In today’s video, we sit down with Tom McCarthy Tom is a father of two, husband of 31 years, CEO or Board Member of 8 companies, early-stage investor in over 40 companies and worldwide philanthropist. After a successful career with a Wall Street firm and as the Head of Sales and Marketing for Tony Robbins Company, Tom found his true passion in the field of helping people in business, athletics and life, break through their limitations and step into their full potential. Tom has been the peak performance coach for athletes who have won World Championships and Olympic Gold Medals.
In the corporate world, Tom’s clients include Cisco Systems, Microsoft, Wells Fargo, Salesforce, Zoom, Met Life and many others. He has also helped several CEO’s and Executive Teams realize their dream of taking their companies public. Tom has been called the one World’s Top High Stakes Performance Coaches and he has been selected by Forbes as an expert and thought leader in the areas of leadership, communication, and peak performance for their Knowledge Innovation Center. He is also a member of the prestigious Transformational Leadership Council, which consists of 100 of the world’s top authors and thought leaders.
Tom’s book The Breakthrough Code has quickly become an international bestseller and has changed the lives of thousands of people around the world. When the stakes are high, Tom is the coach that the world’s leading companies and peak performers call on to help them win!
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00:00:37:19 – 00:00:48:18
Nathan Crane
Hello and welcome. Everybody is super excited to have you here on this episode with my good friend Tom McCarthy. Tom, welcome to the podcast.
00:00:49:05 – 00:00:50:07
Tom McCarthy
Good to see you, Nathan.
00:00:51:00 – 00:01:20:10
Nathan Crane
Tom So you have a really fascinating life and I’m excited to kind of dig into that with you and, and, you know, your approach to business, to life, to motivation, to health, to leadership. You work with a lot of top Fortune 500 companies, right? You do consulting, but you also spent quite a bit of time working with Tony Robbins and helping him build his companies back in the day.
00:01:20:10 – 00:01:21:21
Nathan Crane
Right. Can you talk a little bit about that?
00:01:22:16 – 00:01:49:07
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. So, you know, my my childhood was not the most idyllic, you know, similar to yours and many other people. My dad was killed Vietnam, when I was three, still remember looking out the window, seeing the taxicab and the army officer get out, I thought was my dad coming home. And he came to the front doorstep. My mom made sure that me and my younger brother’s had a two year old and six month old stayed in the room.
00:01:49:15 – 00:02:12:03
Tom McCarthy
She knew what was up and they came to tell her that her husband was killed in Vietnam the day before my dad. So we had a tough childhood. You know, we didn’t have a lot of money. We got by on a little government pension. But it was a struggle. But beyond that, there’s tons of fear and grief and sadness and anxiety that was in the house.
00:02:12:03 – 00:02:41:15
Tom McCarthy
And so I grew up really searching. And I remember reading books like some people may not you you probably may not remember these or may not normal, but books by Wayne Dyer called Sons. I remember reading a book called Illusions, which is the book that came after Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bock. And I really was searching for, you know, how to figure life out, right?
00:02:41:15 – 00:03:03:10
Tom McCarthy
Because it wasn’t working for me. I felt like I kind of got the the, you know, the short stick. You know, I didn’t have a dad. My mom never remarried. We struggled. I felt like I had to step up as a young guy. So I was always looking and searching and and I struggle. But, you know, things worked out and, you know, I got good grades.
00:03:03:10 – 00:03:21:21
Tom McCarthy
I went to college. I was an athlete, but I was always searching and learning and trying to figure things out. I got a job with the Wall Street firm after college. I was doing well in that, but I wasn’t. I wasn’t satisfied. I was pretty unfulfilled. So one morning I was thinking about what do what do I really want to do?
00:03:21:21 – 00:03:43:20
Tom McCarthy
And I thought maybe I’d get back into sports. And I interviewed with some sports agencies, you know, this is before Jerry Maguire, but I wanted to be the Jerry Maguire, you know, the good guy in the sports agencies. And so I was going along that path, but I decided I didn’t want to do that, but I needed to do something different than just be in the financial world.
00:03:43:20 – 00:04:05:17
Tom McCarthy
And so one morning I was watching TV and it was one of the morning shows. I don’t know why I was even watching it, because I usually did. And this guy, Tony Robbins, comes on. I’m like, Guy, this guy’s interesting. He’s talking about like, you can choose how you feel. You have unlimited power. That was his new book that had just came out and I said, I had read this guy’s book.
00:04:05:17 – 00:04:21:19
Tom McCarthy
You know, he’s a little bit older than me, but I can learn from him. And I read his book and I don’t know, a day or two, this is a long time ago. And then I called up and I said, you know, when’s his next program? And I was on the East Coast. He was next target was the West Coast that weekend.
00:04:21:19 – 00:04:30:13
Tom McCarthy
Like, you know, like four days later I go, I signed me up. How old were you? I was 25 or 26 or something like that.
00:04:30:13 – 00:04:32:11
Nathan Crane
Yes. So pretty young. Yeah.
00:04:32:22 – 00:04:57:21
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, pretty young. And but, you know, I’d always been a learner researcher. And so I flew out to Los Angeles and I showed up out here, and I live in California. But for four back then it was like, All right, people are a little strange out in California. And sure enough, I show up for this event where you’re going to walk on fire with them and, you know, change your mindset.
00:04:57:21 – 00:05:19:10
Tom McCarthy
And I walk in and people are dancing and I’m like, Oh my God, what the heck am I getting myself into? And I remember actually one of the exercises my partner, you had to mirror and match what they did, right. So they were going to is an exercise like get out of your comfort zone. They’re going to dance and do funny faces and things like that.
00:05:19:10 – 00:05:42:15
Tom McCarthy
And who’s my partner? But, you know, an actor who is who’s the star of Roots, which was a big docu series or not a big mini series back then. His name is LeVar Burton. He’s he was some of the Star Trek movies and things like that. And this guy’s just going nuts. And I’m like this little, you know, shy, not get out of my comfort zone guy.
00:05:42:15 – 00:06:13:00
Tom McCarthy
And I’m matching and I’m like, What am I doing? But by the end of it, I was just like, Hey, I love this, right? And so I signed up for a 14 day neuro linguistic programing certification, come back home. I told my mom, my friends, about they’re like, What in the heck is going on here? Remember my best friend when I actually not when I went to that certification, but after the certification I decided to leave my job, literally give away my practice that I built.
00:06:13:00 – 00:06:34:11
Tom McCarthy
And I was pretty successful even though I was young and I was going to come out and head up sales and marketing for Tony Robbins. And when I was leaving, I, I went through Washington, DC, where my best friend was living and working. And I remember him crying when I left because he thought I was joining like some cult or I had hit my head on a curb.
00:06:34:11 – 00:06:57:13
Tom McCarthy
He was like, People are really concerned about me leaving this stable, you know, clientele I built up. But I came out here and it was amazing. And I spent three years running sales and marketing for him. I met my wife, who, you know, Stacy at his house at a Super Bowl party. He was in my wedding. He’s still a good friend today and just a great person.
00:06:57:13 – 00:07:18:11
Tom McCarthy
But yeah, it was an amazing experience. I really learned that you choose how you feel. You have a choice in it. It doesn’t matter if things are not going your way, you have a choice in it and it really kind of set me on the path that I’ve been on now for the past 30 some years. Yeah, that’s that’s fascinating.
00:07:18:11 – 00:08:00:05
Nathan Crane
So I want to take a step back a little bit, and then I want to dig deep into kind of your mindset around that. And then how, you know, in those challenging situations in life and then also those kind of under certain situations in life and in business where often because of the unknown, because of the people around you and they’re afraid and they’re unknown, and people kind of settle right for for what they’re doing versus going into the unknown, where their heart, their intuition, their inner wisdom is guiding them and they don’t listen to that because of the fear, you know, the what may happen, the fear of judgment, all these kinds of things.
00:08:00:05 – 00:08:17:00
Nathan Crane
So I want to get into how you overcame that and then what came from that. But but I to take a step back into your childhood, you said you had a challenging life, childhood, I mean, without a father. Your father passed away. Single mother. You had a brother, right?
00:08:17:07 – 00:08:27:02
Tom McCarthy
Two brothers? Yeah, it was when I met my mom and my dad died. I was three and a two year old brother and I had a little six month old brother that never even got to meet my dad.
00:08:27:24 – 00:08:34:06
Nathan Crane
So what was what were some of the biggest challenges you went through as a kid?
00:08:34:06 – 00:08:58:00
Tom McCarthy
I think that, you know, a lot of the challenges were just around, you know, fear. When you have something happen that really shakes you up when you’re young, you know, trauma. I mean, that’s and that was a trauma with a big T losing someone like that very early. You really question life. You know, you you don’t necessarily believe that it’s going to work out well for you.
00:08:58:00 – 00:09:11:00
Tom McCarthy
And I think that’s that was probably my belief system like I was worried about, you know, what next most pretty much every day like my mom and leave like is she going to come back, Right. Are we going to be healthy? Is everybody going to be okay?
00:09:11:17 – 00:09:21:00
Nathan Crane
That concept of constant fear that because something so traumatic had happened, that, well, more things like that are likely to happen?
00:09:21:16 – 00:09:30:19
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, You spend a lot of time in your parasympathetic nervous system when when especially when things happen that early in your life. Now, listen, I’m not saying.
00:09:30:19 – 00:09:33:01
Nathan Crane
You mean that you’re talking about sympathetic, right?
00:09:33:01 – 00:09:57:21
Tom McCarthy
Fight or flight. Yeah, sympathetic not parasympathetic. And you’re not able to get into your parasympathetic. So, you know, because you don’t know. You don’t know how to do that. And, you know, so I spent a lot of time in my sympathetic nervous system, you know, really in fear, looking for the next dangerous thing that’s going to happen. And I’m still able you know, I got good grades.
00:09:57:21 – 00:10:21:12
Tom McCarthy
I accomplished a lot, but I did it mostly through fear. It was fear based like not wanting to not do good. You know, I was very perfectionist. And all these things really aren’t that good for you as you grow up. You know, when you’re a perfectionist and you’re fear based, you tend to attract more chronic illnesses. Your immune system is is always stressed out.
00:10:21:12 – 00:10:27:16
Tom McCarthy
You know, it’s hard to accomplish great things long term when you’re fighting a tiger every day. And I think that’s what I was doing when I was young.
00:10:28:09 – 00:11:06:11
Nathan Crane
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, and that’s so many young people today. And so many people, even fifties and sixties and seventies, who have the unresolved trauma from childhood that’s still driving that sympathetic nervous system. Response of fear, anxiety, judgment, self-doubt. Right. All these things that we know inhibit the immune system. And, you know, the work I do around cancer, working with cancer patients and have been for over a decade now, this is a big thing that we focus on with people’s chronic disease, is how to heal from these traumatic experiences and help to regulate our nervous system so our bodies can can heal itself.
00:11:06:18 – 00:11:20:19
Nathan Crane
So what were what do you think was a big turning point for you in being able to do that? Was it starting to dive into like Wayne Dyer and Tony Robbins in personal development work? Is that kind of what you think was a big turning point?
00:11:20:19 – 00:11:44:19
Tom McCarthy
You know, it’s interesting. So when I look back, my mom, even though we were in a pretty traditional religion back then, you know, I was raised a Catholic and I went to Catholic school first grade through ninth. You know, I was the good little Catholic, you know, guy that would go to church every Sunday, because if you didn’t, you know, you go to hell.
00:11:45:09 – 00:11:47:06
Tom McCarthy
I don’t believe that anymore, obviously.
00:11:47:15 – 00:11:56:21
Nathan Crane
But so you were actually good, like you were the one that didn’t get in trouble because you were afraid of get it because you were afraid of the reaction.
00:11:56:22 – 00:11:58:19
Tom McCarthy
Was I was a big rule follower.
00:11:58:20 – 00:12:00:19
Nathan Crane
I so we were we were different.
00:12:00:19 – 00:12:01:02
Tom McCarthy
Than your.
00:12:01:02 – 00:12:03:21
Nathan Crane
Child. You were opposite in that regard.
00:12:04:03 – 00:12:06:16
Tom McCarthy
There was never a rule you in your mother.
00:12:06:19 – 00:12:33:17
Nathan Crane
And that was it. For me. It was like the opposite extreme right, same thing. Challenged childhoods, you know, traumatic experiences, all of that. But instead of the, you know, anytime there was a authority in said, okay, I better do this because something bad may happen, it’s like the opposite reaction happened. No, I can’t stand authority. So I’m going to act out and that’s very often, you know, I see that in young people.
00:12:33:17 – 00:12:38:02
Nathan Crane
It’s one or the other, often extreme, you know, which neither is really that healthy.
00:12:38:13 – 00:12:56:16
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, You know, I was I was in a military environment. We still live right next to Fort Bragg, North Carolina. You kind of had a fear of people’s parents. I mean, you grew up saying, you know, yes, ma’am, no ma’am, yes or no, sir. You know, even even if you’re at someone else’s house and you acted up, you’d get smacked.
00:12:56:16 – 00:13:16:21
Tom McCarthy
Right? These are all military guys that are gone to come back. And they’re great people, like amazing people, but, you know, very disciplined. And also, I think for me and I was probably a little bit more disciplined than my brothers, but I was the oldest, right? I felt like I had to be the man around the house. I mean, I kind of felt like I had to take care of my mom.
00:13:16:21 – 00:13:57:00
Tom McCarthy
Even even though I was very young, I had businesses growing up. I felt like I had to be a leader. I had a lot of empathy for other human beings because I felt so much fear and hurt and anxiety. But my mom also. So anyways, I brought up that fact that, you know, we were in a kind of raising the traditional lives and I went to Catholic school, but my mom also was exploring more nontraditional religion, like she you know, there’s a church called Unity Church that really draws from many religions, but it’s really about, you know, truth and and finding the truth in all things and more spiritual based.
00:13:57:11 – 00:14:20:16
Nathan Crane
Yeah, I really I really enjoy the unity churches. I’ve been to a few in San Diego and Santa Fe where it’s nondenominational, but there is a belief in God and a higher power. Yes, very welcoming of all religious beliefs. And there’s and there’s a very kind of, you know, religious slash spiritual feel and vibration to the crowd into the to the service right there singing.
00:14:20:16 – 00:14:38:10
Nathan Crane
And there’s there may be some prayer, some meditation there. The difference is, is that it’s not well, if you don’t do what this book says you do, you’re going to hell. It’s very much, no, let’s let’s learn to be be the best versions of ourselves we can and come from a place of love and compassion. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:14:38:18 – 00:14:39:02
Tom McCarthy
Yeah.
00:14:39:06 – 00:14:41:08
Nathan Crane
And accept all human beings.
00:14:41:22 – 00:15:06:12
Tom McCarthy
And they teach you that you’re a creator, though they don’t teach you that. You have to beg God to do things in your life. They teach you that, you know, their prayers should be more a thanking, you know, for something already being there, even when it’s not physically there. You know. So and a lot of the things that I started to learn were, you know, reading books, my mom would have, you know, like a guy, Edgar Casey or different books.
