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00:00:00:00 – 00:00:11:12
Nathan Crane
Today, I am joined by the one and only the legendary Pete Bissonnette, the longtime president and founder of Learning Strategies. Pete, my man, thanks for coming on the podcast.

00:00:11:21 – 00:00:13:15
Pete Bissonette
Nathan Great to be here. Thank you.

00:00:14:01 – 00:00:37:08
Nathan Crane
You know, I heard about learning strategies. Probably the first time I think I heard about your company was maybe ten years ago in Santa Fe by some good friends of mine who were just talking very highly of learning strategies. I didn’t really know what it was and then what was funny is I had another friend that then I sat down with for lunch and he said he used to be a part of learning strategies as well.

00:00:37:08 – 00:00:55:08
Nathan Crane
And I was just like, Man, this is learning strategies. Keeps coming up, keeps coming up. And then. And then. Tom an acquaintance of ours. McCarthy Yeah. Then he said, Oh my gosh, Pete is amazing, is president of Learning Strategies. We’ve got to have him a part of the Holistic Leadership Council. And so and then I met you and I was like, you know what?

00:00:55:13 – 00:01:08:12
Nathan Crane
What an incredible person who’s done so much with learning strategies. I mean, literally reaching millions of people with personal development and self-help and spiritual programs, you know, for what, over 20 years at this point, I think was.

00:01:08:12 – 00:01:09:12
Pete Bissonette
Over 40 years.

00:01:09:18 – 00:01:11:02
Nathan Crane
Over 40 years.

00:01:11:08 – 00:01:12:21
Pete Bissonette
Founded in 1981.

00:01:13:02 – 00:01:30:12
Nathan Crane
And I meet you and I wouldn’t you know, I wouldn’t know anything about it. I mean, you’re so humble, so down to earth and, you know, you’ve been transforming millions of people’s lives. It’s just incredible. So first time having you on the podcast, I’m excited to even get to know you, even better and share what your. Yeah. Community.

00:01:31:05 – 00:01:36:03
Pete Bissonette
Excellent. Yeah, I am game to talk about anything. I’m so glad to be here with you.

00:01:36:11 – 00:01:40:16
Nathan Crane
All right. So tell me all about your childhood. Let’s start there.

00:01:41:07 – 00:01:42:06
Pete Bissonette
Okay. Well, okay.

00:01:42:15 – 00:01:45:20
Nathan Crane
I was. I was testing, you know, testing to see if you’re really game.

00:01:46:08 – 00:01:52:14
Pete Bissonette
Well, yeah. Well, let me tell you about my childhood, because when I was four years old, I mapped out my whole life to my mom.

00:01:52:22 – 00:01:53:06
Nathan Crane
Really?

00:01:53:17 – 00:02:16:17
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. And she’s doing dishes in the kitchen, and I come into the kitchen with my notebook, which was just a piece of cardboard folded in half. We came from a very non well-to-do family, and I said, Mom, when I graduate from college and she just turned around and looked at me, you know, how did I what I hear about college?

00:02:16:17 – 00:02:43:10
Pete Bissonette
I was four years old at the time, and she says, I’m going to use computers now. This was 1959, right? And computers. And I said, I’m going to put on parades and carnivals and then when I turn 30, I’m going to start working with the human mind. Well, I graduated from college. I got an Apple two computer with serial number 14,000.

00:02:43:15 – 00:03:12:12
Pete Bissonette
So it’s one of the first ones. And I used it to put on golf tournaments, tennis tournaments, professional rodeos, all that kind of stuff through my twenties. Then when I turned 30, I met Paul Shealy, who’s my partner with Learning Strategies for Learning Strategies for Learning Strategies. So it was just as I had told Mom back then was also interesting is that I had a huge sandbox.

00:03:12:12 – 00:03:30:12
Pete Bissonette
My dad just made me a great sandbox farm. I took toys and Tonka trucks and all that kind of stuff and all the neighborhood kids wanted to play in it. Well, I had a rule if we’re going to play in the sandbox, we have to first play publisher and mom would set up TV trays in the living room.

00:03:30:16 – 00:03:50:02
Pete Bissonette
I had a little bolt toy ball. You know, with the dial on it. And yeah, the door would open up in the Bellwood ring and we would sit there for oh not much more than half an hour with magazines and we had our pens and we circled every dot in the magazine. So you know, the eyes, the JS, the periods.

