pharmaceuticals.
00:07:39:03 – 00:08:09:24
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
They, they have their place. But it’s important to understand that they don’t cure anything. You know, there’s there’s nothing that it cures, you know, frequently what it does is that it just kind of interferes with a normal physiological function. Just sometimes give the party the space to be able to kind of figure things out. But at the end of the day, it is not going to drive the intelligence of the body to fix itself, give nutrients to the body to be able to correct what’s going on.
00:08:10:05 – 00:08:36:12
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
It just cannot control symptoms. But at the same time, it’s important to look at the underlying factor to address those, you know, and obviously, you know, you and I focus a lot on cancer. And cancer is just one of those things. We recognize that the body’s come to a place where it’s going to need some additional assistance, and then you need to step in and see what that is and start to unravel that.
00:08:36:12 – 00:08:45:22
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
But at the same time, make sure that you want to honor the intelligence and the immune system of the body and work with it instead of against it.
00:08:46:16 – 00:08:50:13
Nathan Crane
Yeah, absolutely. Do you watch JP Sears Channel at all?
00:08:51:16 – 00:08:53:24
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
I do. Yeah. He’s he’s he’s he’s.
00:08:55:19 – 00:09:05:06
Nathan Crane
Did you see his recent video about the it’s like the patient who’s meeting with the doctor and he keeps prescribing him all these things.
00:09:05:06 – 00:09:07:24
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, I haven’t, but. Yeah, yeah.
00:09:09:03 – 00:09:28:13
Nathan Crane
All right. I want to, I want to I want to show something here because this is this speaks perfectly, actually. You know what? I need to do something else that speaks perfectly to what you were just saying. I just watched this, I think yesterday or a couple of days ago, and it’s hilarious you’re going to get a kick out of this.
00:09:28:23 – 00:09:34:11
Nathan Crane
So I’m not going to play the whole video. But there’s this part in here, okay. It’s called Getting Dumber and Weaker by the Day.
00:09:34:17 – 00:09:58:05
Speaker 3
You just read that in your chart. No fun. There you go. And I’ve also been feeling a little lethargic. Okay. Have you been doing any exercise? No, but I know I should. No, no, no, no. New science has actually proven that exercise is bad for you. Okay? It’s nothing but far right extremism. That doesn’t sound right. You know the old saying, right?
00:09:58:08 – 00:10:15:22
Speaker 3
Science works in mysterious ways. I don’t think that’s the same. Here is a prescription for Adderall. What’s that do? Well, it gives you a lot more energy and helps kind of increase your heart rate, which gives you a lot of the benefits of exercise without the extremism. What else you got?
00:10:16:08 – 00:10:19:16
Nathan Crane
I mean, it’s nothing. But I did sprained my ankle a couple of weeks back, but.
00:10:19:20 – 00:10:42:24
Speaker 3
The pain’s mostly gone. Okay, this is serious. You want to take this immediately? What’s this? That’s an opioid prescription to make sure you no longer feel your ankles. Great. Those are super effective. Luckily, yes. Why is that? Luckily? Well, it helps people be consistent with taking their medication. But you’re sure it’s safe? In six months, your life will be completely transformed.
00:10:42:24 – 00:10:44:11
Speaker 3
Any other medical issues you’re having?
00:10:45:15 – 00:11:15:23
Nathan Crane
It’s for those who are watching or listening. If you haven’t seen that whole video, go watch it because it’s it’s sad how funny it is because, you know, obviously it’s an extreme example, but how true so much of this is to to your point where you just said, you know, there can be a time and place for pharmaceuticals, for, you know, various prescriptions to support, maybe for a limited amount of time, in my opinion, a time and place.
00:11:15:23 – 00:11:57:06
Nathan Crane
But we know, you know, the overprescription of people in this country. We know the significant addiction that people have gotten on opioids. We know, as you said, that pharmaceuticals in most cases almost, you know, 100% of the time, they’re not actually curing anything. They are going after the symptoms or symptom management. They might be attacking a virus or a bacteria or something, but it doesn’t mean they’re actually getting to the root cause of what’s allowed that whether it’s a pathogen, it’s a chronic disease, whatever it is, it’s not getting to the root cause or looking at the environment that’s allowed that to take root in your body.
00:11:57:17 – 00:12:08:02
Nathan Crane
And anyway, that video is hilarious. You got it. You got to go watch the rest of it. It’s it’s funny. It’s also sad, though. I mean, it’s funny and it’s sad because that’s the reality that we live in today.
00:12:09:15 – 00:12:33:07
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And that is the danger, the power of the prescription pad, exactly what he’s doing. They they make a quick judgment based upon just a few pieces of information without looking at the the totality of the individual, because they only have a few minutes to interact with the patient. So they within those few minutes, they get assessed to see what’s going on and then throw something at the patient.
00:12:33:07 – 00:12:54:20
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
A lot of times, you know, the patient is expecting and pharmaceutical and the doctor knows that and feels like they haven’t done anything if they haven’t given them a pharmaceutical, which in reality is that, you know, like we’re saying, it’s suppressing normal function of the body. So if you take, for instance, you know, omeprazole, you know, an acid blocker.
00:12:55:06 – 00:13:19:02
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So here you have somebody dealing with, you know, acid reflux. So, you know, let’s suppress that on a reality. It’s a symptom of something else going on. Maybe we’re eating too much sugar, white flour, maybe we’re too stressed and we’re not producing enough hydrochloric acid. So in reality, acid acid reflux is is usually a sign of that. You’re not producing enough.
00:13:19:02 – 00:13:46:19
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So now you’re putting a damper on a normal physiological function. So now you are then depriving yourself of being able to digest your protein. You’re depriving yourself of being able to absorb the minerals in your food. And so now you have this this undigested food that goes further into your intestinal track. And because it is undigested as sort of putrefying goes rancid, it starts to ferment, and now you’re dealing with more issues.
00:13:46:20 – 00:14:28:08
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And now, lo and behold, now you’re dealing with, you know, like IBS or IBD, or maybe it goes even further to Crohn’s or colitis, and now you get to go on a pregnancy on steroids. So you just kind of do layer upon layer of of suppressing normal physiological function when in reality, if you would have taken a little bit extra time and looked at why is this going on and unravel the root cause and address that, then we don’t go down this rabbit hole and then end up on what I call the American death ritual, where you take one pill and it just layer upon layer until finally, you know, if your body can’t
00:14:28:08 – 00:14:32:13
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
compensate and more and it gives out.
00:14:33:09 – 00:14:54:09
Nathan Crane
Yeah doctor load he calls it the myth of disease which is this myth that we have this disease that has to be, you know, attacked or treated like high blood pressure, for example, you know, your example, there’s acid reflux was perfect. You know, high blood pressure’s another good one. People think, oh, high blood pressure is bad, so let’s attack the blood pressure.
00:14:54:09 – 00:15:21:04
Nathan Crane
We got to lower the blood pressure. So we’re actually going to give you drugs to try and, you know, thin the blood to try and lower the blood pressure when in reality, the blood pressure, the increased blood pressure is your body’s physiological, natural, functional approach response to most likely clogged arteries. So it’s got to increase the pressure to be able to distribute the blood throughout your body, distribute the nutrients to where it needs to go.
00:15:21:10 – 00:15:43:17
Nathan Crane
And so your body is actually responding to the environment that is has been created within usually by our lifestyle choices and dietary choices. Right. And so rather than going after. All right. What’s causing the body to have this high blood pressure, what’s blocking, maybe there’s some blockage in the arteries, maybe there’s, you know, too much saturated fat in the diet.
00:15:43:17 – 00:16:13:19
Nathan Crane
Maybe there’s something that’s actually at the root of this that we could try and find out. We just write, you know, doctors just write a prescription to try and lower the blood pressure. And guess what? Well, five years later, eight years later, ten years later, you know, you have a heart attack. And that’s what we’re seeing. Heart disease, the number one disease, the number one killer in America, which we know that most heart disease, most heart attacks can be prevented with a healthy diet and a healthy lifestyle.
00:16:14:14 – 00:16:29:19
Nathan Crane
Unfortunately, that’s not what people are told. They’re just told to take some medications and then they wait until they have a heart attack, you know, which is, in my opinion, not any way to approach health. To me, that’s not health care at all. That’s sick care.
00:16:30:05 – 00:16:53:23
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. And kind of to go along with that, I mean, we know, you know, brain requires about 30% of our energy production. So yeah, we need a certain pressure to be able to get blood and nutrients and oxygen to the brain. So if we are not if if the brain is not getting enough of that, then it needs to raise that pressure in order to be able to survive.
00:16:54:05 – 00:17:22:07
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And so if we then bring in things like blood pressure medication and the pressure is not strong enough, the brain is continually going to be malnourished. And so what happens? Well, a malnourished brain, obviously, is going to start to degenerate and deteriorate. And and now we have a pandemic of dementia on Alzheimer’s. And we’re looking also you talked about out scrolls this and you can then bring in the cholesterol medication.
