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Audio Transcript
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00:00:00:01 – 00:00:25:17
Nathan Crane
Welcome back to the podcast. Today I’ve got my friend Jana Danielson here to talk about all things wellness. Jana is an award winning wellness entrepreneur. She’s a Pilates master instructor. She’s a certified plays instructor, an Amazon International bestselling author. She’s the founder of Lead Pilates and Lead Integrated Health Therapies and also the Coach Ball and the Gouge Ball for men.
00:00:25:20 – 00:00:55:17
Nathan Crane
We’ll talk a little bit about that, which is the world’s first pelvic floor fitness tool for women. And she’s got one for men as well. I’ve used it. It is is quite the experience, I’ll tell you that much. She’s also a member of the holistic Leadership Council. We had a great retreat this past year in Mexico and got to spend some good quality time together and actually got to experience your Pilates class firsthand, which was actually my very first Pilates class, believe it or not.
00:00:55:17 – 00:01:19:11
Nathan Crane
I mean, I’ve done tons of yoga over the years. I’ve never done like a legit allottees class, and I was super impressed. It was fun. It was, you know, there was some challenge to it. It was engaging. You were super, you know, energized and just brought like a ton of education about Pilates as well as, you know, keeping us engaged and moving and getting a good workout all at the same time.
00:01:19:11 – 00:01:24:09
Nathan Crane
I was like, This is pretty cool, actually. So Jana was. Welcome to the podcast.
00:01:25:02 – 00:01:26:19
Jana Danielson
Thanks, Nathan. It’s great to be here.
00:01:27:01 – 00:01:51:24
Nathan Crane
Yeah, I’m excited for you to be here. So let’s talk a little bit about your your journey because I mean, you’ve you dealt with a lot of physical pain in the past, which kind of led you to the work you do now and then, you know, helping helping many, many thousands of women around the world. And so, you know, alleged Pilates and talk a little bit about that.
00:01:51:24 – 00:01:57:12
Nathan Crane
What was what were you struggling with with your with pain? And then how did you resolve that?
00:01:57:12 – 00:02:29:16
Jana Danielson
Yeah. So, you know, I grew up in a small Saskatchewan agricultural town. We had acres of gardens that back then I curse because I had to weed those acres of gardens and that was on my summer holidays. So we had lots of, you know, fresh air. We, you know, you helped your neighbors out. That was my upbringing. And my upbringing was also in the the realm of, you know, when you got sick, you went to the doctor, you had got a little prescription.
00:02:29:16 – 00:02:55:16
Jana Danielson
You walked across Main Street, you went to the pharmacist, they filled your prescription, you took your medicine, and ten days later, you were better. And so in my late teens being, you know, the oldest of three kids, pretty A-type wanting to achieve my best in whether it was athletics or academics. And so I found myself in this digestive pain cycle thinking that I just had a stomach like my dad.
00:02:55:16 – 00:03:20:17
Jana Danielson
My dad was a farmer. He had Tums and acids within an arm’s reach of him all the time. And I just thought genetically that was I was I was predisposed to also have stomach issues and so moved to university. And by the time I was 21 years old finishing my business degree, I was on 11 different medications and I was seemingly I looked healthy on the outside.
00:03:20:17 – 00:03:49:06
Jana Danielson
I was teaching fitness to paid for tuition. I was newly engaged to my high school sweetheart. And I did a really I got really good at pretending and making people see a healthy version of me. While inside, I actually felt I felt like I was dying. I didn’t know what was wrong. And I remember sitting across the desk from my doctor one day thinking that we would plan out like the next six months, which specialists, what I see, what tests, what I do.
00:03:49:17 – 00:04:05:17
Jana Danielson
And she looked, she opened my file and as quickly as she opened it, she closed it. And she just looked me straight in the eye very matter of factly and said, Jana, you know, we’ve consulted your medical team, and I’m here to tell you today that we truly believe that the pain is in your head and that you’re seeking attention.
00:04:05:17 – 00:04:28:14
Jana Danielson
And we wish you a nice life. And she stood up from her, from her chair, and she walked out of the door. And I just I sat there and I walked out of her office and I got to my vehicle and I cried because I actually thought at 21 years old that I would never do the three main things I wanted to do, which was marry my high school sweetheart Jason, have kids and be a mom, and then one day run my own business.
00:04:28:23 – 00:04:45:20
Jana Danielson
And so that’s really what started that was the pain journey that now I can look back was a total gift. Back then I, you know, prayed, didn’t know what I did to deserve a, you know, a life like that. So that’s how it all started.
00:04:46:24 – 00:04:53:10
Nathan Crane
What were all of your digestive issues like? Like what can you run us through? Like what you were experiencing on a day to day basis?
00:04:54:05 – 00:05:23:22
Jana Danielson
Yeah. So the sensation I described, it was like a baseball sized ball of fire. But behind my bellybutton, that’s where it started. And anyone that’s been in any sort of pain, you know, that if you are in any sort of acute pain for long enough, it it it encompasses your entire body. So that digestive pain very soon became chronic headaches, a lack of energy.
00:05:24:07 – 00:05:54:24
Jana Danielson
And as a young 20 year old, I started having like pelvic floor issues, a lot of pain. I would even find myself, like, coughing and sneezing and like, or wetting myself. And I was like, whoa, wait, wait. I thought this only happened when you were in menopause or maybe after you had a baby. What was going on in my body that I was, you know, experiencing things that I thought were like for older women.
00:05:55:02 – 00:05:58:08
Jana Danielson
And I was in my twenties.
00:05:58:08 – 00:06:09:06
Nathan Crane
And so that pain behind your bellybutton was that like 24 seven? Was that after you ate certain foods? Was it when you were feeling stressed out? Was it like just chronic all the time?
00:06:09:23 – 00:06:40:19
Jana Danielson
No. You know, I had for sure I had triggers like it first started if I had an exam or, you know, if I was going for summer job interview, it would be like, you know, weekly. But then it started becoming more often. And, you know, like, let’s we’re talking like this is in like 1994, 1995. And so we weren’t talking about like food sensitivities and, you know, the testing for that whole there was nothing like that.
00:06:41:00 – 00:07:01:23
Jana Danielson
I don’t even think I can’t even imagine going to the grocery store looking for anything gluten free. I don’t think there would have been a gluten, you know, tie back then to it. Right. And so I did I got into this idea that I had to eat every 2 to 3 hours. That was my it must be something to do with hunger, right?
00:07:02:06 – 00:07:32:01
Jana Danielson
So I got on this cycle of eating breakfast and then eating a morning snack and then eating lunch and eating an afternoon snack. Right. So I didn’t realize how metabolically inflexible my body was becoming because I, unbeknownst to me, was riding these, you know, blood glucose waves throughout the entire day. And just thought that when I started getting those pains in my stomach, that was my body asking for food and that was not what was happening.
00:07:32:04 – 00:07:37:11
Nathan Crane
And you didn’t have any doctors knowledgeable enough to, like, direct you in any good direction either.
00:07:37:11 – 00:07:38:24
Jana Danielson
So no trying to.
00:07:38:24 – 00:07:40:08
Nathan Crane
Figure this thing out on your life.
00:07:40:20 – 00:07:59:19
Jana Danielson
Totally. Like I drank all the gross things. I got poked and prodded. I had things going up every orifice in my body and nothing, right. The only thing I ever got was, you know, we don’t have the answer, but we think that this medication will help. And we’re going to give you this additional one because this one has some pretty major side effects.
00:07:59:19 – 00:08:12:21
Jana Danielson
So that’s how that 11 medication lifestyle happened. It wasn’t like all of it. Once it was over this two year experience, I just got this grocery list of meds that I was taking every single day.
00:08:13:09 – 00:08:26:00
Nathan Crane
What did you notice after those two years? By the time you’re on 11 medications in terms of like additional symptoms, it started, you know, coming because of probably because the medications.
00:08:26:00 – 00:09:04:13
Jana Danielson
Yeah. You know what what I noticed most and I wouldn’t have said it then but I looking back is the the depression and just the disconnect from my body. Right. Because I, I when I said earlier, like, I thought I was dying, I actually did because how could it didn’t make any sense in my mind how two years worth of white coats and stethoscopes and lots of letters behind names, how I just thought in my mind I have something so rare that nobody knows what it is.
00:09:04:19 – 00:09:05:04
Jana Danielson
Right?
00:09:05:04 – 00:09:05:12
Nathan Crane
Right.
00:09:06:03 – 00:09:23:16
Jana Danielson
And then, you know, as I was going through this depression, questioning, like, you know, I would look at my engagement ring and think I would I walk down that aisle like, why? Why would I give this man that I love a lifetime, almost like a jail sentence of a wife that who knows how my life was going to progress.
00:09:23:22 – 00:09:46:24
Jana Danielson
So if we wanted kids in the worst way, if I would ever be able to have kids, you know, the thought of running my own business, how I can’t even get out a bed in the morning, how would I write? I would find myself in my office when the when the pain would come, I would lay on my desk and I would against the, you know, the edge of my desk, I would lay my belly button against the corner of my desk, reach across it and pull it into me.
00:09:47:12 – 00:10:11:02
Jana Danielson
And I would just start breathing and I would find some sense of calm and almost like an escape when I felt that pressure in my stomach and you know, what I did, Nathan, is I actually decided to name my pain and I didn’t give my pain like a human name. I just called my pain, my edge called called her my edge.
00:10:11:16 – 00:10:46:20
Jana Danielson
And I was it seemed weird at the time, but when I personified her, it was like I could have a relationship and, you know, notice her when she started to rear her ugly head and be grateful. When I had moments of like peace and no pain. And, you know, I’ve had people in my life since then say to me, like, you actually did exactly what you should have from like an emotional or an energetic perspective is because I really in those days, I hated my body.
00:10:46:20 – 00:11:19:08
Jana Danielson
I was shameful. I just despised everything about it. And, you know, after meeting Dr. David, our Hawkins power versus force and learning the scale of consciousness rate, what is the lowest frequency? It’s shame, it’s hatred. It’s and that’s what I was living in. So how there was no way my body could even think about healing when I was so, like, disgusted by it.
00:11:19:08 – 00:11:47:03
Nathan Crane
That’s what a lot of us go through in dealing with chronic health issues is one like not trusting our body anymore or not having a connection to our body, you know, feeling like our body has betrayed us. Right? And no matter what we do, nothing’s getting better. And then we turn to other medications and other solutions or become depressed or drink alcohol or whatever to try and cover it all up, when in fact there is a solution.
00:11:47:03 – 00:12:17:22
Nathan Crane
There are multiple solutions is we just have to find it right. And so understanding, you know, what the causes are and then focusing on on healing, focusing on, you know what I teach a solution oriented mindset is putting our minds on like, okay, let’s quit focusing so much on the problem and really understand, you know, what’s causing this and then what can actually do about it, what things are working, what things are helping, what other solutions are available and trying new things and new modalities and new healing methods like never giving up.
