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00:00:00:09 – 00:00:45:16
Nathan Crane
Hey, welcome back to the podcast. I am joined today by Mr. Justin Fradson, who is a performance coach and founder of Athleticism Tor.com. He’s also the author of Athleticism Whole Body Plus Whole Brain Equals Performance. Over 25 years, he’s done nerve work, nerve work for sports performance. Amateur and professional athletes in most major sports treats concussions. Justin The thing I was reading about you that I find really interesting is your focus on helping people improve health and performance through, you know, light, sound frequency, you know, an energetic approach and seeing how destructive EMFs are to our health.

00:00:45:17 – 00:01:08:16
Nathan Crane
We have a lot of science as a as a cancer researcher for nearly the last almost 12 years now. You know, a tremendous amount of science on EMFs and and how they can, you know, damage DNA and damaged mitochondria and cause chronic inflammation and can contribute towards cancer and other chronic inflammatory diseases. And whether it’s cell phones, it’s wi fi towers, it’s wi fi routers in your home.

00:01:08:16 – 00:01:28:22
Nathan Crane
Right? All these kinds of things. We we see you know, there’s a lot of science and people still believe, oh, this stuff doesn’t cause cancer. Oh, my gosh. We have a tremendous amount of of evidence that actually it may be contributing towards way more cancer than than people think. But also, like, what do we do about it? How do we shield ourselves?

00:01:28:22 – 00:01:47:07
Nathan Crane
How do we keep ourselves healthy like we’re using wi fi right now or we’re using Internet right now? You know, I’ve got my phone over here. I’ve got it’s like that’s how we’re communicating with the world. So we use this stuff every day. It’s, it’s practical, it’s useful, it’s a great tool. But at the same time, it really, you know, people who are sensitive, it really affects them.

00:01:47:07 – 00:02:05:08
Nathan Crane
I know. I know people Loyd Bureau, I’ve interviewed over the years for my summits, you know, he he started getting, you know, EMF pollution was like causing him so many health problems. And once he realized what it was, he was able to to, you know, put some steps in place to help prevent that and help his body heal.

00:02:05:08 – 00:02:37:20
Nathan Crane
And now he knows how to deal with any educates thousands, thousands of people about it. So anyway, I find it really fascinating that you’ve you know, you’ve also come to that approach over the years and through athletic performance and helping people improve recovery and health as athletes. So anyway, welcome to the podcast and I’m excited to learn more about you, your work, what you do and, you know, help people realize what can they do to keep themselves healthy in this world that we’re surrounded by so much electromagnetic pollution and radiation.

00:02:38:19 – 00:02:40:13
Justin Frandson
Awesome. Nathan, thanks for having me on.

00:02:41:16 – 00:02:49:17
Nathan Crane
So what got you into like looking at the the energy level, frequency, vibration level of health and performance?

00:02:50:16 – 00:03:30:13
Justin Frandson
I’ve always been in that aware space and starting at athleticism tor.com almost 30 years ago. It’s, it’s, it’s been always out of the box training for us it was mostly coordination work and proving just people’s just awareness on how to train out of the box. So we had one of the first Bosu balls in our gym from David Wack and Steve Cotter was a big guy and uses kettlebells, but he’s one of the guys that’s targeted for bringing kettlebells into our space.

00:03:30:13 – 00:03:56:11
Justin Frandson
And I had some incredible mentors like John Amos, who was doing nerve work, Dr. Toby Watkinson, who was doing muscle testing, applied kinesiology stuff to re connect some pathways to the body. And so I, I was just really blessed. We had Aaron Mattis doing active isolates, stretching. I was always using tools that were so different than everyone else was.

00:03:56:11 – 00:04:20:21
Justin Frandson
And then Dr. Jorge Gonzalez brought the lights into our space. And and then when I saw our athletes breaking down from wearable technology, we had one strong fit guy come in and he had a smartwatch on his wrist and he said, Hey, Justin, my I got pain in my wrist. I said, We’re here. He said, Right. He pointed right towards watchOS and that was about the time those Fitbits were being recalled.

00:04:20:21 – 00:04:42:00
Justin Frandson
And I said, We’ll take the radiation off your wrist. And sure enough, his pain went away. And so I just started putting all those pieces of the puzzle together to bring us to really understanding that we’re this electromagnetic means. We’re one with nature, and this non-native resonances were so polarizing for us.

00:04:43:03 – 00:04:53:15
Nathan Crane
What are some of the worst, you know, wearable, wearable technologies that you’ve seen in terms of like how much radiation they’re putting off? Have you looked into that, like the recent stuff?

00:04:54:18 – 00:05:16:20
Justin Frandson
Yeah, I mean, I think I’m just going to put them all in the same bucket. They’re all challenging. It’s is it 50 million waves per second, you know, on up 2 billion waves per second or more? I mean, it’s it’s really indifferent. They they they term the, the speed of the wavelength. So the way you measure that stuff.

00:05:16:20 – 00:05:46:22
Justin Frandson
Nathan, is by measuring the speed of the wavelength. So the meters that are designed to measure certain speeds of certain wavelengths, the mega hertz is in the millions of waves per second. The gigahertz is in the billions of waves per second. So it’s really pretty much indifferent when you start to get up into the high millions, close to billions as far as how polarizing it is for us.

00:05:46:22 – 00:06:12:24
Justin Frandson
So, for example, a Wi-Fi or cell phone, the lowest bandwidth that would be would be 2.4 or five gigahertz. So if you’re wearing a smartwatch, you know, it has a cellular Bluetooth broadband spectrum, you know, and, you know, basically five different bandwidths all inside that one phone. It’s just like, you know, having a cell phone on your wrist.

00:06:12:24 – 00:06:35:08
Justin Frandson
I mean, that’s that’s a lot if you go to the Bluetooth for the headsets and those are still receiving and transmitting. So you’re still in the billions of ways per second. So it’s just you might not have the GPS right in it, but you’re still going to have a lot of the others in it. So they’re all really taxing on the body.

00:06:35:08 – 00:06:56:13
Nathan Crane
What about if it’s so I’ve been using woop. Do you know about woop. Mm. So what I’ll do is like as an athlete, like, you know, trying to improve my sleep and track recovery and things like that, I find it really valuable. I also recommend, you know, some of our clients and patients to use some of these for a short period of time.

00:06:56:22 – 00:07:17:11
Nathan Crane
It doesn’t matter this any brand, but for a short period of time to see like how many hours of sleep they’re actually getting a night, right? Because one of the things we know, if you’re trying to heal from a chronic health condition, the more you can get into that parasympathetic, whether it’s through meditation, qigong, you know, pranayama, breath, work or just more sleep, the faster your body can heal.

00:07:17:11 – 00:07:31:23
Nathan Crane
And a lot of people think I’m in bed for 8 hours, 9 hours a night. I’m getting eight or 9 hours of sleep. Once you start tracking your sleep, you see, oh, wow, I’m in bed eight or 9 hours. I’m only sleeping 6 hours a night or 7 hours a night. And so focusing on, you know, improving sleep.

00:07:31:23 – 00:07:58:01
Nathan Crane
But then, you know, that’s the downside. I tell people, well, look, you’ve got Bluetooth, this is Bluetooth. And it’s a it’s supposed to be a like how it works is supposed to be like one of those kind of intermittent Bluetooth. I’m not exactly sure if you’ve looked into that research was supposed to be, you know, a lot less like, you know, EMF coming off of the device itself compared to some of the earlier technologies.

00:07:58:01 – 00:08:16:24
Nathan Crane
I don’t know how totally accurate that is or not. Maybe you do, but I’ll take it off for actually I took like six months off from it recently and then I started again. I’ll wear it when I go to the beach. I take it off the whole time just to like free my body from it. I’ll take it off sometimes when I travel for, like a week at a time.

00:08:16:24 – 00:08:35:10
Nathan Crane
So I’m giving my body a break from it, you know, fairly often, which I would recommend if people are going to use this, like give your body a break from it. But certainly, you know, we have this stuff on our body. If your phone’s in your pocket, 24 seven, right? Like that’s you’re just you’re causing damage to the DNA.

00:08:36:24 – 00:09:14:01
Justin Frandson
Yeah. Nathan, there’s a few things on pack on that. First off, the biggest message that I want to share with your audience is to get back to knowing how you feel and not allowing something else to tell you how many steps you took when it’s time to eat, how good your workout was, how good your sleep was, all that stuff they’re calling it the meta universe that you’re they’re allowing technology to really infiltrate us and VR litmus test.

00:09:14:07 – 00:09:43:11
Justin Frandson
We got to get back to connecting to God and getting grounded by nature and really knowing how we feel and tapping into our own senses and intuition for those types of things. So when I’m testing professional athletes, we don’t test them every day. So I mean, when you’re doing a one max squat, you know, and, and testing your max, you’re not testing those every day.

00:09:43:24 – 00:10:11:01
Justin Frandson
The body speed tests for tracking, developing speed for somebody, you don’t test them every day. But for some reason, this technology is really conditioning the most of the people to use this stuff all the time. And it’s just not how it’s done. You establish a baseline, maybe a midpoint, an end point test. I mean, that’s over, you know, a couple of months, a period of time or more.

00:10:11:01 – 00:10:35:23
Justin Frandson
So let’s get out of that rut of listening to this stuff, get back in to knowing how we feel they are. Technology is great. We do use it all the time. I mean, I’m so grateful that I can have this conversation with you and we could share with our audience through technology. But again, it’s this usage in proximity protocols.

00:10:36:06 – 00:11:05:06
Justin Frandson
You know, when I’m using it, my phone’s on airplane mode, my computer’s hard wired. I don’t have any wireless signals going on the circadian rhythm. I have a window right outside here, so I’m getting natural light and, you know, just not LED lights and all. So I don’t have a router right underneath my desk. There’s there’s ways to use this stuff without it using you.