00:17:22:13 – 00:17:47:02
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah we know that the brain is mostly fat and cholesterol. You know that that is what it consists of. So if you bring in then cholesterol medication, then you’re literally drying out the brain. So now you are drying out your brain, you know, with your cholesterol medication and then you are reducing the transport of oxygen and the nutrients to the brain by, you know, blood pressure medication.
00:17:47:07 – 00:18:25:09
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And now you start to wonder, you know, why am I forgetting things? Why do I feel depressed? Why do I. Well, you’re feeling depressed. Let’s get you on an antidepressant. Yeah. So it’s it’s exactly what JP Sears is talking about, is that it becomes a layer upon layer. And instead of then fixing the root cause, which becomes a key and a lot of these different, different symptoms that we have, like high blood pressure is due to, you know, the body that’s that’s that’s trying to use its energy to be able to fix something that is wrong.
00:18:25:15 – 00:18:50:03
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And then, you know, going, I know, you know, we’ve talked a little bit about cancer. And then that is kind of one of the things that both you and I are very passionate about, you know, so it’s the same thing with cancer. I mean, a cancer a tumor cancer cell is when the environment has gone wrong and the body is trying to fix something that is going wrong is cell is not getting the nutrients that’s needed.
00:18:50:09 – 00:19:12:24
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
It’s too much toxins. There’s you know, the mitochondria stuff function appropriately is not getting the oxygen and then it has to figure out a different way to survive. So now then goes into a other way to produce energy because it’s not getting the raw material that it needs in order to be able to produce energy. The normal way.
00:19:13:05 – 00:19:33:23
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So now it’s shifting towards a fermentation. And this is not that the cell in itself has is doing something unintelligent and it is a survival mechanism, something that’s hardwired in us. And we just need to kind of shift environment so that these type of compensations does not need to take place.
00:19:35:19 – 00:20:09:05
Nathan Crane
So I want to go back to acid reflux because you reminded me of a personal experience with it. When I was I think in my early twenties, I had pretty bad acid reflux. It was I would just get this burping and this, you know, burning. Anyone who’s ever had that kind of indigestion and acid reflux and that kind of, you know, just belching in the in the burning all the time, like I’d always have it either after eating or just multiple times a day.
00:20:09:24 – 00:20:38:07
Nathan Crane
And I went into a little bit of research, you know, and this was probably in 2000, somewhere between 27, 29, I think. And I was like, well, you know, what’s causing this? And I found out that actually I wasn’t producing enough acid. And so what most people do is avoid things that they would consider acidic, like Apple cider vinegar or lemons or limes, when in fact, that’s exactly what I learned that I needed more of.
00:20:38:14 – 00:21:04:05
Nathan Crane
So and kombucha. Right. Which is basically a vinegar, probiotic type of vinegar. And so I started making my own kombucha and I started drinking like a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar once or twice a day. And what was incredible about it is I would drink it, you know, I would like have massive s like it felt like acid reflux for about 20 seconds and then I would have relief for like the rest of the day.
00:21:04:05 – 00:21:26:12
Nathan Crane
And I was like, Oh, I’m not getting those symptoms anymore. And in a pretty quick amount of time, I’m office weeks or a couple of months. Like all of a sudden I didn’t have those acid reflux symptoms anymore. They went away as I was incorporating more, quote unquote acidic type of food, you know, drinks into my diet, lemons, limes, apple cider vinegar, kombucha.
00:21:26:21 – 00:21:53:05
Nathan Crane
And since then, to this day and I don’t drink it every day anymore, I don’t need to I’m on a, you know, plant based diet. I have low acidic needs coming into my diet. And I rarely, rarely ever get any kind of like acid reflux type of symptoms. Maybe once or twice a year, maybe I’m eating out and it’s just like I get a little bit of that.
00:21:53:05 – 00:22:34:20
Nathan Crane
But it’s so rare now. And it was interesting because I did I did that every day for maybe six months to a year and then never really needed it again. So, you know, I don’t have a scientific explanation other than my own personal case study and the research showing that when you bring more, you know, kind of these types of what we call acidic types of things in your body, it creates a bit more of an alkaline response in the body and reduces the need and demand for your body to produce excess acid.
00:22:34:20 – 00:22:38:16
Nathan Crane
Right. Can you talk a little bit about that?
00:22:38:16 – 00:23:12:15
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. So so what happens when you’re digesting so you need a certain page in your stomach in order to be able to digest the food. And that’s a low as like to something. And so if let’s say that you’re under stress or you’re don’t have the nutrients enough to be able to produce that stomach acid, so it’s going to take it a little bit longer then to be able to kind of bring that acidity down and the food just kind of sits there and wait and the stomach until the the page level is low enough.
00:23:13:02 – 00:23:35:15
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And what happens is so you have two vowels above. You have the cardiac valve above the stomach, you have the pyloric sphincter below the stomach. And so the valve, the pyloric sphincter below the stomach, it opens up only when the page has reached its appropriate value, you know, so when it reaches two then it opens up and then it moves on.
00:23:36:00 – 00:23:59:18
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So let’s say it, it doesn’t, let’s say it just reaches three. So just kind of sits there and then, you know, the food’s got to go somewhere because it can’t really go down. Possible doesn’t open up, then it starts to kind of bubble upwards. And yes, your stomach can handle, you know, three page, three esophagus cannot, you know, that that’s when you’re feeling, oh, this is really acidic.
00:23:59:22 – 00:24:33:24
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
I got to get rid of this acidity. Yeah, let’s take Tums. Let’s do that. Brazil or something like that. I’m thinking you’re fixing it, but in reality, yes, you’re kind of helping the esophagus of the stomach. You’re you’re not fixing in any shape or form. So the key is then to support the production of acidity in your stomach, to increase the transit time or yeah, to decrease the transit time in the stomach so that it instead of just kind of sitting there bubbling up and then impacting the esophagus, that it actually moves downward.
00:24:34:05 – 00:24:55:13
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And by having enough acidity, you’re then able to kind of break down the food and make it soft enough so that when you move into the next phase of your digestive, where you have your you know, you have your bile coming in, you have the enzymes from your pancreas and then the enzymes from your smaller intestines. All of that comes in to start to work on the food.
00:24:55:20 – 00:25:21:18
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
It’s already done, so to say. I mean, it’s really kind of predigested. If that is not happen, then you No. One that’s going to take a lot of effort for is going to put a lot of stress on the pancreas, is going to take a lot of stress on the intestinal lining. And that in itself triggers inflammation. That in itself, you know, creates an inflammatory environment, an acidic environment in that area.
00:25:21:24 – 00:25:35:00
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So actually by supporting the acidity in the stomach, you’re increasing the alkalinity as a next step. So it’s just kind of a step by step process, you know, so that you’re dealing with.
00:25:36:03 – 00:26:03:09
Nathan Crane
Yeah, and it’s so it’s so simple that you could take something like apple cider vinegar, you know, once a day for a certain amount of time or drink kombucha a little bit each day or, you know, add some lemons or limes to your diet and help support this process naturally and not necessarily have to go and get on a prescription, which, again, is that prescription getting to the root cause.
00:26:03:09 – 00:26:10:11
Nathan Crane
Is it actually helping, you know, the acid production in your body or is it just masking symptoms?
00:26:11:23 – 00:26:37:17
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, and it’s definitely just masking symptoms because you are setting yourself up for more failures later on for more disease, because I mean, that foundational thing is to be able to digest your food and to be able to utilize the nutrients in your food and otherwise that will then translate into kind of cellular dysfunction because the cells need that food.
00:26:37:23 – 00:26:57:14
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And if you’re not able to get the nutrients through the cells, someday you’re going to starve and they’re going to be you’re going to trigger. You know, again, cancer is one thing, but it can be a lot of things that can go on, go wrong there. You know, autoimmunity, any kind of inflammatory condition.
00:26:57:14 – 00:27:33:24
Nathan Crane
You mentioned heavy metals being important to detox with your patients. You know, the research I’ve done over the years about cancer specifically in heavy metals, I’ve seen papers published that have shown when they biopsy tumors, for example, that they find different kinds of heavy metals in the tumors, whether it’s cadmium or mercury or it’s aluminum. And there’s a lot of papers that have come out of that, you know, starting to look at what is the relationship between heavy metals and cancer specifically, is there a correlation or causation?
00:27:34:23 – 00:28:02:10
Nathan Crane
And I’ve interviewed, you know, hundreds of cancer doctors over the years, and many of them all, you know, many of them have stated that either when they test their cancer patients for heavy metals, pretty much all of their patients have some form of heavy metals that show up or or they believe that, you know, the heavy metals are direct, directly associated with the cancer in their patients.
00:28:02:10 – 00:28:08:04
Nathan Crane
What are your you know, what are your thoughts around heavy metals?
00:28:08:04 – 00:28:31:14
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Well, I mean, heavy, heavy metals definitely play a huge role. And the reason I wrote my book, you know, a Better Way to treat cancer, is that cancer is such a complex and such a it’s not a one thing that you can point your finger at. I mean, it is a cellular dysfunction. I was talking about like a survival mechanism.