00:12:17:22 – 00:12:45:20
Nathan Crane
That’s it, right? Isn’t that really? It is like never giving up and trying to continue to find solutions and eventually you will. That’s what I found in my own life when I’ve dealt with issues over the years and the clients that I coach. So eventually you will find the solutions if you never give up. So there’s always hope in my mind, but what did you discover was the cause or causes of all this pain and digestive issues that you were going through?
00:12:46:17 – 00:13:04:23
Jana Danielson
Well, you know, even at that point, I still didn’t know. And so I was in the grocery store about six months after that conversation with my doctor. And I was putting taking my groceries out of my cart. And I looked over at the magazine rack right beside. And I don’t usually like pick up magazines when I’m paying for my groceries.
00:13:04:23 – 00:13:38:10
Jana Danielson
But that day there were Madonna was on the cover of a fitness magazine. And I still am a madonna fan to this day. So I just, without even thinking, just picked up the magazine and put it in my cart. And little did I know what the impact of that seemingly simple action. And I mean, you said it so, you know, so beautifully that if you keep searching and sometimes it’s like the right person comes into your life or the right book comes into your life, or you listen to a podcast, and all of a sudden you’re like, you know, the heavens open up and and there is the blue sky.
00:13:38:10 – 00:14:07:08
Jana Danielson
And so when I got home that day, I opened up this magazine. And in that magazine was an article about I don’t even know how to pronounce it. Okay? We know. I know now that it’s politesse, but I was actually pronouncing it pilots until I saw the article. You know how they have the phonetic pronunciation. And I read the article and then I went back and read it again and again because like I said, I was teaching fitness, I was teaching spin classes, I was teaching, you know, weightlifting classes.
00:14:07:18 – 00:14:38:11
Jana Danielson
I like step aerobics, all the things that were slide Reebok, slide classes, if you guys remember those. And in my mind, working out meant huddle of sweat on the floor, cannot wash your hair the next day. And if you could wash your hair, you better. You better kick it harder with those arms next time around. But what I was reading in this article was information about and it looked like yoga to me, a spinal alignment part and something called diaphragmatic breathing.
00:14:38:22 – 00:15:04:01
Jana Danielson
And it talked about a sympathetic and a parasympathetic nervous system which as a fitness instructor, that we did not cover that in our training. And it kept talking about the healing, like this movement as medicine. And I was like, What? I’ve never heard of this. This was before Google. I couldn’t even Google and find a class I had to go to like our printed City of Saskatoon Leisure Guide and flip through the pages.
00:15:04:01 – 00:15:25:02
Jana Danielson
I found a Pilates class and I went. I went to that class and as Jana Danielson would do, went to the front center of the class, surveyed the class, looked at the people, made my judgments that I was going to just knock this class out of the park. Right. And as we started, it took less than 60 seconds.
00:15:25:02 – 00:15:46:03
Jana Danielson
I was like in my peripheral vision, I could feel my breathing start to speed up and my throat get really dry because these people were following the instructor’s cues about breathing in through their nose and through their mouth and letting your belly fill with air and exit and, you know, feel the connection of your feet into your mat and your palms and roll your shoulders back.
00:15:46:03 – 00:16:08:02
Jana Danielson
And they were like this beautiful symphony orchestra just breathing, and their bellies were moving. And I felt like I was like a trumpet in a grade five band. I couldn’t breathe. Like I was like, What the hell isn’t breathing the first thing you do when you enter this world? How can I not be breathing? And then and right away I just got this anxiety.
00:16:08:02 – 00:16:30:01
Jana Danielson
And like I said, I was grounded in frequency that was not positive about my body at all. And it was another reason for me to be like see, like once again, disappointing, unable to serve me. And if I hadn’t been front and center, I would have rolled up my mat and walked out. But my ego was too proud.
00:16:30:01 – 00:16:53:24
Jana Danielson
And so I stayed for the whole class, struggled through it. The instructor approached me after she didn’t say anything but Nathan. She just wrapped her arms around me. And I cried and cried and cried. And the only thing she said to me was Come back on Thursday. And so I left the studio. My then fiancee, now husband Jason, was outside the room, he was in the weight room, and my eyes were thawing like I’d been chopping onions.
00:16:53:24 – 00:17:19:05
Jana Danielson
And he’s, like, happened in a lot of class. Like what? I thought you were exercising. Why are you so upset? And I just said I have to come back on Thursday, like in in between my sobs. And so I went back Thursday and I went back every Tuesday and Thursday. So twice a week, 16 weeks after my first class to the day, I had weaned myself off all 11 medications.
00:17:19:18 – 00:17:45:22
Jana Danielson
I had no idea no idea what happened. Right. I was still doing things like crossing my fingers and throwing salt, seriously throwing salt over my shoulder. Like I just thought that it was too good to be true. And it was at that point where I was like, The only thing I’ve changed in my life, the only thing is coming to this classroom twice a week for an hour each time there’s something here.
00:17:46:05 – 00:18:15:01
Jana Danielson
And I was so curious and so intrigued and so hopeful, because all of a sudden my mindset started shifting, like, can I truly be healing my body with simple breathing and spinal movement and, you know, posture, you know, checking in and understanding posture? Could that really be what healed me? And that’s when I like it was probably the first real healthy obsession I’ve had in my life.
00:18:15:01 – 00:18:44:01
Jana Danielson
I dove in and as the good Lord would have it, in my small little city of Saskatoon, there was a woman from Phenix coming to do her Pilates mat certification and her Pilates the the full equipment apparatus training. And I was like, okay, if that’s not a big enough tap on the shoulder, I don’t know what is. And I got certified in Pilates, started teaching as a hobby out of our home because at that point I was a human resource consultant.
00:18:44:01 – 00:19:06:24
Jana Danielson
I was helping small businesses with their you know, with their human resources, with their recruiting. And so I started teaching out of my basement. Two classes a week turned into four, turned into a turned into 16. Jason and I were still farming at the time, so we sold some extra grain and invested in a plot reformer and a trapeze table and a chair.
00:19:07:09 – 00:19:36:19
Jana Danielson
And I hung my shingle up and I would, you know, go upstairs and I would be writing reports for my business clients, and then I would have someone come and see me downstairs. And within six months it was obvious that there was a business, not just a hobby. And so I opened my first studio in 2010, expanded to a 9000 square foot facility in 2015 that included an integrated health therapist clinic, grew that until the end of 2022 to a team of 60 clinicians, instructors and administrators.
00:19:37:02 – 00:20:05:09
Jana Danielson
Literally hundreds of thousands of people walking through our doors. And, you know, so that’s that all from picking up a magazine in the grocery store and realizing like that we are meant to live beautiful lives that flourish. Sometimes we’re gifted. These moments where we can struggle in a major way and there’s a purpose and a reason for it.
00:20:05:09 – 00:20:13:17
Jana Danielson
And the right people and the right information comes at you. And when you’re ready to receive it, I’m a true believer in that. And and the rest really is history.
00:20:14:06 – 00:20:45:11
Nathan Crane
That’s so beautiful. An incredible story. So what what do you feel about polarities actually helped you finally heal? What are the deeper underlying aspects about it? You know, nervous system, breathing, you know, movement. Obviously, you were doing exercise and exercise by itself wasn’t helping you heal. What do you feel was was, you know, your blockage, your the challenges that were causing your, you know, gut pain?
00:20:45:11 – 00:21:03:20
Nathan Crane
And what about Pilates actually empowered your body to finally heal after six, 16 weeks of twice a week? Right. Because it is I’m guessing it wasn’t the exercise component. Right. But I want to hear what you what you feel about that, what you think about that.
00:21:04:14 – 00:21:39:14
Jana Danielson
Yeah. So, I mean, first of all, it truly was what I had a very dysregulated nervous system. First and foremost, I was living in fight flight freeze for probably years. Right. And we know, like brain, the sympathetic nervous system serves a very important purpose. Right. It is that spidey sense. It is that it’s the ability for us to, you know, for our thirst mechanism and our hunger mechanism to be shut off for our heart, to pump blood quickly to our extremities.
00:21:39:14 – 00:22:07:18
Jana Danielson
So if we do have to physically exit a situation, we can do that. Right. We’ve all heard the saber tooth tiger metaphor. And my saber tooth tiger was just like, you know, on a leash tied to me, always behind me. But I didn’t but I didn’t realize that right. But because I was in this Spike Lee call, sympathetic, you know, cortisol, adrenaline, always, always going.
00:22:07:18 – 00:22:28:05
Jana Danielson
Even if I was laying on the couch watching TV, seemingly relaxed, my nurse, I was still lit up like a Christmas tree. Right. And so that’s why that in that first pilot class, when I was talking about diaphragmatic breathing and I couldn’t like I physically could not get air past my collarbones, it was like anything below my collarbones and my body.
00:22:28:17 – 00:22:52:01
Jana Danielson
It was like I was a head in a body, disconnected, not not together. That’s what the breathing started to do. It was actually I was so conditioned to push harder, more wanting to do the best, striving to be the first that this or the, you know, bust through whatever glass ceiling I was. I had in my mind that I had to do these things right.
00:22:52:14 – 00:23:29:14
Jana Danielson
And in that I lost the ability to be vulnerable and surrender and be comfortable with what I had in front of me at that moment. Like being present for me didn’t what does that mean? Like if I, you know, I would if I was winning different awards through the different certifications that I was doing, you know, through my MBA and becoming a certified human resource consultant, that it would be like, you know, you’d win the award.
00:23:29:14 – 00:23:50:19
Jana Danielson
It’s like, okay, yeah, great. You’d go to the event, get it, and it’s like almost like, okay, now what’s right there was never a moment to step back and appreciate. So that was the first thing is once I started learning how to breathe, I when we breathe, die from radically some major, major, major things happen in our body.
00:23:50:19 – 00:24:17:04
Jana Danielson
So first of all, we taken 600% more oxygen. What do you think? My cells were having, like a mardi Gras party when they started getting 600% more oxygen. Right. They were like, what we can actually, like, thrive now. We’re not you know, we’re not in this state of oxygen deprivation. I can remember for the first two or three weeks of Pilates when I would start breathing, honestly.
00:24:17:04 – 00:24:35:19
Jana Danielson
Nathan Like it felt like I had just drank two bottles of wine. Like my head would be spinning. I felt dizzy when I stood up, but that was because I did. I was living in such a state of oxygen deprivation. My brain didn’t have the oxygen it needed to have, you know, clarity and confidence. I was living in this brain fog.
00:24:35:19 – 00:25:00:06
Jana Danielson
And when you and those of you who lived or are living in chronic pain know that you it becomes just a regular thing. Like you don’t even think, geez, I feel foggy today. Like that is your modus operandi. So breathing was key. It helped me nurture my parasympathetic nervous system so that I could, like, I started actually chewing my food.
00:25:00:07 – 00:25:17:10
Jana Danielson
Imagine that. I wasn’t like, shoveling. And I remember there’s. There were days I would look over and Jason would be like, just watching me eat, and his, like, jaw would be on the floor and he’d be like, Did you even did you even taste. I was like, right. Like, so all of those things started to slow down for me.