00:11:05:06 – 00:11:25:19
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that’s a good point where, you know, we’re so addicted to our phones, right? So addicted to weather. Yeah. Getting, getting, like, programed and used to, like, oh, I need to have this thing on 24 seven and now your phone’s not good enough. You need to have your phone on your wrist at all times. Like, to me that never made sense.

00:11:25:19 – 00:11:42:18
Nathan Crane
Like I, you know, all day long I keep my phone at least, you know, a foot a couple of feet away from me. It’s on the table. It’s on the desk. It’s you know, if it’s in my pocket when I walk to the car, I immediately take it out of the car. I put it on the holder. If I go to a table, if I go to eat, it’s like I keep it off my body.

00:11:42:24 – 00:12:04:17
Nathan Crane
95% of the time because I’ve seen this research over the years. And, you know, I think that’s a simple solution for people. Right. But I like what you’re saying, too, is like, look, you know, the idea of thinking, oh, we have to wear these things 24 seven is is a paradigm that we need to break. It’s good for the companies.

00:12:04:17 – 00:12:10:01
Nathan Crane
They make more money, right? They get more data. But is it really helping us get healthier?

00:12:11:00 – 00:12:35:02
Justin Frandson
Yeah, exactly. The data is the king for them. The surveillance marketing, they’re they’re using our information and to market us to sell stuff. I mean, it’s it’s a huge business for them and for us. It’s a huge stressor on our health. And it’s more of a slow cooked process. I mean, everyone bends and breaks in different ways. Yeah.

00:12:35:05 – 00:12:55:24
Justin Frandson
Depending on your predisposition to this stuff. So I’ve been nit along the way. I mean I’m in my fifties now and have have seen a lot. I, when I was talking just even on a corded phone when I was younger, the on the phone for hours of the girlfriend, I could feel the corded phone affect my head and I would.

00:12:55:24 – 00:13:19:05
Justin Frandson
I remember distinctly asking my parents like, Hey, what’s going on? Why is this, you know, bothering me? Like there’s this pain I have and you have a phone just glued to your head back then. And it’s so little things like that. And then I had an internship where in commercial real estate where I was stuck at an X-ray machine.

00:13:19:05 – 00:13:39:09
Justin Frandson
I was copying papers for the brokers, and so I’d pull the paper off the X-ray machine. My fingertips would burn and I’m like, okay, it’s ionized radiation. It’s hot. If I do that really quick, it won’t be so bad. But I did that for, you know, about a month on end. And then now, 30 years later, I have nerve pain in my fingertips.

00:13:39:09 – 00:14:00:22
Justin Frandson
So I have to use a stylus when I’m touching screens because there’s like literally acute pain often when I touch the screen. So I’ve seen these things, you know, happen to me. And, and then all through just being in the EMF space for the last dozen plus years.

00:14:00:22 – 00:14:23:16
Nathan Crane
Yeah. For people who I mean I’ve Lloyd Bureau has done a really good job of pulling all this research together and I’ve looked at a number of articles over the years, I mean, people who don’t believe it because, you know, if you just Google it, like Google is going to give you very often a limited viewfinder into what a lot of the data actually shows.

00:14:23:16 – 00:14:42:02
Nathan Crane
I mean, we can I could pull up tons of studies like this one in reproductive biology and endocrinology that show, you know, cell phone radiation specifically. And we’re not just talking cell phones, right? I mean, we’re talking any of the EMFs that are created today. I mean, microwaves put off radiation, right? I stopped using we stopped microwaving our food.

00:14:42:17 – 00:15:11:04
Nathan Crane
15, 17 years ago, I think have not used a microwave since, you know, Wi-Fi routers put off radiation, cell phones, you know, devices, you know, smartwatches, all these kinds of things. And, you know, there’s lots of these like this oxidative stress carcinogens with focused on male reproductive system, where there are plenty of studies that show a number of different things where, you know, exposure to these can cause oxidative stress, can cause, you know, reactive oxygen species increase formation.

00:15:11:04 – 00:15:33:04
Nathan Crane
We know that it can you know, stimulate all of the kinds of pathways that then can lead to DNA damage. Like this is one study. There’s many of these studies out there that we can look at. There’s, you know, human studies. There’s mice studies. The problem is you go to some of the big you know, here’s one whole body exposure radio frequency electromagnetic magnetic energy can cause DNA damage.

00:15:33:04 – 00:15:55:17
Nathan Crane
This was a mouse study. Like I said, there’s tons of these studies out there. This is very real stuff. The problem is like cell phone companies and Internet companies don’t want this information getting out there. Obviously, it’s bad business. The government doesn’t want to getting out the government websites as well. And, you know, a lot of it is like they’re like, yeah, but this research shows it doesn’t cause DNA damage.

00:15:55:17 – 00:16:12:13
Nathan Crane
It’s like, yeah, but what about all this other research that does show that it does. You know, they’re like, well, we’re not going to put that on our website because that’s bad business. I mean, we’re talking about multi multibillion dollar industries, right? And I don’t care about it’s not like, oh, we got to take them down or stop them or whatever.

00:16:12:13 – 00:16:32:02
Nathan Crane
It’s just like talking with you. What can we do? You know, one, be aware that this stuff is is also damaging as well as it is beneficial. But then, you know, what can we do? So maybe you can list a number of solutions that you’ve found over the years. You mention a few, but maybe you could go through them a little more in depth as well.

00:16:32:02 – 00:16:50:08
Justin Frandson
Yeah, well, first off, I mean, there are thousands of studies by an issue of dawg there’s gun. Yeah multiple scientists from over 40 countries, hundreds of scientists from 40 countries and have so much stuff on it. Cell phone task force dot org and other great research.

00:16:51:06 – 00:16:54:24
Nathan Crane
Is this one you cite for own initiative dot org. Is this the one you said?

00:16:55:05 – 00:17:32:09
Justin Frandson
Yeah. So that was a report done over a dozen years ago. And Henry Ly’s Research, I mean, there’s thousands of these docs that talk about all the challenges that go into electromagnetic fields. And so electromagnetic maps are considered electromagnetic fields. They can be native or non-native. And so we call the non-native ones electromagnetic radiation. And electromagnetic radiation is essentially radiation for the body.

00:17:32:09 – 00:17:58:00
Justin Frandson
And it can be in a lower level bandwidth like electricity, which is measured in gas all the way up to dirty electricity and then into the wireless spectrum. So we’re being inundated by all these different levels of electricity. And ever since we introduced electricity into their homes, basically the flu is here to stay. They call it the flu.

00:17:58:07 – 00:18:36:01
Justin Frandson
And this is a crazy stat. In 1889, they put electricity in their homes. Nathan And before that, they called the flu. It was influenza because it was under the influence of the stars. So whenever there, whenever there is a cosmic shift in our atmosphere, solar flares, atmospheric pressure shifts, that’s when our bodies would adapt. We would, you know, REM patterns would be disrupted when our bodies would adapt, we would see the signs of disease that we see with with changes in our atmospheric pressure.

00:18:37:08 – 00:19:04:02
Justin Frandson
Not until we put electricity into the homes is a flu here to stay. And then every major electrification from then on was really documented, correlated directly with roll outs of non-native radiation like radio waves in 1918 with the Spanish Flu and World War Two radar and Hong Kong flu satellites. And then everyone knows what they rolled out the last several years of 5G and a lot of people adapting.

00:19:04:02 – 00:19:25:23
Justin Frandson
So the book The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Furstenberg categorizes all of that and directly correlates the history of electricity and life. So it’s really interesting to see that interplay between us and our environment and how these non-native wave forms can impact us.

00:19:25:23 – 00:19:45:14
Nathan Crane
This website by initiative dot org this the report. This is a really good resource for people who want to dig deeper. Right, because look at this service. If you want to look at gene and protein expression, it links right to the studies. It’s going to look at RF, R and DNA damage. You want to look at stress response proteins.

00:19:45:14 – 00:20:21:14
Nathan Crane
All the links to the studies are right here. Immune function, neurology, blood brain barrier. That’s some of the early studies I saw was how it penetrates, you know, blood brain barrier and allows it opens up blood brain barrier and allows other toxins to pass through into the brain. Right. Heavy metals and things like that. Acoustic neuroma leukemia, brain tumors, you know, cancer promotion, like on and on the metabolic mechanisms I did, I’ve done quite a bit of research on it specifically for mitochondrial damage and a presentation I gave earlier this year.

00:20:21:14 – 00:21:10:22
Nathan Crane
And, you know, there’s some crazy research I’ve found on how it damages mitochondria as well. Reproductive effects. You know, I remember I don’t know if it was 100%, you know, true or not. But I remember years ago seeing hearing stories and then seeing photos of like when when we had to flip phones. And it was like, I think the Razr, the Motorola Razr may be the kind of phone where, you know, when women would have it in their in their bra strap and then they would have tumors grow exactly the same shape and size of the phone that was sitting where they kept kept it inside their bra strap like these square.

00:21:11:01 – 00:21:28:12
Nathan Crane
You remember those phones, right? Like square tumors. That was a lot. It was probably like ten, 15 years ago. I think I remember seeing that and, you know, hearing lots of those stories, too. But, you know, those are stories. Those are anecdotes. But then you look at all this research and you’re like, okay, yeah, this is this is very real concern.

00:21:30:06 – 00:22:02:04
Justin Frandson
Yeah, it’s wild. I mean, it’s this is real stuff. And there’s so much literature you can just do any any search and in a search engine and look up challenges with radiation or wave forms and it all listed on there. There will be thousands of studies and list stuff. And from Beverly Rubicon on down I mean children’s health defense dot org has litigated litigated against telecom and all the major industries for all their lies and deceits for all these years.

00:22:02:04 – 00:22:24:01
Justin Frandson
And so there’s a bunch of research on there and and then Arthur Furstenberg has a ton on his side. So yeah, it’s, it’s literally there’s even enough material out there for people to find out about it. I think it’s all backs down into Dr. Martin and Paul’s work out of Washington State University. He talks about the voltage gated calcium channels breaking down.