00:28:31:21 – 00:28:56:01
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
But there’s so many things that can then add to the picture and so that’s why I wanted to create, you know, so people could understand the landscape that exists around cancer, the micro tumor environment and the signaling that’s taking place. And so what what happens with cancer and this happens kind of at any time you deal with a weak area of the body, is that.
00:28:56:09 – 00:29:20:19
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. Infections and it’s it kind of becomes like the garbage dump of the body where infectious agents tend to accumulate, where, you know, heavy metals or chemicals where fungus, you know, start to accumulate. And there’s a lot of talk about fungus actually being like the cleanup crew, you know, due to heavy metals being there, due to chemicals being there.
00:29:21:01 – 00:29:58:22
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And so it’s not really that the fungus in itself may be causing the cancer even though there are some kind of theories out now and regards showing kind of pathways how kind of fungal buds enter into the into the cancer cells and how that impacts on the creation of mTOR and Galectin three and and dysfunctional the mitochondria. But from my point of view, I look upon it more kind of a simplistic I look upon as kind of like a, as a, as a prison where you gather all the unwanted individuals and the same thing.
00:29:58:22 – 00:30:20:14
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You have a kind of a weak spot in the body. And so the body will kind of look upon that as a garbage dump and saying, Hey, I don’t want these toxins over here. That area is suffering anyway, you know, is dysfunctional. Anyway, let’s just move to having metals there. Let’s move the chemicals there. And and so that then ends up becoming the tumor.
00:30:21:00 – 00:30:40:00
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So the issue then when when people are thinking that, well, I just want to shrink the tumor, I just want to kill the tumor and just kind of make sure that it’s going to disappear because we don’t like the tumor. And the tumor has they function, you know, and the function is that it’s holding on to all this garbage.
00:30:40:09 – 00:31:12:13
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And so the key becomes how do we create an environment that is strong enough in the individual so we can start to open up that tumor and start to kind of slowly release those heavy metals and chemicals and pathogens that are there and so that the rest of the body can handle that. That becomes the key rather than just kind of blasting the tumor, allowing then all that that that hard work that the body has put forth to collect it into one location.
00:31:12:18 – 00:31:31:15
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You know, it’s kind of like, you know, it’s right now we have a bunch of leaves on my lawn and actually it’s all cleaned out, but it’s kind of like you kind of rake up all the leaves and you feel you’ve done a great job. And the same thing with the body. It’s collected all these heavy metals, chemicals in one location.
00:31:31:23 – 00:31:51:22
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And now we want to kind of we think that these piles of leaves are the issue. So we go with a leaf blower and we just blow them all over the place, you know? And so it’s the same thing we’re destroying. We’re blasting the tumor, and now it’s just blown all over the place, you know? So yeah. So that that’s kind of my my thoughts are heavy metals.
00:31:51:22 – 00:31:58:16
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yes. Chemicals, yes. Pathogens that come along with us. I mean, they all play a role.
00:31:59:09 – 00:32:23:10
Nathan Crane
I was just pulling up an article from the Cleveland Clinic because I like I mean, this is really interesting, the kind of garbage dump theory we’ll call it, where I hope there’s if there is a scientific name for it. But you were talking about the body just kind of like, you know, dumping a lot of these toxins into that kind of tumor environment potentially as a way to, you know, maybe get rid of them.
00:32:23:10 – 00:32:50:10
Nathan Crane
I know there’s controversy on both sides of that, but I looked up, you know, tumor lysis syndrome from the Cleveland Clinic. And there is evidence that, for example, you know, after cancer treatment, the tumors can release large amounts of these toxins into your bloodstream faster than your body can get rid of them. Right. And they can affect your heart, kidneys and muscles.
00:32:50:10 – 00:33:18:00
Nathan Crane
It says uric acid can deposit uric acid crystals into your kidneys, causing kidney dysfunction. High amounts of phosphorus, which can affect high potassium. So, you know, this is like a lot of minerals that are getting released, low calcium levels, but also don’t they can’t they actually release toxins into the bloodstream as well from the tumor itself?
00:33:20:00 – 00:34:06:07
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Absolutely. Yeah. And another thing to consider as well, and as was fascinating when I was talking to Thomas Seyfried. Yeah, that the summit they just said that when you’re done blasting the tumor or kind of getting rid of the tumor, killing the tumor with chemo or whatever it may be, you have this kind of tumor debris that is then that the tumor process or the cancer process you can then use to reformulate tumors in other parts of the body, you know, to support the metastases process because you have all this building blocks that you kind of blast from one.
00:34:06:14 – 00:34:45:14
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And that allows for a kind of resurrection of smaller tumors and many other locations because, you know, the chemo in itself will trigger kind of inflammation. Radiation will trigger inflammation. So it creates a more of an inflammatory environment that then drives that tumor process. And now you have a bunch of building materials that’s freely available and that can then spread throughout the and that the body then that kind of these these signaling mechanisms can then promote then cancer to reformulate.
00:34:45:14 – 00:35:06:04
Nathan Crane
Right. And then we know, you know, in the literature that chemotherapy and radiation don’t kill the cancer stem cells. We know the cancer stem cells are a big part of metastasis of cancer. You know, if you don’t get rid of the cancer stem cells, they can spread somewhere else in the body and start to formulate a new tumor.
00:35:06:14 – 00:35:32:23
Nathan Crane
And very often when you see a recurrence of cancer, two years, three years, four years, five years, eight years later, it’s probably most likely to the fact that the cancer stem cells were not removed and they found another environment in the body that was perfect to take form. The immune system couldn’t get rid of them. The drugs, chemotherapy, radiation didn’t get rid of stem cells.
00:35:33:08 – 00:35:53:12
Nathan Crane
And that cancer came back often with a vengeance. When I talk to cancer patients, that’s kind of how they describe it, that, you know, they had a stage one or stage two removed. They didn’t really change anything about themselves or their diet or whatever. And then three years later, it came back in as stage four and it spread, you know, through lymphatic system.
00:35:53:12 – 00:36:00:11
Nathan Crane
It spread to other organs. And now they’re, you know, obviously very, very desperate.
00:36:00:11 – 00:36:25:03
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. And that is that is a huge, huge component. And that’s why it’s so important. I mean, if somebody chooses to do chemo or radiation and I’m not saying that it never has a role and never plays a role or surgery. And if a person chooses to do that, you know, the importance to them. And one I’ll look at why did it come there in the first place?
00:36:25:04 – 00:36:47:01
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You know, because the process just going after the tumor is not going to change the process that that created it to start with. So you got to look at that. And that can be you know, we’re talking about metals, we’ve talked about infections, but it can be emotional factors. It can be your belief system, it can be your spiritual connection.
00:36:47:01 – 00:37:11:23
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
It can be trauma that happened a generation or two generations ago. And you’re you know, you’re out of your loving heart. You’re holding on to that trauma for whatever happened. You know, a number of generations ago. So it can be a lot of different reasons, but it is important to start to do the detective work and try to figure out why did it happen in the first place, you know, so that that becomes number one.
00:37:12:03 – 00:37:36:21
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
But then you also want to make sure in regards to the cancer stem cells, you want to make sure that you then bring in therapies and that will then help to calm these cancer stem cells down, because you are with radiation, with chemo and with surgery, all three are going to aggravate them. Yeah. So it’s it’s kind of like here you’re going after the daughter cells and the cancer stem cells.
00:37:36:21 – 00:38:04:09
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
They’re going to think what are you doing with my daughter cells? You know, I I’m not I’m very angry and I got to produce more know so they they kick in with their activity. So we want to bring in them therapies like her human like egcg like was really like I mean there’s a lot of different tools out there that helps to calm down the activity and the aggressiveness of the cancer stem cells.
00:38:04:09 – 00:38:31:10
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So that that’s why, you know, any time you do just traditional oncology, I mean, you got to do integrative. I mean, you got to bring the other tools down because otherwise and we see it again and again, you know, secondary cancers, you know, in addition to just cancers just coming back. It’s yeah, it’s inevitable. I know it’s very satisfying when you are kind of seeing that initial tumor shrink or when it’s gone.
00:38:31:22 – 00:38:48:00
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
But but that’s not the end of the story. And we see that again. So we got to change the script to have a different end of the story. And that’s where, you know, things that that you talk about. That’s in my book that I do here in my clinic, it becomes really important.
00:38:49:17 – 00:39:11:16
Nathan Crane
So staying on heavy metals, I know it’s a big topic and a lot of people have questions about it. We know some of the worse heavy metals were exposed to or things like lead, mercury, arsenic, cadmium. One of the ones that a lot of people don’t think of is aluminum, you know, and not realizing the toxicity of aluminum.
00:39:11:16 – 00:39:38:11
Nathan Crane
We know mercury is a carcinogen, but aluminum, they haven’t classified as a carcinogen yet. But we do know that it can cause kidney damage, that it can cause inflammation, that it can, you know, disrupt the immune system, that it is a, you know, neuroendocrine disruptor. Like there are a lot of nasty things about aluminum and yet people cook with aluminum every day with their pans.