00:25:18:11 – 00:25:42:24
Jana Danielson
I do believe that the place has like a recipe, like a think of like a chocolate chip cookie recipe. So Joe Politis, who created the system of politesse, was ill as a child. He had rickets. So softening up the joints, he had asthma. So breathing for him was very challenging. And then he also had a long stint of rheumatic fever infection in the brain.
00:25:43:11 – 00:26:06:24
Jana Danielson
And so when he was creating places, this is like in the late 1800s in Germany, his mom was a naturopath, actually, and his dad was a gymnast. So imagine Germany late 1800s variant. You know, you’re thinking industrial, you’re not thinking my mom’s a natural chronic doctor and my dad’s a gymnast. Right? So he grew up with very different lenses around movement and healing.
00:26:06:24 – 00:26:35:04
Jana Danielson
And so once I started learning the five spinal movements, which simply are spinal flexion, like tucking your tailbone between your legs, spinal extension, tipping that tailbone back as you like. Look up toward the sky. Spinal rotation, side bending, and then spinal inversion, which is if you’re laying flat on your back with your knees bent and your feet on the floor, if you were to lift your hips into a bridge position, gravity gets to work in a different direction on the, you know, the blood, the spinal fluid.
00:26:35:13 – 00:27:01:08
Jana Danielson
And it just kind of helps the intervertebral disc. So it’ll jelly donuts and and so that movement also was really important as part of my healing. And then as I learned later, right the way I was activating my vagus nerve, you know, that started to improve things in my body drastically. That long 10th cranial nerve, right? That innovates with all of the organs.
00:27:01:08 – 00:27:15:00
Jana Danielson
So bit by bit, it was like I was putting the pieces of my health and wellness back together and like one piece of learning and experience led to another one. Or then I did this training and so that’s how it really all, all came to be.
00:27:15:21 – 00:27:47:11
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that’s that’s exactly what I was kind of hinting at or alluding to and thinking is, you know, what really helps your body heal itself, right? Was your taking control of your nervous system, activating your parasympathetic nervous system, and then allowing your body to upregulate its own immune system, its own healing properties. So many people today live in that kind of fight or flight or freeze or stress mode day to day, and they don’t even realize it’s downregulated their immune system.
00:27:47:16 – 00:28:08:07
Nathan Crane
It has contributed to chronic inflammation, is preventing their bodies from healing and in fact contributing towards chronic pain and chronic disease in the body. And so through that deep dove, somatic breathing, we know that we can activate the vagus nerve, we can upregulate our parasympathetic nervous system, we can turn on our immune system in our body, can go to town actually working for us, right?
00:28:08:07 – 00:28:31:12
Nathan Crane
Healing, reducing damaged DNA in damaged cells, you know, activating autophagy, cleaning up the inflammation in the body and in the joints. And so people live in this really shallow breath state because of the chronic stress that so many of us experience in the modern world. Right. And it’s you know, we could do a practice right now for everyone tuning in.
00:28:31:12 – 00:28:55:14
Nathan Crane
It’s like, do you breathe diaphragmatic Lee, you know, throughout the day often, right? And you can breathe, you know, big, deep breath through the nose and you only feel it in your chest. Or can you actually take that deep breath in and feel it, go past your chest down into your diaphragm and feel your stomach and your your whole core expand out.
00:28:55:22 – 00:29:20:13
Nathan Crane
And that’s how we’re supposed to breathe, right? That’s how we breathe when we control our nervous system, when we activate our parasympathetic nervous system and activate healing. But like you said, like you weren’t even aware of that. You weren’t even aware that you’re kind of in the shallow breathing mode. And, you know, when the doctors told you, oh, it’s all in your mind, like, number one, you know, as kind of arrogant and and, you know, incorrect.
00:29:20:21 – 00:29:47:10
Nathan Crane
That was there was some truth in that, right? Because your mind through the knowledge and experience and wisdom you gained actually is what ended up allowing your body to heal itself. And, you know, I want to talk about shame for a minute, because there’s so many of us that have dealt with shame from our childhood have felt shame and probably still feel shame today.
00:29:48:02 – 00:30:14:04
Nathan Crane
And having, you know, shame in our minds that manifests into our bodies, does contribute towards chronic disease in the body, you know, and until we heal that shame and learn to love ourselves and forgive ourselves and forgive others, you know, that shame is going to be at the root in our subconscious, contributing towards all kinds of issues that can manifest in your body.
00:30:14:04 – 00:30:55:05
Nathan Crane
You know, people probably heard your issues, become your tissues. We know that neuropeptides get released into organs and can stay stuck there, causing chronic inflammation. This doctor can is parts work you know the molecules of emotion and there’s been studied you know, over the years a lot of people don’t know this work actually exists, that these emotions and traumas and feelings of shame and guilt and resentment that, you know, we create or experience, especially as children, that we don’t know how to deal with or how to resolve or how to forgive or let go literally fuel our subconscious into our adulthood and then cause us to have so many of these painful and chronic inflammatory
00:30:55:05 – 00:31:34:00
Nathan Crane
conditions, not to mention the toxins in the food and all the other things. But our bodies are miraculous, right? Like our bodies are miraculous. They can heal themselves from anything, especially when we give them the proper conditions. And the conditions really do start with the mind, in my opinion. Like that’s 80% of it. You know, if we get our mind really focused on the healing aspects that our bodies can activate, everything else just supports that clean diet, removing toxins, clean environment, you know, get the toxins out of our food, water, air, skin products, all that kind of stuff.
00:31:34:00 – 00:31:52:11
Nathan Crane
Like, Yes, that’s important, but the mind is so powerful. I mean, I’ve seen miracles. I’ve literally seen miracles with just the mind, literally healing people again and again and again. It’s incredible. So you did heal yourself with your mind, right?
00:31:52:11 – 00:32:14:22
Jana Danielson
I did. And, you know, as I like as I was listening to you talk, it made me think of some of Dr. Joe dispenses work. Great. And says of the 60 to 70000 thoughts we have in a day, 80 to 90% of them are not the same as yesterday, last week, last month and last year. So we live in that familiar path because even though consciously we want to change, right.
00:32:14:22 – 00:32:33:09
Jana Danielson
We want to it’s it’s December 31st. We have our running shoes by the door. Are we? You know, we’re purging our fridge and our cupboards. We want that change so bad, but yet January 1st and second and third, we still have the same thoughts we did on December 29th, 30th and 31st. So, you know, that is it. That’s really important.
00:32:33:09 – 00:32:53:00
Jana Danielson
If we want that new, unfamiliar future, we have to be present, first of all. And that’s that’s one of the things that made me that kind of triggered for me when you were talking. And the other thing. Nathan, I’m, I’m this is going to be a mike drop. I’m pretty damn sure because and I know we’re going to transition into pelvic floor conversation in a second.
00:32:53:00 – 00:33:19:18
Jana Danielson
But since you mentioned shame, the prudential nerve is the main nerve that runs from our brain to our genitals and the pelvic floor area in both a man’s body and a woman’s body. So it’s called the pure dental nerve. If you were to Google, what is the Latin root of the word? Q Dental, you know, it comes up an area of shame.
00:33:22:03 – 00:33:32:03
Nathan Crane
Parts to be ashamed of puder meaning external genitals derived from pure dental meaning parts to be ashamed of. That’s crazy.
00:33:32:03 – 00:33:58:14
Jana Danielson
Is that not like. And so we wonder why both men and women we are muted when it comes to pelvic floor health that, you know, there is you know, there’s a $21 billion incontinence industry. There’s a $9 Billion erectile dysfunction industry. And did you know that in 90% of pelvic floor dysfunction cases, it is not medically rooted in any sort of diagnosis.
00:33:58:14 – 00:34:17:14
Jana Danielson
It is hold on to your chair as everyone improper breathing, poor posture and a lack of pelvic floor fitness, all things that we in minutes a day can absolutely fix. And so, you know, it was.
00:34:17:14 – 00:34:23:15
Nathan Crane
The percentage what was the percentage you said, of pelvic floor issues there? You said say that again.
00:34:23:23 – 00:34:55:10
Jana Danielson
Yeah. So Dr. Bruce Crawford, who was a year gynecologist from Reno, Nevada, did some research in the middle, like 2014, 2015. And this is this is like I think it was really what started shifting things for me was that he found in his study 90% of pelvic floor dysfunction is not rooted in a medical condition. It is rooted in poor breathing habits, poor posture and pelvic floor fitness.
00:34:55:10 – 00:35:21:01
Jana Danielson
So either and we know with any muscle in the body, a too tight muscle is just a dysfunction. Anal is a as a muscle lacking strength. Right. So that’s what he’s talking about, because for some of us, we’ve got hyper tone, too much tone, too much attention, and for others, we have a lack of tone, hypo tone. So so nine out of ten people can move through their pelvic floor dysfunction simply with breathing, exercise and proper posture.
00:35:21:01 – 00:35:26:13
Nathan Crane
What are the pelvic floor symptoms in men and women that are most common?
00:35:27:03 – 00:35:50:04
Jana Danielson
So the most classic one, obviously, for women is incontinence, right? So there is stress incontinence and then urge incontinence or stress incontinence would be if I cough or sneeze or laugh really loud and leak a little bit. Urge incontinence is more of that. You know, I don’t have to go to the bathroom. I’m walking from my vehicle. I have bags of groceries in my hands.
00:35:50:04 – 00:36:15:18
Jana Danielson
I walk up to my steps and I have to go like now. So you drop your groceries, you’re put punching in the code to your door and you are undoing your pants as you make a beeline to the bathroom. So there is the urge part of it pelvic floor, chronic pelvic floor, pain in both men and women. And that actually is a, I believe the physicality of pelvic floor pain is rooted in energetics because guess what?
00:36:15:18 – 00:36:33:11
Jana Danielson
Guess what’s located in the pelvic floor? Everybody, the sacral chakra, right? The chakra of sensuality, of creativity. And they’re unbeknownst to us. So many of us are like literal. Tituss Like we, we kind of like, we think.
00:36:33:11 – 00:36:38:01
Nathan Crane
That there is a in as well. He really is. This is actually a really tight.
00:36:38:08 – 00:36:58:17
Jana Danielson
Really tight, right? Like the anus is being like think about when you’re watching a scary movie or if you live in a place where there are seasons and you are driving on ice or walking on ice, if there’s instability, even on a path that has, you know, a little bit of unstable ground, you don’t realize what happens. But your body is searching for stability.
00:36:58:23 – 00:37:22:02
Jana Danielson
So you will. Unbeknownst to you, you will the anus will squeeze a little bit. And for some of us, that is literally how we like. That’s how we’re operating our life. So constipation is often a pelvic floor dysfunction outcome, and a lot of people don’t realize that constipation is connected to the pelvic floor, but it is chronically tight hips.