00:15:06:12 – 00:15:31:08
Tom McCarthy
I don’t know if I got erroneous zones. I can’t remember if that was one she had bought or I went out and bought that at some point in time. I remember reading. I remember I remember reading allusions in high school and it scared the hell out of me. When I first read a book, I was like, Oh my God, Like, this is pretty scary because, you know, it was kind of a the Messiah that that gets tired of like healing everyone.
00:15:31:08 – 00:15:51:00
Tom McCarthy
And it because they can, they can heal themselves. And so he’s barnstorming around in this plane and he meets this person and he kind of mentors this person. But at the end, it’s almost the Christ story. Right at the end, he’s he’s he dies, you know, he gets shot. And I’m thinking, what if I lose power? Like, why do you die?
00:15:51:00 – 00:16:22:21
Tom McCarthy
Like, you know, And, you know, because back then I was so addicted to, you know, just being a physical, being not really understanding that we’re spiritual beings, having a physical experience. And, you know, but I mean, I started to learn through the years and a lot of my work now is based on this, that while it’s good to be in your body right, and have a healthy body, you know, and one foot in the physical, where you really can start to create miracles and and do amazing things is when you also have one foot in the nonphysical, one foot the spiritual, where there are no limits.
00:16:22:21 – 00:16:41:04
Tom McCarthy
Because in our physical world, if we just are dictated by that, there are limits, there are physical limits, there’s laws and things like that. But in the nonphysical where, you know, ultimately when we’re not in our body, we go to we have virtually you know, we have no limits, right? We are the creator. We are a creator. We are created by the creator.
00:16:41:04 – 00:16:42:14
Tom McCarthy
We are creators.
00:16:43:14 – 00:17:13:08
Nathan Crane
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00:17:13:08 – 00:17:38:20
Nathan Crane
I’m just giving to you for free. You can go download it at becoming cancer free dot com. All right, let’s get back to the show. And it’s a it’s a massive mental shift to go from I, I can create my reality to how I am dictated by this reality. Right. And it goes from being an empowered creator to being a victim.
00:17:38:20 – 00:17:56:23
Nathan Crane
And it literally is a mindset shift. It’s a belief difference. And, you know, I was a victim growing up as a kid. All right. So you are a victim. Yeah. You know, and you live and we live the victim lifestyle and it’s like, well, yeah, you might survive that. You might get past that. You might even do okay in that regard.
00:17:56:23 – 00:18:20:20
Nathan Crane
But later on, it’s going to catch up if you don’t overcome the victim mindset and later on in life, it’s going to impact you in such a negative way versus looking at everything through the lens of, you know, what this reality I’m in right now, I don’t like it, so let me do something about it. You know, let me take action to figure out how to transform this, to transcend it, to heal it, whatever it is, you know?
00:18:21:03 – 00:18:41:04
Nathan Crane
Yeah, there’s a disease, for example, where we work with a lot of people who the big part is shifting the mindset from from being a victim of cancer to, you know what? I am going to learn everything I possibly can from this and look at cancer as a lesson to awaken me to my highest potential of health and life and vitality.
00:18:41:04 – 00:19:07:08
Nathan Crane
And these are very often the people who do not only stop the cancer progression, but in some cases completely reverse cancer using a holistic approach. And so we know the power of belief is incredible. And you you know, you discover this at an early age, I discovered at a really early age also also Wayne Dyer was was one of my very first spiritual teachers in terms of like the material that I was listening to.
00:19:07:17 – 00:19:28:06
Nathan Crane
I think I was 20 the first. Like I’ve had a couple of spiritual teachers early on, like in person. And then I found Wayne Dyer, I think when I was 20 or 21, and I remember listening to his audio CDs driving from like Montana to California, and I would I would buy his programs and just like listen to him over and over again.
00:19:28:06 – 00:19:44:07
Nathan Crane
And I was so, you know, it was just it was so empowering to listen to these concepts of oneness and unity and being a creator and shifting our beliefs and mindset. And it really helps you get out of the victim mentality.
00:19:44:07 – 00:20:01:17
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. When it’s hard for most people because all they’re looking at is the physical reality. I have a I wrote a book called The Breakthrough Code, and one of the things that I talk about in there is that average conforms to reality. The average person is just going to say, All right, what? You know what? What’s happening to me?
00:20:02:08 – 00:20:22:04
Tom McCarthy
No. If it’s an illness, they’ll go to the Internet. And you’re right. What can I expect to happen? What happens for most people? How to most people treat it and they’re just conforming right. They’re just fitting in. And you’re right, it’s a little bit of a victim mentality, but so I say average conforms to reality. Greatness creates a whole new reality.
00:20:22:14 – 00:20:37:05
Tom McCarthy
You know, look, if if if something happens to me, I have chronic fatigue. Back in 2015, Here’s what I did. I did not go because somebody even told me, oh, yeah, you know, a lot of people have it the rest of your life. I’m not. Screw that, right? This sucks, man. I’m not going to have this the rest of my life.
00:20:37:07 – 00:20:55:23
Tom McCarthy
Right? And and I went and I found, you know, who had it and got over it really quick. And that’s who I want is I want to know what they did and, you know, found a guy and did what he did and got over it quick. So but that’s creating a new round. And it takes courage to do that because it’s so easy to fit in.
00:20:55:23 – 00:21:25:00
Tom McCarthy
It’s so easy to do what everyone else is doing, to have the belief system everyone else has and you get sucked into it. But everything is created twice, including even the cancer, the diseases like, you know, it’s created a lot, you know, in our belief system and and it’s in a cancer or for me chronic fatigue was an amazing teacher or it was like the best lesson.
00:21:25:00 – 00:21:58:01
Tom McCarthy
It’s frickin sucks right? But it was happening for me. It wasn’t happening to me. I learned so much from that. I learned about energy healing. I learned, you know, ironically, I learned to be an energy healer. I, I learned so much about nutrition and even more about mindset. I thought I knew a ton. I learned more about how to go in and dig out the disempowering beliefs and traumas and free myself of those, because that’s part of why Chronic Fatigue showed up.
00:21:58:07 – 00:22:23:16
Tom McCarthy
I had a virus that that was a precursor to it, but it wasn’t the virus that created the chronic fatigue. My immune system was shot because I had been stressed out. I learned more about sleep. I was traveling the world, speaking. I wasn’t sleeping enough. I was on different time zones. I was go, go, go, go, go. I had disempowering, you know, belief systems, traumas, stresses that were still acting on me for years and years and years.
00:22:24:08 – 00:22:37:04
Tom McCarthy
If I would have not had chronic fatigue, I’d still have that crap in me, right? So it helped me kind of cleanse and start to be free of that and now create even more in my life being even better Creator.
00:22:38:12 – 00:22:44:07
Nathan Crane
So when did you so did you learn about qigong and energy healing because of chronic fatigue?
00:22:45:04 – 00:22:56:07
Tom McCarthy
I actually knew about that before and was practicing, but kind of intermittently and when I had chronic fatigue, that was something that I really committed even stronger to. And when?
00:22:56:07 – 00:22:59:23
Nathan Crane
When was that? When did you when were you dealing with that chronic fatigue?
00:22:59:23 – 00:23:15:19
Tom McCarthy
It was back in 2015. It had some things going on, right? My son was getting right. My youngest was getting ready to go off to college. And, you know, I know that I mean, I’m so close to my kids and my wife was like, that’s fine, right? You know, she’s calm and I’m like.
00:23:16:14 – 00:23:20:07
Nathan Crane
She’s a master yoga practitioner. So she’s been. Yes, she’s been doing this.
00:23:22:01 – 00:23:40:18
Tom McCarthy
But she’s naturally more calm and and yeah, I was I’m you know, I was I was I was definitely an empath, you know, And I’ve worked on that, you know, because I would take on people’s stuff and, you know, and super sensitive. But I always been really sensitive. But I had to learn.
00:23:40:18 – 00:23:43:17
Nathan Crane
It, really. You’re real sensitive, guys. I’m your $0.02.
00:23:43:17 – 00:23:54:04
Tom McCarthy
I actually am. Yeah. I’m the guy that on the plane, you know, watches a movie and he’s crying in the flight attendant comes up and said, you know, you need to drink and I’m trying to wipe my tears out. Right.
00:23:54:06 – 00:24:15:21
Nathan Crane
But well, what’s funny is you don’t you don’t when when when someone meets you, you don’t come across as like a really sensitive guy. You come across as a happy, you know, caring guy. But I wouldn’t say like super sensitive. You have more of like a a midwestern football kind of strong type of energy. Right? Military family, right?
00:24:16:13 – 00:24:39:01
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. And I had to you know, that’s part of what we’re taught is like, you know, don’t cry, don’t show weakness. Right. And it’s it’s a shame like, you know, like the ability to let emotions pass through you is a beautiful gift. And I actually was just talking with a friend of mine. Yes. Today who I need to connect you with.
00:24:39:21 – 00:25:08:24
Tom McCarthy
But he’s an amazing guy. And he he he was a social worker. So he’s a doctor, but he was a social worker in the Middle East where people are having, you know, going through all sorts of traumas, you know, bombs going off, people getting shot. He would start to notice. He started to notice something. He said, you know, after people would go through that trauma, he would start to see some of the adults and they would, you know, tremor a little bit.
00:25:09:00 – 00:25:12:12
Tom McCarthy
And then they would, you know, buck up like, be strong, don’t show weakness.
00:25:12:12 – 00:25:13:14
Nathan Crane
Oh, you’re talking about David?
00:25:14:00 – 00:25:36:17
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, the children. Yeah, we were talking to you about him yesterday, but the children would like, you know, just shake and they would shake for maybe a minute and then they would be able to walk off. But that shaking was, was letting that emotion, that trauma pass through them, Not like holding on to it in nature when an animal’s afraid or is something happens like, you know, they shake it off and they move on.
00:25:36:17 – 00:26:04:12
Tom McCarthy
They don’t hold on to the stuff we hold on to. And so for me, yeah, I had this exterior. That’s the thing. Like I was successful by most people’s standards, even when I was scared shitless inside because I could put on that front and go through it. I was a football player, right? And I remember like being a sophomore in high school, which was the first year you went to high school where I grew up in North Carolina.
00:26:04:12 – 00:26:24:01
Tom McCarthy
And and, you know, going up against the senior, that was like the big bad ass senior everyone was afraid of. I was afraid of them. And you you’re doing this drill and and and, you know, he was just like the guy no one wanted to go against. I’m looking in my along the line. I’m kind of counting like, oh, I got him.
00:26:24:13 – 00:26:44:24
Tom McCarthy
And I go, All right, just go for it. I was so afraid, but I just went as hard as I could. And he outweighed me by, you know, I was a sophomore. He outweighed me by £40 or something like that. And I just kind of bizarre, like, good. And he fumbled the ball and it was like going crazy and patting the battery on the back and and he’s pissed off at me now.
00:26:45:00 – 00:27:05:19
Tom McCarthy
Right. And but it was just I was afraid, like this exterior. I just went for it. So I did a lot of that. But it wasn’t fun, you know, it wasn’t joyful. Like my experience, even when I achieve things, it was like, you know, it was just it wasn’t fulfilling because I was doing it out of fear for so many years.
00:27:06:21 – 00:27:26:05
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that’s a good point in terms of how we approach life, you know, and there’s nothing and it’s great to face those challenges head on. Right? And it’s great to face those fears head on. And it’s great to have, you know, challenging experiences in our life. That’s how we learn. You just talked about that. You know, it’s one way that we can we can learn and grow exponentially.
00:27:26:13 – 00:27:50:08
Nathan Crane
But at the same time, if like, that’s all we’re having, you know, is constant fearful experiences and challenging experiences and there’s really no fulfillment and joy, then the life becomes, you know, very un fulfilling. And and that’s like it’s not a fun in life can be really fun. You know, life can be amazing and fulfilling and full of happiness and joy.
00:27:50:08 – 00:28:15:10
Nathan Crane
Some people think, oh, that just you know, that doesn’t exist. That’s made up. It’s a fairy tale, I believe. Bullshit. It’s made up. I mean, I went from the opposite extreme of being, you know, the most unhappy, depressed, angry, stressed out, violent human being a person could be to literally the opposite, you know, loving lives, healthy, happy family, vibrant, you know, enjoying.
00:28:15:10 – 00:28:51:09
Nathan Crane
I still have challenges and problems and things I need to, you know, like your book, The Breakthrough quote, things I need a breakthrough. Right? But at the same time, it’s like most of the things I’m doing on a day to day basis, I really enjoy and I get a lot of fulfillment from. And so, you know, you speak from a lot of personal experience with this and and so do I in terms of like it’s a reality, you can really enjoy life, but we have to get there, you know, through these steps of of overcoming the things that are limiting us from experiencing that really fulfilling life.
00:28:51:13 – 00:29:09:06
Nathan Crane
And oftentimes that’s where it is. It’s a trauma from childhood that’s still preventing us. We haven’t healed it yet, or it’s a belief system that we still believe. You know, the world’s out to get us. It’s a dog eat dog. It was a cat eat dog world. Whatever the old saying is right. It’s like everybody’s out the.
00:29:09:06 – 00:29:10:19
Tom McCarthy
Dog eat dog, dog, eat dog.
00:29:10:19 – 00:29:11:21
Nathan Crane
Eat dog world. Right.
00:29:11:22 – 00:29:12:24
Tom McCarthy
All these ideas.
00:29:13:05 – 00:29:34:09
Nathan Crane
Of the dog eat cat world. You know, all of these all of these belief systems that like limit us like, yeah, sure there’s people that are out there just to steal from you or whatever. But we also attract those people into our lives and we attract these situations into our lives. You know, the Law of Attraction is a very, very real thing.
00:29:35:01 – 00:29:44:01
Nathan Crane
And I think it’s even deeper than what most people understand it to be. Yeah, you talk about the law of attraction as well. I mean, what is your thoughts, experiences on that?
00:29:44:18 – 00:30:02:24
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, well, let me just say one thing about what you’re talking about, too, about, you know, like, you know, I’ve evolved. You’ve evolved. We’re not done yet. You know, you’re you’re you’re a very successful guy. You have a beautiful family, just an amazing family. But there’s going to be stuff coming up that, you know, you’re you have to be a detective.
00:30:02:24 – 00:30:24:06
Tom McCarthy
You know, you have to keep going down into who you are. And freeing things up now might not be deep traumas. It may just be a belief about what’s possible for the next level of who you can be. Right. You know, like how much more money can you earn or how much more success can you have or how much more energy or health or love can you experience.
00:30:24:15 – 00:31:03:19
Tom McCarthy
So I think we all have limits, right, that we put inside ourselves. And there are false limits because they don’t have to be there. But we hold onto them for some reason or not. And and so, I mean, this morning, you know, I dug down in, I got woken up by my super conscious I call the subconscious. You’re super conscious that and I just noticed there was a couple of things where I had to dig down in and I’ve got different processes to do that, to free up trapped energy, right to free up, you know, get rid of a belief system that maybe I had or and when I say a belief system I had
00:31:03:19 – 00:31:22:15
Tom McCarthy
is a belief system because I remember one of the one of the things I cleared up, I went back to when I was 22 years old, it was just in my mind. Right. But, you know, that 22 year old had something that I needed to release. And then another one was when I was 46 years old. So and I’m I’m living a great life.