00:39:38:17 – 00:40:09:00
Nathan Crane
They drink out of aluminum water bottles. They’re exposed to massive amounts of aluminum and these other heavy metals through the water that they drink. If you’re drinking tap water, we know there’s heavy metals in tap water all around the country and all around the world. If it’s not being filtered properly, there’s heavy in certain body care products. In fact, there’s certain heavy metals in certain foods that have been grown in really what’s called infected soils with heavy metals.
00:40:09:00 – 00:40:41:06
Nathan Crane
So, you know, I think number one with heavy metals is realizing how much more exposed we are to them than we realize. Number two is recognizing that they have serious consequences, long term consequences on the body. You know, they mess with our hormone system. They can cause inflammation even if they’re not directly like aluminum is not directly associated with cancer in the literature, we know that it has mechanisms in the body that can lead to cancer, like causing chronic inflammation.
00:40:41:06 – 00:41:12:24
Nathan Crane
For example, chronic inflammation is known as one of the underlying causes of cancer. And so there’s there is correlation to cancer as well as other major health dysfunctions. So when you’re talking about detoxing your patients with heavy metals, what are some of the things that you do to detox? What are your what are things that people can do on their own to, you know, reduce heavy metal exposure and actually detox heavy metals from their body?
00:41:12:24 – 00:41:40:21
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, the key in regards to heavy metal is just can I add to your point? Yeah. So we look at cancer as a metabolic disorder. So here you have the mitochondria, your engine, and then you throw heavy metals into that engine. It’s kind of like pouring dirt in your gasoline. So it is going to interfere with your ability to run that engine so that that becomes a causative factor in a way.
00:41:41:05 – 00:42:08:02
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And then also you have, if you are mineral deficient and then the body will look because the body always produces enzymes, always produces tissue, that’s just as job. You just always produce and create. So let’s say you’re deficient in very vital nutrients like that, say zinc, for instance. And so zinc you need it for about 50% of all your detox enzymes.
00:42:08:16 – 00:42:39:02
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So now the body is needing to produce zinc or produce the enzyme doesn’t have the building material, the zinc that it needs. So now it’s looking for the next best thing and that next best thing, if it’s deficient, tends to become then the heavy metal, you know, like then it, it’s likely to pull in something like cadmium in and in lieu of zinc and then try to produce an enzyme that looks kind of like what it should look like.
00:42:39:18 – 00:42:57:13
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
But in reality, it’s not very functional. And yes, you have done the they have a metal in there and it does the same with tissue with. Yeah, if you build the cell wall membranes or you know, within a cell you kind of bring in, then they have a metals, you know, to try to fulfill functions within that cell.
00:42:57:22 – 00:43:38:00
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
But then the immune system recognizes that, hey, there’s something form there, there’s something that is not meant to be there. Like, you know, cadmium is not part of all the healthy body is not part of my tissue. So then it starts to then go after that cell and start to try to kill those type of cells. So let’s say you have silver fillings, for instance, and every time you’re chew or you drink something hot, you will then have, you know, mercury that mostly it’s in the silver fillings start to then cannot migrate down and then you have your thyroid right here and the thyroid can start to absorb.
00:43:38:01 – 00:44:04:03
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You know, thyroid requires a huge amount of minerals for its function. So it starts to then absorb all these this mercury in here. So the mercury starts to kind of settle in the tissue and thyroid and the immune system will then start recognizing that, hey, there’s there’s heavy metals right there, so let’s go after those cells and start to kind of hack away on the, on the thyroid.
00:44:04:08 – 00:44:21:24
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And now you have done thyroid tissue that starts and then can float around in the bloodstream because immune systems gone after it and kind of hacking away at it. And all of a sudden, you know, another part of the immune system sees that, you know, you get thyroid tissue fluttering around in the kidneys. Well, it’s not supposed to be there.
00:44:22:03 – 00:44:45:22
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So let’s go after thyroid tissue even more. And lo and behold, now you got Hashimoto’s, you got Graves Disease, and it’s the same kind of scenario that happens throughout the whole body. So that’s why, you know, things like heavy metals and it is a big, big deal in autoimmunity cancer and so many different health conditions in order to be able to address that.
00:44:46:17 – 00:45:10:05
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Step number one is to prevent these have the metals start to be incorporated into the tissue. And how do you do that? Well, you want to supply them the raw material that you need for the body to be able to function appropriately, repair appropriately, and produce the enzymes that it needs on on a continual basis. So that is step number one.
00:45:10:05 – 00:45:33:04
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Any time you do any kind of detoxification because if you’re going to start to move heavy metals out of the tissue, then you need to be able to replace something in there. So you want to make sure you bring that raw material in and all the living foods, you know, have a huge amount of raw material for all the nutrients full with all the minerals that we need.
00:45:33:21 – 00:45:51:11
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And if you’re very deficient, I mean, you can run these different panels that we do, and there’s a lot of doctors that do you can kind of check and see kind of a nutritional level of all these different minerals. And you can see, well, I’m extremely deficient in this. Yes, I’m going to bring in food that’s rich in that.
00:45:51:11 – 00:46:13:05
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
But maybe I also need to take a supplement just to kind of push that a bit further and move that process a little faster. So that’s kind of step number one that you want to do. Step number two is that you want to make sure that you open your elementary pathways. You want to make sure that if you are going to start to move toxins out of the system, you got to make sure that the exit pathways are open.
00:46:13:11 – 00:46:38:18
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Otherwise, you’re just redecorating furniture. You’re moving it from one place to another because you’re not able to get them out so that you got kidneys, you got lungs, you got colon, you got skin. You know, those are your four main exit pathways and females that are blessed with an additional. And I think that’s probably why they lived longer because they’re able to have a way of detoxifying every mom’s during their menses.
00:46:38:23 – 00:47:09:18
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah they get to kind of clear out a lot of toxic debris that way. So that becomes step number one. And step number two then is that you can then bring in different tools that are known to help to kind of pull heavy metals or grab heavy metals. You get things like zeolite, you got flagella, you got cilantro, got EDTA, you get you know, there’s a huge amount of different ones out there, you know, that that you can use and they’re all great.
00:47:09:24 – 00:47:14:12
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
But you got to look at the other steps as well.
00:47:14:12 – 00:47:24:09
Nathan Crane
So when you talk about opening the detox pathways, what are some things that people can consider looking into and doing on their own?
00:47:24:09 – 00:47:32:04
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. So obviously skin you want to sweat. Yeah. So asanas hot, right?
00:47:32:09 – 00:47:53:08
Nathan Crane
So I got my right. I got my sauna right there. And also my favorite one of my favorite things to do, you know, I right now I do it twice a week and I usually do 20 minutes and then 10 minutes or a few minutes in the cold, like either cold pool or my cold plunge. And then 20 minutes or 25 minutes again.
00:47:53:08 – 00:48:14:07
Nathan Crane
And I’ll do that, you know, twice a week like Thursdays and Sundays. I do it every day. You know, if I if I could fit it in. But the kind of minimum dose I have right now is twice a week, two sessions each, each day. And it is one of my favorite things I look forward to, no matter what it’s like.
00:48:14:16 – 00:48:23:23
Nathan Crane
It’s one of the most I think it’s one of the most healing things people can do. Right. We know you’re from I’m from Sweden, right?
00:48:23:23 – 00:48:25:03
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:25:10 – 00:48:52:23
Nathan Crane
We know. We know in the Nordic countries. I mean, you can talk about this ten times more than I can, but just the little research I’ve done on it in the Nordic countries, you know, Finland, Sweden, Norway, etc., like saunas, are a staple in people’s homes. Right. And we know from the north the the studies that have been done over there that people who sauna more often at higher temperatures, more days a week, live longer with less disease with less, all cause mortality are healthier in general.
00:48:53:07 – 00:49:15:11
Nathan Crane
And I mean, it’s such a great feeling. Like, I feel so amazing when I’m done doing the sauna and there’s a of neurological reasons for that, physiological reasons for that. But people who don’t have a sauna in their home, you know, you can go to the YMCA. Yeah. And use the sauna there. You can go to L.A. Fitness a lot.
00:49:15:11 – 00:49:33:03
Nathan Crane
L.A. Fitness is have a sauna that you can use a lot of local gyms. You can go use a sauna. I mean, 20 bucks a month in some cases. Right. It’s so worth it to add it in, you know, two or more days per week. It it really makes a big difference. But to your point, it helps with detox as well.
00:49:34:20 – 00:50:02:03
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yes, the sun is awesome. And yeah. So one of the things that we used to do in Sweden, you know, you have sauna, then you have it close to the ocean or yeah, it’s so wintertime you set, you set in the sauna get really, really hot and then you as young boys and you can run and most, you know, were naked, running quickly and just jump into the ocean and kind of swim around as much as can and then up in the sauna.