00:03:50:02 – 00:03:56:00
Pete Bissonette
Nicole And that’s what publishers did. And so even then I knew that I’d be in the publishing business.

00:03:57:03 – 00:04:02:04
Nathan Crane
And that’s a learning process, is Learning Strategies has been a publishing company for 40 plus years, right?

00:04:02:04 – 00:04:03:01
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. Yeah.

00:04:03:11 – 00:04:11:08
Nathan Crane
I mean, even you’ve done a lot of print stuff over there. I know you do a lot of online stuff. You guys have a new app and things like that. But you’ve been basically print publishing for a long time, too.

00:04:11:08 – 00:04:36:16
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, yeah. Print publishing. Our biggest has been audio. So cassette tapes to CDs to digital, now to the app. So one of the things that we always did when we wanted to create the programs is that we we created our programs had to be experiential and not just somebody talking where you can learn about something. And the other thing that we had to do, because the only way to disseminate back in those days was cassette tape.

00:04:36:16 – 00:04:54:23
Pete Bissonette
And you can have 34 minutes on one side of a cassette tape. Our sessions needed to be 34 minutes or less, which meant we had to highly script everything, which meant we weren’t able to. You know, today you can do a session and you can ramble on and on and you don’t just have a half an hour for your session.

00:04:54:23 – 00:05:13:17
Pete Bissonette
You could do an hour, hour and a half. It doesn’t matter. But back then we had to do 34 minutes or less. So we had to be really concise and very careful about what it is that we’re putting it on the cassette tapes so that we could so that the client can listen to it and get the full benefit from it without needing anything further.

00:05:14:04 – 00:05:35:11
Pete Bissonette
So then when we went to CDs and you could get up over just 70 some minutes, it kind of changed everything from there too. But we were, you know, we came from the the thing where when we had a program, we spent years developing it before we would release it because it had to be just right. And it was so expensive to go in the studio and do the the mastering and all of that in those days.

00:05:35:11 – 00:05:38:00
Pete Bissonette
So that was how we began.

00:05:38:07 – 00:06:00:23
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Now you can just like record your phone, upload. You could hire someone for like 20 bucks to edit it for you and then boom, you got an MP three for iTunes or wherever you want to send it, right? It’s like it’s so crazy. I remember I used to have a Walkman when I was a kid, so, you know, I remember the cassette tapes really well and I’d walk around listening to them and stuff like that, listen things on tape and yeah, it was like 34 minutes.

00:06:00:23 – 00:06:14:04
Nathan Crane
Flip it over to 4 minutes of tapes done. You know, nowadays it’s like I remember when I got my first iPod and then it was like I had like 30,000 songs on there or something. I was like, This is crazy.

00:06:15:07 – 00:06:15:16
Pete Bissonette
Yeah.

00:06:15:24 – 00:06:22:14
Nathan Crane
And I want to go back to what you said. I got to go back to this. The Apple two computer.

00:06:23:04 – 00:06:23:11
Pete Bissonette
Yeah.

00:06:23:19 – 00:06:27:09
Nathan Crane
So this was it, huh? This was the Apple two. I wasn’t around for that one.

00:06:27:17 – 00:06:55:10
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, that’s the Apple two. And I had to have a TV. It was a 19 inch black and white TV set that I used as a monitor. So and see, I got it in 1978. Okay. And at the time, you can see on the left there the two little disk drives underneath. At the time, they didn’t even have disk drives and I got the number two disk drive, sent it to the state in Minnesota.

00:06:55:20 – 00:07:19:17
Pete Bissonette
Number one was my friend David, who owned the top tech store that actually brought Apple first into Minnesota. And so I got the the disk drive in one of those three and a quarter inch floppy disk, whatever size it was. Yeah, yeah. 112 K of memory on a floppy disk and now you type, you name it, it’s 112 K right now.

00:07:19:17 – 00:07:38:01
Nathan Crane
I was like, we’re talking terabytes. I have like a terabyte drives, backup drives for the video files. Right? We’re doing 4K videos that are like gigabyte videos. It’s crazy. And this was. Yeah. And what could you do on this? I mean, there was typing. You could you could do software programing on this one. Can you.