00:37:22:12 – 00:37:46:06
Jana Danielson
Chronically tight hips are a pelvic floor, dysfunctional kind of consequence, low grade back pain. So across the back in that lumbar spine, low grade, like enough to go for a massage, but not enough to stop you from doing your activities of daily living can often be pelvic floor. There’s the pelvic floor has 14 muscles. I have my little pelvis here, so it’s 14 muscles that make up the ball.
00:37:46:23 – 00:38:08:03
Jana Danielson
This is a female pelvis. Men look very similar. They just it’s women have a just a little bit of a wider a wider pelvis to allow for childbirth but cold tingly feet. That’s one that a lot of people don’t connect with a tight pelvic floor because when the pelvic floor is tight, often there’s a muscle located very near to the pelvic floor.
00:38:08:03 – 00:38:25:04
Jana Danielson
We have one on each side of our body is called the psoas. It attaches from the inside of our long femur bone at a spot called the Lesser Trochanter. Then it comes up through the pelvis and attaches to the five lumbar vertebrae on each side of the body and the intervertebral disc, those little jelly donuts I talked about.
00:38:25:14 – 00:38:50:17
Jana Danielson
So when our pelvic floor is tight, it sends a message to the other muscles around our glutes are so as muscles that we need to guard. We need to protect this. This, this woman or this man is a little bit, you know, just we have to just make sure nothing bad happens. So all these muscles are on guard and causing, you know, causing these issues.
00:38:50:23 – 00:39:14:08
Jana Danielson
A lot of TMJ issues and a lot of foot issues. There has even been a link between, you know, plantar fasciitis and pelvic floor because the feet are the base of our of our structure, of, you know, of our being and so there’s a whole sequence that I do with my clients on. We do some inter oral massage.
00:39:14:16 – 00:39:37:03
Jana Danielson
I use one of my little fashion balls that I created to work through these gum chewing muscles, the master and like it’s kind of like a chicken and the egg. What came first while? Who really cares? Let’s work on all three because there is such an interaction. And I mean even the Met gala this year, you didn’t have to watch the Met gala because Kim Kardashian’s photo was back, was, you know, splashed all over everywhere.
00:39:37:03 – 00:40:02:01
Jana Danielson
She had that little teeny tiny waist. I don’t even know how she took any sort of a breath with that. And so even fashion the pants we wear, the drawstrings, the shoes we wear, they can also impact our pelvic floor, which then turns into, like I said, the pain the chronically tired hips, the low back pain, the constipation, bloating and inflammation through the gut is also related to the pelvic floor.
00:40:02:01 – 00:40:02:19
Jana Danielson
Quite often, I.
00:40:02:19 – 00:40:06:23
Nathan Crane
Guess you’re talking about because I don’t follow any of this stuff online.
00:40:06:23 – 00:40:09:03
Jana Danielson
So look at that. This is okay. Yeah.
00:40:09:20 – 00:40:14:15
Nathan Crane
Okay. So this thing is just like squeeze her waist, like, way tighter than it normally would be.
00:40:15:03 – 00:40:42:18
Jana Danielson
He is natch in there. Like, I don’t quote me on this, but I thought that she said that it was like 2020 inches when she was in that corset. And so think about that. Where are her where are her organs going? Where is where? And so that would have so that in itself can be a major like I said, fashion itself can be a major indicator or impactor of pelvic floor health.
00:40:43:17 – 00:41:05:05
Nathan Crane
So her normal waist is like I’m trying to find a picture of like maybe her normal waist. You could compare, is this her Kim Kardashian as it was like squeeze her waist like almost to you know, almost half its size. It looks like, look at that, her normal waist and then look at that. Yeah, that’s crazy. Maybe took a third off of it to squeeze all the organs in there and to.
00:41:05:17 – 00:41:38:16
Nathan Crane
Yeah, I mean, you know, you wear that for a couple hours, probably not a big deal. But like if people were back in the day, right, when women were wearing cassettes, a lot like just imagine how terrible that is for your body. That’s crazy. I want to show this so as to for people who are visual because I’m super visual and I’ve you know that so as can also be responsible for a lot of back pain and because you can see here right where attaches from the hips and you know through the hips up into the lower vertebra.
00:41:38:16 – 00:42:00:06
Nathan Crane
And what I found over the years is I would get this some pinching in my lower back. And it’s a very specific kind of pain. If I, I once I figured it out and I knew like all I had to do was I got to sew, right. It’s called a so. Right, you know, better. All right. So all righty.
00:42:00:16 – 00:42:30:14
Nathan Crane
You can use a kettlebell. You can use maybe your the ball you have maybe can get in there. A ball could break it in there. In there. Yeah. All I once I learned, like all I do is get in there with something and, and massage it deeply and it’s a very weird, interesting pain and for a few minutes and then stretch it, stretch my hips and you know, depending on how bad it was, maybe in two days it was all better.
00:42:30:21 – 00:42:52:07
Nathan Crane
Sometimes a few days, just depending on how tight it really was. Thankfully, knock on wood, it rarely happens anymore. But like, if I’m training a lot or doing a lot of squats or whatever, sometimes it’ll tighten up. I’ll get that pain, I’ll get on it right away and boom by the next day. Usually it’s totally better once I discover like it was a So has it took me a while though, and I dealt with that pain for a long time until I figured it out.
00:42:52:07 – 00:43:13:23
Nathan Crane
But yeah, I mean, you can see how that tightens up, how it’s going to pull on. And this tightens up a lot in when we sit a lot too, right? It literally starts to shorten when you’re sitting in a chair hours and hours a day, which is why I got rid of my desk chair. And, you know, I sit here, you know, couple hours a week in this chair doing podcasts.
00:43:13:23 – 00:43:33:03
Nathan Crane
Other than that, when I’m working, I have a standing desk. I got rid of my desk chair years ago and it made such a huge difference for my back. I mean, nine day and and I think a big part of that was sitting for eight, 10 hours a day for years and years is shortened up, tightened up these muscles and was just yanking on my low back.
00:43:34:02 – 00:43:52:05
Jana Danielson
Well and then there’s there’s that you know sitting at a desk but then think about how many people are side sleepers that sleep with their knees bent. You’re essentially in a seated position, just 90 degrees on your mattress, laying on your bed. So some people will sleep in that position all night and then they’ll sit in that position for most of the day.
00:43:52:08 – 00:44:16:20
Jana Danielson
Wow. And. Right. So this is why even like something as simple as, you know, 5 minutes a day, like getting on the floor, getting off of your chair. It does wonders for our hips. And I mean, kudos to you, Nathan, because not a lot of people we get so conditioned with going to the source of the discomfort and believing that that is the root cause.
00:44:17:02 – 00:44:17:08
Jana Danielson
Right.
00:44:17:16 – 00:44:33:07
Nathan Crane
There’s something wrong with my back, my legs, the problem. And then we get pain meds and we go to a doctor and they never want to do surgery. And then we do surgery on the spine. They go, Oh, you’re fired, vertebra. It’s like, No, you know, it’s like so many of those things can be resolved naturally and know.
00:44:33:18 – 00:44:39:16
Nathan Crane
Yeah, exactly. And they’re usually stemming from somewhere else, is what you’re saying. Absolutely.
00:44:39:16 – 00:44:58:21
Jana Danielson
Yeah. And that’s why I think, like, you know, for me, the healthy feet, you know, using there is there’s a high degree of lymph tissue behind the knee. So a lot of knee discomfort. I think, again, like sitting on a chair. It’s like you have a garden hose that’s kinked at your hips and then a garden hose that’s kinked at your knee.
00:44:58:21 – 00:45:27:00
Jana Danielson
If you have water coming out near your feet to water, your garden, your garden is not going to get a whole bunch of water because you’ve got two kinks in that hose. So because our lymphatic system doesn’t have a natural pump, like our circulatory system has our heart, we have to through breathing and movement. And then sometimes, you know, things like dry brushing or castor oil, even just taking your hand, one like every couple of hours behind your knee and giving it like five or ten, really nice, assertive, like slaps behind the knee.
00:45:27:09 – 00:45:46:08
Jana Danielson
That is enough to get that lymph tissue moving or fluid moving. And we don’t then feel like the you know, I often say the the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz after a heavy rain, like after a serious day of work, when we’re focused on this screen, it takes a couple of steps before we can, you know, get truly upright.
00:45:46:08 – 00:46:15:02
Jana Danielson
And I’m here to tell everyone that we have to I want to encourage us to stop using the fact that we maybe just had another candle on our birthday cake as the excuse or as being okay with these small little aches and pains that happen. Because it we’re learning so much now about longevity and and how to age gracefully and what the body can do if you put it in the right situation.
00:46:15:12 – 00:46:37:19
Nathan Crane
Exactly. Back to the topic of shame. So, you know, I’ve done a tremendous amount of, you know, emotional healing work over the last 17 plus years and. And, you know, because I really started kind of my healing journey and spiritual journey in 2005. So it’s I think it’s is a coming up.
00:46:37:19 – 00:46:38:23
Jana Danielson
But in almost.
00:46:38:23 – 00:47:03:21
Nathan Crane
20 years actually I don’t know. I keep saying 17. So it was 20 years like 19 or 20 years, just I fly by whatever the last couple of decades I’ve done tremendous amount, you know, meditations and all kinds of healing modalities and practices and sweat lodges and and therapies and you name it. Because, you know, I had a really rough childhood, I think, you know, you know, homeless drug addiction, alcohol addiction, you know, near death at 17 years old.
00:47:03:21 – 00:47:29:07
Nathan Crane
So many issues and many traumas that I’ve had to resolve. And like, I’m still discovering things, you know, still almost 20 years later. So, you know, I’ve had some like tendinitis show up recently and I’ve really been wanting to get to the root cause of it and and why it hasn’t fully healed. It’s like healed like 85, 90% past few months, but it’s like still there’s still some nagging stuff and there’s like an underlying thing.
00:47:29:21 – 00:47:50:01
Nathan Crane
I wince on acupuncturist and then he goes, Hey, did your parents divorce? You know, you have a little crack down your tongue? I said, Yeah, when I was 12. And and he and he said, Well, this is it. Your internal organs are out of balance and we’re going to help get things back into balance and harmony again. And so I thought, okay, interesting.
00:47:50:01 – 00:48:11:20
Nathan Crane
My mind in my memory, like my parents divorcing was a good thing. I thought they fought a lot, you know, they were had so many issues at 12 years old. I remember feeling good that they divorced. And then I talked to my mom about and she goes, No, you were devastated. I said, really feel. Yeah, you were crying.
00:48:11:20 – 00:48:31:20
Nathan Crane
You were so upset. You were devastated. I said, I don’t even remember that at all. I have no memory of that. Zero. All I remember is a positive spin on that. They got divorced. So immediately I go, okay, so I suppressed that emotion at 12 years old and just put a positive spin on it, you know, for protection for survival.
00:48:32:04 – 00:48:59:04
Nathan Crane
So I hired a RTT therapist rapid transformational therapy and if you know about that modality, but it’s incredible. It’s like 20 years of therapy and in a two hour session, it’s hypnotherapy, you know, guided. You go to the subconscious and then you have your subconscious guide you to, you know, various what you need to heal that’s directly associated with whatever issue is going on in your body or your life currently.