00:22:24:01 – 00:22:52:07
Justin Frandson
So right out of the gate, those four words are basically the voltage gated calcium channels as a gateway for your mitochondria to derive energy. So if that’s disrupted right out of the gate, it’s your your cells, your flashes. It’s not getting energy. You’re not able to produce energy right out of the gates. And oxidative stress, it’s the bandwidth at 2.4 or five gigahertz is the lowest bandwidth that structures water.

00:22:52:14 – 00:23:23:11
Justin Frandson
So I’m seeing with our athletes is chronic dehydration with everybody. And it’s an epidemic of it. And a lot of it’s from the EMFs because of the destruction in the water. A lot of it’s from the chemicals and the barium that’s in there come channels that they’re dropping on us. It’s disrupting the fascia and dehydrating us. So we need silica back in our system and then minerals, the Irish Sea moss and all these great minerals back in it.

00:23:23:11 – 00:24:06:20
Justin Frandson
But the right out of the gate, this stuff’s messing with us. And then what happens is it’s an end of the current disrupter, a calcify is our perineal gland. We’re not connecting to God. You’re not producing these hormones when you’re sleeping. So those are the first systems that are disrupted right out of the body. Then you go into all the cognitive stuff and then you get into some of the non trauma concussion symptoms and then you get into the bigs, the cancers, suicide, diabetes, Alzheimer’s, cardiovascular disease and infertility.

00:24:06:20 – 00:24:35:05
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that’s that’s a lot. That’s, that’s scary. You know, that’s scary. If you’re a, you want to have children or your parent or mother or you have a chronic disease, you’re trying to heal or you just want to be healthy, you know, not just for athletes, right? Athletes for performance. Yeah. You’re going to see benefit if you’re reducing the oxidative stress, you can see faster recovery times.

00:24:35:05 – 00:24:43:09
Nathan Crane
But I mean, just for the average person or somebody dealing with a chronic disease, you know, it’s like all this stuff is actually pretty concerning.

00:24:43:09 – 00:25:08:24
Justin Frandson
Yeah, it’s it’s really tough to heal, Nathan, when you’re discharged. So when you lose your polarity, it’s, it’s really challenging to heal. And that’s what this stuff does for our bodies are essentially a body battery. We’re a capacitor, we take in frequencies, we absorb stuff, and then we emit it. We’re all electromagnetic beings. We we have a resonance that goes out about 6 to 8 feet.

00:25:09:06 – 00:25:29:10
Justin Frandson
If if our environment’s disrupting anything, then our chemistry is affected. And so when we get discharged, we don’t have that that charge flowing through our body because we’re electric. It’s not on full cylinders. We see signs of disease in our body.

00:25:29:10 – 00:25:33:05
Nathan Crane
You said deep, you say depolarize the body.

00:25:33:24 – 00:25:34:08
Justin Frandson
Yeah.

00:25:34:21 – 00:25:36:20
Nathan Crane
Well, talk more about that. What do you mean?

00:25:37:17 – 00:25:39:24
Justin Frandson
So, Eileen McHugh sick? Yeah.

00:25:39:24 – 00:25:40:05
Nathan Crane
Are you.

00:25:40:05 – 00:25:40:19
Justin Frandson
Familiar with.

00:25:40:19 – 00:25:43:20
Nathan Crane
Her, Eileen? Really? Well, yeah. She’s a good friend I’ve known her for. Yeah.

00:25:44:11 – 00:26:08:14
Justin Frandson
So she has an incredible for those that don’t know her, she’s incredible sound tuning for a killing system that there is your bio field and of any stuck stuff. So what happens is is we get stuck things in our energy field. You can get stuck EMF in your energy field as well. And we use our grounding bags to clear similar to the way she uses her tuning forks to clear it.

00:26:09:03 – 00:26:35:22
Justin Frandson
But what I love about her system is she identifies the body as a body battery and we get a negative charge from the Earth’s resonance and we pull the electrons from that negative ionic charge to support our electron transport. And that’s what gives us energy. We get more energy from the sun, from the polarized light of the sun that distributes equally in every direction.

00:26:36:13 – 00:27:03:02
Justin Frandson
Zach Bush. Dr. Zach Bush will say, we breathe in these minerals from different environments. So get out in the oceans, in the forests and the deserts, in different climates that have some incredible air. Hopefully we get it from our food. And when we’re eating organic and regenerative and biodynamic foods and then the big thing is the conductivity of it all from the water.

00:27:03:02 – 00:27:27:03
Justin Frandson
And hopefully we get spring water and have it has structure information that our bodies can absorb and utilize. But we also utilize that for the conductivity if we’re missing any one of those five elements. Nathan We are become a gateway for dis ease to occur. So in order for our body battery to be fully charged, we, we have to have all those elements.

00:27:27:08 – 00:27:49:10
Justin Frandson
A car battery runs out of water. What happens to it? It dies, right? So we have, you know, a handful more mechanisms where we don’t just die. But that is those are the elements that we really our body requires for optimal health and performance.

00:27:49:10 – 00:28:18:09
Nathan Crane
Well, with the electromagnetic side, you know, in the in the science that supports that, it’s really interesting. And I think if we dove deep thousands of years ago into the, you know, ancient science of the Vedas, the Vedic sciences, the Indian teachings of prana and lifeforce energy. Or we go over to China, we go to the ancient TCM, traditional Chinese medicine, and we also look at the Chea, the lifeforce energy of the body right.

00:28:18:09 – 00:28:52:23
Nathan Crane
They teach. We can cultivate this through breath. Prana is one of the one of the ways to to build up our prana build up our chee. Another way, as you said, food, water, these things actually build the lifeforce energy in the body, especially, you know, if you’re eating terrible garbage food, usually you’re going to feel terrible after. So there’s not much life force in that versus living food, real food, plant food, these kinds of living by vibratory foods where you eat the fruit and vegetables and nuts and seeds and legumes, and then you feel like you have a ton of energy.

00:28:52:23 – 00:29:21:00
Nathan Crane
Right? It’s a life force in the food chain with the water. Right. Dead water that’s filled with chemicals and toxins is not going to be as nurturing for you as, you know, fresh spring water straight out of mountains filled with hydrogen and, you know, minerals. I mean, these are just things that basic things that I think you mentioned early on is like this is what I have been preaching for, you know, almost two decades now.

00:29:21:00 – 00:29:44:22
Nathan Crane
Like the further we get away from nature, the more disease we’re going to have, the less happier we’re going to be, the more sick we’re going to be, the less energy we’re going to have, the closer we get back to nature. Barefoot Just before this interview, I was sitting outside back to the sun, absorbing sunshine, barefoot on the grass in the backyard for, I don’t know, 10 minutes or less just charging up my body.

00:29:44:22 – 00:30:07:14
Nathan Crane
Because when you do that, you do feel a difference. You do feel a difference in your charge and how much energy you have. And, you know, the closer you get to nature, real food, whole foods coming from the planet right. Connection, you said, you know, connection to God and having that, you know, connecting to source, to soul, to God, all these things bring us more life, force energy and make us feel better and happier and healthier.

00:30:08:08 – 00:30:34:02
Nathan Crane
But the further we get away from that, the more sick we’re going to be. And so it is really, you know, we’re going to live in this modern world with all these convenient technologies. I think we have to even double down more on how much time we actually spend in nature. We know that if you go out into the forest, you know the why you feel so good and at peace when you’re walking in the forest or, you know, forest bathing.

00:30:34:02 – 00:31:02:09
Nathan Crane
Is that Japanese have called it right where you’re spending time out away from technology, out in nature. You feel good, you feel energized, you feel recharged. Well, what is that? Just as you were talking about, we are literally pulling in negative ions from the trees in the air, from the ground and soil around us into our bodies. And it’s charging and healing us, the chee and the prana, right and qigong, they talk about these diseases are blocked, energy is blocked.

00:31:02:09 – 00:31:32:08
Nathan Crane
Chea And you were talking about how it’s like Lin McKissick in the South healing, you know this these frequencies help to actually break open. That stuck energy stuck EMFs we’ve been talking about, which I haven’t really heard of, stuck in EMF. That’s kind of interesting, but I’m very aware of the stuck concept in which we practice qigong and we really open up our channels and our meridians and that energy can flow and then, you know, the body can heal itself.

00:31:32:09 – 00:32:09:09
Justin Frandson
I mean, think about when. Yeah, just so Bruce Lipton said, is your your health indicative of your G? So the energy in your energy field is primary. The secondary effect is the chemistry of our body. And so that’s why Alene works on your energy field, because then everything changes in your body. It’s so simple. It’s just basic physics and basically how our body works and rubs and when we start to do that, we can start to change that energy field outside.

00:32:09:11 – 00:32:30:23
Justin Frandson
The chemistry will change. Then we work on the internal environment. So I always say, Hey, let’s learn about our environment. What is your environment? Your environment? I could kill you or allow you to thrive. And let’s lean on the air or the air of our environment is either a plasma. That’s where these waves and particles travel through. So that is our main environment.

00:32:30:23 – 00:32:55:01
Justin Frandson
Just as a marine, life’s environs is an ocean. So if you polluted the ocean and there’s a huge oil spill, what’s going to happen to the marine life? They’re going to get sick and they’re going to adapt the best way we can. Same is if we pollute our environment, our air with millimeter waves and radiation, invisible stressors, our bodies are going to adapt the best way we know how.

00:32:56:12 – 00:33:14:16
Nathan Crane
Well, what about people who I mean, I have neighbors. People, you know, their wife is going to come in even if I turn mine off. People who live in apartments like you ever been apartment or a hotel? Right. You got 30, 40 networks. You’re in a busy city. You got 30, 40, 50 networks that show up on your phone.

00:33:15:01 – 00:33:22:10
Nathan Crane
You know, like we’re just surrounded by this stuff everywhere. So, I mean, are people just doomed or how do you feel about that?