00:07:38:03 – 00:07:56:07
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, that’s what I did. I did the like for the golf tournament, I did the programing for the database for the all of our golfers that also it was to raise money. So we kept track of all the pledges and everything on it. And then with learning strategies, that’s what we used to build a database for learning strategies.

00:07:56:17 – 00:08:21:09
Pete Bissonette
And on that same apple and it’s we had a stack of this like this to do everything and and then we ended up building, we got Macs, we ended up building a database using four D, which is we started off as a French company, and that’s how we built our database in 1988. We still using it.

00:08:21:24 – 00:08:22:11
Nathan Crane
Really?

00:08:22:19 – 00:08:46:05
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. And it now is a very robust and incredible machine and database for handling everything that we need. But we started building because they didn’t have off the shelf shelf programs back in those days. We had to build it. And then one the off the shelf programs came along. Our database was better than what the shell programs were, so we just kept using and using it.

00:08:46:10 – 00:08:51:09
Pete Bissonette
We tried to move away from it, but we can’t because it is so robust.

00:08:51:18 – 00:09:17:05
Nathan Crane
Oh, wow. That’s pretty incredible. Yeah. That you created something in 1988 that you’re still using today. That’s pretty unheard of. I know. Know that from 1988 aren’t even running today, you know. So I want to go into the esoteric, spiritual side of your mind off of this four year old. How do you how do you perceive your four year old self new?

00:09:17:19 – 00:09:29:07
Nathan Crane
What do the rest of your life was going to be like in your twenties and thirties and forties and fifties? Like how do you think your four year old self was able to know that?

00:09:29:07 – 00:09:51:24
Pete Bissonette
I don’t know, other than I had a lot of invisible friends and there were ghosts. And too, when I’m telling my friends about them, nobody believed them. So I had to make a ghost machine. So I took a two by four, which was about maybe this long. And then I found some stuff, my dad’s workshop in the garage, and now the turn of the screw to two.

00:09:51:24 – 00:10:15:19
Pete Bissonette
It looked like it was a machine, a twirly thing in a spring or whatever. That was a ghost machine. So I could talk to my ghosts and we could play with the kit. So I had a connection at that time to the other world, and that could have been how it was coming to me. But I know that when I had my notebook I was really serious and I don’t know what I had written in my notebook, but I remember looking down to it.

00:10:16:11 – 00:10:20:02
Pete Bissonette
So I imagine it had something to do with that.

00:10:21:03 – 00:10:43:23
Nathan Crane
Now, do you think it was it was a do you think it was a premonition of kind of your destiny, your your karma in this life? Or do you think you you could have created it for yourself through some kind of I mean, how does a four year old even know about publishing and and all those things? Anyway, your first question, but let’s say you did you watch some I don’t know.

00:10:43:23 – 00:10:54:10
Nathan Crane
There weren’t many shows back then, right? Yeah. Yeah, I still, you know, radio two channels. Yeah. You had a couple of channels, right? Yeah. How would you even know about these things in the first place?

00:10:54:17 – 00:11:20:00
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. You know, I think that I was I came into here with what my purpose was already within me, and I was somehow or another able to connect into it and then move forward through it. When you look at what I did in my twenties, so I half the time was where those events, you know, the sporting events, the other half the time was writings I wrote for magazines, newspapers and that.

00:11:20:00 – 00:11:40:13
Pete Bissonette
And so when Paul Schilling and I got together for learning strategies, it was if everything that I had been doing during that the previous ten years led up to what we’re doing at the learning strategies. So when we got together, Paul was our subject matter expert. He was the guru. He created the programs. He had his brain that thought that way.

00:11:40:13 – 00:12:08:19
Pete Bissonette
He had his expertize in neural linguistic programing, whole brain learning and pre conscious processing. Me, I was about the communication. I was about being able to communicate with people through the written word. And also because of all the events that we did, I knew how to put on events that really attracted people. So we had to fill arenas and, and so when we so everything then led to learning strategies when Paul and I got together for that.

00:12:09:05 – 00:12:09:14
Pete Bissonette
Mhm.

00:12:10:09 – 00:12:23:10
Nathan Crane
So when you had, when you had these ghost friends. Right. Yeah. These invisible beings. Like how do you remember any of your conversations with them when you were a kid and how old were you until they started kind of like disappearing.