00:48:59:04 – 00:49:18:17
Nathan Crane
Right. Could be relationship issues you’re dealing with, could be money issues you’re dealing with, could be physical health issues. So we ask my subconscious to take me to the, you know, memories, experiences, root causes of what’s, you know, kind of preventing this balance in my body and preventing it to, like, fully heal from this tendonitis. And so we went to three different memories.
00:49:18:23 – 00:49:40:14
Nathan Crane
One was when I was 12, which was the same age to divorce. But we didn’t get to the divorce, by the way, which was interesting, but one when I was 12, one when I was ten and one when I was seven, and the one when I was seven. I didn’t even want to go into I actually kind of forgot about it, you know, kind of buried it, pushed it aside and hadn’t thought much about it over the years.
00:49:40:14 – 00:50:14:06
Nathan Crane
But it was an experience I had when I was seven where I felt this deep shame as a seven year old and had, you know, didn’t tell anybody about it, didn’t have any way to resolve the issue emotionally and basically created this kind of protection in my body to hold on to that shame, which later, you know, is what I think and what the therapy has identified is like, you know, cause some of these things to be out of balance and this inflammation, you know, 30 years later.
00:50:14:06 – 00:50:34:17
Nathan Crane
Right. And so resolving that, becoming aware of it, you know, loving, forgiving, bringing that seven year old back with me, understanding is, you know, basically eliminating that shame and saying there’s nothing to be ashamed of. A seven year old who was experimenting with these things, there was like nothing to be ashamed of at all. In fact, it was very natural, normal for a seven year old to do that.
00:50:34:17 – 00:50:52:08
Nathan Crane
I’m like, yeah, I have an eight year old. And you know, it’s like I could talk to him through those things and not make him feel guilty or shameful. Absolutely. So having that awareness and then and then that shame and also like feelings of worthlessness and feelings of like I’m a bad person, right? Like how that then showed up at ten years old.
00:50:52:08 – 00:51:09:18
Nathan Crane
And another situation again at 12 years old. And then after 12, like my life went really downhill. I really did become a bad person, do a lot of bad things. You know how those things start at such an early age and we don’t know how to deal with and resolve it. And, you know, and then it manifests in our body and we hold on to it.
00:51:09:18 – 00:51:30:22
Nathan Crane
So big part of that session was awareness and then basically forgiving, healing, understanding, bring compassion, love, bring that seven, ten and 12 year old back with me now. I mean, I released some serious tears. I was crying like crazy, like I hadn’t cried that way in a long time, like I obviously really needed to. And, you know, and.
00:51:30:22 – 00:51:33:02
Jana Danielson
There was one session. Nathan That was one.
00:51:33:02 – 00:51:51:19
Nathan Crane
Session is a two hour session and then we healed. The lineage is seven generations back and seven generations forward on my dad’s side, on my mom’s side, like we did a lot like you do, it was, it was work. It was like 2 hours of work. I remember being half way into it and I’m like, I’m like, do I really want to continue this?
00:51:51:19 – 00:52:08:23
Nathan Crane
I’m like, yes, I want to heal. I want to heal. So, you know, and she was like, because you’re conscious in hypnosis, you can come out of it any moment. You can say yes or no, right? Like, but you’re in that deep theta state and where you can really heal the subconscious, which is where all this stuff comes from.
00:52:08:23 – 00:52:30:21
Nathan Crane
Right. And so I remember, yeah, when the memory popped up and I go, Oh, man, I don’t know if I want to go there. She’s like, Well, you don’t have to, you know, it’s up to you. And I said, Well, I want to Hill I want to be free of this, so let’s go there. And so it was, you know, it took courage in me to go there and talk about this with somebody else, you know, and face it.
00:52:30:21 – 00:52:49:02
Nathan Crane
And so part of the work we have to do is face the things that we’re afraid of. And so shame and worthlessness and feeling I’m a bad person, right? Those that start those kinds of things starts so young. And until we become aware of it and have that understanding and then can heal it, it’s going to show up.
00:52:49:02 – 00:53:13:10
Nathan Crane
Even though I’ve done so much work in other ways, like there’s still a little bit that, you know, in the subconscious that’s kind of like sabotaging my life in the background, no matter how much conscious work I do today, right? No matter how many soreness and, you know, even meditations that I do in ice baths and nutrition and detox and, you know, red light therapy and all the stuff I do to keep myself incredibly healthy.
00:53:14:01 – 00:53:36:02
Nathan Crane
There’s still that little bit that’s like preventing me from really experiencing my highest, you know, mental, emotional, physical, spiritual potential. And so that was incredible. And now I’m listening to a guided meditation that was created from that session. It’s about 15 minutes. You do that every day for 21 days, and then we do a follow up coaching session and then we’ll do I agree to do 90 days.
00:53:36:02 – 00:54:05:18
Nathan Crane
So three sessions and usually you can result with RTT. They claim you can resolve most anything in 1 to 3 sessions. So whether it’s alcohol addiction, drug addiction, cigaret addiction, it’s these feelings of shame and worthlessness, whatever. You know, any of these underlying emotional issues often get resolved in, you know, somewhere between one and three sessions. So as long as you follow through with listening to the recording after 15 minutes a day, you know, and follow up with it.
00:54:05:18 – 00:54:19:03
Nathan Crane
So I said, Yeah, I agree to three sessions. I see this all the way through and I see what happens. I can tell you I feel like a changed person literally in one session, like a totally different person already. It’s crazy.
00:54:19:03 – 00:54:20:23
Jana Danielson
Was this in person or to shoot?
00:54:20:23 – 00:54:42:19
Nathan Crane
No, I just run Zoom. I did it on Zoom. She was an amazing therapist. I would say probably not all therapists are the same, but they’re all certified and trained through the same program. They’re all over the world. Marissa peer is trained. You know, I know Marissa pretty well. She’s the one who kind of invented RTT she has trained thousands of practitioners.
00:54:42:19 – 00:55:05:20
Nathan Crane
You can do it on Zoom, you know, and it worked great on Zoom, like on my phone. There was no problem with that. And and yeah, I just found her through the RTT Practitioners website I just went through and was like looking for someone who was certified as a practitioner and a and a coach and then someone who seemed like they had a lot of experience.
00:55:05:20 – 00:55:21:20
Nathan Crane
I probably looked at five or six websites and just kind of watched their videos and then I found someone that I resonated with. I liked, you know, her presence, her voice, her energy. And I just and her experience. And I thought, you know what? I, I think this might be the person. So here it was her for about 45 minutes.
00:55:22:04 – 00:55:37:08
Nathan Crane
Yeah, it was. It was a game changer. I mean, really, like, so that deep work is so essential in addition to the work you’re talking about with, you know, pelvic floor health and like it’s all connected, right? It’s literally all connected.
00:55:38:07 – 00:55:48:18
Jana Danielson
Yeah. Did you you had a session with our colleague David, Dr. David Pacelli. Right, with his. The trauma, the tremor.
00:55:48:23 – 00:55:56:19
Nathan Crane
I’ve done a few sessions with him personally, and then he led. Were you there at the group session? He had one at the HLC that we did.
00:55:56:19 – 00:55:57:06
Jana Danielson
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:57:11 – 00:56:02:08
Nathan Crane
Yeah, yeah. Now I’ve had some crazy like such an amazing experience.
00:56:03:03 – 00:56:23:23
Jana Danielson
Yeah, we. I did what after. Well before did the one in HLC, I did one and over zoom with him when I was back at home in Mexico and then I had my husband Jason do one too. And it was mean again. I mean, I do I want to go and check out this RTT thing simply because like you said, I mean, you get 80% or 90% of the way there.
00:56:23:23 – 00:56:37:14
Jana Danielson
Yeah. And you know what? What is it? And you can’t I mean, as good as you try, I don’t think we can actually access those things on our own. I think we do need help with someone trained like this to get there, get us.
00:56:37:15 – 00:56:58:16
Nathan Crane
So. So Collette Striker, who just joined the HLC, Tom says he’s gone through her program and says it’s unbelievable really. I’m going to go through it and check it out. But he said she trains you on how to do that kind of deep, you know, resolving work on your own. Her program is Maps. Let’s see if I can.
00:56:58:20 – 00:57:19:02
Nathan Crane
I think it’s called maps something. So I talked to him for like we talked for like a good, you know, 45 minutes. Yes. Okay. It’s called Map Coaching Institute. Apparently, like Tom says, he’s been able to go and do deep, deep healing work, getting trained by. And you can learn to do it on your own like you can.
00:57:19:02 – 00:57:35:24
Nathan Crane
You have therapist and practitioners guide you, but they train you on how to do it on your own too, which can be a great tool. Right? Like I like to have a therapist guide me through stuff like this and then learn it and then and then learn how to do it on my own. Absolutely. I love that. And some people don’t ever want to learn how to do it on their own.
00:57:35:24 – 00:57:53:10
Nathan Crane
They just want someone to guide them through it and others want the empowerment to do it on their own whenever they need it. But yeah, Tom speaks so highly of the Map Coaching Institute, so I’m going to check that one out next because there’s always stuff to work on, you know? It’s like there’s always something, you know, until we’re enlightened.
00:57:53:10 – 00:58:11:01
Nathan Crane
Until we’re enlightened is like, you know, there’s always going to be something to work on and something to get, you know? And it’s like, Yeah, you move that extra when you’re at 85, 90%, it’s like you move up another percent. And then that 1% at that point is like ten x, right? You move another 1%, it’s like another ten x.
00:58:11:01 – 00:58:28:06
Nathan Crane
So, you know, when you’re at 30% and then you, you know, you jump to like 50 or 60% because you do something like that. It’s such a game changer in your life as well. Yeah, it was amazing. I highly recommend it. I can send you the contact of the therapist I went through to. I would highly recommend her.
00:58:28:06 – 00:58:37:19
Nathan Crane
She was really, really good. She’s really like she’s got the scientific side dial down, dialed in. But I would say she’s also very intuitive and calm, you know. Yeah.
00:58:37:21 – 00:59:06:00
Jana Danielson
And I it’s so like you are the physicality of this, you know, of our humanness is not one dimensional. Like, it’s not like you have tendinitis, therefore, you must have been doing something, you know, bio mechanically wrong with that, you know, with that finger, with that whole arm, whatever it was. And I think I feel like there’s a shift.
00:59:06:08 – 00:59:24:10
Jana Danielson
Nathan Don’t you like I feel like there is more people now that are starting to connect the dots like five or ten years ago, it felt like we were such a little minority that we’re kind of like, maybe a little bit loopy. You know, when you would you would hear someone say Center seven generations and seven generations forward.
00:59:24:10 – 00:59:52:08
Jana Danielson
And I had that experience. I had my first plot metrics and experience before Christmas. And that in the in the integration piece of my experience, the shaman that was leading me through the, you know, through my my three days actually helped me understand that. And so the physicality of our fill in the blank, what whatever it is, chronic headaches, low back pain, knee pain, it’s not related.