00:33:23:01 – 00:33:54:10
Justin Frandson
Yeah, I know. So, Nathan, the cool thing is, is what I want to teach is awareness. And when we can get back to awareness of understanding how we interplay with our environment, how we’re one with nature, we’re built on these scalar waves, they’re polarized waves. All the non-native ones are one directional. That’s why they’re different. So when we understand that simple framework of how we’re one with nature and how the other stuff’s different, then we could start to understand proximity and usage protocols.

00:33:54:18 – 00:34:24:21
Justin Frandson
But the cool thing is, in addition to that, then we can understand physics component where we can convert a one directional wave form and it’s something that sun polarized, that’s the physics side. So I don’t want everyone to leave here in fear of this stuff. No, that’s what nature does for us. This helps facilitate us converting these wave forms and allowing us to coexist with this stuff that’s why, you know, everyone looks to nature to get grounded, so to die with the grounding bag.

00:34:24:21 – 00:34:52:20
Justin Frandson
So you bring in nature’s residents into your home. It creates a coherence showing monks can also turn their chee and they can convert these wave forms into something that doesn’t affect us. So the people that do this breathwork and meditations and build their life force up and focus on that stuff and are healthy, they have better strength to just do it just with their intention.

00:34:53:21 – 00:35:04:10
Justin Frandson
The majority of the population, we want to get them to be able to do that. And sometimes you just could use a lot of help from being out in nature using our products like our grounding backs.

00:35:06:03 – 00:35:37:23
Nathan Crane
So I mean, I believe 100% that with the mind and with practice, you know, we I mean, our minds and bodies are incredible. What we can do truly create miracles beyond what modern science can even understand. But people are always going to ask, well, is there any proof? Is there any science of that? Like you said, you know, these qigong masters and and deep meditators that can actually transform the way form energy, right.

00:35:37:23 – 00:35:49:08
Nathan Crane
From a Wi-Fi radiation, for example, and convert it into more of a harmonious technologies are proof of that. Is there any science that has has looked at that, that you’re aware of?

00:35:49:08 – 00:36:12:03
Justin Frandson
Yeah. So, I mean, we’ll look at even that. I’m Dr. Abraham Karim’s just bio geometry like this guy’s transmuting wave forms, you know, through just through energy. And again, all the the meditators can do that. You can just have the intent to ground right now. What was that can have then what’s that?

00:36:12:13 – 00:36:14:02
Nathan Crane
Who was that and what was that called.

00:36:14:16 – 00:36:20:08
Justin Frandson
Oh, Dr. Abraham Karim. So he’s the founder of bio geometry.

00:36:20:16 – 00:36:22:16
Nathan Crane
Bio geometry. Okay. I’ve never heard of that.

00:36:23:11 – 00:36:26:15
Justin Frandson
And so you can.

00:36:26:20 – 00:36:32:13
Nathan Crane
Basically discover, like, what is he. Yeah, what does he discover?

00:36:32:13 – 00:37:02:07
Justin Frandson
He is probably one of the biggest guys known to transmuting Ley lines or energy fields through bio geometry. And it’s a kind of incredible system that he created. But you can do that through his stuff. The experts can do it. I mean, like right now, Nathan, we can just have the intent to get around it. Like we can literally put our focus on that.

00:37:02:07 – 00:37:17:10
Justin Frandson
We’re a strong tree with deep roots and have have our feet just rooted in the ground. And I mean, I’m barefoot right now in my office and so and and I did my morning open water, ocean, sweat, permeable.

00:37:17:10 – 00:37:24:20
Nathan Crane
I’m always barefoot and I’ve got I got to actually have a grounding mat. Yeah, let’s see. You’re barefoot. I don’t know if you’ve seen me.

00:37:24:23 – 00:37:27:06
Justin Frandson
Hey.

00:37:27:06 – 00:37:36:14
Nathan Crane
Yeah, I have a grounding mat under my working desk right there. So I stand on that barefoot when I’m working at the computer, you know, just plugged into the grounded outlet there.

00:37:36:14 – 00:37:39:19
Justin Frandson
So we’re going to we’re going to get you one of these.

00:37:39:22 – 00:37:41:04
Nathan Crane
Okay. So what is it?

00:37:41:22 – 00:38:08:02
Justin Frandson
That’s our grounding bag. I’ll get into that in a little bit, but that’ll surpass anything else. But but just having the intent for us to ground and and we’re a strong tea tree deep roots. The more the wind blows, the deeper our roots get, the more grounded and connected we get. Then the more we ebb and flow and give yourself some infinite love and gratitude while you do that, you’ll instantly get grounded.

00:38:08:07 – 00:38:20:13
Justin Frandson
And we can we can grow food, our body, our mind and our spirit. Just with that intent, giving love and gratitude and connecting each of those three areas, you can be grounded instantly.

00:38:21:06 – 00:38:28:20
Nathan Crane
So I, like I 100% believe that. But again, is that is that what he proved through. Yeah. Scientific methods through biogeochemistry.

00:38:29:07 – 00:38:36:10
Justin Frandson
Yeah. He didn’t prove that Dr. Darren Wiseman proved that through the lifeline technique that you can ground yourself instantly.

00:38:36:15 – 00:38:39:10
Nathan Crane
That’s so cool. The Lifeline technology.

00:38:39:16 – 00:38:41:11
Justin Frandson
The lifeline technique using like.

00:38:41:11 – 00:39:03:13
Nathan Crane
I’ve learned this, I’ve learned these things over the last 20 years of just like learning different meditations and practices. And I’ve you can feel the difference when you do it. So that’s how I know personally it’s working, but I’m always like super interested in like, yeah. Is there modern science that’s confirming this, right? All modern science, in my opinion, all it really does is confirm what our ancestors have figured out for thousands of years.

00:39:03:19 – 00:39:23:00
Nathan Crane
That’s really all it’s been doing, right? Because like, we’ve already known all this stuff forever. People, masters have been doing this all over the world for thousands of years. And modern science is like still barely catching up. But I like it when there is science behind it because it helps people who are, you know, doubting, like, oh yeah, that’s just some woo woo spiritual, whatever.

00:39:23:00 – 00:39:28:22
Nathan Crane
It’s like, yeah, it works. And guess what? There’s some science that supports it, which is always definitely.

00:39:29:11 – 00:40:09:14
Justin Frandson
And in addition to that. Nathan, the biggest thing too is every Western medicine diagnostic test uses wave form technology, x rays, wave forms, they’re ionized EKG wave forms, a CAT scan, I ionized wave forms I again, these, all these systems are using wave forms in Western medicine. But there’s some disconnect when we go and test our wave form or Archie like I had Dr. Baer Lando test our grounding bags.

00:40:10:02 – 00:40:42:16
Justin Frandson
He has dual impedance antennas. It measures your cheek and any distortion in it and it directly tells him what’s going on healthwise with your body. More accurate for him than blood does so. Doctor Baird Landov. B r r e lando alphabetic l f a v e di c dot com. He’ll be one of your favorites. Yeah. Eileen’s music’s been on his podcast a couple of times, I believe so.

00:40:43:11 – 00:41:07:17
Justin Frandson
Anyhow, he’s one of the most brilliant minds. Him and Tom Cowan are two of my favorite most brilliant minds in the health space. And then Eileen’s is one of my favorite systems. Doctor Darren Wise Some of my favorite systems, I’m a systems guy, so I love systems approaches to to healing. There’s not just one that works, but there’s a lot.

00:41:07:17 – 00:41:33:09
Justin Frandson
But anyhow, going back to the resonance of, of everything, that’s how we test stuff. And so to me when someone says, well, that’s woo woo or doesn’t make sense, well, it’s just testing a different way to test waveforms. And I could do it through applied kinesiology, through muscle testing, and that’s what I do. I’ve done that for a long, long time, for decades.

00:41:33:15 – 00:41:46:14
Justin Frandson
I just test energy and and I’m really in tune with it. And I can give you an answer. Yes or no, just off the reflexes, your body through muscle testing.

00:41:46:14 – 00:42:06:10
Nathan Crane
Yeah, muscle testing is really interesting, actually. How your body is just responding is like telling you yes or no if this thing’s, you know, good for you or not good for you can do supplements, you can do it. And it’s it seems to be very accurate, doesn’t it? Muscle testing for the most part. Is there ways to think the ways where it doesn’t work?

00:42:06:10 – 00:42:11:14
Nathan Crane
I mean, I think there’s times where muscle testing might not work great for some people.

00:42:12:09 – 00:42:41:23
Justin Frandson
Well, it’s it’s depends on who’s doing it and the questions you’re asking. And and if someone can read energy pretty well you can get a really accurate I mean, look at these systems now. They’re rolling out scalar wave technology like the eye mate or yeah, there’s so many others that can literally read your bio field, tell you exactly what’s wrong with you, and then treat it instantly.

00:42:42:18 – 00:43:08:24
Justin Frandson
Have the treat. Just treat it right away. So again, whether it’s the machine doing it or us doing it with each other, this that is the framework of how our Planet Revs is through wave form. So we got to get more in tune with that and understand, you know, if you add ten zeros to someone’s bank account, that’s a big deal, right?

00:43:08:24 – 00:43:38:24
Justin Frandson
Definitely. Well, if you add ten zeros to the speed of a one directional polarizing wave, charged wave, you know, charge in our environment, that’s a big difference for our body as well. So understanding just the simple concept of wave forms and the framework of how they’re made, scalar waves, which are the native ones and natural ones versus a manmade one but one directional.

00:43:38:24 – 00:44:07:18
Justin Frandson
We can get past all this stuff of people worrying about this virus and this contagion, you know, you know, germ. We don’t have to worry about that stuff because it’s all about the environment. You pollute the environment, our bodies adapt. So that that’s what we’re seeing with history is when there is times of a environmental pollution toxicity, you know, those are the times that people get sick.

00:44:07:18 – 00:44:13:11
Justin Frandson
It’s not. Did that often give that dolphin a virus. It’s no it’s who polluted their their water.