00:12:23:16 – 00:12:25:03
Pete Bissonette
Tell those six.

00:12:25:03 – 00:12:26:14
Nathan Crane
Okay. So 46.

00:12:26:19 – 00:12:45:01
Pete Bissonette
46. Yeah. Maybe a little bit before four and but by six I don’t remember anything after age six. So at one point back in the 1990s, I met this couple from India and they did a rice reading. Have you ever done a rice reading?

00:12:46:21 – 00:12:49:13
Nathan Crane
I’m not sure. Not not like intentionally.

00:12:49:21 – 00:12:51:02
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. So the rice.

00:12:51:02 – 00:12:53:04
Nathan Crane
Reading, it’s like a past life thing or what is it?

00:12:53:11 – 00:13:15:15
Pete Bissonette
No, it’s like, you know, reading tea leaves. So they put the you’re the people, those who can read leaves, read the pattern of the leaves that are in the cup. So they gave me rice and I tossed the rice onto a like a napkin. And then based on how it landed there, they could tell meetings and they told me all about my friends.

00:13:15:16 – 00:13:30:12
Pete Bissonette
They told me about that age range that that’s when the portal opened up for me and when it closed. So I hadn’t told them anything about that before that conversation. That was just like out of the blue and it just fit with my life so that.

00:13:32:16 – 00:13:49:14
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that’s incredible. I mean, I had a, I had a session with like a psychic. I think we all have psychic powers. It’s do we turn them on or not? Right. Yeah. Oh, like going to say a psychic is like all of us at some point have intuitive hits or kind of everybody’s had that experience that I’ve ever talked to of.

00:13:49:14 – 00:14:07:16
Nathan Crane
Like, they’re thinking of someone, then that person calls them right away. Yeah. Like that’s that’s a little taste of, like, our psychic abilities, but people are really tuned in psychically. Like, I had a session with a woman a few months ago and yeah, I mean, she. She told me things that there’s no way she could have known. Like, I’ve never told those things to anybody.

00:14:07:16 – 00:14:26:00
Nathan Crane
She was talking my, my great grandmother who had passed away years ago, was there in the room with me. And like she told me, I had a question about something with one of my businesses and she told me exactly what I need to do. And it was like I went into tears because I was like, that’s that’s what I needed to hear, you know, like, yeah, that’s exactly what I needed to hear.

00:14:26:00 – 00:14:44:22
Nathan Crane
I knew that internally, but I was kind of, you know, denying it, if you will, or avoiding it. And yeah, those kinds of experiences are very, very powerful. I mean, I think there are some people out there who are, let’s say, charlatans, right? But I think, oh, yeah, yeah, very genuine, psychically connected people as well.

00:14:45:12 – 00:15:19:20
Pete Bissonette
And then also the other things that just happen on a day to day how you know, you just know things will be happening. So I just I’m right in the middle of one right now. So yesterday morning I woke up and my chest was so for the pressure was so tight and everything and what the heck. And I went out to Google, you know, heart attack and all that kind of stuff to see what’s going on and I’m reading everything and I use chat TV and it was kind of diagnosing myself to see if I should run into the emergency room and I decide to go to the club instead to work out.

00:15:20:22 – 00:15:40:10
Pete Bissonette
But all day long it just was and it would come and go about every 7 minutes to 20 minutes. And it was and sometimes it would just stop me in the middle of the conversation. And I went to bed last night and I said, okay, I just going to try to lay down and just sleep, see if I can get through the night.

00:15:40:10 – 00:16:01:12
Pete Bissonette
I had a good night’s sleep, woke up, had a little bit of it this morning, not much. Then I got a telephone call from somebody at the office. One of our folks who’ve been with us for 17 years, since I heard her voice. It just all in here. I almost yelped like a dog. She was calling to say that she was leaving.

00:16:01:12 – 00:16:24:00
Pete Bissonette
So I knew the day before something was coming up and it was a real intense stress response to my body because this is somebody that there’s no way I would want to leave because she is just so valuable to us. But she said, you know, I’m turning 50 now and this is I got one last run and I want to do it now.

00:16:24:00 – 00:16:43:14
Pete Bissonette
And she said, I got this offer. And she said, six months ago, it was the farthest thing from her head. But this offer came and she paid attention to it and she said, I have to take time. And so those signals are always coming to all of us, all the time. We have to pay attention to them. We have to know what they mean.