00:50:02:09 – 00:50:39:05
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And then you just kind of repeat that a number of times. And so that was kind of like a little testosterone bravery thing. But the the impact that healthwise that something like that has is tremendous. So it really upregulates your immune system function. Yeah. The sauna will help to kind of it stimulates a vagus nerve, put you in that parasympathetic state where you’re able then to detoxify better, you’re able to regenerate better and that and then in addition to just kind of sweating, getting the toxins out, you know, gestures, sweating, it’s such a powerful tool.
00:50:39:05 – 00:51:01:22
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
I mean, we have all this skin surface that the bloodstream can just pour that can just move all these heavy metals and chemicals to just kind of push it out of the skin. I mean, what an opportunity that you have to get rid of all these toxic debris that you’re exposed to every day. And also all the toxins that produce just from normal cellular function.
00:51:01:22 – 00:51:26:07
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, our cells are like car engines for gas in and then it has exhaust. Yeah. We want to get rid of the exhaust and you know, skin is a fantastic way to do that. And the other way is through these Epsom salt baths. You know, it’s a powerful tool. You in for 20 minutes, you’ve got to do the water as far as you can handle, pour a cup of Epsom salt.
00:51:26:07 – 00:51:53:04
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You can also do a cup of baking soda and with the Epsom salt being there, you create kind of a through osmotic pressure. Yeah, because you have more salt than in the water outside of you than what is inside the blood. Yeah. So then you will start to kind of move toxins into the water in addition to the calming effect just of Epsom salt and the catalyzing effect of the of the baking soda.
00:51:53:12 – 00:52:13:17
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And so and you want to do that for 20 minutes as long as you can handle and you can also another kind of little by a hack trick is to drink your tea and you’ll want to drink a quart of yarrow tea for a while. You’re laying there and you want to do that as warm as you can handle as well, because you really want to bring up the temperature.
00:52:13:20 – 00:52:34:19
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And that will cause you to sweat a lot when you’re in the water and you do that for 20 minutes. You want to don’t want to do it more because during those 20 minutes, the body is trying to cool itself off. So it brings circulation to the skin surface. And that’s when it’s dumping a lot of these chemicals and heavy metals into the water.
00:52:35:13 – 00:52:57:16
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
But after about 20 minutes, kind of recognizes that, hey, I’m not able to kind of cool myself off by being at the skin surface. So then the circulation starts to kind of the blood start to move towards Oregon and kind of crowd with that heat and the Oregon. So 20 minutes is usually the sweet spot and then you just kind of rinse off with some water and then and and then you’re done.
00:52:57:19 – 00:53:00:03
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. So that this was another kind of that.
00:53:00:13 – 00:53:23:10
Nathan Crane
This was this was you draw a hot bath and you put Epsom salt for people don’t Epsom with an M like Mary and not an RN. It’s not the salt that you put on your food Epsom with an M by the way I just have clarified for people and and also did you did you say baking soda as well or no.
00:53:24:13 – 00:53:35:04
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. Yeah, you can it can do. And it just helps to kind of create the water making a little bit more alkaline. So then acids can then move out of your system a little bit better.
00:53:35:04 – 00:53:56:17
Nathan Crane
How much? So when I’ve done this over the years, I usually do like something like two or three. No, what do I do? Three, maybe three cups of Epsom salt and like a half cup to a cup of baking soda. What did you give an amount? I if you did, I missed it. What did you say for the amount.
00:53:56:19 – 00:53:58:00
Nathan Crane
What do you recommend usually.
00:53:58:00 – 00:54:19:01
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yes. Yeah. So if you want to kind of can I hit that. If your muscles are more of a sore and you kind of need more of that relaxation, you can kind of increase the amount of of Epsom salt usually just for ease. And so people can just like a cup of each. Okay. And that tends to be tends to be tends to be good.
00:54:19:14 – 00:54:29:04
Nathan Crane
And in the yarrow tea. So you just get ideally fresh yarrow but you could get dried yarrow too, right? Use a whole.
00:54:29:04 – 00:54:51:18
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Plus a dry air and usually you want to do at least two tablespoon of the dry herb. Yeah. Per quarter water. And so you want to steep that so you turn the board and the the water to boil, turn off. You have put in the yarrow, you know, yarrow herb and then let it sit there with the lead for about 10 minutes.
00:54:51:22 – 00:54:55:21
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Now you can strain it and if you want to sweeten it with a little bit of honey, you can.
00:54:55:23 – 00:55:02:04
Nathan Crane
As you say, your yard’s pretty bitter. Do you recommend it straight or sweeten it up?
00:55:02:04 – 00:55:23:12
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Usually I have people do just a little bit of honey and obviously get a good quality honey. Local, raw, as is always the better. So do a little bit of that and and actually the honey will increase the delivery a little bit of the herb. So it’s not like yeah. Is going to be bad for you.
00:55:23:22 – 00:55:48:17
Nathan Crane
Yeah. This is awesome recommendation, especially for people who don’t have a son or don’t have access to a sauna, you know, heat, hydrotherapy, be there’s been some great studies on that as well. It gets your body sweating and gets the circulation moving and get the toxins moving and get them out. I mean, that’s what a great recommendation for people in addition to or in separate from the sauna protocols.
00:55:49:02 – 00:56:26:13
Nathan Crane
I have to I have to point out something, because if someone goes to Google and says and types in like, hey, does sauna actually sweat out toxins like heavy metals for whatever reason, at least where I’m at in Florida, Google pulls up an article from National Geographic that says there’s no evidence that supports that. But if you actually look into PubMed and you look into the published science and you look into even the National Institutes of of Health.
00:56:26:20 – 00:56:48:21
Nathan Crane
Well, actually, it’s in PubMed. It’s it’s it’s it’s a it’s not from them. It’s sorry. Let me correct that. It’s published in PubMed, which is part of NIH. It’s not an engaged study, but it was a systematic review of studies on sauna and heavy metals and they looked at a number of different studies and I’m not goes go.
00:56:49:00 – 00:57:19:11
Nathan Crane
I think people are going to look it up on their own. But basically what they found was things like mercury, things like, uh, where was it cadmium? Let me see. I’ll just read it in. Individuals with higher exposure, body burden, sweat generally exceeded plasma urine concentrations and dermal could match or surpass urinary daily excretion. Arsenic dermal excretion was several fold higher in arsenic exposed individuals than in unexposed controls.
00:57:19:20 – 00:57:45:15
Nathan Crane
Meaning they found arsenic, you know, in the sweat higher than in the urine, meaning it was coming out from the sauna. Cadmium was more concentrated in sweat than in blood plasma. Again, sauna. They found more cadmium in the sweat than in the blood of the person. Lead as well was associated with a higher molecular weight molecules and interventional study levels were higher with endurance compared with intensive exercise.
00:57:45:23 – 00:58:12:09
Nathan Crane
Same with mercury. The mercury levels normalized with repeated soreness in a case report. So again, there is they also do say sweating. So here’s what they say and this is in the abstract. You can go also read the conclusion and then read the entire study for those who are interested. But sweating deserves consideration for toxic element detoxification research, including appropriately sized trials, is needed to establish safe, effective therapeutic protocols.
00:58:12:20 – 00:59:04:14
Nathan Crane
So it’s weird to me that the first post in Google is an article that basically dissuades people from saying there’s evidence at all around heavy metals being removed from the body through sweat. Right. And then you can go right into PubMed right below that and find some studies that are showing that that’s exactly what happens. And yes, it does say we need more studies, we need more larger studies, etc., etc., but that’s just like it just speaks to this really weird, almost seemingly nefarious thing that’s going on with information today, why people are so confused about this kind of stuff, because they’ll go Google and they’ll go look at that or YouTube or whatever, and
00:59:04:14 – 00:59:25:03
Nathan Crane
they’ll look at the first post that comes up and goes, Oh, what those guys said isn’t true, right? It says, Right here on Google. Google told me it’s like, Yeah, but look, I can show you in the, in the published literature that there is science that’s showing this and there are case reports. And and yes, it may need more to to validate it.
00:59:25:03 – 00:59:49:02
Nathan Crane
Of course, that’s what is here for. But it doesn’t mean there’s no science. It doesn’t mean that there’s no evidence. Right. Which is what they want you to believe. It just blows my mind that this happens not only for all this stuff we saw with the pandemic, but for something as simple and effective, like as helpful as, you know, taking a solemn as sweating to help your body.
00:59:49:02 – 00:59:52:12
Nathan Crane
Detox is crazy.
00:59:52:12 – 01:00:25:11
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. And yeah, because people that detox, they feel better, they’re healthier and they need less medication. Yeah. So and obviously the bottom line that that’s not good for a business that sell medication. So so they would promote it and they would say exactly like you know the JP Sayers Yeah that yeah don’t exercise that’s just you’re just an extremist, you know, don’t be such an extremist and here, take Adderall instead.