00:31:22:15 – 00:31:49:19
Tom McCarthy
I mean, you know, I’ve got a great family. I’ve got, you know, lots of success. But I’m not I’m not done. Like, I know there’s stuff that I have to free up because the law of attraction is everything’s created twice, first inside, then on the outside. And I do believe that even when we are programed correctly on the inside to achieve something, we want our actions.
00:31:49:19 – 00:32:13:17
Tom McCarthy
It’s not like you don’t have to take any action, right? But our actions actually will be guided like I was guided to take an action this morning of working on myself. Right? I was guided. I’m teaching a training tomorrow for people on my break to code master class and I also got my super conscious, you know, gave me to to new ideas to put into that class this morning.
00:32:13:17 – 00:32:34:14
Tom McCarthy
I’m going to take action on those ideas. I’m not going to keep them inside. But my super conscious was guiding me. We have two parts of our mind. We have the conscious mind, we have the I call it the super conscious mind and the conscious mind is what you and I are doing this discussion with right now. Right now, for the most part, like our super conscious also is guiding us because we’re not scripted out, right?
00:32:34:14 – 00:33:03:21
Tom McCarthy
That’s coming from our super conscious, but we’re thinking through. You were thinking about what I’m saying, You’re coming up with a new question. I’m thinking about the question you ask, right? And and using my conscious mind to go down into my super conscious. So the conscious mind can process about 40 things a second. So that’s pretty good. But the super conscious, according to science, which I think probably it’s much, much greater than this can process 40 million bits of information per second, right?
00:33:03:24 – 00:33:34:17
Tom McCarthy
It’s running 95% of our lives. You’re not consciously thinking through your life. And if you are, you’re going so slow that you’re not going to accomplish very much. You’re super conscious. Your habits, your programs are guiding you through. And so most of our life are almost on like, you know, autopilot, right now. Sometimes that autopilot is creating crappy results, and that’s where we have to go down into the super conscious and let go of things.
00:33:34:17 – 00:34:07:18
Tom McCarthy
A lot of people think you just put positivity down in there and if you do that, but you don’t let go of the crap that’s underneath, you’re building this house on a crappy foundation, right? It’s not going to be that stable and it’s not going to be that resilient. So you need to do both. You need to let go of your old baggage and then you need to install a new story inside of you, of who you are, what you’re capable of, what you want to focus in on, and the super conscious to me is not a body part, it’s not the brain.
00:34:07:20 – 00:34:26:22
Tom McCarthy
A lot of people in the mind is the brain and the brain is the brain, right? The mind is much more than that. I think we live within mind, like when somebody dies, if you wave them right before they die anyway, them right after they die, they’re going to weigh the same amount. But they’re not down, right? The brain’s still there.
00:34:27:16 – 00:34:56:07
Tom McCarthy
But you’re not your brain, right? You are this, this, this bigger part of of consciousness then the brain. The brain is the way that that the mind can come down into the physical world, but it’s bigger than that. And I think the super conscious mind can connect with information, ideas, energy beings, you know, outside of the body. It can go get information you need.
00:34:56:07 – 00:35:17:16
Tom McCarthy
So I do believe in the law of attraction. I do believe that you do need to do a couple of things, though, to really activated on a high level, and one is to let go of things, not just think positive and think you’re going to get it. And then also you’re going to be guided and you need to take some actions to typically.
00:35:17:16 – 00:35:45:00
Nathan Crane
You know, one of my first spiritual mentors when I was around 20 years old are tour guide ten. One of the things he used to tell me that I really resonated with was the brain is the thinking system of the human, and the mind is the thinking system of the soul of the soul, right? And and it makes a lot of sense because no matter how many surgeons dissect the brain, they cannot find the operator, right?
00:35:45:08 – 00:36:11:11
Nathan Crane
Like the brain’s like a circuit board that directs the body, the physical body. But there is no there is no play, there is no operator in the brain driving and controlling things. It’s like it needs input from somewhere else to actually direct the brain what to do. And we do that through our thoughts and emotions and building. And so where the thoughts, emotions and beliefs come from, they say, well, that’s stored here in the brain.
00:36:11:18 – 00:36:16:10
Nathan Crane
Not true. You can’t dig in and find a thought, an emotion or a belief.
00:36:16:10 – 00:36:17:13
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, there are parts right there.
00:36:17:13 – 00:36:44:02
Nathan Crane
Right, Right. Oh, there’s the thought. No, you can see that part of the brain being activated because of the thoughts, but the thoughts aren’t actually. You can’t go in and digest and dissect a thought, right? Just so you can’t go and dissect the operator. So recognizing that the mind is a what I like to really think in in very much in alignment with arteries tell me is the mind is the thinking system of the soul of our spirit.
00:36:44:02 – 00:37:06:09
Nathan Crane
And that is, you know, the deeper part of us. And there are multiple areas of the mind, as you talked about, depends on who you talk to, you know, different levels of the mind, different levels of thinking, etc.. But when we’re talking about belief systems that drive our everyday thinking in actions. Bruce Lipton I know, I know. You know.
00:37:06:09 – 00:37:35:00
Nathan Crane
Bruce Lipton Yeah, good friend and colleague of mine. I’ve done a ton of interviews with him over the years and one of the things that he also agrees with what you just said, which is 95% of our actions every day in our thinking, it really comes from our subconscious beliefs, right? Yeah. Or what you’re calling super conscious. And those beliefs, if they are a belief that I am not good enough, that I am bound for disease because it runs in my family, that money doesn’t grow on trees.
00:37:35:00 – 00:37:47:07
Nathan Crane
Right. Take any belief you you have subconsciously that you were raised with it. You’re from your family or your experiences that can be limiting. And one of the things that says, well, how do you know you have a limiting belief? Well, look at that area.
00:37:47:07 – 00:37:51:00
Tom McCarthy
Look around your life and see what’s going on, and I’ll show you your limiting beliefs.
00:37:51:03 – 00:38:11:23
Nathan Crane
Exactly right. What’s going on? Like, are you having to and you’re focusing on it like you’re focusing on creating more wealth in your life, but you just can’t do it or you focus on getting healthy and vital, but it’s just not happening. Whatever. Wherever you’re having to challenge is because you have a belief that is literally preventing you from breaking through, from experiencing that thing that you’re.
00:38:12:02 – 00:38:20:22
Tom McCarthy
Here is, which is why that’s so important. Nathan is like people say Law of attraction and they focus on, you know, I want this and and that type thing.
00:38:20:22 – 00:38:23:02
Nathan Crane
Very materialistic usually. Right?
00:38:23:07 – 00:38:47:05
Tom McCarthy
Well, you’re super conscious is always creating. But it, it it doesn’t like if you have a belief like I can’t be healthy or it’s hard to get ahead financially, you’re super conscious doesn’t go, oh no, no, don’t, don’t, don’t, don’t, don’t put that down here. Like, that’s not good. It’s just like, All right, you want that? Like, that’s what you’re you keep focusing on.
00:38:47:13 – 00:39:08:03
Tom McCarthy
We’ll show you that it’s hard to get ahead. We’ll show you that you can’t get healthy. That’s why I call it super conscious. It’s like having this super, you know, this super human ability, like far more than we think we ever have. It’s like having super heroes down there, But they’re just going, Hey, what do you want? What do you want?
00:39:08:03 – 00:39:28:11
Tom McCarthy
Oh, you want you say that you can’t get ahead or you can’t make this amount of money. Yeah, well, let’s go to actually, like, make sure that he or she can’t get ahead. And so that’s why you got to get rid of that stuff, right? The super conscious is so powerful, but it’s going to do whatever is programed to do and it does not judge.
00:39:28:11 – 00:39:46:15
Tom McCarthy
It doesn’t have a but this is the beauty of having a conscious mind. By the way the conscious mind can go, That’s bullshit, man. We got to get that out of there. But you’ve got to you’ve got to go down and do the work to get it out and and there’s lots of great tech techniques, technologies, but you got to do that work.
00:39:46:15 – 00:40:03:16
Tom McCarthy
Otherwise, if you let it stay down there, it will create things in your life that you don’t really want. And you’re like, Why does this keep happening to me? It’s not because you’re a victim of something. It’s because you are creating it because you’re not getting that crap out.
00:40:04:11 – 00:40:24:02
Nathan Crane
So I got to tell you, like financially, right? Personally, like when I was somewhere around 19, 20, 21, it was like I wanted to be financially successful and it was a want, but I had a lot of deep beliefs I wasn’t even aware of about money. Money doesn’t grow on trees and blah, blah, blah, right, all of that.
00:40:24:12 – 00:40:45:08
Nathan Crane
And so it’s like I struggled financially no matter what I did, no matter how many businesses I started or business partners I went to business with or, you know, I’ve always been entrepreneur in my whole life, like just struggle, struggle, struggle, learn, struggle, barely pay the rent every month, like, you know, then I’ve got a new child and a wife and it’s like I’ve got a new business.
00:40:45:08 – 00:41:23:00
Nathan Crane
And it’s just one struggle after another after another. And all of those have been wonderful learning experiences. But it wasn’t until I. I read the book by T Bakker Secrets of the Millionaire Mindset, where I got a real like he doesn’t a really funny way to help you recognize these limiting beliefs that we have around money. So not only was it that plus the dedication that said, you know what, for the first time in my life, I am committed to learning and doing what it takes to become financially, to become, to to manage.
00:41:23:03 – 00:41:41:13
Nathan Crane
And so how do you do that? And the answer was you have to learn to manage money well. And so, you know, I went from struggling all the time for years and years and years to actually, for the first time in my life, managing money, saving it, learning about investing and committing myself to learning. You know, money’s and it’s.
00:41:42:01 – 00:41:43:13
Tom McCarthy
In my name. Yeah.
00:41:43:22 – 00:42:05:18
Nathan Crane
Right. You have a lot of way more experience, you know, with success around money than I do. And so you can speak to this, you know, significantly. But just sharing my own personal story on that, it was changing my belief, making a dedicated commitment in my mind that I am going to do this and learn how to do it from the best no matter what.
00:42:05:18 – 00:42:29:08
Nathan Crane
So I finally made the commitment. I started reading books and taking classes and listening, learning, and then third, actually implement what I’m learning, right? It was like we started the money management with like $50 and then it just grew every month from there. And so it’s like, I just don’t have the same concern and worry that I used to or the same challenges or problems because of exactly that.
00:42:29:08 – 00:42:31:10
Nathan Crane
And a lot of it started with the belief system.
00:42:31:23 – 00:42:32:15
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:32:16 – 00:42:40:04
Nathan Crane
So did you did you, did you always did you ever struggle with money or have you as money always been kind of easy for you?
00:42:40:04 – 00:43:22:10
Tom McCarthy
So I we didn’t have any money. My mom had lots of fears and worries about money. I can remember her being really stressed out about, you know, can we pay for this? And I remember sometimes like there was not enough food and she would feed us and she would wanna eat. So I went through that growing up. But I also had a grandfather who was he was he was he was a little bit probably cavalier with money, but he was very generous with money and he had grown up in it, served a lot of years in the military and was in the CIA and knew presidents and things like that.
00:43:22:21 – 00:43:44:07
Tom McCarthy
But he he had a little better view of money. And so I had this I had this feeling that at some point in time I would be really successful. And money did come relatively easy to me. But then there was different levels, like, you know, okay, so you make this amount of money, but then you find you have like an upper limit in terms of your beliefs.
00:43:44:07 – 00:44:07:02
Tom McCarthy
And so I have had to break through upper limits and and, you know, I’m still working on that, you know, even though I make, you know, quite a bit of money. I’m not I’m not into making money just to make money. I do believe everything is energy. And because I’m a teacher for people that really there are no limits.
00:44:07:02 – 00:44:36:04
Tom McCarthy
That’s what I want in my book. That’s called the Breaking Through Code, but Living a Life without Limits. It’s a story about that. I want to I want to continue to manifest and create more wealth by doing good things, helping people, by making investments and companies that are really doing good for the world. I don’t invest in things that I don’t believe in so that I can show people, hey, I can, you know, if if I can do it.
00:44:36:17 – 00:44:55:11
Tom McCarthy
If a kid that had, you know, the traumas I had and the fears I had and everything I had him, I can do it. Heck yeah, you can do it. And so that’s part of what why I want to increase the amount of money I make. And then also just the ability to give back to people, right. To contribute more and and use money for good.
00:44:55:16 – 00:45:14:14
Tom McCarthy
So for me, it’s kind of just a fun game now to continue to blow through limitations and and and create even more to to to learn more so I can help other people continue to do that, not limit myself. I don’t ever want to limit myself. But that’s not the only area that I’m working on is money. I mean, it’s any area of my life.
00:45:15:10 – 00:45:39:11
Tom McCarthy
Happiness, levels of happiness, levels of fulfillment, relationships, health, health has been a big one for me, but right, because I have that thing in 2015. And so really making sure because I think a lot of years though, I didn’t see myself as totally healthy. I was I was, you know, keeping so much inside. So that’s been one that I’ve been focused on and why I’ve had you on my summit, the Global Energy Healing Summit.
00:45:39:11 – 00:45:55:04
Tom McCarthy
Right. That’s been a passion of mine now for several years. But yeah, I mean, look, I think we’re all developing to the till we take our last breath in this physical body. Our job is to learn and grow and share and help and do all that stuff.
00:45:56:09 – 00:46:18:06
Nathan Crane
So the breakthrough code, like what is your what is the process that you have discovered that you call the breakthrough code that helps people break through their limitations, whatever it is, money, relationships, health, business, you know, whatever it is.
00:46:18:23 – 00:46:36:21
Tom McCarthy
It’s three things. But you know what I really want the people to understand is you can shift reality If you don’t like what’s going on, shift it, don’t just accept it. Just don’t, you know, fit in. You can shift it. I mean, look at what happened in the Ukraine when, you know, Russia attacked the Ukraine. What’s the most likely thing that’s going to happen in the Ukraine?
00:46:36:21 – 00:46:56:15
Tom McCarthy
There’s it’s going to be over in a couple of days. And, you know, the president flies out and so and the country surrenders. It becomes, you know, part of Russia again. Well, that didn’t happen. Why? Well, one guy said, no, I don’t want to do I don’t want it to be that way. And he’s he stepped up and he had a vision that, you know, we’re going to win this thing.
00:46:56:15 – 00:47:19:21
Tom McCarthy
And and then he he had a belief system. He had a story is funny. One like a two weeks after the invasion. There’s a Ukrainian guy that was here, some Instagram, an Instagram influencer with like 10 million followers, came over to our home. She wanted to meet me, so we had a nice lunch together. But her photographer, her videographer was from the Ukraine.
00:47:19:21 – 00:47:36:21
Tom McCarthy
And I said, you know, Hey, how do you feel about what’s going on? And he said, We’re going to win. Now, this was two weeks. Then I said, Are you sure? Because I have no doubt. I go, Why don’t you? Why do you think that? Right? I mean, come on, this army is much bigger than yours. He goes, because we believe that.
00:47:36:21 – 00:47:54:22
Tom McCarthy
We believe we’re going to win. Now, a lot of that was driven by their presence. Zelensky And, you know, I don’t know if they’re going to win in the end, right? I every day I actually do a little bit of visualization, seeing the Russians going back and peace happening. In my mind. I do it all in my mind, but I’m everything’s energy, right.