00:44:16:02 – 00:44:48:23
Nathan Crane
That often give the the whale virus from an eagle that flew out of you know, the Mongolian caves or something. I’ll try to look at images, too, because I’m very visual for other people who are visual and see if this is a good example of, you know, one directional waves versus like scalar waves. This is a transverse wave or longitudinal, is that it’s hard to see.

00:44:49:08 – 00:45:18:04
Justin Frandson
Yeah, that’s good. And then the other thing that I will a few examples that I’ll give you, I’ll give you three that I like to look at and the scalar waves are the framework of these wave. So all the wave forms are based off of the scale, the wave which is an polarize. So if you’re looking at a one directional like the waves, the junctions have to meet or you have dirty electricity, and that’s why one directional stuff.

00:45:18:04 – 00:45:56:10
Justin Frandson
So every cell tower panel faces every different direction. So because they can only broadcast and bend it, they can refracted about 25 degrees or 30 degrees, but it’s in a straight line. So that’s why you have the panels facing every which way. Now, I have a window right here. You can see light behind my hand. If it was a one directional, you would just see a laser dot right here and you wouldn’t see any light behind it if if I’m getting by nature, I’m not in nature’s residence right here, and then out of it, two feet over to the right, it’s a resonance over.

00:45:56:14 – 00:46:21:00
Justin Frandson
They didn’t say stay 60 feet away from a straight line out of Justin’s right ear. No, it’s a 68 feet biofuel that goes equally in every direction. And then the last example is if I drop a pebble into a pond, does that wave form distributed equally in every direction, in a circular direction, yes. Because they’re scalar waves are on polarized.

00:46:21:09 – 00:46:32:01
Justin Frandson
I don’t drop it perpendicular and it shoots straight to the right or left. That’s just not how our nature is designed. So those are the differences between the wave forms.

00:46:33:02 – 00:46:40:05
Nathan Crane
Yeah. So once it’s polarized, meaning they add magnetism to the electricity, is that right?

00:46:40:22 – 00:46:41:07
Justin Frandson
Yeah.

00:46:41:07 – 00:47:05:09
Nathan Crane
And then it shoots in a straight line, basically, like out of a Wi-Fi tower, for example, or cell phone tower. And that, for what I understand also in interviews with Dr. William Pollack over the years, too, you probably know him and all his research with EMFs and cancer and pumps and helping heal the body pulse, electromagnetic frequencies that actually are more like energies.

00:47:05:15 – 00:47:30:08
Nathan Crane
The energy wavelength that can help induce healing in the body. Right. PMF, EMF. Yeah. So, so that straight direct line of manmade energy is what’s basically to blame then, right? Versus, yes. The scalar energy that’s moving, you know, in this in this. How would I describe the vibrations? How would you describe them?

00:47:30:19 – 00:47:56:23
Justin Frandson
It’s a more coherent field for us to assimilate and now with saying that, I want to be clear on a couple of things, because, you know, my business we’re in the in the business of introducing products that help people heal. We look to nature’s resonance to heal from EMF. So the Schumann resonance is essentially 7.83 Hertz Airways for a second.

00:47:57:02 – 00:48:17:24
Justin Frandson
We’re bringing that resonance into our environment. So we live in these homes that are really electrical boxes. Yeah, but we call them homes. And so we’re the goal is to get our homes to be as close to the residents of nature. So that’s why when you bring in a bunch of grounding bags in your home, you create that coherence.

00:48:17:24 – 00:48:22:23
Justin Frandson
So when you’re dealing with electricity.

00:48:22:23 – 00:48:30:14
Nathan Crane
For people, for we go there for people who’ve never heard the Schumann resonance. Right. Can you talk a little bit about it? I’m just pulling up an image here.

00:48:30:14 – 00:48:41:13
Justin Frandson
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, let me let me finish this. Try and keep that on there and then let me finish this train of thought because I don’t want to get diverted on it, if that’s okay.

00:48:41:15 – 00:48:44:16
Nathan Crane
Yeah, go ahead.

00:48:44:16 – 00:49:10:01
Justin Frandson
So so we want to keep this we want to bring in that residents in their homes. Now, if you’re looking at healing your body, electricity, the PMI of this graph machines, scalar frequency machines, they’re incredible. I’m starting you if you’re looking to to use that type of technology for EMF protection, they’re not going to do the job.

00:49:10:01 – 00:49:12:18
Nathan Crane
Right, because you have to have the machine running for it to be.

00:49:12:24 – 00:49:38:06
Justin Frandson
All the time. You can’t you can’t do that. So so my whole take is in and if you modify a frequency and embedded into a chip or a sticker or a metal plate, and that’s like to me, I equate that to eating genetically modified food. You’re modifying a resonance and you’re putting it into your environment to overpower all the other modified resonances.

00:49:38:13 – 00:49:51:06
Justin Frandson
That’s a futile effort when it comes to EMF protection. When it comes to healing, it can be fantastic because it jumpstarts your system. So let’s go back to the scalar waves.

00:49:52:02 – 00:50:14:01
Nathan Crane
Let me ask you this real quick for Schuman resonance on that topic. So like these these bags you have, you say you’re bringing in energy, you know, the natural healing energy from the earth, natural scalar waves from the earth that’s helping to mitigate some of the EMF, you know, pollution, electromagnetic pollution. That’s coming in from Wi-Fi and things like that.

00:50:14:07 – 00:50:22:24
Nathan Crane
How is that different from just putting some plants in my house? Like is can plants do the same thing? Living plants.

00:50:22:24 – 00:50:31:23
Justin Frandson
They can help a lot. They just don’t have as strong a resonance as there as the rocks do.

00:50:31:23 – 00:50:38:04
Nathan Crane
And and that’s measurable. You guys have measured that you have like science supporting that that we can take a look at.

00:50:38:18 – 00:51:06:09
Justin Frandson
Yeah, yeah, we do. We can measure that that resonance that it kicks off and how it helps you. And the way we measure it is we look at body measurements. So if you put a plant next year, how much of your body measurements change? Well, not very much. If you put our grounding bag right next year, a lot’s going to change so that those are the tests we’ve done.

00:51:06:09 – 00:51:32:09
Justin Frandson
You can have a plant in your room. Are you going to get up to 60% deeper sleep? Probably not. So we we we look to human resonance, nature’s resonance for that healing capacity at that level. And so, yeah, I’ll walk you when we get into our products, we can get into those more tests and such. But to stay on the scalar way of talk, this is really important.

00:51:32:16 – 00:52:01:16
Justin Frandson
What I’m alluding to is measuring in the speed of a wave length. So I alluded to the human resonance. The healing pulse of the earth is measured depending on the season at about 7.83 hertz airwaves per second. So that is a resonance of the earth that is constant and can change in ebb and flow of seasons and such when we sleep.

00:52:01:16 – 00:52:06:11
Justin Frandson
Nathan Yeah. Are you familiar with the Delta and Theta Brainwave States?

00:52:06:18 – 00:52:07:02
Nathan Crane
Yep.

00:52:07:19 – 00:52:44:22
Justin Frandson
Oh, definitely. So those are measured. I’m going to I’m going to convert this all these waveforms into a wave per second so everyone can be on the same page. Schumann Resonance 7.83 hertz or 7.83 waves per second. Delta Theta Brainwave State. When we’re deep restorative REM, rapid eye movement, a lucid dream state recovery sleep, our brainwave state is at one or below 1 to 8 hertz or one or below 1 to 8 waves per second.

00:52:45:16 – 00:53:10:21
Justin Frandson
Schumann resonance is 7.83 ways for a second. We’re literally almost one with nature’s resonance. When our athletes with athleticism are in the flow and they can’t miss. When you’re doing your CrossFit and you’re in the zone and you just see no one can stop you. You’re in an alpha brainwave state that brainwave states about 8 to 13 hertz or waves per second.

00:53:10:24 – 00:53:11:08
Justin Frandson
Mm.

00:53:11:11 – 00:53:11:20
Nathan Crane
Yeah.

00:53:11:20 – 00:53:39:15
Justin Frandson
We rev sleep and optimize one with nature’s resonance. And remember in the beginning I talked about why five being in the billions, the waves per second, 2.4 or 5 billion waves for a second for these cell phones, that’s 4G, 5G is 60 to 90 billion waves per second. Guess what, telecom? Nathan guess what? Telecom is allowed to go up to?

00:53:40:00 – 00:53:42:12
Nathan Crane
Oh, I don’t think I want to know.

00:53:43:07 – 00:54:13:11
Justin Frandson
300 gigahertz. They’re they’re at 60 to 90 gigahertz with 5G. They can go up to 300 gigahertz. That’s insane. So that’s where we’re going with this stuff. Getting grounded by nature right now is a necessity more than it’s ever been. It’s the number one stressor in our environment. Hands down. Zach Bush would say it’s glyphosate because he has 40 years of research.

00:54:13:18 – 00:54:40:11
Justin Frandson
I’ll say Zach and he’s a buddy of mine. Sorry, we have 140 years from electricity of research, from electricity being in the homes on up into this wireless stuff. And it’s only getting stronger and just a little closer proximity and with more technology being rolled out. So to me that there’s no scratching your head that this stuff is the number one stressor.

00:54:40:17 – 00:54:52:22
Justin Frandson
And everything on that on that bar graph has gone up since we introduced this stuff into our worlds at record speeds.

00:54:52:22 – 00:55:03:23
Nathan Crane
Yeah, everything in terms of like chronic diseases. These yeah. I mean it’s a combination, it’s both combination of glyphosate and other toxins and then for sure and not.

00:55:03:23 – 00:55:04:07
Justin Frandson
Just.

00:55:04:17 – 00:55:05:09
Nathan Crane
Exactly.