01:00:25:18 – 01:01:05:04
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And so and it’s the same with detoxification. Yeah. If if heavy metals were a big deal and that would be highlighted, people would start to kind of look and see where well, where is the heavy metals coming from and then they would analyze a lot of the different behaviors that’s taking place and the market and see what’s in, like you’re saying, deodorant, your silver fillings, vaccines, a cloud seeding the corn sirup cells when the the cells that they use for producing course sirup, corn sirup and mercury in them.
01:01:05:04 – 01:01:24:08
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And so they would look at all these or all the all these kind of light bulbs that we have now with with Mercury in them. You know, all of that would be looked at and questioned. And so they want they don’t want that. And then too know if we support the removal these things, people would not be as depressed.
01:01:24:08 – 01:01:55:24
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You know, people would feel better. They would have less skin issues and they would have less inflammation. Yeah. So now you’re, you’re cutting in to a lot of the different markets that they make a lot of money in and, you know, for their own business desire. And that’s important to understand. I mean, so these people, the pharmaceutical companies, these are businesses, they’re not people sitting there thinking that, yeah, I want to save the world.
01:01:55:24 – 01:02:25:24
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
They’re thinking, you know, how am I going to make sure that our shareholder groups are happy? Yeah, how can we increase profits? What do we need to do? All of these things are are decisions they’re making. And so it’s just if you understand that these are businesses, you know, pharmaceutical companies are businesses, you know, they are going to create science that support their own products and they’re are going to suppress things that are not supporting their products.
01:02:26:04 – 01:02:30:21
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
That that’s just that’s just common sense. It’s just smart business.
01:02:30:21 – 01:03:01:11
Nathan Crane
So you mentioned cloud seeding, and it’s not a conspiracy. It’s a legitimate program that happens. Multiple states in the United States drives one of the biggest companies that works with the government to do cloud seeding, basically on their website dried it you you can up cloud seeding they basically say that they can do it from ground based generators or from aircrafts.
01:03:02:20 – 01:03:36:19
Nathan Crane
The clouds, the cloud seeding research program uses ground based generators which are designed built by dry, can be operated remotely. They use silver iodide to aid in the formation of ice crystals. Now, they say on their website, it’s not known to be harmful to humans or wildlife. This is basically in the aircrafts, you know, is this is this the same thing, cloud seeding, is it the same thing as what people call chem trails or is it different?
01:03:36:19 – 01:04:26:07
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
I’m yeah, I mean, the chem trails, there’s so much of them. So what we’ve seen, you know, it’s a cloud seeding, kind of the legitimate programs that they’re they’re doing and using then different heavy metals, you know silver swan and aluminum I know they use as well. Manganese is another one that’s common. And the chem trails. Yeah the Cantrell’s what they’re trying to do is to can reduce the or they, they’re trying to kind of block the sun in a way because they feel that the you know if the sun shines on us too, you know, that that is where we’re going to global warming and we want to stop that.
01:04:26:17 – 01:04:56:03
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You know, the the issue with that is that you’re creating like a greenhouse effect and an on earth sort of say so you’re you’re blocking the sun you think you’re trying to protect, you know, from the heat, from the sun to prevent global warming. So it is a little bit different. Those are a little different different programs. But the issue is that, you know, the the heat that gets through just kind of bounces between the the cloud and earth, so to say create that that greenhouse effect.
01:04:56:03 – 01:05:06:10
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So overall, you know, you actually increase global warming by doing it. I notice a lot of kind of controversy in regards to the cam trails, but yeah.
01:05:06:10 – 01:05:21:18
Nathan Crane
It’s kind of hard to look at cause they, you know, everybody calls it a conspiracy. They say it’s not true. It’s debunked, right? Like so the mainstream narrative anyway is that they don’t exist and it’s not real.
01:05:21:18 – 01:05:43:00
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And it’s kind of hard to miss when you see it playing, going back and forth. And that’s not normal. Exhausts and normal. Yeah. Just normal plants don’t do that. Yeah. So yeah, it’s kind of, it’s kind of an interesting story, but I’ll let everyone can I get their own opinion about that. My opinion is that yeah, yes it’s cam trails.
01:05:44:10 – 01:06:17:00
Nathan Crane
So yeah, I’m curious about this silver, silver iodide that they use in this cloud seeding program. So the cloud seeding is basically to generate more rain from clouds in drier climates like they do it in Colorado and a number of other states in the U.S.. Right. That’s this is what they say, what they do. I don’t know enough about it, but they say silver iodide is not harmful.
01:06:17:00 – 01:06:43:22
Nathan Crane
But I’m curious if you know anything. It I the little research I’ve done on it says exposure to large amounts of silver iodide can cause various symptoms, including nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, skin irritation, irritation, respiratory problems and headache. Now, they’re obviously claiming you’re not exposed to high amounts of it. But, you know, I always question things like that and they say, oh, yeah, it’s safe.
01:06:44:04 – 01:07:01:21
Nathan Crane
You know, you’re not exposed to high amounts of it. How much are they using when they go up to these giant clouds and dumping, you know, putting the silver iodide in it? They’re putting like a couple of little micrograms. I doubt it. Right. They’re probably putting very large amounts. And then what’s happening with that? That’s getting rained on to us, right?
01:07:01:21 – 01:07:27:06
Nathan Crane
We’re breathing it where it’s going in our food. It’s going in our water. We’re drinking it. How can they say there’s no with this kind of stuff? The problem with these kinds of programs to me and this happens with food additives, it happens with pesticides and herbicides and fungicides, there is really no barrier of entry when it comes to proving damage or real safety.
01:07:27:12 – 01:07:56:03
Nathan Crane
There’s no like in this country, we don’t have this program that says, hey, you need to prove to us that when you do this for seven years, ten, it’s not going to cause cancer in a million people before you can implement this new chemical in our foods, you know, with this new pesticide, this new fungicide, this new herbicide, they basically do really short term little studies at, you know, minuscule amounts for weeks or few months.
01:07:56:03 – 01:08:16:12
Nathan Crane
And they go, oh, it’s safe. Yeah, but what happens when you expose that in large amounts over a decade or 20 years? Does it cause cancer in millions of people? And we know that happens all the time because. These products and chemicals 20 years later become classified as carcinogenic. They get removed from the shelves. They say, yes, it does cause cancer.
01:08:16:16 – 01:08:40:17
Nathan Crane
And yet that company sold that to us to billions of people around the world who were taking in those products and chemicals for decades. And then now they have cancer or other chronic diseases. And what happens is that company, they just take it off the shelves. If they didn’t get caught lying about it, which some of them do, we know they do, but they didn’t get caught lying about that.
01:08:40:17 – 01:09:00:15
Nathan Crane
They knew it would cause cancer. Then they just come up with a new chemical and spray it on the food, you know? So it’s like, are we really like, I can’t trust these large corporations or governments or, you know, health organizations with, my health and my family’s health, which is why, like, I don’t trust a lot of what they put out.
01:09:00:15 – 01:09:08:09
Nathan Crane
I mean, how can you how can you trust what they put out when they allow this stuff to happen again and again and again?
01:09:08:09 – 01:09:37:08
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. I mean, exactly. I mean, how, how when they proven themselves to introduce chemicals and heavy metals and know things that are extremely detrimental to our wellbeing. It’s been proven many, many times now, so why would it be different next time? And yeah, and we’re looking at exactly what you’re saying. We have no idea what the long term consequences and it may be.
01:09:37:08 – 01:10:11:13
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
The consequence does not happen in our generation, but after it, these toxins or whatever it may be, concentrate, you know, from one generation to next generation, then maybe a third generation. Then all of a sudden at that time we start to then see mutations that are, you know, that that impacts our grandchildren. So it becomes important for us here to draw the line now to protect future generations, and especially with things that we have no idea what the impact is.
01:10:11:13 – 01:10:35:21
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And just because they deem it safe, you know, they they thought tobacco was before they thought of it. They had lots of different chemicals. I can’t remember which chemical it was that they did a display at that might have been ETS or something like that, that they just sprayed. Yeah. Yeah, yes, yes, exactly. DDT had all these beautiful women and they just sprayed all of them and they just said, hey children.
01:10:36:05 – 01:10:45:05
Nathan Crane
Then yeah, spray the children and the women and families. They’re like, Oh, we’re spray you with DDT. It’s like, now DDT, you know, is crazy. Yeah.
01:10:45:05 – 01:11:05:22
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, exactly. And what happened to those women? Yes. That looked really safe. Yeah, they were beautiful and all of that, you know, just that one spray. But what happened next? What happened ten years from then? Where are those people now? What’s happening to their grandchildren? Yeah, all of that we have no idea about know just because somebody says it’s safe.
01:11:05:22 – 01:11:28:06
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Look, you know, so, yeah, I’m I’m you know, I’m. I’m with you. Yeah. We have no idea about, you know, silver iodide. What it does know it goes into groundwater, goes into our food. We eat that food, the cows eat the hay, and then we drink the milk and then gets concentrate. You know what happens with that, you know?
01:11:28:06 – 01:11:29:08
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So we don’t know.