00:16:43:14 – 00:17:03:12
Pete Bissonette
I don’t know. I mean, I spent a whole lot of yesterday just thinking, oh, what is this was because I never had anything like that before, but it was like a part of me knew my and I’m thinking more that my body didn’t know how to react to the news that I was about to get. Mm. But asked her when she found, when did you decide that she was going to take it.

00:17:03:12 – 00:17:20:02
Pete Bissonette
She said yesterday afternoon, which meant that, you know, overnight that was out there and it was coming to me and I did not react to it in a way that I probably wish I would have reacted, you know, in a pain freeway.

00:17:20:02 – 00:17:24:14
Nathan Crane
Do you practice qigong or what is your kind of spiritual and meditation practice look like?

00:17:24:21 – 00:17:55:01
Pete Bissonette
Oh, yeah, I do qigong every day, so I’ll do, you know, spring portu-gone which on your land. And every day at 1130 we stream for our clients up to a couple thousand people where we do the practice for half an hour and most mornings. Then too, I will do every morning I either listen to a polemical or I do a meditation and it’s usually one of Chinese meditation, and then I do a yoga and then I usually want to go to the club.

00:17:55:01 – 00:18:14:02
Pete Bissonette
It’s in the afternoon or in the evening, but my guy who’s my trainer, needed to change up the schedule. So I went first thing yesterday morning. So that’s my basic practice. And in the evenings sometimes if I go to bed, I’ll do something to just kind of depending on what’s going on in my life now, but I hardly miss a day now.

00:18:14:02 – 00:18:20:18
Nathan Crane
Do you have all of those things on the on you guys, this new app, is that all on the app now? Is that you going on the app to the app?

00:18:20:18 – 00:18:23:08
Pete Bissonette
The Qigong is not on the app yet, but.

00:18:23:09 – 00:18:25:20
Nathan Crane
I’ve used a pair of limiters on the app and those are.

00:18:25:20 – 00:18:26:13
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, yeah.

00:18:26:19 – 00:18:46:14
Nathan Crane
Those are incredible. I do them in my sauna sometimes and it’s just like, you know, connecting in a deep meditative state and reprograming the subconscious and really connecting to, you know, whether it’s health or finances or business or your deeper purpose or whatever for stress reduction, you name it. Like the parallels are super powerful. You really with that?

00:18:46:15 – 00:19:02:06
Nathan Crane
You know, it’s like left track, right track. It definitely takes you into that deeper state that I get into when I do Pranayama, right? Yeah. Breathwork is will take me into that really deep meditative state. Para elementals seem to do the same thing.

00:19:03:04 – 00:19:26:15
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. And, you know, I love meditation and I love parallel mills. And what I love about the parallels the most is that with the meditation, you want to be focused and you want to be conscious during the meditation with the pair liminal. You can let your mind go and you can fall asleep while listening. Most of them are only about 20 minutes and you will wake up at the end of it automatically because a part of you is always paying attention to it.

00:19:26:24 – 00:20:03:01
Pete Bissonette
So it’s a way for you to be working with your other than conscious mind versus what you would normally do with the meditation, whether it’s just a silent meditation or you’re working with your energy or what have you. And another thing I like about them is that you can you know, we have 70 different titles now and you can take any issue that you have, whether the issue is there’s an obstacle that you need to get past or you have a goal that you want to move toward, a goal you can pick out a parallel and laser right into what your issue is and get a response, a get a session right then and there.

00:20:03:01 – 00:20:22:20
Pete Bissonette
I mean, get results right down there. So you make it a little bit earlier. Nathan That is, you use the word reprograming and the parallels are not so much about reprograming you other than conscious mind or your non-conscious subconscious. It’s more about learning new strategies for what’s going on in your world, how to respond to what’s going on.

00:20:23:03 – 00:20:54:24
Pete Bissonette
That’s what the name of a company comes from. Learning Strategies. So what Paul does is partially who is the developer of the car limit of his. He has deep expertize in neuro linguistic programing. And one of our parallels is the memory supercharger and what he did before we created that is he studied people who had superb memory, absolutely phenomenal memory, and worked with them to figure out what their internal strategies were, how they’re clicking the circuits in their brain.