00:59:52:08 – 01:00:17:00
Jana Danielson
I just wanted this like a public service announcement. It’s not you don’t have arthritis because your dad had arthritis and your grandma had arthritis. Like, you know, we know that genetically what is it? Less than 10% of illness is actually genetically determined. Guess what that means? 90% is not. And that’s where this whole concept of, you know, yes, there’s metabolic health and terrain and the physicality of it.
01:00:17:00 – 01:00:36:15
Jana Danielson
And there are these beautiful aspects of who we are, the emotionality and the, you know, the energetics and the frequency. And, you know, I just love this platform you’ve created, Nathan, because we can have conversations about all these pieces and not have to think, okay, well, I can’t talk about that on this podcast. I got to save that for a different one.
01:00:36:15 – 01:00:42:07
Jana Danielson
So kudos to you for creating, you know, the safe, just curious space you have.
01:00:42:13 – 01:00:47:13
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Thank you. Now, let’s go deep into that because, you know, have you read Autobiography of a Yogi?
01:00:48:11 – 01:00:49:01
Jana Danielson
Oh.
01:00:49:08 – 01:00:53:20
Nathan Crane
Okay. So, I mean. Well, you know, do you know about Paramahansa Yogananda?
01:00:54:21 – 01:00:56:04
Jana Danielson
I see no name.
01:00:56:04 – 01:01:19:01
Nathan Crane
Sound familiar? Okay. So Yogananda came to the west early mid 1900s. Basically, he brought yoga here to the west. Right. And then he opened the Self-Realization Fellowship. And if you’ve ever been to you, I don’t know if you have anybody who’s ever been to Encinitas, California, and goes to the meditation gardens overlooking the bluffs there at the Self-Realization Fellowship.
01:01:19:01 – 01:02:02:20
Nathan Crane
That’s one of the places that he started. And, you know, he he he trained in kriya yoga. And you know what? The Ricci’s in India, the master teachers in India training, which is basically how to become enlightened beings, very similar to, you know, Buddhist teachings, but slight differences and nuances different than Hinduism, as it’s become today, is is more like the deeper, esoteric teachings from the Vedas, from the Bhagavad Gita, like taking the messages and trainings and teachings to become, you know, an enlightened being and enlightenment, meaning, you know, you don’t see any mistake in appearances.
01:02:02:20 – 01:02:28:23
Nathan Crane
You have no you no judgments, doubts, worries, fears, angers, resentments you don’t sin. And Christians would believe many Christians would believe, well, you can’t not sin. But actually there are many people who have claimed and many who know people who they would say, yes, this person was became an enlightened being. They could do all of these incredible superhuman abilities and were the most loving, kind, compassionate people you could ever meet in your life who did get to a place of no sin.
01:02:29:04 – 01:02:55:05
Nathan Crane
Basically enlightenment of, you know, having the ability to. He shares a story of of one of the the Ricci’s one of the the yogic masters, where the police officer was telling Yogananda that when he ran after this guy, who he thought was a thief there, was getting away from him, that he, you know, ended up cutting the guy’s arm off.
01:02:55:09 – 01:03:24:05
Nathan Crane
And and and then he realized, oh, my gosh, this was like a yogic master. And he felt so terrible. Shame, right? Talk about shame again. And then the yogi said, you know, don’t worry about it. Let it go. I’ll, I’ll reattach this by this by this evening. And, you know, forgive yourself. And and literally, the police officer went to go check on him later evening or the next day, within three days, basically, he had reattached his own arm and regrew it with zero scars.
01:03:25:00 – 01:03:57:03
Nathan Crane
Right. Like stories like this that some people would believe too crazy to believe to to be true. But I believe them. And Yogananda had many followers here in the West, you know, through the mid 1900s who saw some of the miracles that he did, you know, similar to what you would say Jesus did. And there are many yogis today who have done very similar miracles, and people claim that they’ve seen them do those kinds of miracles, heal people instantaneously from disease.
01:03:57:03 – 01:04:17:22
Nathan Crane
Right. With their mind, with their hands, regrow limbs. Do you know trends operate. So putting their body literally. Yogananda is telling a story of one of his teachers where he’s sitting there and he goes into meditation, deep meditation, and he just felt yoga now and felt like even I could see him. He was no longer there in front of him.
01:04:18:11 – 01:04:43:01
Nathan Crane
And he went actually operated on another body, if you will, to go find a man that to meet. Yogananda brought him back to his kind of apartment where he was staying, and then and then disappeared back into and yoga. And I was there for 30 minutes, never saw the guy leave. And the guy came and he said, Oh, yeah, this teacher told me to come here.
01:04:43:01 – 01:04:57:08
Nathan Crane
I need to meet you right now. And then he and then he kind of ran off and yoga and I was like, What are you talking about? Like he’s been here in front of me the whole time because I’m not lying to you. He was. He was even wearing those sandals right there. He guided me here. How would I know to come here?
01:04:57:08 – 01:05:18:12
Nathan Crane
And they’re, like, tripping out because the guy never left in front of him. All these kinds of stories that Yogananda shares, how these enlightened beings with all these incredible powers that he learned from over the years and went to the Himalayas to learn from these master yoga teachers. And so anyway, Autobiography of a Yogi, I read it. I don’t know how many years ago, but I’m listening to it again now on tape.
01:05:18:12 – 01:05:44:07
Nathan Crane
And I’m actually diving into more of like his teachings because he’s written a bunch of books on manifestation and self-healing and affirmations, The Yoga of Jesus, which is really interesting how he connects the the yogic traditions and teachings to, you know, the teachings of Jesus in the Bible and it’s it’s so profound. So I’m like diving more into that work as I’m diving more into the actual Buddhist practices of, of enlightenment.
01:05:44:07 – 01:06:03:18
Nathan Crane
There’s a cool book called Modern that actually guide you through like what Buddha taught, you know, his followers how to become enlightened and, you know, kind of a step by step approach. So anyway, Autobiography of a Yogi, if you haven’t read it yet, I highly, highly recommend it. Yeah.
01:06:04:16 – 01:06:06:02
Jana Danielson
I’ll add it to my summer reading list.
01:06:06:06 – 01:06:32:07
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that’s a good one. But the point being is that what he taught people is and what he experienced himself and what he helped others with and what he learned from his teachers was, you can heal anything with the power of your mind, with the power of God, with connecting to the power of God and bringing that force into you and through the direct the direction of your mind and the power of God coming through to you.
01:06:32:07 – 01:06:54:09
Nathan Crane
You can heal anything and you know, and then you tell your story just by breathing. You basically healed yourself of all these issues, which was like the power of your mind connected, you know, with the wisdom of God guiding you through like the breath, like even in the Bible, right? Talks about the breath of, you know, in the beginning was the word and the word was God.
01:06:54:09 – 01:07:14:07
Nathan Crane
Well, where does the word come from? Where the word comes from the mind thinking the brain. But the word also comes from our breathing, comes from our lungs, you know, and breath is like a breath is essential to life. So anyway, we could dove deep down the rabbit hole, but very interesting stuff.
01:07:15:12 – 01:07:15:21
Jana Danielson
Yeah.
01:07:16:24 – 01:07:20:19
Nathan Crane
Yeah. All right. Where do you want to go next?
01:07:22:06 – 01:07:55:11
Jana Danielson
Well, where do you want to go? I mean, we can. Well, let’s just let’s just just touch on breath. One more. Let’s just loop back one more time. Did you know that the transverse abdominals, which is like the deepest set of abdominals, really is what the diaphragm trigger is in a way, or connects into when we’re breathing. And so I’m just trying to pull together like we, you know, we chatted about pelvic floor, we chatted about breath, we’ve chatted about, you know, shame.
01:07:55:11 – 01:08:19:02
Jana Danielson
And we’ve chatted about this concept that, you know, a physical ailment is not just that’s not just the silo, there’s all these other aspects to it. And so even even a saw as work that we did, you know, it was sometimes when you go for a massage, massage or you laid on your, you know, your fascia tools, whatever it is, think about or feel those emotions, right?
01:08:19:02 – 01:08:48:18
Jana Danielson
Like sometimes you can get very angry or all of a sudden there will be tears dripping down your face like that. Is that is, you know, proof that there is an emotionality to our muscles. And so when we become metabolically unhealthy and know movement is not something that we seek, but it’s something we have to do or, you know, dammit, look, I had to park so far away from the front, you know, from the front door of the grocery store.
01:08:48:18 – 01:09:08:24
Jana Danielson
Now I have to walk with my bags and and the power of the mind and how, you know, how do we shift the this is happening, you know, to me versus this is happening for me. And when you know, when you talked about the connection with the breath to God, that was exactly where I was because I was for many years asking God like, why me?
01:09:09:09 – 01:09:38:08
Jana Danielson
Why why is this happening to me versus this shift in my frequency once I understood that, you know, the breath of life was actually missing from me. And because we’re so good at, I think, pretending and trying to do right by others and show up as who you who they think you should be, we kind of lose ourself in that.
01:09:38:08 – 01:10:07:09
Jana Danielson
Right. And and that’s what I was I felt like I was a bit of an actress right when it was time to go into my workplace or time to interact, it was paced on the smile and away we go. And so the authenticity of who we are, even though it’s like growth and it can be messy and it can be uncomfortable, like the beautiful authenticity that is us is, you know, it’s like that seven layer Mexican dip, right?
01:10:07:09 – 01:10:27:08
Jana Danielson
You got to work through, you know, the refried beans and the cheese and the guacamole, you know, to get down to the bottom, to the rice and and that’s that’s what I that’s what I lived. And I’m sure many of your audience members are somewhere in those seven layers wondering which way is up.
01:10:27:17 – 01:10:31:16
Nathan Crane
You’re in the beans or you’re in the beans. Are you in the onion and the tomatoes where you’re.
01:10:31:16 – 01:10:34:20
Jana Danielson
Exactly where are you? Are you in the film? Yeah. You’re in the.
01:10:34:20 – 01:10:35:08
Nathan Crane
Cheese.
01:10:35:23 – 01:10:37:05
Jana Danielson
Yeah.
01:10:37:05 – 01:11:12:14
Nathan Crane
So this is the this is the passage I was singing about from the Bible as Genesis two seven. And the Lord God formed Man of the Dust of the Ground and breathed into his nostrils. The breath of life and man became a living soul. The breath of life, right like that is so powerful to think about, because as modern science, as ancient yogis and ancient, you know, TCM and ancient Qigong practitioners have known and have used breath for health and healing and spiritual evolution for literally thousands of years.
01:11:13:02 – 01:11:48:15
Nathan Crane
Modern science is catching up and realizing just how the power of breath really is essential at healing our bodies. And yet, if we go to the Bible, it’s right there as well, right? It’s like and breathe into his nostrils. The breath of life and man became a living soul. The breath of life, you know, so man and learning to use our breath and now breath works become really popular and really famous is kind of biohacking and things like that because there are a lot of ways that we can, you know, in people don’t give credit to where breath work came from.