00:47:54:22 – 00:48:19:07
Tom McCarthy
We can shift energy with our thoughts because energy follows thoughts and thoughts become things so we can do this right. I mean, he’s shift to reality for right now. He’s shifted reality. This president. He’s gotten people like me and you and other people that probably don’t think about the Ukraine normally like to really think about them and to want to see peace there.
00:48:19:14 – 00:48:29:22
Tom McCarthy
Right. Where where everybody can go back and and and bloodshed stopping. But he he stood up, you know, even the United States and they said, hey, look.
00:48:29:22 – 00:48:30:09
Nathan Crane
We’ll fly.
00:48:30:09 – 00:48:47:07
Tom McCarthy
Out like the you know, the Russians are coming to get you and your family, your number one on their hit list. And he goes, I don’t need bullets. I need I don’t need You said, I don’t need a ride. I need bullets. And and so he shifted the reality, the consciousness of a large part of the world. Not every not everyone.
00:48:47:07 – 00:49:10:03
Tom McCarthy
Right. Some people don’t agree with that. Maybe they side with the other side. But he’s shifted so much reality. And so how do you do that? And hopefully it won’t be in a situation like that. But shifting reality in terms of how prosperous you can be, shifting reality in terms of how much health you can enjoy, how much happiness, how much love you can have in your life, how do you do it?
00:49:11:01 – 00:49:33:03
Tom McCarthy
There’s three big ideas, and these are just things I see in people that have made huge shifts in reality, very successful people, whether it be athletes or people healing or what do you do? Number one, you focus on less and then obsess. So what does it mean, focus on less? Well, there was a guy I actually heard this story recently.
00:49:33:08 – 00:50:02:12
Tom McCarthy
There was a guy that a friend of mine, Paul Shealy, knows that was putting a Fuze box in his house for lighting and it blew up and literally destroyed his hand. So there was like muscles, you know, flesh was hanging, muscles, tendons, ligaments and immediately though, what he did because, I mean, he saw his hand. But immediately the first thing most people do is like, oh, I’m screwed, right?
00:50:02:12 – 00:50:23:12
Tom McCarthy
You know, this is never going to be a hand again. But immediately he looked at it and he said, My hand is going to be okay. And that’s not what most people do. But he focused in on that. And then and then what he did right after that, by the way, was not great. He it was, you know, as they burned his hand, obviously, from the, you know, this explosion.
00:50:23:20 – 00:50:43:21
Tom McCarthy
So he goes and sticks it in the bucket of liquid, the first bucket of liquid he could find just to cool it down. And it was motor oil. It was motor oil that he had drained from his gar. So now and then he he had a friend there and he took it out of the motor oil and he told his friend, You’ve got to take me to the hospital.
00:50:44:04 – 00:51:03:03
Tom McCarthy
His friend looked at the hand and fainted. So his friends are out, so he drives himself to the hospital. One hand he goes in there and he says, You know, I need help. And they’re like, They looked at it and they said, Oh my God. And he goes, You know, I actually stuck it in some motor oil, too.
00:51:03:11 – 00:51:24:01
Tom McCarthy
And they said, you know, we’re going to have to amputate your hand, you know, like it’s not going to heal back. It just there’s no hope of that. And with the motor oil, like, the risk of infection and gangrene is just too great. And he said, now don’t up, don’t amputate my hand. My hand will be healthy. He was focused in on not a million things at that time.
00:51:24:01 – 00:51:42:18
Tom McCarthy
He wasn’t trying to, you know, be a breakdancer and heal his hand and go out and, you know, cook a meal like he focused in. And I think when you when you have to when you’re going for a breakthrough, you need to be laser like, you know, maybe you can have like three things. Doesn’t mean you can’t do other things.
00:51:42:18 – 00:52:04:18
Tom McCarthy
But when you focus your mind on on what’s really important, the mind has to know, like apply a lot of focus, a lot of energy to this. And then the obsess part is not a conscious obsession. It’s a super conscious obsession. We need to communicate it down into the super conscious. We’re now the super conscious goes, All right, we gotcha.
00:52:05:04 – 00:52:21:20
Tom McCarthy
And so to do that, you’ve got to be able to see it. I call it, see it, feel it, believe it, and then let it go. Let the super conscious because it doesn’t sleep. It can do 24 seven. It can really start to work on that. So this guy did that, right? You know, he but but he saw it.
00:52:22:06 – 00:52:51:11
Tom McCarthy
He felt it. He saw it. I mean, look, he saw the hand in the shape it was in, but he didn’t see it as as that is what is going to be. He saw it healthy. He saw it, you know, back to, you know, even better than it was before. My friend Paul Seeley said when he showed when the guys showed him his two hands, the hand that had been destroyed and then healed actually looked younger and better and smoother skin than this other hand that, you know, didn’t get the you know, didn’t get the shock.
00:52:51:24 – 00:52:55:08
Tom McCarthy
So that’s number one focus on lesson obsessed. Number two.
00:52:55:08 – 00:53:25:08
Nathan Crane
Before before you go to number two, I want to I want to just highlight the fact that what you just shared is, like so incredibly powerful for achieving any major dream or goal in your life or business or health or anything. Right? I mean, that alone. That alone, so many people are focused on, so many different things in different areas that they can’t ever put enough attention and focus on one thing.
00:53:25:15 – 00:53:52:11
Nathan Crane
Right. Tony Robbins famously says, where focus goes, energy flows, right? Where you put your focus is where the universe comes to support you in achieving that thing. But the bigger the goal, the bigger the dream, often the more focus it requires, you know, and need more time also. And you do see this in any professional athlete who has made it into the highest level of being a professional athlete.
00:53:52:11 – 00:54:08:12
Nathan Crane
Is they obsessed about it every day and went out and took action every day and never faltered in their belief may have at times where it’s like, Oh God, it just seems impossible. But the next day they were out of that mindset and back into, I’m going to do this, I’m going to I’m going to make this happen.
00:54:08:12 – 00:54:26:04
Nathan Crane
I’m going to achieve this. I don’t care how long it takes me, right? And it’s just you didn’t talk to any. It was never by accident. Anybody ever made it to the pros in any professional sport. And and, you know, they always had to believe in themselves. They always were driven towards that. And that’s true for any billionaire today.
00:54:26:04 – 00:54:42:12
Nathan Crane
You know, they never became you don’t become a billionaire by accident or even a millionaire. I mean, you win the lottery. But that’s we know the story of that. It’s like one of the worst things you could ever do is win the lottery. It’s like, unfortunately, very sadly, those people end up worse than when they got the $50 million because they don’t use.
00:54:42:12 – 00:55:03:06
Tom McCarthy
It because they’re they’re they’re vibration and their energy is not at that level yet. So they take on all this energy. That’s just money is energy. And so they find ways to make poor investments. You know, they just let go of it. But yeah, and you’re right, Nathan. Look, but you you have to and I would I would say one caveat.
00:55:03:06 – 00:55:22:03
Tom McCarthy
I don’t think everybody that’s achieved something always believed in themselves because I think a lot of times they didn’t. And then they learned how to do it. So if you’re someone who’s like I am and always believed it was okay, right, you can start right now. You know, I don’t know of the guy that had that belief that his hand was going to be healed.
00:55:22:03 – 00:55:38:08
Tom McCarthy
Always believed he could heal things like that. But in the moment he needed to. He stepped up. I had a situation back actually in 2005 where I was invited to play in a poker tournament and I see trophies behind you. Let’s like him and Oscar back there. I’m not sure what that is.
00:55:38:11 – 00:55:39:23
Nathan Crane
It’s for my documentary. Yeah.
00:55:40:00 – 00:55:44:22
Tom McCarthy
So, yeah. Was that an Oscar and Emmy? I know the one above. The one about.
00:55:44:22 – 00:55:51:12
Nathan Crane
Oh, yeah, it does look like. Like an Oscar. That’d be pretty cool, huh? I could say. Yeah, that’s an Oscar for my father.
00:55:51:12 – 00:55:54:05
Tom McCarthy
Trust me. With your Oscar there. Now.
00:55:54:05 – 00:56:02:06
Nathan Crane
No, that was the for cancer. The integrative perspective. Oh, cool. The best science film from the CARE awards.
00:56:02:11 – 00:56:03:21
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. Awesome. That was.
00:56:04:05 – 00:56:05:22
Nathan Crane
Back. Not quite an Oscar yet. Yeah.
00:56:06:08 – 00:56:24:12
Tom McCarthy
Way back in. In. I’ve got a little case back there that there’s a trophy and it’s from a poker tournament that I won. Now I was asked to play in it in 2005 and when I was first asked to play, I didn’t, I didn’t want to do it. And the main reason was because I didn’t not to play poker.
00:56:24:24 – 00:56:41:19
Tom McCarthy
I played one time, like 20 years before, just at my fraternity, and I played terrible and, you know, I didn’t remember anything. And the guy’s like, Oh, come on, man, there’s going to be some it’s going to be a great tournament. There’s going to be some World Series of Poker champion players. They’re like, That’s pumping me out, right?
00:56:41:19 – 00:56:55:22
Tom McCarthy
I’m a player. Some of the best players in the world. And and they says for a good cause that that finally got for good cause. All right. But the first thought in my head, I didn’t believe in myself. I’m like, shit, I’m going to go there. I’m going to embarrass myself. I’ll be done in like 20 minutes. I said, All right.
00:56:55:22 – 00:57:18:03
Tom McCarthy
No, no, no. Come on. McCarthy What do you teach? Is that what you teach? Like psych yourself up right from the get go? And I said, All right, I’m going to I’m going to do what I teach. And so what I did was I said two things to myself, which goes into the second big idea by the way, which is once you know what you want to focus on, you’ve got to upgrade your internal story to upgrade your life.
00:57:18:03 – 00:57:39:00
Tom McCarthy
Right? And we all the story. So I had a story initially going into this tournament that there’s no way I’m going to win. And I said, All right, change the story. And so my new story that I came up with and when we say obsess, I don’t want people to have an unhealthy obsession. Like if you are thinking about it every minute of the day, that’s a little bit unhealthy.
00:57:39:13 – 00:57:55:01
Tom McCarthy
I think you need to trust your super conscious a little bit more. You need to do the work. You need to do the work a few times a day to program it down in to the super conscious. And you need to do if you’re training for an event like you obviously got to go out, you got to take the action and do some of that too.
00:57:55:02 – 00:58:18:06
Tom McCarthy
You got to train. But if you overtrained or if you overthink about it, then you tend to decrease your likelihood you’re going to achieve it. So it’s just as bad as under training or over or under, you know, programing. So what I did, I thought about that tournament I had about maybe ten days to prepare. I didn’t I didn’t study anything on poker.
00:58:18:06 – 00:58:35:16
Tom McCarthy
I did have one guy teach me for about 10 minutes the hands that I was supposed to get. So I kind of understood it, but I did. I did probably, I don’t know, eight or ten times a day, whenever I would think about the tournament would pop in my head or I would force myself to make it pop in my head.
00:58:36:00 – 00:58:58:21
Tom McCarthy
I told myself to those two things. I told myself I may and I told myself with certainty, not like half assed, but certainly I told myself I made great decisions and I found a way to win. And I just found that in I carved that and I drove that into my super conscious. Whenever I thought about it was like, Oh yeah, I made great decisions at that tournament and I found a way to win, right?
00:58:58:21 – 00:59:07:09
Tom McCarthy
And I really felt it. And a lot of it is the way you say to yourself, if you say it, how fast the super conscious won’t accept it. It’s like now you don’t, you don’t, you don’t mean that.
00:59:07:18 – 00:59:27:03
Nathan Crane
It’s also it’s also very powerful to to in that kind of affirmation process, right, is to say it as if it already happened, which is why you said I made great decisions, not I’m going to make great decisions. It’s I already made them. It’s done like it’s already done. And that is.
00:59:27:03 – 00:59:47:04
Tom McCarthy
Super conscious, doesn’t know whether it’s happened or not. That’s why you can have a dream where you’re falling and it feels real, right? Because you didn’t really fall right. But it’s real. So exactly great point, Nathan. You want to do it as if it’s already done. That’s what I teach athletes. I’ve coach for athletes that have won world championships, the Arsenal Football Club, they sent me a ball back there.
00:59:47:04 – 01:00:03:24
Tom McCarthy
I helped them before their undefeated season actually in 2000 for 2005. But it was for me, it was done. It was done inside. Everything’s great. And twice it was done inside. And I started to show up to the tournament, though. And so I remember I was telling my wife, Hey, honey, I’m going to this tournament. I said, Don’t wait up.
01:00:04:18 – 01:00:23:24
Tom McCarthy
I’m going to win this thing. And she knew I’d never played poker and she never seen me play poker. She probably didn’t even know I played once, you know, 20 some years ago. And so she said, What time is it start? I said, about 630. She goes, All right, I’ll see you back at seven, you know. And so I but hey, you’re going to have people like that in your life.
01:00:23:24 – 01:00:41:08
Tom McCarthy
And she was like, playful and fun. She believes in me, but that pissed me off a little bit. Like, I’ll show her. And so I go to this tournament and I had so much confidence on her and confidence by most people’s standards, by the way, which is, okay, the guy that held his hand had confidence. It wasn’t earned, right?
01:00:41:08 – 01:00:58:09
Tom McCarthy
He just stepped up and they had confidence. And so I go to the tournament and there’s tons of tables. I’m at one table like I know six or eight people at the table. I can’t remember. And I’m just so confident, like better players than me are making mistakes because it’s like, man, this guy looks confident, like they’re making mistakes.
01:00:58:09 – 01:01:25:14
Tom McCarthy
I win my table. I get all the way eventually to the Champions table. I’m playing against some really good players. I’m beating them. And you know, part of it may even be manifesting better cards, but sometimes I’m winning without even having the best cards, right, because I’m just so confident and people are, you know, I you know, they think I’m, you know, like just positioning myself or I forget what you call it in poker, but, you know, where you’re you’re acting like you got a really good card by just acting like every hand.
01:01:25:15 – 01:01:27:03
Tom McCarthy
I mean, I made great decisions.
01:01:27:03 – 01:01:28:12
Nathan Crane
You’re bluffing. Bluffing?
01:01:28:12 – 01:01:42:24
Tom McCarthy
Possible bluffing. That’s what’s called, you know? And so I get down, It’s just me and one other guy. And now my friends, like teasing him because he’s like one of the I think, one of the World Series of Poker Championship guys. And it’s like you’re losing the guy doesn’t even not apply and he’s off.
01:01:42:24 – 01:01:45:02
Nathan Crane
And beginner’s luck is what they would say.
01:01:45:03 – 01:02:11:03
Tom McCarthy
I’ve got way more chips than him. And and so he eventually he goes all in. He must have thought he had a good hand. And that was the only time I did feel like, oh, I felt my heart got to rise. This you’re really going to work, right? But now is like all in, right? I go in and I end up winning and my buddies are lifting me up and they give me the trophy and I got this gaudy bracelet they give me when I get home.