00:55:05:13 – 00:55:49:04
Justin Frandson
Yeah, yeah. It’s not just one thing. There’s a there’s you know, there’s a combination. We’ve been lied to in every major, major industry. Glyphosate, fake food, GMO food, all that stuff. Yeah, big culprit. But the one consistent variable, literally for 140 years is electricity on up into wireless signals. That’s a crazy stat. And then you look at these marketing schemes like wearable technologies, you know, browsers in your ear, laptop laptops, probably one of the worst that’s put a battery in a router over your lap where your reproductive organs are, where your ovaries absorb ten times the amount of radiation, any other part of the body, and then people’s sperm counts plummet with that.

00:55:49:20 – 00:55:52:18
Justin Frandson
This is insane.

00:55:52:18 – 00:56:13:17
Nathan Crane
What do you think of Elon Musk’s, you know, satellites covering the entire globe now? You know, basically, I don’t think they’re covering the whole globe yet, but I know that’s his plan. I think they set up thousands of satellites transmitting EMF radiation down, you know, all over the planet. What do you think about that?

00:56:14:21 – 00:56:46:20
Justin Frandson
I think it’s the most devastating agenda that could ever be rolled out in in in more ways than one. I mean, the next one, the electric cars, is probably the next biggest challenge. That’s my biggest button right now. But the electric cars are sitting on a massive battery that’s 18% lower testosterone. You’re using more of the electrical grid to use the vehicle that you’re writing to reduce the usage of that electrical grid.

00:56:46:20 – 00:57:04:11
Justin Frandson
But you have to use it to use a car. It makes no sense. It’s a fad I think it’s going to go away. They’re already moving to hydrogen and hybrids because people don’t want to wait. They don’t want to wait an hour or an hour, 45 minutes to charge a car. The people feel like crap sin inside of them.

00:57:04:17 – 00:57:11:19
Justin Frandson
It’s a fire hazard. I mean, the list goes on and on. I could write a dissertation on electric cars, I think.

00:57:11:19 – 00:57:20:02
Nathan Crane
But he’s got the I mean, he said it’s a fad going away. I mean there I don’t know if Tesla is still they were the number one company in the world are they still number? Well.

00:57:21:01 – 00:57:41:22
Justin Frandson
Brianna, he’s done a great marketing thing. I don’t know how his his Tesla logo looks like an IED. Like I mean, I’m not a fan of him. I’m not a fan of his his companies. I think he’s done some incredible things. People have made a ton of money on his stocks. I would never buy an electric car. I will never drive an electric car.

00:57:42:04 – 00:58:12:06
Justin Frandson
And I do not support phased array radiation being blasted down on our entire surface of the world from, you know, couple of hundred, 250 miles away. Like, that’s crazy. That’s about the same distance that the airport traffic control radars can broadcast. Is is a couple they’re about 40 miles further is what they are broadcasting. These satellites from above our heads that’s poisoning us.

00:58:12:14 – 00:58:36:22
Justin Frandson
It’s dehydrating us and our planet. It’s destroying birds, immigration patterns, the sounds that these products make, animals can hear, most humans can’t hear unless you’re underwater. We can hear all this stuff. The clearest day. It sounds like static turned all the way up on your radio station. Turn all the way up. Yeah. It’s just devastating for us and our planet.

00:58:37:03 – 00:59:05:14
Justin Frandson
He’s probably Elon Musk and his businesses are probably the number one biggest polluter by far, because we’re using coal, candy and precious minerals to mine these fuels to fuel the electric car batteries. And then now the the fuels from the rocket fuels are just devastating for packaging for for all of our foods on us. I mean, it’s crazy.

00:59:05:14 – 00:59:31:01
Justin Frandson
And they’re radiating us at closer levels, at record levels. Third World countries don’t want and don’t have electricity. They don’t have it. They don’t need it. Oceans, deserts, forests. We don’t want it there. They don’t have it. They don’t need it. We have to stop polluting our environment and take back our air away. Right. I mean, this is absolutely devastating.

00:59:31:01 – 00:59:49:21
Justin Frandson
And there’s some cognitive dissonance. This is how brilliant people told him. There is just absolutely no awareness on the actual effects of what he’s creating for our entire world.

00:59:49:21 – 01:00:20:14
Nathan Crane
I know NPR did a piece on Cobalt, which is like one of the major minerals. They need for these batteries, for these cars and stuff. Right. And phones and all that. Literally how in the Congo, as they call modern day slavery. Right. What’s happening and like it’s destroying these people’s lives. And, you know, they’re basically modern day slavery with people in the Congo that are having to be in touch with this massively toxic.

01:00:20:16 – 01:00:45:07
Nathan Crane
Right. They’re breathing it. They’re touching it, which cobalt is very toxic. And, you know, it’s supposed to be like safe, clean, nontoxic working conditions, but it’s not. There’s videos on this. I’ve seen, too, like 20,000 people at these mines in shifts of 5000 at a time, just digging and pulling the stuff out by hand and breathing it and how toxic that is for these people.

01:00:45:21 – 01:01:04:12
Nathan Crane
And they pay them like a couple of dollars a day or whatever it is. Right? So that’s two that’s to build. I mean, that’s that’s for the batteries. That’s just one of the things that have to be mined for for these batteries. So I hear what you’re saying on that. It is you know, it was this idea that, oh, you know, electric cars are going to save the world.

01:01:05:10 – 01:01:33:06
Nathan Crane
Are they as toxic or more toxic than fossil fuels? Are they worse for the planet? Right. I mean, these are questions that I don’t think anyone has 100% answers for. I don’t think they’re going to save the world. I don’t think they’re sustainable long term. Right. There’s no way that mining for these materials and using these batteries and then, you know, all these charging stations, like you said, like there’s no way that that’s sustainable long term and that’s eco friendly, as they say.

01:01:33:06 – 01:01:35:16
Nathan Crane
There’s nothing eco friendly about it. Let’s be honest.

01:01:35:23 – 01:01:58:17
Justin Frandson
Oh, no. They’re charging stations are using diesel, they’re using oil. They’re using coal to mine this stuff. They’re just doing it in other countries. So it’s not a net zero in any way, shape or form. They’re using more of everything. They’re wanting to reduce the usage of to make it and mine it and extract it and then the usage of it, they’re using more of it.

01:01:58:23 – 01:02:36:19
Justin Frandson
It’s absolutely insanity. Literally, there’s no common sense, rhyme or reason that an electric car, you know, makes sense other than the emissions that it doesn’t do when you’re driving it. I mean, that’s the only thing that is less. But all the mining and all the extraction, all the more using electricity. And then the other thing is, is when you’re charging your phone, so if you have a really healthy, healthy wired home, Nathan, the second you plug in your electric car, it throws off the entire grid of your home.

01:02:36:19 – 01:03:02:13
Justin Frandson
So you turn a healthy home into a dirty electricity home. You turn a healthy home into 5060. Yeah. Now Miller Gas and something that’s wired and grounded properly and you blow out that whole grid, you do turn it. The dirty electricity is in the spectrum of 4000 to 100000 ways per second. That’s where the static comes in. You turn that into static just as like someone would have solar on their homes.

01:03:02:21 – 01:03:31:05
Justin Frandson
We’ve been lied to. Even fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are fuels from fossils, from dinosaurs like they’re not. Fossil fuels aren’t what we think of as fossil fuels. We’ve been lied to in all these different ways. These are precious minerals that are mined, dirty mined. The extraction process is devastating for those populations. And and and then they’re dirty all the way around.

01:03:31:05 – 01:04:01:08
Justin Frandson
So, look, I’m I’m all for making as much money as someone can, but we got to clean up our act like we got we got to clean up a lot of the extraction processes, whether it’s mining or what have you or going for oil, getting oil fracking or or gas, what have you. We got to clean up those systems and not do it at all cost.

01:04:01:08 – 01:04:24:09
Justin Frandson
But because we do it at all costs, they’re given a bad rap, but they’re not as bad a combustion engine. I would much rather, you know, use that right now over the others. Diesel’s not carcinogenic. Clean diesel doesn’t cause cancer. That’s been another lie that we’ve had to deal with. Just because you can see the smog doesn’t mean it’s going to cause cancer.

01:04:24:14 – 01:04:47:10
Justin Frandson
Clean diesel is equally as good as the other fuels for us. So and again, they’re heavy metals we can clear, we can kill it, we can flush stuff we got to unlearn and get back into, you know, the systems that work that are the minerals are there for us to utilize but not do it at all costs.

01:04:47:20 – 01:05:19:17
Nathan Crane
Well, I mean, look at the inventor of the diesel engine. I think it was Rudolf Diesel, right. Like late 1800s, early 1900s timeframe. Correct. When he showcased the diesel engine, he showed that it could run on vegetable oil like the original diesel engine, as we know, it can run on biodiesel. And there’s a lot of diesels. I don’t think you can convert newer diesels now, but there’s still like in the last 20 years, a lot of those diesels can be converted to biodiesel, you know, and just run on vegetable oil, right?

01:05:19:17 – 01:05:42:04
Nathan Crane
So there’s there is a lot of options. Is that going to happen? Probably not. There’s too many, you know, big too much money involved, right. I mean, look at this huge push for, I guess, huge push for electric vehicles. And look how I mean, Tesla being one of the largest, most profitable companies in the world. And now all these other companies, I think BMW, has an electric you know, Ford’s putting out electric.

01:05:42:04 – 01:05:43:23
Nathan Crane
Like everyone’s going in that direction.

01:05:44:11 – 01:06:09:00
Justin Frandson
So they’re going into hybrids, though. They’re going they’re literally going out. The infrastructure will never be there. It’s never going to be there in AI takes five times the amount of electricity on the grid. So with this, I push with if half the U.S. is in a multifamily home, there will never be a grid to support this electrical rollout.

01:06:09:00 – 01:06:41:13
Justin Frandson
It just is unsustainable. So we have all these things. We’re already seeing a shift into hybrids because no one wants to wait that long to charge a car. And then plus people are realizing they feel like crap inside these cars. And unfortunately, to be fair, all new cars and even combustion or not, you feel like crap because you have Bluetooth, wi fi cellular, you have GPUs and broad spectrum and it’s all in close proximity.