01:11:48:15 – 01:12:11:06
Nathan Crane
It came from yoga. You know, yoga is not modern yoga that we know today, which is mostly an exercise class, is nothing like, you know, the yoga that has been taught for thousands of years, which the yogis have been taught 4000 years, is actually more a spiritual practice, a deep meditation practice, a practice of, you know, healing yourself, becoming enlightened, being and being closer to God.
01:12:11:13 – 01:12:43:15
Nathan Crane
You know, the physical side of it just came out of a way to keep the body healthy, right? So today you get like you go to a yoga class, you get like 5% spiritual, you know, a 95% physical exercise, which is good for you. I can’t I mean, yoga is great, right? But if you go to create yoga or you go to Raja yoga or these other yoga practices and traditions, the Breathwork, the meditation, the spiritual practice, the, you know, connection to God, that’s at the essence of what yoga really is.
01:12:43:15 – 01:12:55:20
Nathan Crane
It’s transformational. And there really are so many similarities between the teachings in the original yoga traditions and and what Jesus said and what the Bible says is very, very fascinating.
01:12:56:20 – 01:13:17:12
Jana Danielson
Well, and, you know, yoga is I mean, thousands of years old, place is like 200 years old. But Joseph Pilates kind of leaned in to a lot of the yogic concepts. Right. And so in his book, Return to Life, one of my favorite quotes from him is Breath is the first and the and the last act of life.
01:13:17:22 – 01:13:47:07
Jana Danielson
And somewhere in the middle it becomes dismiss that right. Like we don’t think about it like think about breath. When do you pay most attention to it? Maybe when you are meeting your newly born child for the first time and you’re just waiting for that first, you know, gasp and scream. Or maybe when you’re sitting with someone at the end of their life and there a breath and then there is an absence of breath, and then there’s a breath and then there’s an absence of breath.
01:13:47:13 – 01:14:16:23
Jana Danielson
We totally take it for granted right in between those moments where you’re just, you know, think of even the saying waiting on bated breath, like you’re just right. Like there’s we have even pieces of our language that bring the importance of breath into it. And so why you know, why do we what is it? I know. It’s just it’s an unconscious thing that happens to keep us living.
01:14:16:23 – 01:14:39:01
Jana Danielson
But we’re not human living. We’re human beings. So what if we took the concept of breath in? You know, sometimes it’s minutes a day and and, you know, connected to it because one of the things that I tell my clients all the time is in those moments where you feel those tornadoes of life are spinning around you and you feel like you are completely out of your control.
01:14:39:01 – 01:15:07:05
Jana Danielson
Right? You get a call from your kid. You you know, you’re having conversations with your spouse, whatever it is, something at work. The one thing we can rely on is that, you know, the feeling when you close your eyes and breathe in through your nose and feel that cool air hit the back of your throat being in that moment and then feeling on the exhale, the warm air, leaving your body like that is.
01:15:07:05 – 01:15:09:16
Jana Danielson
That is a spiritual moment, I feel.
01:15:10:02 – 01:15:34:11
Nathan Crane
Yeah, it really is. And it’s it’s self-control, it’s self-regulation. It’s, you know, taking control of our nervous system. It’s using, you know, the spiritual force that’s within all of us to really direct our own healing. It’s so simple but so powerful. So as we kind of wrap up here, I mean, you’ve got a lot of cool stuff going on.
01:15:34:17 – 01:15:44:20
Nathan Crane
You know, maybe talk a little bit about some of the new things doing and then also, you know, how people can get in touch with you at your website. Yeah, yeah. Just share a little bit more about that would be awesome. Yeah.
01:15:46:08 – 01:16:09:18
Jana Danielson
So I mean the cooch ball is and the ball for men so it’s co-branded. It is a product that I created. I feel out of a moment where I drew my line in the sand when I learned about Dr. Crawford’s research that 90% of pelvic floor dysfunction is fitness related, not medical related. That was so. Yeah, even if you had to.
01:16:09:18 – 01:16:24:06
Jana Danielson
Yeah. There Nathan or Blume. Better life on my new website. You can find the cooch ball there, but here’s the deal going is that when any muscle is void of blood flow.
01:16:25:07 – 01:16:26:17
Nathan Crane
Pulling better life.
01:16:27:09 – 01:16:27:17
Jana Danielson
Yeah.
01:16:28:01 – 01:16:38:22
Nathan Crane
Yeah. That’s my so my for whatever reason, my wife I if there’s like a redirect, my wife I for some reason restricts it. I can’t go to any redirect, you know.
01:16:39:14 – 01:16:40:21
Jana Danielson
Then go to Coach Bocom.
01:16:41:14 – 01:16:43:05
Nathan Crane
Coach Volcom.
01:16:43:21 – 01:16:44:04
Jana Danielson
Yeah.
01:16:44:15 – 01:16:55:11
Nathan Crane
Now it’s trying to redirect the bloom better than life. So if I got bloom better. Yeah, that’s weird. Yeah, this happens on my own websites, but it doesn’t happen to anybody else. So anyways, so the website better dot life.
01:16:55:11 – 01:17:19:13
Jana Danielson
Bloom better dot life, and there you’ll find the ball. So here’s the simplicity of the cooch ball as a pilot instructor that had an integrated health therapies clinic with pelvic floor physical therapy. What I wanted to do when I worked, you know, learned from Dr. Crawford was that when the pelvic floor does not have a healthy environment, there is a lack of oxygen, rich, nutrient rich blood flow to that area.
01:17:19:13 – 01:17:54:16
Jana Danielson
Those those muscles are not going to be healthy. They’re not going to be able to be functional. And so when you go for pelvic floor physical therapy, which men and women can both go women? It’s a vaginal experience. Men, it’s an anal experience. There’s only one way in, right? And so what I wanted to do was create something that I could use in my classes that would create an experience through simple diaphragmatic breathing and good seated posture that you could sit on the ball almost like a foam roller for the pelvic floor.
01:17:54:16 – 01:18:18:12
Jana Danielson
That’s essentially what it was. I tried to find it on the market and I couldn’t find something because by then I was very dialed into my nervous system. So everything I tried on the market either jacked up my sympathetic nervous system or there was like no really big impact rate. So I went out and there were days when I was calling, like Spalding and Wilson, like all these well-known sporting goods manufacturers.
01:18:18:12 – 01:18:41:06
Jana Danielson
I got laughed off the phone. I got hung up on. They’re like, You want to create a ball to do what so. I found a manufacturer created the cooch ball. The cool thing about the cooch ball is the system that comes with it. So the training videos take through how, in fact, to fill your ball, how to sit on your ball, how to breathe on your ball because breathing is key, right?
01:18:41:06 – 01:19:17:05
Jana Danielson
Breathing is our communication, our body and our brain. And when there is an absence of breath or when it’s erratic, your nervous system is going to trigger sympathetic. Right. It just it’s what it does. That’s what it can get mad at it because that’s what its job is. Right. So I created the coach and Gooch Ball to start to shift the pelvic floor conversation because once I learned that the prudential nerve meant an area of ashamed ness, it made so much sense to me why we don’t talk about it, or why we would rather just go to the grocery store and buy the pads and wear the pads than actually have have the conversation.
01:19:17:05 – 01:19:37:07
Jana Danielson
So I’ve been a champion for pelvic floor fitness from a movement Pilates for many, many years. And as I’ve evolved, I’ve now sold my clinic and my studio moved my family from Canada to Mexico. I wanted to be like, you know, we’ve had really deep roots here. We wanted to spread our wings and kind of strengthen that part of our lives.
01:19:38:19 – 01:20:05:04
Jana Danielson
I started to just realize that if I could create another product that would work in conjunction with the couch, but because the ball was missing, that revealed facial work in the feet, along the jaw, through the glutes, the pure form of Ms.. So the spitball was born and as things happen, you know how one idea kind of leads to another, almost like Hansel and Gretel with like, the breadcrumbs.
01:20:06:02 – 01:20:33:15
Jana Danielson
Then my paths cross with Dr. Nisha Winters. I don’t know if you know Nisha Nathan, but she’s like my neighbor in Mexico. She lives, like 20 minutes down the coast from me. Got to know her, spent some time with her, really dove into her world. She’s a naturopathic oncologist at 19 years old, had stage four ovarian cancer and has spent her life, her professional life just really diving into and position ing this idea of metabolic health and terrain.
01:20:33:15 – 01:20:52:03
Jana Danielson
Instead of treating, you know, instead of treating the cancer, let’s treat the environment the cancer is in. And then let’s see what happens. Right? And so I started reading and learning from her and I thought, hey, wait a minute, this concept of terrain is exactly what I do with the cooch ball. We use it for pelvic floor health, but we use it for gut health.
01:20:52:03 – 01:21:18:06
Jana Danielson
Working through the ascending transverse and descending colon. I work on low back pain and glute tightness so someone with sciatic pain can start to take control over it using the scooch ball for plantar fasciitis or for Achilles tendinitis. Right. I’ve helped people, you know, with with ear issues, just releasing tension through their TMJ. And I was like, ki wait, all this stuff that I’m doing is actually metabolic health.
01:21:18:06 – 01:21:44:20
Jana Danielson
It’s not just pelvic floor, it’s not just fascia. And so this concept of train fitness is something brand new that is part of my launch of My Bloom Better brand, literally like a month ago 29 days ago is a part of so the coach ball in this system of pelvic floor health with the scootch ball and terrain fitness really helps me connect with people and just reframe what fitness is.
01:21:44:23 – 01:22:07:02
Jana Danielson
It doesn’t matter if you are, you know, a CrossFit athlete or a marathon runner or a yogi or your Pilates enthusiasts. Are you love doing, you know, a dance class. We all still need a lift system that serves us good circulation faster. That’s not restricting blood flow. And so that’s what these two tools and this new concept of terrain fitness are really about.
01:22:07:12 – 01:22:29:05
Jana Danielson
And then I had the good fortune. You know, they say when the student is ready, the teacher appears. I got connected with a gentleman named Sean Wells, who is known very you know, very well in the supplement world. When I learned that 80% of supplements out there are truly not meeting label claims, I my blood kind of started boiling kind of like it did when I learned the whole truth about pelvic floor health.
01:22:29:05 – 01:22:51:09
Jana Danielson
And I was like, that’s not right. That’s just not right. Because you and I and millions of other people are buying. I mean, maybe not you and I are going to Costco to buy our but many millions people are going to Costco and the drugstore to buy their supplements. And it just isn’t right. And so working with Sean, I came up with a custom formulation that really is all about blood sugar management.
01:22:51:12 – 01:23:25:20
Jana Danielson
Through dihydrate BERBERINE, we’re using TETRAHEDRAL curcumin for inflammatory support and bloating. We’re using white chaste tree berry for hormone support and we’re using L ergo thiamin, which is a great antioxidant for mitochondrial health. And so I feel like, you know, once I had my third baby, I was like, okay, our family is complete with this new brand and being able to pull in the metabolic health through fitness and movement using the cooch ball in a scooch ball with, you know, high quality supplements.