01:02:11:03 – 01:02:30:14
Tom McCarthy
It’s like 130 or two in the morning and I’m holding my trophy. I couldn’t resist. Right? I go in, I go in the bedroom, I flick the light on. I’m hold my trophy, my wife wakes up. What’s happening? Oh, hey, the champ is here. Guess you’re sleeping tonight, right? Yeah. She wasn’t that amused by it, but.
01:02:30:20 – 01:02:31:23
Nathan Crane
She’s like, Turn off the light.
01:02:32:05 – 01:02:52:10
Tom McCarthy
Go to bed. You wanted to poker Germany? Big deal. But I do that stuff all the time. I do it financially. I I’ll look at, you know, going into the next quarter in a in a business that I have and I’ll go, all right. You know what’s most logically what we’re going to do here? And based upon the pipeline and everything and I go, No, no, we’re going to do this number.
01:02:52:10 – 01:03:12:10
Tom McCarthy
And I just put it in my head and I start communicating it every day. And it’s funny, like sometimes things will happen that go counter against it, right? Where I remember one time I went in and I did it for Q4 and I’m like, All right, you know, here’s and I just did it for myself. I didn’t tell my team, you know, this is the number that we’re going to hit.
01:03:12:20 – 01:03:30:03
Tom McCarthy
It is way above where we were. And then I get this call, and it’s from one of my big clients like, Hey, we want to have you and your entire team come over. We got this big piece of training that we want you to do over in Europe. And I’m like, Holy crap. Like, it’s happening. And I remember I, you know, I’m like, I did it.
01:03:30:03 – 01:03:53:01
Tom McCarthy
You know, it’s like a weekend. And and then all of a sudden, you know, I’m thinking, Oh, this is great. And then for whatever reason, they canceled it. Like, like there was like, I blew it. It didn’t happen. And then I go, Hey, wait a minute. How do you know you didn’t need that to cancel to even do something even bigger, to make your belief even stronger?
01:03:53:01 – 01:04:21:06
Tom McCarthy
And I said, Yeah, get back on track. McCarthy Lets go. And there wasn’t one big thing like that, but things started happening. And I remember I looked like a week before the end of the quarter, I’m like, Hey, we already surpassed this number. It was it was in dribs and drabs. It wasn’t some dynamic thing, but I think I needed to learn that you don’t need to have to count on that to to make this happen.
01:04:21:06 – 01:04:39:12
Tom McCarthy
Like maybe you don’t get that, but other things are there to support you. And that’s been a huge lesson for me. So thank God that did happen because now with the things that I’m kind of counting on, you know, for business, whatever happened or don’t happen, I’m not I’m not out of the game. I’m like, all right, So I guess I didn’t need that or I learned something from that.
01:04:39:24 – 01:04:43:14
Tom McCarthy
But other things are going to come and support me and they typically do.
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01:06:01:11 – 01:06:31:05
Nathan Crane
And I hope to see you over there now let’s get back to the show. You know, and that that mindset that you teach and you write about and you consult people through, it works in every situation in life, right? We have a retreat coming up for our holistic leadership counsel. And I’ve been producing events for almost going on two decades now, all kinds of retreats and expos and festivals and conferences, some of them up to a couple thousand attendees at a time.
01:06:31:17 – 01:06:51:03
Nathan Crane
And one of the things that I started doing years ago when I started producing events was leading up to the event. I would I would do exactly that. It put in my mind, you know, seeing people’s what I see in my mind is people’s responses after the event where they’re saying, This is the most amazing event I’ve ever been to.
01:06:51:06 – 01:07:08:21
Nathan Crane
You know, I met the people. Exactly. The people I needed to meet. This was life changing. And transformation was like, you know, one of the greatest experiences I’ve ever had. And I and I bring that when I think about the event, I bring that again and again and again in my mind as if those people are saying that about the event.
01:07:09:04 – 01:07:28:14
Nathan Crane
And I kid you not. Oh, every event that I’ve ever produced has had those exact responses. Even the smallest ones I’ve heard from people that were like, Oh my God, this is the best event I’ve ever been to, You know, It’s like it’s changed my life, my business, my this, my that. And it’s not not every single person has that experience.
01:07:28:14 – 01:07:48:03
Nathan Crane
Yeah, but many people end up having that experience and, you know, I even produced festival years ago. I ended up being a financial nightmare but was the most transformational event that literally, like thousands of people have ever been to. I literally had like a thousand people come up to me over four days and say, This is the greatest event I’ve ever been to in my life.
01:07:48:11 – 01:08:12:19
Nathan Crane
Wow. Like, literally those were the words I heard like, hundreds of times. It was just so but, you know, and so it’s like you can you can set your mind and your beliefs and your affirmations and your in your words in any area of your life and focus on that and and make it a reality. But I don’t want to, you know, lead people and think, well, that’s all you have to do, Right?
01:08:12:19 – 01:08:33:15
Nathan Crane
Right. You still have to have you still have to take action and take action in the right direction. You know, I didn’t know enough about finances back then that I took lot of bad financial actions. Yeah. For that event which led to it, you know, and a lot of like assumptions and expectations. I took some bad counsel. Someone’s like, Oh yeah, you for this artist and this one and this one, this one, this one.
01:08:33:18 – 01:08:50:06
Nathan Crane
Like, you know, $100,000 later, like, yeah, but that person’s going to bring, you know, 20 attendees and 150 and etc.. And it’s like, oh, you’ll triple your money. So I listen to that, counsel, because I didn’t really know what I was doing with that kind of event. And we ended up going into massive debt with that festival, right?
01:08:50:06 – 01:09:09:11
Nathan Crane
And so it was like, Well, now I have that experience and and I won’t make that mistake again. But, you know, it was like good intentions, you know the road down the road to hell is paved with good intentions like you have all the good right? But you also have to have some experience and take some good actions at the same time.
01:09:09:15 – 01:09:21:15
Nathan Crane
Like you could of, you know, with your belief system, go that go to that card game and just make some really bad calls, you know, and and not win it because you took some really bad actions.
01:09:22:02 – 01:09:28:09
Tom McCarthy
And I didn’t really understand the actions at that level. My super conscious was guiding me to take the right action.
01:09:28:09 – 01:09:31:17
Nathan Crane
And that’s pretty cool. You didn’t even know about poker and then you just.
01:09:32:08 – 01:09:52:17
Tom McCarthy
Guys spent 10 minutes with me to show me the hands and what I’m looking for. And but this, you know, I agree. Big idea number three is pack your day with effective action. But effective action and taking action like, you know, some people say just take massive action. I don’t believe in that. I think when you take massive action, you make a lot of mistakes.
01:09:52:23 – 01:10:16:21
Tom McCarthy
Not that making mistakes are bad, like it’s good to make a mistake and learn from it. But, you know, when you’re foaming at the mouth and you’re in a crazed state of mind and you’re you’re in you know, you’re you’re not you’re not thinking clearly, you can take a lot of action or if you have a lot of fear and you’re taking action, you can call people, but they sense your fear.
01:10:17:06 – 01:10:45:13
Tom McCarthy
So you want to take effective action. And with effective action, there’s two types of actions. One is achievement actions. I call them achievement actions. It’s like setting a meeting, making a call, writing an email, working on a proposal or things like that. And those are good. And we obviously have to do those things. But also there’s recovery actions like enough sleep, meditating, like getting yourself in a good place so that when you’re ready to take the action, you’re going to take good actions.
01:10:45:13 – 01:11:05:18
Tom McCarthy
And also actions that you take in terms of program of your mind are the most important actions. If your mind if your mind is not programed right, if you have limiting beliefs, it doesn’t matter. That’s why you see people work their asses off and not get to where they want to be or always get almost to the finish line.
01:11:05:18 – 01:11:32:00
Tom McCarthy
And then something ruins it. It’s because they’re taking action. They’re doing all the right things from the outside world, looking, looking at them. But inside they haven’t taken the action of getting rid of what they need to get rid of and programing the way that they need to be programed. So I want to redefine action because a lot of people think it’s just like, you know, working your ass off.
01:11:32:00 – 01:11:50:19
Tom McCarthy
Right. And that, you know, you look, here’s what I say. Whatever of time you feel like you need to work. If it’s 6 hours, 7 hours, 8 hours, that’s fine. You don’t need to increase that amount of time. Now, there may be times where you have sprints, you got a big event coming up and you’re working, you know more than that.
01:11:50:19 – 01:12:09:21
Tom McCarthy
But typically you don’t need to increase that. You do need to increase your effectiveness if you can double your effectiveness and work the same amount of time. Now you get twice the results. It was a lot of stuff. We do this up very effective and there’s a lot of stuff we do that just us down and doesn’t allow us to be our best when we do show up.
01:12:10:06 – 01:12:36:24
Tom McCarthy
So and then there’s, you know, a lot of people that are just on the action side versus looking how our actions driven. It starts with your story, your internal story. That’s what starts to drive your actions. Every action has a belief system behind it, right? A trigger behind it, a story behind it doesn’t come out of nowhere it comes out of our mind.
01:12:37:10 – 01:12:50:16
Tom McCarthy
And so everything’s created twice. Work hard on the inside. Don’t just do that, but work really hard in the inside. And the actions that you’re guided to do will be much more elegant and much more powerful.
01:12:51:11 – 01:12:54:11
Nathan Crane
So one of those for me is emails.
01:12:54:11 – 01:12:54:20
Tom McCarthy
Mm hmm.
01:12:54:24 – 01:13:18:12
Nathan Crane
I feel like emails are like, even though it’s. It’s like, essential for my businesses or it seems to be essential for communicating. It’s the one thing that, like I, I look forward to the least, you know, and it’s like, how do I clean up my email inbox? I don’t ever have to go there again or go there ten times less than ideal, you know?
01:13:18:16 – 01:13:18:24
Nathan Crane
Yeah.
01:13:19:24 – 01:13:45:08
Tom McCarthy
I have a problem with a clogged up. I got a lot, even though, you know, we got an E and everything like that, that is tougher for me. But email and email is just is energy, right? You know, when you send out an email, look at it as an energetic form and and you can imagine, you know what I do if it’s an important email like I’ll, I’ll bless it right I’ll see energy in it, I’ll write it from my super conscious, right.
01:13:45:08 – 01:14:10:02
Tom McCarthy
B Got it. You know, even for me, like I’m like, you like I’m not. I think I’m a good writer, you know, I’ve gotten a lot of great reviews for the Breakthrough Code, but it was not. And I had a great editor that helped me. But, you know, I remember like we’d get the chapters together and then, you know, she’d make edits, send it back, like, Oh, crap, I’m going to read this again.
01:14:10:16 – 01:14:11:20
Tom McCarthy
And, you know, you.
01:14:11:20 – 01:14:14:20
Nathan Crane
Know exactly what that’s like. I’m like, Oh, yeah.
01:14:15:02 – 01:14:37:24
Tom McCarthy
I’m not I’m not naturally a detail oriented person, but like, this book has my name on it, right? You know, so I’ve got to go in there and I will do it. Now, here’s here’s what I told people. Do what you hate to get what you want because I didn’t really like it. But the thing was, when I got into doing it, I would always be like, fascinated and oh yeah.
01:14:38:05 – 01:15:00:20
Tom McCarthy
And then another idea would come, so I would actually like it once I got past that. Well, I’m not a detail oriented part of my story person, part of my story same thing with, you know, I remember jogging like I was a sprinter. I don’t like jog, like jogging sucks. And then one day I was I was in Hawaii and I was near Diamondhead and I’m like, I’m going to go for a run.
01:15:00:20 – 01:15:21:03
Tom McCarthy
And I start, Man is beautiful out here. And because I’m jogging, I get to see more of it right then walking, right? I’m experiencing more of it. And I’m just so happy. And all of a sudden I love jogging, right? Like, what the hell just happened to me? Or foods we didn’t used to, like, like brussel sprouts and my mom forcing them down my throat.
01:15:21:14 – 01:15:43:23
Tom McCarthy
Now I go to restaurants because there’s a Brussels sprouts place. Now they’re cooked better than my mom cooked. Definitely. They’re not just boiled and salted. But yeah, we all have the ability to change and like things that we didn’t used to like. And if you notice something you don’t like, but you also go, You know what? If I did like this or if I did do it, I could get to where I want to go.
01:15:43:23 – 01:16:02:06
Tom McCarthy
Well, then just do it like I remember, you know, the first green smoothie I tasted, you know, way back when. I’m like, This is disgusting right now. I drink them every day. I remember, like, trying to get my son to do them when he was young. And it’s really good for you. He goes, I hate it. I go, You know, I don’t like it.
01:16:02:06 – 01:16:05:04
Tom McCarthy
I go, You don’t have to like it. You just have to drink it.
01:16:05:04 – 01:16:12:20
Nathan Crane
Oh, yeah, You don’t have to like it. Just drink it. Now. It is funny. As a kid, I hated all vegetables. Right? But.
01:16:12:21 – 01:16:15:19
Tom McCarthy
But now you’re a vegetarian.
01:16:15:19 – 01:16:37:03
Nathan Crane
Now vegetables every day. But it’s. It’s also one of those things that like, you know, that that goes into a deeper story of our current, you know hyper palatable foods that just make our brains so addicted anyway. You know you have sugar, sugary foods and processed foods and you know, you start eating potato chips are fried and salted, even put a little sugar on there and all of a sudden you have a.
01:16:37:13 – 01:16:39:05
Tom McCarthy
Lot of potato chips or French fries.
01:16:39:08 – 01:16:55:04
Nathan Crane
And then you have a piece of broccoli and you’re like, what the hell is this? This is disgusting. You know, It’s like, Well, yeah, you have just over sense. It’s like you have cocaine for the first time. Anyone out there who’s ever done cocaine, it’s like it’s pretty hard to match that feeling, you know? And that’s why those things.
01:16:55:04 – 01:16:58:12
Tom McCarthy
You know, that you can make cocaine. But I take your words. Well.
01:16:59:03 – 01:17:06:11
Nathan Crane
I guess you could trust me on this one. All right. It’s very there’s not much that matches that feeling. That’s what makes it very addictive.
01:17:06:11 – 01:17:09:09
Tom McCarthy
You’re making it kind of enticing to me, but I don’t think I’m going to go there.
01:17:09:21 – 01:17:28:16
Nathan Crane
And and so this is what I teach my kids, too. It’s like. And so, yes, you will feel amazing when you drink alcohol, when you smoke pot, when you do cocaine, like you’ll feel, you know, to the moon, you will feel invincible, you will feel incredible and like the most smartest person in the room and like you feel awesome.
01:17:28:16 – 01:17:46:20
Nathan Crane
This is the things I wasn’t told as a kid, right? As a kid, I was told, you know, their class and all that. All you were told was a negative of all that stuff. And here I am kind of a, you know, traumatized, angry, you know, confused, scared young kid. And then I tried it and I’m hanging out with older kids.
01:17:46:20 – 01:18:20:04
Nathan Crane
And so I try these things for the first time and I just feel fucking amazing, you know? And I’m like, What are these guys talking about, telling his stuff is terrible. This is incredible. I feel invincible. I’m like, you know, I feel amazing for the first time in my life. Now, the downside is what, you know, everybody knows about or talks about, which is how terrible the the down coming down from these things are and then the addictive things that nobody can tell you really the life that it leads to when you become addicted to these kinds of drugs and alcohol, like hardcore addicted.