01:11:29:17 – 01:12:00:23
Nathan Crane
Well, that’s why, you know, we can take a lot of this into our own hands and make decisions for our health. I believe the closer we live to nature, the more we can avoid all, you know, so many of these problems, meaning eating real foods, whole foods, predominantly plant foods, organic as much as you possibly can. Whatever problems people have with organic, we know that organic has significantly less pesticides, herbicides, fungicides in the food than conventional food.
01:12:01:03 – 01:12:37:00
Nathan Crane
So just getting those out of my own, getting majority of those chemicals out of the food that I eat, I know that my body is going to be healthier because of it. It’s less damage happening a cellular level, it’s less inflammation. It’s less cause for concern. It’s less endocrine disruption, right? So eating organic eating real foods instead of processed foods, doing things like sauna, doing things like exercise every day, you know, doing things like filtering your water and drinking, getting those chemicals and and pesticides and toxins and heavy metals out of your water.
01:12:37:05 – 01:13:00:06
Nathan Crane
There’s a lot of simple, powerful things we can do every day that will make a difference for our health so people aren’t powerless. Right. It’s like, well, I can’t do anything about them messing with the clouds. Well, maybe, maybe you can get involved in your local government. Maybe you can write petitions, maybe you can organize a group of people to to stop it if you don’t like it, you know?
01:13:00:06 – 01:13:19:13
Nathan Crane
So there are things we can do in a legal level and at a local level on a governmental level. But there are definitely a lot of things we can do at a personal level. You know, where we spend our money is where we’re telling them what we want. So if you go out and buy processed food, high sugar food, cancer causing crap and put it into your body, well, guess what you’re saying.
01:13:19:13 – 01:13:36:21
Nathan Crane
Hey, I want more of that. So they’re going to give you more of that. Or you go out and you buy fresh fruits and vegetables and you’re buying organic. Well, you’re going to make it cheaper for yourself and others because where you put your money increases the demand, increases the supply. And at that point, you actually get prices to come down.
01:13:36:21 – 01:14:07:15
Nathan Crane
The more people who are are, because then you have more competitors are growing organic, for example. So there are just a lot of things we can do individually. But then at the end of the day, you know when you’re living a lifestyle that is degenerative, meaning you’re degenerating your body with lots of stress, lots of toxins, you know, lack of exercise, you know, heavy metals, pesticides, etc., ages for 20, 30, 40 years.
01:14:08:01 – 01:14:36:13
Nathan Crane
And you do have a cancer diagnosis or chronic disease. Well, then you can look at what other options you have to help your body fight these things naturally, or using the best of all worlds, which is what you do. Integrative medicine, usually the best of natural and holistic medicine as well as, you know, conventional medicine. And so, you know, unfortunately, unfortunately and fortunately, that’s when people come and see you because it’s fortunately that you’re there to actually help them.
01:14:36:13 – 01:14:53:10
Nathan Crane
It’s unfortunate because the person is dealing with the serious disease, but it’s also makes me grateful and thankful that there are people like you who have these centers that people can go to and actually take action and try and do something for themselves.
01:14:55:05 – 01:15:22:05
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, and it’s that’s absolutely right. I mean, it is is better that I’m needed. You know, it’s sweet that I’m able to offer assistance that’s beneficial. Yeah. So and cannot to go back to the point I mean you’re you’re you’re absolute right there’s only so much we can do to control our environment than obviously to kind of lock ourselves into our room and be afraid of everything out there is not a solution.
01:15:22:10 – 01:15:46:14
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Right. And the key is to, like you’re saying, is to fortify yourself. And like I was talking about, you know, we’re talking about the silver iodide. So if you are nutritionally depleted, if you are nutritionally strong, I was talking about zinc and the cadmium. If you have enough of those nutrients, the body is not looking for holes to fill.
01:15:46:24 – 01:16:20:12
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, it will then recognize it needs and and and it will grab the most optimum building block to build what it needs, even though there are other choices around you. It is just that when you put yourself in that spot, when you don’t have the building blocks that you need, when your nutritional deficient, that is when you become more impacted by these things, you know, all the heavy metals, the chemicals and so forth that you’re dealing with.
01:16:20:12 – 01:16:56:13
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So, so that that becomes really important and then utilize these tools that natural things that that we have to our exposure. I mean I talked about things like cilantro and I’m Lorella Lorella is like my favorite go to for I would say it everybody it’s it’s it’s one I mean it’s like nature’s vacuum cleaner. Yeah and and the beauty with if you do it at and you want it to do at a high enough of a dose, you know when you start because it’s going to start to mobilize heavy metal.
01:16:56:13 – 01:17:19:15
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
The movement of heavy metals and chemicals. And as you’re moving them, you want to make sure that you grab on to enough. So you’re not just kind of causing movement from one spot to another. So I usually like to do at least said to each little pill is like 25, 250 milligrams and I like to do about 60 of those a day.
01:17:20:08 – 01:17:26:16
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So I have so I’m that’s of a minimum dosage that I like for an individual to do. Wait.
01:17:27:02 – 01:17:31:05
Nathan Crane
What did you say to you said to Channel 50?
01:17:31:06 – 01:17:40:02
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yes. So 20. So for us to be five grams times three is will be 15 grams. Today would be to me at the minimum, you.
01:17:40:03 – 01:17:42:20
Nathan Crane
Spread that out. Are you spread that out or take it all out?
01:17:43:19 – 01:17:45:24
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
I usually do it three times a day.
01:17:46:17 – 01:17:51:09
Nathan Crane
Okay. So like five grams, three times a day or 15 grams three times a day.
01:17:51:09 – 01:18:20:13
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Five grams, yeah. 3 to 5 grams. Three times a day. And so that way you have kind of the plural in your gut that’s continually kind of absorbing and pulling chemicals and heavy metals and the labor will kind of recognize to see there’s chlorophyl in the gut, which means that I can push more heavy metals and chemicals into the gut because I feel safe, that the color is going to grab onto it and move it out of the, you know, move it out of the colon.
01:18:20:13 – 01:19:05:15
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So and that’s a very safe exit pathway. I mean, we can talk about the four elementary pathways we covered, you know, regards to the sweat. But plants is a really good, safe way to kind of clear a lot of toxic debris out and florals. Just a fantastic thick cleaner. And then obviously it can bring in things like, you know, coffee animals that tell my patients to do coffee animals because it is it’s such a fantastic way to stimulate the the liver and then also to support the elimination of that toxins through the colon by combining that with something like plural so that you have that binding power at the same time.
01:19:05:23 – 01:19:27:00
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, that becomes a really powerful tool. So you of bringing these things into your daily, you know, daily routine or kind of continual routine where you recognize, yes, I’m exposed to these things, but I’m depleting myself with all the nutrients, I’m using tools to kind of mitigate a lot of things that I’m exposed to them for the kidneys.
01:19:27:00 – 01:19:52:09
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
I mean, one of the areas that’s fantastic for the kidneys is Horsetail Tea or another name for it is Shave Grass has a lot of silica, which is great to build up, you know, good tissue integrity and kind of going to cancer a little bit again. Yeah, cancer is is when the tissue doesn’t have the integrity enough to withstand the movement of cancer from one place another.
01:19:52:09 – 01:20:19:20
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So if your tissue is strong and healthy, it’s going to be very hard for any kind of cancer to just seed itself there and take up root. So Horsetail Tea, you don’t want to do Horsetail Tea all the time, but to kind of bring it in, maybe like for a week and you know, and I have people drink like a quart of it and it’s just rich and silica helps to move heavy metals out, helps them move a lot of toxic debris out of the kidneys.
01:20:20:18 – 01:20:40:11
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Horse healthy. You want to simmer. So if you drink a quart, you want to have at least two tablespoons and maybe even four. If you want to make it a little stronger and you’ll want to make sure you simmer it for at least 10 minutes to get that silica into the water. And then you can turn it off, you know, strain it and can sweeten a little bit of honey, if you like, and drink that.
01:20:40:11 – 01:20:51:00
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So so that those those are kind of powerful tools in order to be able to kind of support yourself as you’re dealing with an environment that may not be conducive to health.
01:20:52:09 – 01:21:10:05
Nathan Crane
Yeah, I love that you mentioned plural because I used take plural a lot years ago and it’s been a long time since that since I’ve taken it. And I literally just bought a big bag of organic chloral tablets like a week or two ago, and I started taking it in the morning and it’s just, I mean, it’s a powerhouse plural.
01:21:10:14 – 01:21:35:12
Nathan Crane
There’s a ton of studies on it for immune system function enhancement has shown the help with respiratory diseases has been shown to help reduce inflammation. It’s been shown to help with blood pressure. It’s an antioxidant has been shown to help with cholesterol, you know, detox, heavy metals and chemicals, etc., like you talked about. Like Clairol is just a powerhouse and.