01:06:42:00 – 01:06:56:00
Justin Frandson
The one thing that tips the scale with electrical cars is you’re sitting on a massive battery farm. I can’t even make that up that that’s good for you. They just can’t. It’s it’s never, ever been touted as being good for you and never will be.

01:06:56:15 – 01:07:18:11
Nathan Crane
Mm. I don’t like the idea of I thought about getting a Tesla, but I’m glad I haven’t, I don’t like the idea of like the whole car being controlled by, you know, the, the company itself and all. Can it complete the whole car’s like completely connected to, you know, run on Wi-Fi and cellular signal and things like that.

01:07:18:11 – 01:07:37:08
Nathan Crane
It can literally start your car for you or shut it down. Like that’s going so far into a dystopian, you know, viewpoint of the world or like the companies that you are buying for your sense of freedom actually have complete control over your entire life. Right.

01:07:37:08 – 01:07:57:18
Justin Frandson
I’m I’m I’m with you on that one, man. I mean, this is this is a huge conversation. If your electricity goes off in the car and people don’t know how to open those on the manual levers to get out, they’re stuck in their car. You can die in some of those situations like this. These cars aren’t great for you.

01:07:57:18 – 01:08:20:08
Justin Frandson
Even some of the newer cars, they’re mostly computerized now. And so they’re tracking and can shut you down too. But definitely electric cars they they govern how much usage you can get out of your battery already. They’re already governing that so they can shut you down in an instant. It’s a fire hazard. They’re filling up their landfills with acid, with dead batteries.

01:08:21:00 – 01:08:55:24
Justin Frandson
I mean, and then you get into this whole tracking, tracing and controlling thing what what I’ve seen, which is crazy from being working with professional athletes to identifying the stressors our environment, to understanding electricity at levels that I’m sharing with you today and to make it into common sense for everyone. The next steps gone into cybersecurity. And because I’m starting to see this surveillance marketing, all of our apps have 1 to 15 trackers.

01:08:55:24 – 01:09:22:20
Justin Frandson
They’re tracking our gait, how fast we drive. Like, literally, they know all your bank accounts, they know all your passcodes, who you voted for, where you live, the all your biometrics, which are your single most unique identifiers, your finger, your palm, print, your retina, scan your voice, your face. They know all of that. This is crazy. We’re just giving them this information and then we’re using it for commerce.

01:09:22:20 – 01:09:40:09
Justin Frandson
So let’s use our thumbprint to get in this car. Well, what if that thumbprint gets shut down or stolen? I mean, this stuff is just crazy. You can’t get into your car. You can’t access this stuff. So let’s go back to getting a key and using that so we can have our freedoms back for sure.

01:09:40:17 – 01:10:07:23
Nathan Crane
I saw they started rolling out and you can pay with your palm at Whole Foods and I like the first time I saw it, I looked at that thing and I was like, I just wanted to like rip it out of there. I was like, I will I will never you will literally have to force me to do something like that, pay with a chip in my arm or use my palm or fingerprints or something like that’s the direction want to go because it’s easier to control people that way.

01:10:07:23 – 01:10:27:09
Nathan Crane
Right? Like we know in China covered they could force you to stay at home or you had to go to grocery store at certain times or if the thing on your phone was red, you couldn’t go into a grocery store. Like that’s literally they’re just, you know, slowly rolling those things out here in the United States. If if we allow it, though, that’s really what it is.

01:10:27:09 – 01:10:45:17
Nathan Crane
Right? It’s like if we if we consent towards it, like all this stuff requires consent, you know, people go, Oh, yeah, it’s convenient. I have take my wallet, I’ll just use my palm. Yeah, but look at the bigger picture of what you’re doing. You’re literally allowing your corporations to have your biometrics to be able to, you know, take payment from you.

01:10:45:17 – 01:11:05:24
Nathan Crane
And guess what happens if they’re like, Oh, sorry, you’ve been a bad boy. You didn’t take the shot we told you to take or you didn’t do this. You didn’t do that. Sorry. You can’t have fun today. Go home. Right? Like that’s literally what has rolled out in other countries. And, you know, if we just permit that here, what are we doing with our freedoms?

01:11:05:24 – 01:11:25:12
Nathan Crane
I mean, it’s it’s it is definitely disturbing. Think about it makes you think like I’m going out and being a monk and, living in the caves actually sounds kind of nice right about now, but that’s not really realistic for most of us. So, you know, what do we do? What do we do? We do what we can you know, living in fear about this stuff is not helpful either.

01:11:25:12 – 01:11:59:16
Nathan Crane
I don’t like the fear monger. I don’t like to, you know, get people in their fearful space because that makes it worse. The fear downregulate your immune system. Right? It even makes things worse. So it’s like, okay, here’s the reality and what can we do about it? What are our solutions and how can we empower ourselves and how can we protect ourselves and actually, you know, and be at peace, you know, practice meditation, qigong, yoga, pranayama, breath, work things to keep our nervous system, regulate it get into nature, you know, bring nature to us into our homes, like all the things to keep ourselves at peace.

01:11:59:16 – 01:12:16:09
Nathan Crane
Because at the end of the day, that’s the only thing we have right now. Only thing we actually have control over is how we feel and what we do with our mind and with our own spiritual practice. That’s the only thing we truly control over. I mean, this body is going to go away, right? This life is going to go away.

01:12:16:09 – 01:12:35:10
Nathan Crane
This house is going to go away. One day we won’t have any of this stuff. So none of it really matters. At the end of day what really matters, I think is like, are you happy? Are you peaceful? Are you do you feel good about yourself, about your life, about your connection to God, to spirit? I think at the end of the day, that’s that’s what’s most important, at least to me.

01:12:36:02 – 01:13:00:09
Justin Frandson
Yeah, for sure. And these little things that we talked about in the beginning, like just understanding how you feel those are tests that they’re doing. They’re saying, how much of can we infiltrate into your space? And it’s a test with a smartwatch. It’s the test with the earbud. It’s a test with with a with every device that we’re we’re being rolled out at.

01:13:00:15 – 01:13:33:18
Justin Frandson
These are all tests, and they’re just testing us along the way. Well, can we do palm prints? Can we do electric cars? Can we do fingerprints to pay for stuff for palm prints or retina scans or face imprints so we don’t have to enter a passcode like they’re all tests that they’re rolling out. And the more we can slow those tests down and use our purchase power to make the right choices and then by combustion cars pay a little more, but by an car like literally by an older car and put a little into it.

01:13:34:02 – 01:13:59:20
Justin Frandson
But you’re slowing down that data harvesting, that aggregation of information and you’re raising your consciousness at the same time because you’re not having a stressor on you. And that’s where we got to get you, because we’re just our whole goal is to raise that consciousness. Because you’re right, we do choose where it’s our choice, how we respond to situations, and we can create these.

01:13:59:20 – 01:14:33:24
Justin Frandson
So if essentially our body doesn’t know the difference between memory, reality and imagination, we’re in this time warp. We can we can create what we want in our future by our intention and our visions, and seeing a taste in smelling it, create, evoking emotions with that. So let’s create this awareness for the whole world to start to see this stuff and understand the stuff and then make the right purchasing powers and choices to optimize our health and performance.

01:14:34:10 – 01:14:44:17
Nathan Crane
Yeah, exactly. I want to hear a little bit more about these grounding bags that you have, though, and a little bit of the you know, you said you had some science on that and how they work like in Curious. Curious.

01:14:44:20 – 01:15:06:19
Justin Frandson
Yeah, definitely. So when I got into this space, I wanted to look into nature’s resonance to see how it could help heal. And I found a doctor using these products and successfully to treat his patients and and God got the rights to the mine. And so here we are. We rolled out EMF rocks are grounding bags EMF rock scone.

01:15:07:12 – 01:15:37:02
Justin Frandson
It’s of the leading natural EMF protection products and all the are hand mined crystals. It’s nature’s resonance in a bag. So it’s just like walking barefoot and bag. Nathan You this resonance into your home doctor Ronnie White sleep test shows you sleep up to 60% deeper Dr. Bare Orlando’s waveform test with this dual impedance antennas shows the grounding bags clinically passively treat up to 91% of the markers that are off.

01:15:37:02 – 01:15:41:12
Nathan Crane
So which passengers are they looking at?

01:15:42:00 – 01:15:45:18
Justin Frandson
All the biomarkers that your body would be often has.

01:15:45:20 – 01:15:49:08
Nathan Crane
These are these are like electrical biomarkers are they’re doing like blood tests.

01:15:50:01 – 01:15:52:06
Justin Frandson
No, he did energy tests. Energy field.

01:15:52:12 – 01:15:53:24
Nathan Crane
Energy field tests. Okay.

01:15:53:24 – 01:15:59:06
Justin Frandson
Interesting. Yeah. So, yeah, there’s detailed on our website on Dr. Bare Berland.

01:16:01:08 – 01:16:23:10
Justin Frandson
So anything that would be off the grounding bags treat it up to 91%. So if you want to actively treat the other cool thing with our product, the crystals have moisture and magnetic properties in them. They’re different than anything. So shanghaied amethysts, black tourmaline, all the other non crystals that have magnetic properties, they don’t have moisture content on them.

01:16:23:18 – 01:16:42:15
Justin Frandson
That’s what makes these so special different. And no one’s seen them before because when they admired them they turn to dust were the first to mine them and seal them and bring them to market. So when you put these on your bed, you sleep up to 60% better, you put it in your space, you heal up to 91% or more.

01:16:43:12 – 01:17:09:10
Justin Frandson
That’s passively actively. When I talked about EMF stuck in your bio field, you can use these just like a tuning fork and to clear your bile field of any stuck EMF, the way you do it is just tap on a tap on the back. It’ll up to ten extra energy. Do it for about 20 seconds. Then you could cover your eyes, your teeth, your thymus, which is your upper upper chest.