01:18:20:12 – 01:18:58:20
Nathan Crane
I mean, it is the most terrible life anybody can go through. You have a lot of fun and you have so many terrible experiences, so much pain and suffering, mental, emotional, physical, like so deeply painful in so many ways. So it’s like understanding both sides, the whole reality. So we know, you know, it’s like there are many people who become very wealthy and financially successful, but they’re incredibly depressed and very unhappy, you know, And so so people attribute that most people take that anger.
01:18:58:20 – 01:19:22:06
Nathan Crane
Oh, money equals unhappiness. I, I don’t really care about making money. And it’s like, well, no, that person or those people, you know, are unhappy in their lives and may or may not have anything to do with the money. Right. There are also very, very, very wealthy and successful people who are incredibly happy and healthy and generous and loving and caring and fulfilled in their lives.
01:19:22:19 – 01:19:42:14
Tom McCarthy
So I think it’s it’s how you view money, right? Because I don’t know. To me, it’s just energy. It’s just energy. It’s not like a piece of paper, like like if I if I take a piece of paper on my desk, like this piece of paper and I say, you know, do come to my house, I’ll give you this piece of paper, you go, I don’t need that little piece of paper.
01:19:42:14 – 01:19:57:00
Tom McCarthy
But if I had, you know, a piece of paper that would say, I don’t know, I don’t know. Is there $1,000 bill? I’ve never had a thought about one. You know, a stack of hundreds. Hey, I got this. This, this paper. If you come get this paper, you’ve come to my house like this paper, I’ll come to you.
01:19:57:06 – 01:20:25:02
Tom McCarthy
But it’s just a belief system, right? You believe? We believe now it’s got value because it’s printed in a certain way. And but at the end of the day, it’s paper that. That it’s the energy that we believe that it has that really makes us go after it. But if you’re going after money just for money, right, or for power or for things that are, you know, kind of like that cocaine high, Right.
01:20:25:17 – 01:20:42:09
Tom McCarthy
If you’re going after it for that, yeah, you’re going to be pretty depressed. You’re going to have lots of uncertainty and you’re going to still feel fairly worthless at the end of the day, even though people will treat you nicer, like there’s going to be something inside of you that’s going nod you if you understand it’s just energy.
01:20:42:17 – 01:20:56:04
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. And you now are taking on energy that now you can create more with and and help more people out with. And it’s a beautiful thing and that’s the way that I’ve chosen to look at money.
01:20:56:13 – 01:21:21:11
Nathan Crane
That’s right Arturo used to tell me he said money just makes things bigger, you know, and he would he would make a couple of jokes about it. But he’s like one of the things was if you are a angry, depressed, jealous person, it’s going to make that bigger in your life, you will expand. You know, that will give you more opportunities to be more angry and jealous and etc. in bigger to more people or vice versa.
01:21:21:11 – 01:21:38:13
Nathan Crane
You’re a loving, caring, compassionate, generous. You make a lot of money. You can do a lot more good with that money. Right? Which is my my main focus and goal with generating as much wealth as I possibly can is not only the options and the freedom that comes from that, but the impact I can have in other people’s lives in a big way.
01:21:38:13 – 01:21:59:02
Nathan Crane
Because that’s what’s fulfilling is when you see that you can contribute in other people’s lives in any way. You know, driving driving back from the dentist this morning before our podcast, there was a man on the side of the road, a homeless man selling a newspaper here in Jacksonville. They actually have a the homeless shelter together, a newspaper.
01:21:59:02 – 01:21:59:16
Nathan Crane
I think once.
01:21:59:16 – 01:22:01:19
Tom McCarthy
You do that here in San Diego, too. Yeah. Yeah.
01:22:01:19 – 01:22:10:02
Nathan Crane
And it’s kind of just gives people insights into the challenges that the homeless are experiencing. Right. And so it’s like it’s an exchange of actually something.
01:22:10:14 – 01:22:14:07
Tom McCarthy
Which they’re adding value to. You’re not just giving it to them adding value.
01:22:14:07 – 01:22:27:00
Nathan Crane
So I start, you know, and it’s like I call him, Hey, come down here right now? Give me some money for that, for the thing. And, and it’s I forgot where I was going with that. We were talking about the.
01:22:27:15 – 01:22:29:10
Tom McCarthy
Way you look at money. Yeah.
01:22:29:10 – 01:22:56:16
Nathan Crane
And so, you know, like, that’s an energetic exchange something, something valuable and meaningful and fulfilling. I know it’s going towards, you know, they’re trying to do something good to raise awareness about the challenges that the homeless are going through. So it’s like, of course I want to support that. That’s a fulfilling thing. I take a percentage of all profits every single month from my company and donate it to nonprofits doing amazing work in cancer research and helping people struggling with cancer.
01:22:56:21 – 01:23:18:24
Nathan Crane
Right. That’s that’s a very fulfilling thing that you can do with money. But people tend to hoard money. And and it’s all for me and, you know, and they get that grasp on in their attachment to it that then that’s where those problems come from, because You know, it’s like money won’t make you happy even though you can be happier with money, right?
01:23:18:24 – 01:23:38:02
Nathan Crane
I mean, life is a lot easier when you have more money, no doubt about it. But if all of your happiness only comes from the money, you will never be truly fulfilled. Like, yeah, we have more options. We can travel, we can go to Costa Rica and go to Mexico, visit my wife’s family. Like those are meaningful, joyful experiences.
01:23:38:02 – 01:23:54:22
Nathan Crane
But the end of the day, you get back home and it’s like there’s there’s nothing that fulfillment doesn’t stick with you because of the money, right? It’s the impact that you have in other people’s lives. And that’s why I want to share with people tuning in here is like, find a way and this is what you do so well.
01:23:54:22 – 01:24:27:22
Nathan Crane
Tom, through your book to your coaching, to your summits, everything you do is find a way to contribute to other people’s lives in a positive way, somehow make a positive impact, whether it’s for the planet, for the animals, for humanity. But just one person’s life. Go, go volunteer at a local church or a soup kitchen or the homeless or, you know, like I volunteer my time on the I’m on the board of directors for a nonprofit, the Belgian Ski Foundation, and we do scientific research into natural cures for cancer.
01:24:28:05 – 01:24:40:08
Nathan Crane
And and I reached out to and said, Hey, I want to volunteer. And they’re like, well, how much money do you need? I was like, you know, I was like, I want to join your board. And you’re like, Well, what do you need to be on the board? I was like, No, I want to volunteer. Like, I love you guys are doing.
01:24:40:08 – 01:25:02:03
Nathan Crane
It’s very much in alignment with my passions in the world and you don’t need to pay me anything. I just want to help. And they were just taken aback. And so, you know, and so welcoming as well. So I’ve been on the board for a while now because, you know, again, it’s just contributing to important things in the world and helping other people is it brings you fulfillment in your life, right?
01:25:02:07 – 01:25:26:13
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. So a couple of things on that note. That was great, what you just said. So one is you want to make more money find a way to add more value. And you know, that’s why you see people that are the wealthiest people on the planet, they’re adding value now, sometimes they’re not always most enlightened people, But, you know, like Bill Gates for many years was the wealthiest person on the planet.
01:25:26:23 – 01:25:31:17
Tom McCarthy
And by the way, he’s doing a lot of good things for the planet I think. But I he.
01:25:32:05 – 01:25:34:15
Nathan Crane
I would I would challenge you heavily on that.
01:25:35:07 – 01:25:35:17
Tom McCarthy
Well.
01:25:36:11 – 01:25:41:03
Nathan Crane
We we could we could debate it. We could debate to the moon. But but anyway, go with your point.
01:25:41:15 – 01:26:00:01
Tom McCarthy
Yeah well I think but but things he’s doing for alternative energies and climate and things like that I think are pretty light. But anyways and we can Yeah, I’m not going to debate on it but anyways why was he the richest person on the planet? Well look what he did. He had software that was all on all our computers.
01:26:00:01 – 01:26:20:24
Tom McCarthy
We were writing emails with it. We were, you know, composing documents. We were doing our finances on spreadsheets. He was adding value to us. Elon Musk I don’t know if he still is, but briefly, was the wealthiest person on the planet. Well, what was he doing? Well, I’ve had seven Teslas right? I’ve been driving his cars for so many years.
01:26:21:08 – 01:26:37:12
Tom McCarthy
And you know what? You don’t have to be an Elon Musk to be a Bill Gates. But what can you do to add value? I remember Tony Robbins at first was just doing little seminars and then we got the rooms to be bigger. And then what did he do? You know, he he had written a book that got out.
01:26:37:12 – 01:26:54:20
Tom McCarthy
He wrote another book, he got on TV, and now he’s massively impacting people. But it was always, how can I add more value? What can you do to add more value? What can you do to add more value? That’s the number one question you need to be asking, right? So it’s not like, what can I do to make more money?
01:26:55:05 – 01:27:15:14
Tom McCarthy
How can I add more value? When you add more value, it’s a value exchange. You get money back. Second thing to think about is to be grateful for what you have already. If you’re not grateful for what you have, then you put yourself in a state of lack and gratitude. Is is just like evidence that you’re already receiving, you know, And you might go, My life sucks.
01:27:15:14 – 01:27:40:12
Tom McCarthy
No, you’ve got some things your life right now that people in other parts of the world would die to have. You know, you are very lucky in many, many ways. And so just be cognizant of that. And then, like you said, find ways to contribute and and find ways to contribute where no one else even knows. Like one of the things I do well, now people are going to know it because I don’t get to talk about it.
01:27:40:12 – 01:28:00:04
Tom McCarthy
But is when I travel because I travel a lot, I love to I to contribute to the underserved. They’re not mostly homeless, but the maids that come in and clean up the room after I messed it up, you know, for two days or three days, like, you know, they have a pretty tough job. And also, you know, they’re not getting paid that much.
01:28:00:04 – 01:28:27:10
Tom McCarthy
And they’re typically probably, you know, single moms or or people that live not in the greatest situations. And I don’t even know who they are. But what I always do is I’ll write a note to them and I’ll just say, you know, thank you. Thanks for taking care of me. Have a great day. I draw a smiley face and then typically I’ll write life as a blessing, and then I’ll take a fairly amount of money.
01:28:27:18 – 01:28:48:07
Tom McCarthy
Right? I’m not going to say what it is, but. But you always want to challenge your beliefs. Like, you know, if if a dollars a lot amount is a amount of money for you, then then leave $2, Right. But challenge your belief system, knowing that whatever goes out comes back. And then what I do is I take that amount of money and I put it in my hands and I’m blessed with energy.
01:28:48:07 – 01:29:11:04
Tom McCarthy
I see it. I see it. Not even the amount of money it is. I see it being, you know, millions of dollars going out to this person and their family and their community. And because money is just energy. So really, you know, that amount of energy going out to them. And I just blessed and I put it on that note and I leave and I never get to see what happens with it.
01:29:11:04 – 01:29:18:15
Tom McCarthy
But I just feel so good, right. Because, you know, you’ve done something where you’ve impacted somebody. Yeah.
01:29:19:09 – 01:29:27:04
Nathan Crane
Yeah. That’s beautiful. Remind me to ask your assistant what your travel schedule is this next year, and I’ll.
01:29:27:11 – 01:29:28:03
Tom McCarthy
Put it in my room.
01:29:28:12 – 01:29:34:23
Nathan Crane
I’ll send someone to clean all the rooms. Well, we’ll cut a percentage of it together.
01:29:34:23 – 01:29:36:05
Tom McCarthy
It’s not enough money.
01:29:36:05 – 01:29:36:15
Nathan Crane
We’re, you.
01:29:38:17 – 01:29:39:01
Tom McCarthy
Know.
01:29:39:08 – 01:30:00:24
Nathan Crane
I’m kidding. I love. I love that. You know, I love the intention behind it, the practice behind it, all of it. And you can do that. I mean, anybody tuning in, it’s like you can do that. Like you said, any amount of a dollar is a lot. You you know, I remember I literally had like $10 to my name at some point.
01:30:00:24 – 01:30:21:24
Nathan Crane
And it was like all I had in my wallet. And you know, a homeless person asked me for money and it was like I had a big awakening. There was like, Oh, this is all I have. I was like, But they have less than me. Yeah. And, and there’s infinite, like literally, I mean, almost an infinite amount of money in this world, right?
01:30:22:11 – 01:30:40:14
Nathan Crane
So it can come back to me. And so I’m not, I’m not going to worry about it. I’m going to help this person out with no attachment, no expectation. I don’t know. It doesn’t have to come back to me. And it was like I literally gave them like my last $10 and last in that moment. But it’s never last because there’s always more, right?
01:30:40:14 – 01:30:57:22
Nathan Crane
There’s this infinite abundance that we can tap into and tune into. And that was, that was a really early, like practice into reforming my beliefs about money. Right. And that’s, that’s what it takes is like those practices those experiences that we talk about. So I wanna talk about two things next one.
01:30:58:23 – 01:31:15:03
Tom McCarthy
Though, really quick, One thing with homeless, I have a little different strategy because I’ve I’ve done the money thing enough or you know people at the gas station were like, hey, we ran out of gas. We’re I mean, I just and then and then I see them like go in and buy some six pack of beer or something.
01:31:15:13 – 01:31:19:17
Tom McCarthy
So what I do with homeless people though is I buy them food or groceries. Oh, you.
01:31:19:17 – 01:31:21:08
Nathan Crane
Know, like I do it to.
01:31:21:08 – 01:31:43:22
Tom McCarthy
I say come out, you know, and it’s it’s by McDonald’s. I don’t eat at McDonald’s, but I go, you know, come on in. You know, what do you want in? And sometimes go nice. They didn’t want to get they were they actually had eaten. Yeah. So I do that strategy with them. But what I like to do is reward and for me, you know, the maids, because they’re working, they’re out there actually working.
01:31:43:23 – 01:32:04:18
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. Probably not getting compensated. And so if I leave $100 bill or something like that, like that’s going to be a big for them. And also I was inspired by it in my book, The Breakthrough Code, The Mentors, one of the mentors names, I have a very diverse set of mentors which I wanted to make sure I did not just, you know, a white guy, right?
01:32:04:18 – 01:32:24:02
Tom McCarthy
You know, a middle aged white guy helping people out. But one of the mentors names is Bob Woodbury, who actually was a friend of my dad’s. He was in the military with my dad. My dad did some things that really helped him out. And so when my dad died, he a lot people wrote my mom letters because my dad was very loud.
01:32:24:02 – 01:32:52:00
Tom McCarthy
But he wrote a letter saying, I want to send one of your kids through college and, you know, want to make sure we keep in touch. And every Christmas he sent us, we had no money. He sent us each my my brothers and I $1 bill. And that was a fortune to us like it made our month. And so that he taught me that, right.
01:32:52:00 – 01:32:58:00
Tom McCarthy
You know. And so what I do is kind of an extension of what I’ve been told. So sorry for interrupting you, but I just wanted to bring that up.
01:32:58:04 – 01:33:15:11
Nathan Crane
No, that’s beautiful. Yeah. Thank you for sharing. And I. I’ve gone back and forth with the homeless piece, right? And I’ve come to a place where because I was homeless three times in my life before I, was in my early twenties. So one, I know what it’s like to be homeless and it sucks. And it’s very challenging to.