01:21:35:12 – 01:22:08:24
Nathan Crane
It’s basically just a type of seaweed, right? It’s a single celled algae. And we know. Yeah, cultures who have lived on seaweed. Japan is a good one. For example, who eat a lot of seaweed are just generally I mean, not when they’re eating the standard American diet, which unfortunately has been exported to countries all over the world, but generally some of the healthiest, longest living cultures around the world, including like Okinawa, for example, in Japan over the centuries, has had some of the healthiest, longest living people.
01:22:08:24 – 01:22:10:16
Nathan Crane
And seaweed is a big part of their diet.
01:22:12:03 – 01:22:58:09
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. And the kiwi bike floral as obviously make sure get a good quality source because since Corella does absorb heavy metals so you want to make sure that it’s grown and in a in a good and what’s also interesting and I’m a big believer in that food and herbs and nutritional, you know, living food has a an intelligence within themselves that as we ingest them, we gain benefit then and kind of resetting our intelligence and support is kind of like our computer gets a reboot in a way when, when we eat and it is this healthy, healthy food and chlorophyl we know.
01:22:58:10 – 01:23:23:07
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
I mean, it’s it’s an allergy. It’s been around. Yeah, it’s, it’s it’s one of those prehistoric type of foods that’s been, that has a lot of history. So it carries a lot of intelligence within itself. So if you want to kind of research that your body with intelligence that had been around for millions of years, then Lorella would help you with that.
01:23:23:07 – 01:23:30:21
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You know, it would have that intel the genes, that frequency, that energy when when you ingested.
01:23:30:21 – 01:24:04:23
Nathan Crane
How do you like what do you look for when buying something like Lorella or let’s say Zeolite Zeolites another great clinical delight, zeolite, which I’ve done a ton of research on. I’ve written a blog about, I’ve interviewed experts on it. I take it most days in a liquid format. Zeolites another great heavy metal detox are and and because of that it can also pull up heavy metals into it from the soil right probably just like corella they can actually pull up heavy metals.
01:24:04:23 – 01:24:23:13
Nathan Crane
So what are you looking for? Like with zeolite? I buy it from a company called, Touchstone Essentials, because I’ve researched the company, I’ve talked to the founder, I’ve looked at their I’ve looked at their reports where they actually test for heavy metals in their products and they’re very, very clean. What do you do? You have a company you like?
01:24:23:13 – 01:24:27:12
Nathan Crane
Do you look for? What do you look for? To make sure that it is super clean?
01:24:28:09 – 01:24:47:11
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You Yeah. And that’s yeah. You got to do the research. I mean, obviously I can name off a number of companies, but you got to do the research exactly like what you’re doing, you know, where did they grow it? What what did they use? Some some place. You know, sometimes you want to make sure that the cell wall is cracked.
01:24:47:19 – 01:25:19:17
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You know, do they use heat while they do it, which will then lose the integrity of the cell walls? So, yeah, so those those become, you know, really, really important, you know, to really know what is the environment like where they’re growing at and and also what are the tasks exactly what you’re doing, what is the heavy metal content because the zeolite, you know, since it does bind to things fluorescence, it does bind to things you don’t want to be ingesting what it has bound to prior to ingesting it.
01:25:19:17 – 01:25:28:20
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
You want it to bind to the things that are inside of you. Instead of dropping off heavy metals into you.
01:25:28:20 – 01:25:54:12
Nathan Crane
Yeah. So I know there’s some companies put out their certifications so you can see, you know, third party testing, for example. That’s something I often look for. So I think that’s a good thing you can look for is, you know, trust the company if you want. But look at their certifications that have been tested by a third party to validate that they’re free of, you know, chemicals and heavy metals and so forth with with the plural.
01:25:55:13 – 01:26:07:20
Nathan Crane
When you’re saying five grams, three times a day, do now, how long do you usually have people do that for before you kind of take it down a little bit? And then what’s kind of like a good maintenance amount, a good maintenance dose?
01:26:09:04 – 01:26:28:14
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. So and it depends kind of what, where the party, where the person is that, you know, what kind of background do I have. Yeah. I’ve, I’ve been an auto mechanic, I’ve been a hairdresser, I’ve been a farmer, you know. Well what has been my my exposure and for how long have I been exposed to it. So, so it depends a little bit on that.
01:26:28:14 – 01:26:47:19
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And also there are certain labs that you can run to see kind of what’s going on. And I’m and it’s different than regular blood labs. You know, you have you go to a doctor and then you say, I’m concerned that I’m dealing with, you know, mercury toxicity. And then they test the blood and then they say there’s really no mercury in the blood.
01:26:48:00 – 01:27:10:13
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And so, no, you don’t have it. But what people don’t realize is that the mercury isn’t just going to be floating around in the blood. You all the time. The body that the body, you know, it it puts it in places where it’s the least damaging as possible as so you won’t find it in the blood. So you would need to do that like a challenge test.
01:27:10:20 – 01:27:36:07
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Or you can use, you know, a hair mineral can be one thing, but it’s always a hair mineral. The test is not a it’s not conclusive either. So usually it’s a little bit better with like a challenge test, you know, doing like a DM DPS or DM assay or EDTA or something that will kind of push some of the heavy metals that are in storage and see coming out.
01:27:36:24 – 01:27:59:08
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So if you see if there’s a lot there, then I would do know. I mean, I can do that dosage at least for a couple of if not three. And and then probably I will cut it down to like 2020 a day for a few more months and then for maintenance those, you know, 5 to 10 a day.
01:27:59:17 – 01:28:04:18
Nathan Crane
When you say 20 a day. So you started at 15 grams a day.
01:28:04:18 – 01:28:09:12
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Mm hmm. And then go down to five and then for maintenance. Yeah.
01:28:09:17 – 01:28:10:16
Nathan Crane
Five grandchildren.
01:28:11:19 – 01:28:25:19
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. Two and a half to probably two and a half to five. You know, it’s kind of a good I would probably say like two and a half would be kind of a good maintenance dose if you if you’re not that concerned. Okay, good. Yeah.
01:28:25:19 – 01:28:51:23
Nathan Crane
Well, that’s exactly what I’m going to do then. Obviously, this is not medical advice, people. This is just informational only and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So take it for what you will. And if you need medical advice, you can always if you need health advice, you can contact Dr. Kornfeld and become a patient of his if you so wish.
01:28:51:23 – 01:29:12:02
Nathan Crane
By the way, Dr. Kornfeld, where’s the best place for people to get in touch with you? I know your book is out, which is exciting. I know they can get that on Amazon, which is a better way to treat cancer. Um, a better way to treat cancer. Encourage people to go look at that book. It’s a fantastic book, by the way.
01:29:12:19 – 01:29:35:09
Nathan Crane
I got an advance copy of it a number of months back and wrote a review about it. I encourage everyone to go read that book. It’s probably one of the more in-depth books of our time, backed by research about an integrated approach to cancer with a lot of solutions in there. So go buy that book if you have any questions about cancer, and if people have questions they want to talk with you.
01:29:35:22 – 01:29:39:18
Nathan Crane
Visit your center, learn. What’s the best place for them to get in touch with you?
01:29:41:04 – 01:30:21:04
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah. So just just go to our website, the Karlfeldt Center Ecom. So to and then Karlfeldt that’s like the name Carl but with a K and then he felt something with D.T. at the end. SantaCon. So yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s this comment. Yeah, this is my book. It’s stacked. It has a lot of information in it and yeah, like, like Nathan saying is that I really wanted to give people a manual and so they could understand the whole terrain, what, you know, what cancer is, what are the factors that’s driving it.
01:30:21:09 – 01:30:44:01
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
And then come up with solutions, you know, how to eat, how to think, spiritual connections, some supplements, more of the aggressive integrative therapies to have all of that in one place that people can take a look and and really get a good comprehension of dealing with cancer because it’s such a scary word and there’s there’s so much information out there.
01:30:44:01 – 01:31:04:04
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
So I wanted to really kind of bring together the research out there and as a and as a comprehensive way as it possibly can. And yes, please, please find it on Amazon and read it. Write a review. Write an honest review of what you think. You think it sucks. Yeah. Please write that. If you think it’s awesome, please write that.
01:31:04:10 – 01:31:06:08
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
I think you’re going to like it.
01:31:06:08 – 01:31:17:22
Nathan Crane
I don’t think anyone is going to write that. It sucks how much work you put into that. I was impressed with how busy you are. I’m like, How did you find the time to even write that book? I can’t believe it. Pretty amazing.
01:31:18:04 – 01:31:30:22
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
Yeah, it’s based upon I’ve been in clinical practice since 87, so it’s been hundreds of thousands of patient interactions and 30 plus years of experience. So yeah, that’s incredible.
01:31:31:08 – 01:31:47:14
Nathan Crane
That’s incredible. Michael, thanks so much, man. I always love talking with you. You’re a wealth of knowledge and information and incredibly helpful. You gave me some things that I’m actually going to do, especially with the Corella, and I appreciate. You coming on the podcast, man, it’s great to see you again.
01:31:48:22 – 01:31:52:11
Dr. Michael Karlfeldt
It’s been awesome. Thank you so much for having me. It’s always an honor. Thank you.