01:23:25:20 – 01:23:44:19
Jana Danielson
Once we do have that beautiful garden that’s ready to flourish, I feel like my message and how I’m showing up in the world is exactly where I’m supposed to be right now. So bloom better life is where you can go to check out what I’m up to or Jana Danielson on Instagram and TikTok.
01:23:45:20 – 01:24:03:19
Nathan Crane
Beautiful on that on the 80% of you said 8% as you found out, 8% of labels, supplements, supplements, claims on labels were not accurate. Like where did you get that statistic from, do you know?
01:24:03:22 – 01:24:28:02
Jana Danielson
So yes, I do. I was listening to a podcast that Shawn was on with a gentleman named Let Me Find It. Let me see if I can quickly find it. They bought a whole bunch of he was talking on this podcast. They bought a whole bunch of brands off of Amazon and sent them for third party testing. And only 80 only 20% came back.
01:24:28:02 – 01:24:37:20
Jana Danielson
Meeting label claims. They’re like a supplement watchdog group. Do you know what they’re.
01:24:37:20 – 01:24:39:01
Nathan Crane
Well, they’re Mike Adams group.
01:24:40:14 – 01:24:44:07
Jana Danielson
What is the brand called?
01:24:44:07 – 01:24:50:11
Nathan Crane
I mean, I know he Tesla supplements for heavy metals and things like that. Let’s see.
01:24:50:22 – 01:24:52:23
Jana Danielson
How it is.
01:24:54:21 – 01:24:57:13
Nathan Crane
His things called the health ranger. But I.
01:24:57:13 – 01:24:58:04
Jana Danielson
Don’t know.
01:24:58:10 – 01:25:01:04
Nathan Crane
What his lab is called clean label project.
01:25:01:09 – 01:25:15:09
Jana Danielson
So you know let me look keep looking. Well, I can just.
01:25:15:24 – 01:25:49:16
Nathan Crane
Yeah. I’m curious where the claim I found I found I mean, because I never heard that percentage before. So I found this article but it sounds like it’s different was like whereas the New York attorney general in 2015 they were testing some specific herbal supplements, Walmart, Target, GNC and Walgreens and they found that same percentage. They said almost 80% of the pills officials tested did not contain the key plant ingredients listed on the label and included fillers like rice and beans and additional ingredients such as wheat, mustard or radish.
01:25:50:07 – 01:26:13:13
Nathan Crane
So they had more of these filler ingredients, but but some of that not some of the plants that were actually listed on the label. And that’s it. Like this was the actual they sent cease and desist letters. These were their store brand. They told to stop selling some of their store brand herbal supplements. So that was they included Ginseng, St John’s, where Echinacea and ginkgo biloba.
01:26:13:23 – 01:26:37:14
Nathan Crane
These were like the GNC brand as well. It sounds like, you know, in some of the store brands from Walmart, Target, GNC, Walgreens, which is pretty crazy, is this is the first time I’ve seen this. Now, does that mean also does this mean all supplements have 80% that are not? No Of course not. This was no specific herbal supplements that they tested, you know, at these stores back in 2015.
01:26:37:14 – 01:27:06:14
Nathan Crane
But that’s why I’m curious about the 80% that you referenced, because that’s interesting to know. It’s one of the reasons I created plant powered protein, which we were talking about offline. The new supplement through my company, the plant powered athlete. Right, is because I saw such a need in the protein space. I mean, so many proteins that are out there today are just filled honestly, like are filled with stuff that I would never want to put in my body.
01:27:06:14 – 01:27:36:18
Nathan Crane
Let’s just put it that way. I mean, ingredients that are that that have studies behind them that are toxic, that cause cell damage, they disrupt the gut. And, you know, those are things that’s like why why do you have to damage your health just to get the protein that your body needs? So I wanted to, you know, reluctantly go into the protein space and create a protein reluctantly because like, it’s something I’ve been wanting to do and work with athletes for a couple of years, but have just reluctantly gone into that space and done it.
01:27:36:18 – 01:27:57:15
Nathan Crane
One, I’ve never created a supplement before, but to I, you know, have been so focused on education, was helping people with cancer, chronic disease for so long. I’m like entering into the even though I’m an athlete and I love what I do, it’s like entering into that space was just kind of like, well, maybe, you know, am I the right person to do it and all that, even though I had this passion for it?
01:27:57:15 – 01:28:22:05
Nathan Crane
And so I dove in and finally did. And I’m glad I did. I’m so happy and proud of this protein powder because it it is clean, it’s organic. It’s not fillers, pesticides and herbicides and chemicals and tons of processed sugar and fillers and additives and stuff that so many of these products have nowadays. They get they often get such cheap bulk ingredients, fill it with a bunch of stuff that honestly, I don’t think your body needs.
01:28:22:11 – 01:28:43:11
Nathan Crane
And then they make a ton of profit off of it. Like our ingredients are expensive, our profit is low, but we wanted to create something that was really effective, that actually had scientific studies behind the ingredients to enhance energy, to enhance recovery, to enhance athletic performance, and not with all the other potentially damaging ingredients that are in a lot of these products today.
01:28:43:11 – 01:29:06:12
Nathan Crane
So super proud of what we created. And I know that’s what you went to town on, creating your supplements as well as creating something that you could be proud of that actually have, you know, like, like the, like the adaptogens and our protein. We actually have the quantities of milligrams that are in them that show in the studies where they got benefits from them versus like just putting them in there to throw on the label.
01:29:06:12 – 01:29:22:09
Nathan Crane
Like a lot of these, it companies do, they’ll just throw like 30 or 50 ingredients in there. Yeah, we got all this good stuff in here. And if you actually looked at the milligrams and you knew what they were because you take the total amount and then try and divide it by how many of those ingredients are actually in there.
01:29:22:09 – 01:29:44:19
Nathan Crane
You’re like, this is worthless. Why would you even put, you know, 25 milligrams of something in your body that, you know, the benefits don’t even have it even shown in studies to start until it’s at 200 milligrams, for example. So that’s why, you know, that’s why I formulated this with all of that in mind. And I know talking with you offline, that’s why why you worked with someone to help you formulate your products as well.
01:29:45:15 – 01:30:03:17
Jana Danielson
Totally. And I just have to I mean, I did say this before we hit record that Nathan so graciously sent me a bag of his protein. And it is like it passes the Jana Danielson test. So thank you for that. I am a a big fan. You did a great job.
01:30:04:10 – 01:30:08:02
Nathan Crane
That’s awesome. Thank you for that. What do you what do you what do you like about it so far?
01:30:09:08 – 01:30:31:24
Jana Danielson
So what I what I love is how first of all, how well it blends. Like, for me, I have a I have a palate that is like if something doesn’t feel good in my mouth, it doesn’t matter how good it tastes. It’s like I’m out. So I like I before I blended it with some just unsweetened coconut milk.
01:30:31:24 – 01:30:36:20
Jana Danielson
I, he, I put two scoops. Should I put two scoops?
01:30:36:20 – 01:31:06:08
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Two scoops is a serving size. It’s 26 grams of protein. And that’s that’s five sources of plant based protein, specifically that creates 211 kind of ideal branched chain amino acid profile. Yeah. Which just means like that’s the most study. That’s the most research we have on brands saying amino acids in their in their proportions that have shown to actually help muscle protein synthesis, muscle recovery, muscle strength, all of that.
01:31:06:16 – 01:31:09:13
Nathan Crane
So two scoops is the correct serving. So you did it right.
01:31:10:02 – 01:31:28:05
Jana Danielson
Okay. So yeah, I mean, for me it was the texture, how it blended with my avocado and my arugula and I put some vanilla in there with some ice cubes and then it just it just tastes really good. Like there’s nothing worse than being like, I’m going to plug my nose and chug this because I know that this is good for me.
01:31:28:05 – 01:31:31:10
Jana Danielson
Like, this was very tasty.
01:31:32:03 – 01:31:38:19
Nathan Crane
That’s awesome. I love to hear that and I thank you for sharing that. Did you find that 80% where that came from?
01:31:39:00 – 01:31:41:19
Jana Danielson
You know what? Can I can I send it to you and I’ll put it in the show notes?
01:31:41:24 – 01:31:58:11
Nathan Crane
Yeah, yeah. Let’s do it now. It’s because I’m curious, too. I Want to actually see it and review it and research it because that’s really that’s crazy if that’s true. I mean, that’s insane, right? That up to 80% of the products tested that they bought from Amazon were these all different kinds of supplements.
01:31:59:10 – 01:32:00:20
Jana Danielson
Are not eating label claims.
01:32:01:01 – 01:32:05:10
Nathan Crane
Or not any label claims like and they were just all different kinds of supplements from different companies.
01:32:06:07 – 01:32:23:04
Jana Danielson
Yeah. Wow. And I mean, I mean, Amazon has become a trusted source, right? And a plus. It’s just so damn easy to place an order in the next day. It’s on your doorstep. So. And not all of us do our due diligence. Right? Or we see, you know, we might see it on on our Instagram feed and just trust.
01:32:23:07 – 01:32:37:20
Jana Danielson
So like you with your protein, you know, going that extra mile so that if someone once they do become, you know, the brand’s become a trusted, trusted brand, people can sleep well at night knowing that they’re putting good stuff in their body.
01:32:38:05 – 01:32:49:23
Nathan Crane
Exactly. So your website people and get your supplements you’re cool about good basketball. All the balls, all the blue balls, all the blue balls. By the way.
01:32:50:08 – 01:32:54:06
Jana Danielson
I love all the blue ball for you. Blue balls that’s something I’ve had a few.
01:32:54:15 – 01:32:55:02
Nathan Crane
You know.
01:32:55:16 – 01:33:12:14
Jana Danielson
I had one of my my one of my yeah one of my guy clients was like, okay, this might be too much information, but just got to tell you, he’s like, I wake up as the 16 year old version of myself every morning now, and I just like he’s like, my wife just loves it. So it is. Do you know it?
01:33:12:14 – 01:33:24:21
Jana Danielson
Like, it’s just so simple. And that’s how I want to make my mark in this world is just helping people live their days to, their absolute most joyful potential.
01:33:25:08 – 01:33:42:24
Nathan Crane
That’s beautiful whether you’re doing it and you’re doing it. So thank you for what you do. And I love this conversation with you is a lot of fun and and enlightening. And I think everybody tuning in still this far, maybe maybe a little bit more. And, you know, all of us little, little more percent enlightened in our lives.
01:33:42:24 – 01:33:47:19
Nathan Crane
So that’s always a good thing. So blue and better life as your website bloom better.
01:33:47:24 – 01:33:48:05
Jana Danielson
Dot.
01:33:48:22 – 01:33:57:18
Nathan Crane
If you go over there folks check it out. Jana, thanks so much. Yeah, great. Great chat. Appreciate you coming on the podcast.
01:33:58:08 – 01:33:59:05
Jana Danielson
Sounds good. Bye bye.