01:33:15:11 – 01:33:36:18
Nathan Crane
I know what it’s like. Literally, that story you just said I was in Venice Beach, ran out of gas, no money, $0. Had to go beg people at the gas station for gas money to get back home. Like I’ve been in those situations. And so I know that those those are real. And then there are made up ones and there are people who really need food and support and things like that.
01:33:36:19 – 01:33:53:01
Nathan Crane
Not people who just want to fuel their their drug, their drug habit. And so one thing I’ve done with homeless always is if I feel compelled, if I see a homeless person, it’s like I always want to help them some way. If I have food, I’ll give them food first. If I have money, I’ll give them money. Yeah, I see somebody on the side of the road that’s like tweaking out.
01:33:53:01 – 01:34:09:12
Nathan Crane
It looks like they’re totally high. You know, I. I often won’t give them money. I will either give them food or not give them anything. It’s like I know they’re just looking for the next trip, but what I, what I started practicing doing years and years ago in San Diego was any money that I give to a homeless person.
01:34:09:12 – 01:34:35:19
Nathan Crane
It’s like I put the blessings into it. Yeah, but this may help them in the greatest way possible. Help them find health, happiness, wholeness get out of their challenges. Right. And whatever they do with this, it’s going to be good for them at some point, even if they go buy drugs or alcohol or whatever with this money, I let go of the attachment to that and I it and I send them good energy that they may find their way out of that struggle.
01:34:36:02 – 01:34:58:10
Nathan Crane
And I you know, it’s like whether they do or not, I feel good about doing that. And at the same time, I know, hey, there are maybe other things you can do to support, you know, other causes that you care about. Maybe it’s donating to a nonprofit. Maybe it’s actually donating to a shelter that’s helping, you know, take care of homeless people, whatever, whatever it might be.
01:34:58:10 – 01:35:19:02
Nathan Crane
But that’s just kind of where I’ve come to do, you know, in dealing with that, because I remember being, you know, and talking about belief systems. I was in San Diego, Embarcadero, I out on the boardwalk where all the ships are selling t shirts because I lost all belief in myself. I the story for another time and I basically lost.
01:35:19:18 – 01:36:00:19
Nathan Crane
I went from being like a high powered sales director of multiple locations, managing, hiring, firing dozens of people on multiple locations all around San Diego. Youngest highest paid regional sales director for for T-Mobile subsidiary company like 19 years old and I went from that appeared to like this huge mental emotional transformation to then basically having zero belief in myself and here I am, you know, going from like making six figures a year at like 19 to then like 20 making $20 a selling t shirts, you know, next to the next to the shipyard in San Diego.
01:36:01:02 – 01:36:15:14
Nathan Crane
But the homeless that live there permanently, I would talk to them and I would try and teach them skills and things like that. But I find out like what? You know, how are you? What’s your belief system around being homeless? Like, I was homeless, but I got myself out of it like I never thought I was going to be that way permanently.
01:36:15:14 – 01:36:39:07
Nathan Crane
And I never allowed myself to because my belief system was like, This is temporary. I’m going to, you know, find a way out of this. So what I call solution oriented mindset. But often people like these people were homeless for 30 years. Yeah, 30 plus years. And the belief was, this is this is how my life is. This is how it has been and this is how it’s always going to be.
01:36:39:18 – 01:36:56:01
Nathan Crane
Yeah. And so in that case, take a look at that belief and maybe take it. You know, you can take a look at our own lives and go, where do we have that belief in our own lives, with health, with finances, with relationship, whatever. This is the way it’s always been, this way. It’s always going to be, but it doesn’t have to be that way.
01:36:56:01 – 01:37:04:15
Nathan Crane
We can change that. As you’re talking about and teaching and writing about. We can be the creators of our life. We can our destinies.
01:37:04:23 – 01:37:33:06
Tom McCarthy
We are the creators of our life. We can create a better life. I’ve spent time with homeless people, too, and one of the things I found is some of them are talented and they’re super resourceful. Like they find ways to survive. Like, you know, like we, you know, we would struggle to be human because you’ve been there. But I would struggle to do and but they have often and not the ones that have I’m not talking about the ones that have mental issues.
01:37:33:06 – 01:37:50:16
Tom McCarthy
And then many have, you know, drug problems. But there are some out there that that I met who I don’t want to live in a house. Right? I don’t want to have to have rules and structure and and stuff like that. And they have their own little community is out there now. Why is that? I mean, I don’t know if they’re truly happy.
01:37:50:16 – 01:38:07:05
Tom McCarthy
Maybe they are, but they have a limiting belief that if I go back and they even tell me I used to have a job, you know, I didn’t like it right. Or I got fired and I didn’t want to go get another one or I had a I had a house, I got divorced and I don’t want to have all that responsibility anymore.
01:38:07:11 – 01:38:29:19
Tom McCarthy
These are all the types of things that a lot of us have in us that hold us back. And so when we lift that veil and go down in the superconscious and pluck those out, which takes work, it takes work and there’s lots of processes we haven’t really discussed any many here, but when you do that, it frees you up, it frees up your potential and there’s no telling what you can accomplish.
01:38:30:01 – 01:38:50:00
Tom McCarthy
You’re a good example of it. I mean, look, you, you know, you were on the streets, you had issues with drugs and alcohol, and now you’re one of the most enlightened beings that I know. And, you know, raising incredible kids and and helping people conquer cancer. I mean, just doing such unbelievable things. You are you are proof in the pudding of what we’re talking about.
01:38:50:24 – 01:38:59:02
Nathan Crane
Mm. Oh, thank you for that. Can, can we go back and say that again and I’ll have you say it to my wife. You tell her I’m one of the most enlightened beings.
01:38:59:02 – 01:39:04:17
Tom McCarthy
I’m sure she knows that. Jill, you’ve got an amazing, incredibly amazing wife.
01:39:04:22 – 01:39:16:22
Nathan Crane
Yeah, No, I’m just kidding. Because it’s, you know, it’s it’s the same thing. Is this ever every time I think I’ve figured things out with myself. It’s like, Oh, there’s something else to work on. Oh, there’s something else I got to hear.
01:39:16:22 – 01:39:25:12
Tom McCarthy
This is all the same. And if you’re a person who learns and grows, you’re going to have that. So that’s the that’s the beauty of life. Yeah.
01:39:26:02 – 01:39:50:24
Nathan Crane
And I and I enjoy it and I welcome it and I look forward to it. And I do it every day. It’s like it’s a part of my life now. It’s like, okay, there. I just reacted in this way. Where’s that coming from? Let me let me figure that out. So let’s talk about that. What’s your one of your top ways to to go into the subconscious where you go super conscious and help, you know, heal and transform some of these traumas or limiting belief systems?
01:39:50:24 – 01:40:03:06
Nathan Crane
Like you said, there’s tons of ways to do it. I’ve experimented with many and many of them. There’s some that I really like and enjoy. I know you teach and you like some yourself, but maybe share one that you think is super powerful.
01:40:03:13 – 01:40:37:23
Tom McCarthy
Well, this this one is not the easiest because you really have to develop kind of your intuition a little bit and trust yourself, be very vulnerable. But one of the ones that I do that I learned from an intuitive was to, well, first of all, when you notice you’re not feeling right or you notice you reacted in a certain way or you notice you’re not getting the result that you want going into getting into like a relaxed state and going into your super conscious, right.
01:40:37:23 – 01:40:57:05
Tom McCarthy
And just saying, Hey, why is this showing up and where is it coming from? And you’re going to get little blips like are you? If you ask what age what age did this first start? Right. That’s a question I ask sometimes. And you’re going to, you know, an angel pop in your mind. You. Oh, that couldn’t be right.
01:40:57:05 – 01:41:20:03
Tom McCarthy
Right. You know, and but trust yourself. Just really be open. Those little blips are inside of your super conscious, right of your mind trying to give you information. We say, I was just my imagination. Winston said, Imagination is everything. Your imagination is real, right? When we’re visualizing something, we’re just using our imagination to see it real inside. So it’s great on the outside.
01:41:20:15 – 01:41:44:19
Tom McCarthy
So I had something this morning where I forgot what it was, but what I felt I woke up, I was feeling something. I was feeling some resistance towards something that I wanted to move towards. And I’m like, All right, where is this coming from? Like, what age did this first originate? And the age was 22. Just a 22 popped in my head.
01:41:45:01 – 01:42:02:20
Tom McCarthy
I didn’t know was it really 22? You know how it be 22. I just trusted it. And so I went back to my 22 year old self and so I saw my 22 year old self off to the side. Sometimes I go back to my three year old self or one year old self or whatever, right? It’s whatever I’m dictated to go to.
01:42:02:20 – 01:42:21:21
Tom McCarthy
And this 22 year old self, I start to say I didn’t see the super clearly don’t need to just felt like, here’s my 22 year old self and I just talked with him. I said, Hey, you know, it seems like you’re hanging on to something here and would you be willing to let go of it? And you know, I’m your future self.
01:42:21:21 – 01:42:38:20
Tom McCarthy
I’m your 62 year old self. I’m 40 years old. Right? We we’re okay, by the way. We made it. Would you be willing to let go of this and and then, you know. Yeah. And then what I did is now sometimes this is going to be a little weird for people, but I call in like guides, or entities, but you don’t have to do that.
01:42:39:06 – 01:43:05:08
Tom McCarthy
And, and, and so what I do is I imagine it being almost like a vacuum sucking this black dark stuff out. Like, that’s the way I visualize learning to believe. And I just I’m not in that body, but I’m seeing it and feeling it, being like there is a movie, I think, called The Long Green Mile or the Green Mile or Same Mile.
01:43:05:09 – 01:43:09:24
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Tom Hanks, Remember Guy, I read that book when it first came out and it was like.
01:43:09:24 – 01:43:37:01
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, there was this beautiful person that was like, But taking on all the negative energy for world. And then it came out though it came out at one point, I can’t remember why it was like this black just gunk coming out of him and so I see this gunk coming out of my younger self. And and oftentimes when I’m and I and I almost it’s almost like this vacuum, like sucking it out.
01:43:37:01 – 01:43:58:06
Tom McCarthy
So that’s my distillation. You don’t have to do it like that. And when it’s coming out, sometimes I’ll feel like a little when you’re tingle of like this freeing up sensation in me. And so I see it coming out and then I’ll say, Is it all out? And sometimes no. So there’s still some in there. I see some darkness in there and I okay, let’s do some more, get it all out.
01:43:58:14 – 01:44:21:23
Tom McCarthy
And when it’s all out, I’m like, and by the way, when it was coming out and it’s dark, I see it been transformed. Light, light. Because energy can be shifted from negative to positive, from dark to light. And so I don’t want to have this dark energy coming and coming out into the world, right? So I see it being transformed into white, beautiful, creative light.
01:44:22:10 – 01:44:41:13
Tom McCarthy
And and then when it’s all out, because now we’ve created a void in that earlier version of ourselves, I take that energy and we we this white light, beautiful, creative energy. And we it back in to fill that void. That’s very important to do right. Whenever you take energy out, you want to put back in good energy in your mind.
01:44:41:24 – 01:45:01:21
Tom McCarthy
And and then I bring that younger version and I bring him into myself and I was like, Are you ready? I’m going to bring you into my self. And I create like a little filter to make sure that God is just visualize it. But I bring and again, I don’t see it super clearly, but I feel it like coming back in and like, Wow, I feel lighter.
01:45:01:21 – 01:45:13:23
Tom McCarthy
I feel fresher now that might be too weird for some people, but that really works for me and that’s just one of the techniques. But to me, that’s one of the more powerful ones that I do.
01:45:13:23 – 01:45:35:24
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that’s, that’s, that’s a really powerful technique. I’ve I’ve experienced some very like similar versions of that. I call that work just inquiry or self, right where it’s like you get to a meditative state, you got something that’s really like irking you or you’re trying to find a solution to you’re having a big challenge with get into a meditation in and then just start asking questions.
01:45:36:00 – 01:45:36:22
Tom McCarthy
Be a detective.
01:45:37:00 – 01:45:55:16
Nathan Crane
Yeah, And trust and trust when the answers pop because they do, like you said, don’t doubt them like where is this coming from and why? And it’s like, Oh, you might see a picture of your mom or your dad or you might see, you know, it depends how you are. Like, I’m two things. I’m very visual, very visual person.
01:45:55:16 – 01:46:13:05
Nathan Crane
So in meditations or when I’m doing that inquiry work about something, oftentimes I’ll just kind of get a little like a faint image, something. Yeah, yeah, almost. See, like I might see my mom or my see my dad or I might see myself as a kid or something. And it’s like it’s not a real clear image, but it’s it’s the energy of it, right?
01:46:13:05 – 01:46:32:16
Nathan Crane
Like, I know that’s what it is. I sometimes. Yeah, Yeah. And then sometimes I’ll hear it because people think like, oh, if I don’t see a perfectly drawn exact version of this or have this voice, it’s so clear to me then it’s not there’s not real. And no, it’s sometimes it’s a very faint thing, right? It’s just like, it’s like a one word.
01:46:32:16 – 01:46:55:10
Nathan Crane
It’s like, Yeah. Oh, oh. Okay. And if you start following that, well, what does that mean? Where does that come from? And keep asking questions like what I find is so powerful, you get to the root of what’s going on very quickly and it’s very much like hypnotherapy. But this is self-hypnosis or self hypnotherapy you can do to get to the root cause of your problems.
01:46:55:10 – 01:47:05:19
Nathan Crane
And you can actually do basically ten years of talk therapy in like an hour of just self inquiry, kind of self hypnotherapy type of work.
01:47:05:21 – 01:47:22:14
Tom McCarthy
Most people are afraid to go there, though. They’re afraid to go down in there. I used to be afraid to go down there. I just I just stay positive. Stay positive. No, I dive into the fire. Right. Go into the limiting belief for the negativity or the fear and and then start to just, you know, figure out where it came or not.
01:47:22:20 – 01:47:32:02
Tom McCarthy
You don’t even know exactly where it came from, but. But maybe know what age it was and then free it up and that younger version of you. Yeah. And it’s it’s so amazing.
01:47:32:02 – 01:47:34:18
Nathan Crane
Have you done the work with Byron, Katy? Have you done.
01:47:34:18 – 01:47:40:17
Tom McCarthy
Hers? I know of it, but I don’t do as much on that. You know, this process. I really like what one thing.
01:47:41:06 – 01:48:01:23
Nathan Crane
I’ve done it a few times and it’s really, really powerful. I’ve had some big ahas and transformations that like healing from doing that. And it’s for people who don’t know the work, it’s it’s for questions. It’s a very simple process and it’s it’s a very powerful way to get into the subconscious and help heal some of these traumas or limiting beliefs.
01:48:02:07 – 01:48:23:21
Tom McCarthy
I become from doing all this stuff. I become pretty intuitive, like and I get actually, here’s the thing. Yeah, this I was talking to this fourth generation intuitive and her belief and she was a registered nurse and this a medical intuitive, but her belief is that we’re all born intuitive to be intuitive, but we talk our kids out of it.