01:17:09:10 – 01:17:27:18
Justin Frandson
That’s your electrical system for the body or your intestines below your bellybutton. Tap on it, and cover those areas one at a time for about 20 seconds each, and you will be able to recharge your body battery, be able to heal because it’s tough to heal when you’re discharged.

01:17:28:19 – 01:17:38:23
Nathan Crane
So these these crystals, like if I put it in my bedroom or whatever, like how close do they have to be for you to get the benefit from them?

01:17:39:10 – 01:17:47:16
Justin Frandson
So at least one grounding bag on your bed, you’ll sleep up to 60% deeper. You put at least one on your desk.

01:17:47:16 – 01:17:50:06
Nathan Crane
Does it have to be on your bed or going to be on my nightstand?

01:17:50:22 – 01:18:08:13
Justin Frandson
Oh, it’s got to be touching your bed on or on your bed at the head of the bed is where I like it. When you’re clearing a source, which would be a bed desk or car seat, you want it touching it. If you’re clearing an environment five of these together, five of these grounding bags together will clear 2000 square feet.

01:18:08:13 – 01:18:13:02
Justin Frandson
If you have solar, you need seven. If you drive electric car, you need seven.

01:18:13:02 – 01:18:23:01
Nathan Crane
So you put so you put one on your desk or you work on your bed where you sleep, wherever you spend the most time you would have one like clothes needs to be kind of close to your body.

01:18:23:14 – 01:18:43:02
Justin Frandson
Yeah. And you can move one to the other of budgets to concerned. Start with one, put it on your bed, move it to your desk when you’re working and then when you can build up to five, put five in your home. Claire 2000 square feet. If you drive a Tesla and you don’t want 18% lower testosterone, you got to have seven directly behind the driver’s seat.

01:18:43:02 – 01:19:02:11
Justin Frandson
There’s just too much of a stressor in there and go through the tapping protocols before you use them. The last 2 to 3 years. So there is a shelf life on these, which is a selling point for me because everything has an expiration date. They’re the products that are just like, Oh, these things last forever. They’re always protected.

01:19:02:22 – 01:19:18:22
Justin Frandson
Yeah, you got to run for the hills on those. These are the last two or three years. As long as they’re can you keep them skin sealed? Excuse me? You use them as is. Keep them sealed. Keep them out of here. Keep them out of the laundry. The last for a couple of years. And then you got to get new ones.

01:19:19:09 – 01:19:21:00
Nathan Crane
Why? Why is that? Why do.

01:19:21:00 – 01:19:46:23
Justin Frandson
They. Because they when they lose their form, they lose their function for EMF protection. When the moisture content expires, they turn white, oxidized and they’re no longer effective for EMF protection. Then they just become nutrient dense minerals for your plants. But you got to you got to have the moisture with the magnetic and we can only preserve it for a couple of years with them the way they are.

01:19:47:04 – 01:20:05:02
Justin Frandson
You can recharge them once a month if you want by. Putting them out on the lawn, in the shade, on the grass, you know, just lay them down for 15 to 20 minutes. That’ll give them a little extra bump. You don’t have to if you’re in a cold climate and you can’t get outside for several months, no big deal.

01:20:05:02 – 01:20:23:10
Justin Frandson
We have browning bags in our home that I haven’t grounded in years. I still feel they work well, so, yeah, that’s. That’s, that’s how we use them and we sell them through doctor clinics all around the country. So it’s one of the leading natural EMF protection products out there.

01:20:23:20 – 01:20:26:18
Nathan Crane
What kind of mineral is it? What kind of crystal is it? What’s it called?

01:20:26:18 – 01:20:35:02
Justin Frandson
We call it a colloidal crystal because it’s been compressed from an underground water source. So it has some moisture with the magnetic properties.

01:20:35:02 – 01:20:44:02
Nathan Crane
Mm hmm. And so how is it different from, like, if I had just, like, a quartz crystal that I was holding on to, is that going to do something similar?

01:20:44:02 – 01:21:04:17
Justin Frandson
Yeah. Again, the moisture content. So these you have to keep sealed. We hot cinnamon here, we put them inside of here. This is how you use quartz amethyst black tourmaline. They don’t have the moisture content and so I can’t wear this per se like as jewelry and show how beautiful these pink crystals are. I love to display them.

01:21:04:17 – 01:21:20:00
Justin Frandson
They would oxidize. They would literally turn to dust if I did it that way. We just can’t do it that way. So because of that and I, I, we have to deploy them a certain way, and then they have an expiration on them.

01:21:20:10 – 01:21:23:13
Nathan Crane
Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah. What’s what’s your website again?

01:21:24:15 – 01:21:44:05
Justin Frandson
EMF rock stock. Com. And then you could find all of our curated health products on athleticism icon. We have toothpastes and mocktails and essential oils, all of the frequency resonances of the earth in products that you can bring into your environment to restore health and and performance.

01:21:44:19 – 01:22:17:07
Nathan Crane
Very cool. Yeah, I’d love to try. I’d love to try them out and see if I notice any difference. I’m yeah. Like I said, I signed back up for the Woohp to track my sleep again recently. But now I’m like, after a conversation, I’m like, yeah, it’s party time to cancel it again. It’s, you know, even though I take time away from it pretty often, it’s just, you know, I have found it helpful and in just the mindset of like focusing on sleep, but that’s already there in me as well, like how important this is for me.

01:22:17:07 – 01:22:26:01
Nathan Crane
So yeah, they’re worth it. Is it worth it for that constant? You know, Bluetooth on the body? That’s the question.

01:22:26:13 – 01:22:45:22
Justin Frandson
No, not at all. And Nathan, you’re already there. Just get in that circadian rhythm with nature when it’s dark outside and make your environment dark. Yet the resonance of your room is low and slow and as close to nature as possible. Get a timer on your electrical panel that. Turns off all the electricity in your bedrooms at night.

01:22:46:05 – 01:23:08:20
Justin Frandson
Get an outlet timer for $9 if you have FI. And so the Wi-Fi turns off at night when you’re sleeping. There’s so many simple things. Charge your phones, devices, turn them off, put them on airplane mode, charge them outside of your bedrooms, create that environment and your sleep will just already be there and do some. I love human garages.

01:23:08:20 – 01:23:33:05
Justin Frandson
Fashion maneuvers. Do some fashion maneuvers. You get the silicon, your body get the Irish sea moss in your body, move the facial adhesions, rehydrate and re mineralized. Create that circadian rhythm and that coherence within your environment in all those different ways. And you’re keeping yourself up for success every single day.

01:23:33:05 – 01:24:00:21
Nathan Crane
Yep. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Actually swapped out most of the bulbs in our, in our other house for we moved here. Every bulb in the house was a blue light blocking bulb. But there’s a couple of lights in this house. We too to that. I can’t switch them out for that. So I’m trying to find a better solution. But because I don’t like wearing the glasses at night, you know, the but I’ve swapped out most of bulbs in our house with blue light blocking bulbs, which is, you know, definitely helps in the house too.

01:24:01:03 – 01:24:08:21
Nathan Crane
And then at night, like when I read, I use candles instead of any light. Yeah. Way, which is awesome. I love a good beeswax candle. You know that natural light.

01:24:09:14 – 01:24:10:21
Justin Frandson
That’s what I was going to recommend.

01:24:11:02 – 01:24:35:13
Nathan Crane
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, exactly. But yeah, a lot of these things definitely help with sleep. I experiment with a lot of these different things. We have blackout curtains in the room, right? We turn. I turn all the electricity off, you know, phones off on airplane mode, like all that stuff. It definitely makes a difference in your quality of sleep and you’re really and then every morning, you know, doing my breathwork meditation, go outside, get the sunlight.

01:24:35:21 – 01:24:56:01
Nathan Crane
First thing is, it’s coming up at night. I’m trying as much as possible to like at least watch the sunset or be like around outdoors as the sun is going down. I don’t usually get to see the sunset where we live, but I’m you know, if it’s I know it’s like, okay, 7:00 the sun start to go down trying to be around that because I know that really helps with circadian rhythm as well.

01:24:57:12 – 01:25:17:17
Nathan Crane
Grounding, being barefoot on the earth, you know, whenever you can throughout the day, like all these things make a difference. We just flew to California from Florida and it’s like a three hour difference and it was a super early flight and didn’t sleep much. You know, like first thing we did went down there, got barefoot on the sand, you know, walked around in the ocean, like just connect to the earth.

01:25:18:00 – 01:25:36:15
Nathan Crane
And I had so much more energy the rest of that day, you know, and got connected into, you know, when you’re travel, it’s like a three hour difference. Or I was in Africa recently on a humanitarian mission and that was like a it was like a crazy difference. I can’t remember what that was. That was like an eight hour or a 12 hour difference or something over in Kenya.

01:25:36:15 – 01:26:01:18
Nathan Crane
And, you know, just getting used to that was just all I do is get outside, get barefoot first thing in the morning. Right? Get that sunshine. And I mean, I adapted to that time zone change like really quick. It all this stuff really does make a difference. Yeah. Awesome so MF rocks dot com and anywhere else people can connect with you social media places like that.

01:26:02:10 – 01:26:34:17
Justin Frandson
Yeah athleticism dot com eye athleticism, neuro stocking on Instagram and then at MF Rock’s Instagram. I do take over human garages Instagram every Friday, noon Pacific Time. It’s a great shot. I have some huge, you know, fun gaffes. Got to get you on it as well. But they have about a million followers on their on their Instagram. So check me out on there pretty much every Friday I go on live and yeah, I appreciate you having me on.

01:26:34:17 – 01:26:39:18
Nathan Crane
Nathan Awesome. Justin Yeah, good. Good to get to know you a little bit here. Thanks for coming on, man. I appreciate it.

01:26:40:09 – 01:26:41:02
Justin Frandson
Likewise.

01:26:41:14 – 01:26:42:10
Nathan Crane
All right. Take care.