01:48:23:21 – 01:48:42:09
Tom McCarthy
You know, a kid would say, Hey, you know, I got this imaginary friend. Oh, you know, there’s no such thing as imaginary friend. What do you you you’re one of those crazy people, right? Then you’re like, you know, you’re just like we’re taught, like the triggering mechanism, like, you know, we’re all we all as kids do it. And then it’s like, Hey, come on, be a man or bla, you know, be a big girl, right?
01:48:42:16 – 01:49:13:17
Tom McCarthy
You know, you don’t need to, you know, tremor, right? Come on, buck up. And then we lose these things. But I have this. I’ve had this ability actually, I’ve had it for since childhood where I can ask a question and I do things like dowsing to to get answers. But I can ask a question and I’ll get like a little if it’s a pot, if it’s a yes, I’ll get like a little shiver will actually like my stomach will just, you know, shiver and tighten up a little bit and it’s I don’t know if it’s 100% accurate, but it’s doggone close.
01:49:13:17 – 01:49:24:18
Tom McCarthy
And so it’s kind of cool when you develop these tools to be able to know, like, what’s right and what you know, which action you should take and which one isn’t probably the best action to take.
01:49:25:05 – 01:49:46:05
Nathan Crane
You know, speaking on that, that’s a really cool tool that you developed. So I, I trained my mind, subconscious mind. Yeah. Whatever part of my mind to, to give me a green light or a red light like when I would like so I would see it right again. Visual. So I would see green or red if I’m asking like yes or no, should I go this direction or that one is like, I see a light now.
01:49:46:05 – 01:50:04:08
Nathan Crane
It’s just I can go into like a just a few minute meditation ask, you know, is this, is this right? And then it’s just like, yes or no. It’s like it’s more of a feeling and it’s very fast and it’s you learn. The more you practice these things, the more the easier it becomes. Right? At first there’s so much self doubt.
01:50:04:08 – 01:50:29:10
Nathan Crane
Is this working? Am I doing it right? Is this some, you know, spiritual woo woo bullshit crap that does? It’s like, but the more you do it and then you get confirmation of confirmation of confirmation, you get hundreds or thousands of confirmations because you did the thing. You asked the question, they said, yes, go in this direction. You in that direction like everything worked out perfectly right or like or you don’t listen to it.
01:50:29:10 – 01:50:35:14
Nathan Crane
Well, have you ever done that where it’s like, no, don’t do that, And then you do it anyway, and then everything falls apart and it’s terrible. It’s like.
01:50:35:21 – 01:50:51:03
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, you have things that you have to do though, too. And this is what I found myself because I’m such a positive thinker. I try to like, almost rig the answer right now. I want this video. You literally have to kind of say, I want the truth. Like tell you the truth, not just I want, because otherwise we will.
01:50:51:10 – 01:51:16:18
Tom McCarthy
Whatever system we use it, it’s my stomach. Or there’s a great thing called the sway test, where you stand, that you stand just of in the middle, and then you ask a question. If it’s a yes, he’ll tend to sway forward. If it’s a no, you’ll tend to sway backwards. But you have to kind of almost, almost like disembodied yourself and just almost see, you’re like looking down at yourself and like, have no no dog in the fight, so to speak.
01:51:16:18 – 01:51:21:04
Tom McCarthy
Right where you’re willing to take whatever it is because it’s going to be the right answer and the truth.
01:51:21:12 – 01:51:57:09
Nathan Crane
And I think that’s really it. Like one of my early mentors, really. One of the things you really helped me with was become like, very passionate about finding the truth and where I mean the truth, like the whole truth, the full truth, the, the like, the purest truth possible of any situation. And so I think having that belief system that drives you like I wanna know the truth about myself, my own beliefs, my own limiting my own, you know, it’s like whatever’s going on with this diet for cancer, for example, it’s like, I want to know the whole truth about that.
01:51:57:09 – 01:52:27:06
Nathan Crane
Not whatever my bias is, you know, lead me in that direction. It’s like, show me everything I want and I want to know the entire truth. And I think being a truth seeker is something that our children are not taught today, right? In schools, they’re taught, look, this this is why I got in trouble in school zone, because I would debate with the teachers about I’m like, well, that doesn’t make sense, you know, or like this is an accurate or some some dude 300 years ago said that this is the way that grammar supposed to be.
01:52:27:06 – 01:52:42:06
Nathan Crane
But what if I want to write it this way, this is my truth, you know. And so they get into these debates and, and it was so rigid, there was no room for understanding a bigger picture of of other people’s truths that it you know, it’s like one of the reasons.
01:52:42:06 – 01:52:44:23
Tom McCarthy
Any teachers that you’re probably oh, you’re with that kid.
01:52:44:23 – 01:53:02:07
Nathan Crane
And I was like, yeah, yeah, exactly. I had one, I had one teacher and she was an English teacher, grammar teacher. And, you know, she’d give me like a D on a paper, and then I’d go sit and I’d make my case. And I’m like, Well, look, I wrote this way because this and I did this because of this.
01:53:02:07 – 01:53:13:16
Nathan Crane
And I believe that this is this. And I would make a case for why I did what I did and she was one of, one of my only teachers. I think maybe I had a couple my whole to.
01:53:13:17 – 01:53:14:05
Tom McCarthy
Do that.
01:53:14:06 – 01:53:29:21
Nathan Crane
No child who would let me debate. And then she would she would actually listen and go, you know what? Even though this goes against the principles, you know, that were taught and whatever, it makes sense. And so I’m going to give you I’m going to move you up to give you up to a B, I’m gonna move you up to a B.
01:53:30:01 – 01:53:48:04
Nathan Crane
I’m like, well, he’s better in a DBA. This is definitely worth than a she wouldn’t give me an H, but she would at least move it up to a B because, because I made a really good case and because she was willing to listen, you know? Yeah. So it’s like conformity to an ideal G just because this is the way it’s always been done.
01:53:48:12 – 01:54:12:06
Nathan Crane
That’s the thing. I’ve always like, you know, kind of head butted against because there’s so many different ways to do everything that I think it’s like the old saying that there’s a million paths to God, right? It’s not one tradition, one spiritual belief, one religion that’s going to get you to God. I really believe there’s a million paths for each of us to find our own connection with with God and.
01:54:12:07 – 01:54:36:03
Tom McCarthy
God of firmness in in what we believe, but but an openness to look at other things. I think some people are so open, they get dragged down, you know, rabbit holes and, you know, different theories. And they, you know, they buy into it and then their whole life is run by theories that are made up. You know, not all of them made up, but some are just made up by people on either side of an issue.
01:54:36:03 – 01:54:55:20
Tom McCarthy
Right. So I think that’s where you need to go inside and see what what’s really true for me, you know, not what did I read or what is this person saying? What is true, true for me. And that’s where your intuition can be a great guide for, you know, red light, green light, or for me, yes or no.
01:54:57:07 – 01:55:08:13
Nathan Crane
So so what’s next for you, Tom? What’s coming up? You’ve got you’ve got the book, The Breakthrough Code you just released that people can can get that anywhere online, right? Amazon.
01:55:09:00 – 01:55:12:21
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, Amazon. We’ve got a master class for it to.
01:55:13:05 – 01:55:15:12
Nathan Crane
Where’s the math? Where’s the master class? Where can people.
01:55:15:12 – 01:55:37:17
Tom McCarthy
Get this all online. So it’s it’s 14 videos that I did for the book we give away the first four for free. I then there’s a code and a web address and a book that you just can go to. And I get the first four for free. And then if people want beyond that, then they can. They can.
01:55:37:20 – 01:56:02:06
Tom McCarthy
I think at the end of the fourth one, there’s a way to continue on it, the training. So that’s a lot of fun. We’ve been getting amazing results. People tell us about this. So that’s been really, really rewarding because as I wrote the book, there’s there’s it’s not a biography, but there’s part of me in there and I wrote it with the intention of really helping people live a life without limits.
01:56:02:06 – 01:56:20:22
Tom McCarthy
I mean, that really is something that I want to see more people do because I think most of us are, you know, running around with too many limits and too many too many inhibitions and really kind of half the life we can live. And I don’t like seeing that. So I wrote that book for that. And then I will have a podcast.
01:56:20:22 – 01:56:35:05
Tom McCarthy
We’re starting to we’re going to be filming up in studio in Los Angeles actually this week. And so we’re going to have some great guests on what these days want to have you on, and that will be coming out over the course of the next couple of months, too.
01:56:36:00 – 01:56:43:14
Nathan Crane
That’s exciting. So so to get to the Masterclass, people by the book and then in the book will take them to the master class.
01:56:43:14 – 01:56:56:00
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. Yeah. And the book, Best Place to Get is on Amazon and you can read the reviews. It’s got a lot of really great reviews. I think the lowest we have is the three star no hope. I didn’t jinx myself there, but I’m.
01:56:56:03 – 01:56:59:12
Nathan Crane
I’m sorry. That was. I apologize about that one. I’ll go correct that.
01:56:59:18 – 01:57:21:21
Tom McCarthy
That was, you know, five star reviews and and and just really hearing great stories, you know, like, because it’s a parable. It’s a story you can read. So it’s a little easier to get through than just to how to book. And you you kind of live through a character that’s experiencing these things and it’s not a magic bullet.
01:57:21:21 – 01:57:48:07
Tom McCarthy
Oh, I learned it. Bam, here I am. Like, you know what’s life is not like that. It’s it’s even if you create a result, that is a huge breakthrough. That’s life changing. That’s that’s what I call a breakthrough result, by the way, something that shifts you in such a way. You see more possibilities in life. You’re going to look around and go, oh, well, this area of my life, though, I’m still stuck and okay, apply the process there and and create a life changing result in that area.
01:57:48:24 – 01:58:13:15
Tom McCarthy
The the the breakthrough result cause you to think at a level you’re not thinking at right now. Create a story that in your head you don’t have right now take actions you don’t take right now. And the result, the true breakthrough result, is not just a little incremental hire. It should be something where it’s so challenging that you have no idea how the heck you’re going to get there when you first come up with it.
01:58:14:19 – 01:58:38:08
Nathan Crane
I love that. Yeah, It’s like that’s one thing I find of having goals that are so like almost what I call an impossible goal. Like sometimes if I told somebody my goal is big, that’s impossible, right? Like, that’s just not even possible. It’s like, I like that because, you know, I know a lot of people are scared that but I like it and being committed to it because it actually drives me every single day to do what it takes to achieve that.
01:58:38:16 – 01:58:46:11
Nathan Crane
You know, with my mind, my emotion, my, my actions. I think that’s huge. Having a big goal that drives you forward every day.
01:58:46:24 – 01:59:06:04
Tom McCarthy
And calling on the energies outside yourself, like, come on, help me out. You know, we have zebra out there, light come through me, work through me. And the other thing I would say, I don’t like the word goal because people have heard about goals, they’ve had goals, They’ve achieved some they’ve not achieved others. The mind has a little bit of a mixed feeling about a goal.
01:59:06:12 – 01:59:29:19
Tom McCarthy
So that’s why I use that word result. Like, you know, everybody say the word goal out loud. Who are you? Nathan? Goal. Okay, so has for you might have a good feeling now say the word result. Result Yeah. So result is something that’s already been achieved. And so you’re almost like gamifying the you know, you’re, you’re putting something in your mind that, that a result.
01:59:29:19 – 01:59:40:08
Tom McCarthy
Yeah. That’s Happened And so we start to do you know, use the power of words to actually give ourselves more power going towards it. So I call it a breakthrough result, not a breakthrough goal.
01:59:40:08 – 01:59:55:11
Nathan Crane
I like that. Yeah, I like that because it’s my goals. You know, I call a goal because that’s just the language so constant. But my goals are like when I’m thinking about it’s like it’s not a goal. My mind, it’s the same thing. It’s like I visualize myself achieving it every single day in the mirror, right in the mirror.
01:59:55:11 – 02:00:14:16
Nathan Crane
I have a limitation when I’m brushing my teeth. I do a little affirmation, a little qigong practice, and then I see myself actually experiencing that goal in my in my vision. Yeah. And again, it’s like it’s not a goal. It’s like it’s something it’s an embodiment. It’s an experience, right? I feel it. I get into the energy of it.
02:00:14:19 – 02:00:33:22
Nathan Crane
I see myself experiencing it, and I don’t even see it as like, Oh yeah, it’s like I need to make this much money this year, whatever. Like there’s a financial goal. It’s not like that. It’s it’s more like a life, you know, a life experience. So I love it. Yeah. You call it a or a breakthrough result because you’re, you’re visioning yourself actually experiencing.
02:00:33:22 – 02:00:39:17
Tom McCarthy
Something I achieved already. Yeah. Even though it’s not happening, I’ve already achieved it. Right. So, yeah, so.
02:00:40:15 – 02:00:44:17
Nathan Crane
Well, Tom, this has been awesome.
02:00:45:12 – 02:00:47:13
Tom McCarthy
Yeah, I really enjoyed it. Great. Great hanging out with you.
02:00:47:19 – 02:01:20:20
Nathan Crane
Thanks for doing this. And everybody tune in and get a copy of the Breakthrough Code. Fantastic book I’m going to give you. I’m going to give you a five and a half star review on Amazon right now to now I do encourage everyone to read the book. And knowing you, Tom, as I have, I think the last couple of years now, like just you, the one thing I want to say about you for everybody tuning in is that, you know, Tom is truly someone who lives by what he teaches.
02:01:20:20 – 02:01:52:04
Nathan Crane
He is you meet him in person and he’s the same in person as you see him on his interviews in his book. And how he writes teaches like you embody what you teach, you live by what you share with others, how to do, how to improve their lives, their businesses, their health. You live that every single day. And that’s that’s kind of rare in today’s personal development, self-help leadership world, right, where some people may have read a ton of stuff and may have taken workshops and classes and things like that, but they’re not really living what they every single day.
02:01:52:14 – 02:02:07:22
Nathan Crane
And you do you live what you teach. You’re an amazing leader, a great mentor, an incredibly inspirational, funny, very caring. And I’m just deeply honored to to call you a friend, a colleague, a brother. And I appreciate you, man. So thank.
02:02:07:22 – 02:02:23:22
Tom McCarthy
You. Thank you. I see the same thing in you. You really you live up to everything that you teach and you are. Even though you’re my chef, I’m going to be your inspiration to me. And I do my best. I do my best to try and live up to it. I again, I was a perfectionist when I was younger.
02:02:23:22 – 02:02:42:12
Tom McCarthy
I think just all we need to do is do our best. You know, we’re going to make little mistakes and everything that I’m good at. And then I teach be something I used to suck at. Like I you know, the stuff I’m talking about today that we’re talking about today. I used to have like not much confidence, a lot of fear when I learned something, I want to share it.
02:02:42:21 – 02:03:08:00
Tom McCarthy
And, you know, I wasn’t a very good leader when I first was leading Tony Robbins sales organization. I had to figure it out. I learned it. I want to share it. I wasn’t a very good speaker. I have so shy and had anxiety, and so I learned how to do that. And I want to share it. I think you do the same and I am blessed to have you in my life and I’m looking forward to seeing you in person next month or while.
02:03:08:13 – 02:03:15:07
Nathan Crane
Yeah it’s coming up quick. Yeah, Well, awesome. Thanks, Tom. Thanks so much. Take care.
02:03:16:01 – 02:03:16:23
Tom McCarthy
Okay. Take care.