00:20:55:08 – 00:21:13:15
Pete Bissonette
And then he developed the parallel liminal to guide you through is click and you goes pretty much those same circuits in that same order that you improve your memory. And for most of the parallels you only have to listen to once or twice, and you’ll start to get the results so you get the result you want. If it’s the memory, supercharge your.

00:21:14:00 – 00:21:42:13
Pete Bissonette
If you got a task or something coming up where you really need have memory, you’ll need to list don’t want. But if you want to improve your memory overall, you can listen to it every day for a week or, you know, two weeks, whatever it is that you want to do with that. And it’s kind of neat how Paul took his expertize with that neuro linguistic programing, sort of learning to create these little moments, you know, 20 minute moments away system moments where you can kind of let go and change how you using your subconscious mind.

00:21:43:23 – 00:21:50:01
Nathan Crane
And how did you guys discover parallel minerals? And is there any science that supports like that technique?

00:21:50:15 – 00:22:10:20
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, there’s a lot of science on it and that’s easy to find. You could go to learning strategies and do the three bar menu in the upper left hand corner, and it does look for the foundations of parallel in technology. There’s also the app, but what Paul did is kind of like with what I told my mom back when I was four years old, but this happened for him when he was in his seventies.

00:22:11:06 – 00:22:32:11
Pete Bissonette
The whole thing, the whole idea for the parallels, how they would work and what they were came to him in the 1970s, but he didn’t know what to do with that information when we were working in the early days learning strategies, it was mostly either corporate trainings or individual training seminars. We didn’t have any products or anything like that.

00:22:32:23 – 00:22:53:16
Pete Bissonette
And so one day it was in December of 1987, I asked partially that, Listen, we’ve got this brochure that’s going out to clients, and I get a little space in the bottom of one side. Something else should we do or do we want to do a little workshop or something? And he said, You know how we’ve talked about doing an audiotape?

00:22:54:06 – 00:23:17:04
Pete Bissonette
And I agree. Yeah, he said, Let’s do that. And I said, okay, great. So we put our brains together, spent, I don’t know, a few days on it to figure out if we only had one tape, one program that we would be willing to spend the rest of our life with. What would it be? And we came up with what became the new behavior generator and so sideways.

00:23:17:04 – 00:23:38:05
Pete Bissonette
But reframing so reframing is changing how you’re looking to a responding to what’s going on in your life. And so ideas about modeling behaviors. So the same thing with the memory, the guy who had a great memory, Paul, modeled that person and created the memory supercharger. Well, you can model anything using section B of the new behavior generator.

00:23:38:16 – 00:24:12:12
Pete Bissonette
So we created that. And the technology behind the parallels you mentioned, the multiple voices is really interesting because when you first listen, there’s a little introduction in and then Paul helps you set what your intention is for the for the session. And then you go through a little relaxation period. And then his voice starts to split into two voices, one voice and one area, speaking to one part of your brain, another voice, and the other is speaking to a different part of the brain, the right voice usually is for your logical, analytical left brain.

00:24:12:12 – 00:24:38:07
Pete Bissonette
It’s bringing it to neural, linguistic programing, processes and other things. And the left brain is very intuitive, creative right brain. And that’s where Paul will bring in metaphors and to support the change work that he is, he’s weaving together for you. And it really is weaving because as you listen to a parallel flow so often, Paul will start a sentence in the left ear that finishes up with the voice in the right ear, that starts another sentence that goes over here.

00:24:38:07 – 00:25:04:10
Pete Bissonette
It finishes up this one, it just weaves together. So you really can’t follow along with that. You get into this hypno dog and state ways and all and it’s like you’re just ready to Paul’s sleep and the voices are just dancing around. And what’s interesting is that the technology to create the parallel did not exist until then. There was no way to have the voices travel round your head.

00:25:04:20 – 00:25:33:14
Pete Bissonette
But we met this guy. His name was Brad Johnson, and Paul was telling him what he wanted to do with the parallels. This was in January, February, then at 88, and Brad said, I can do this. And Paul said, What? Well, he was an engineer for Paisley Park, Prince’s studio, and they were the first bay to set a test site for this new tech now digital technology that would allow them to move the voices around a hat they had.

00:25:34:05 – 00:25:58:23
Pete Bissonette
So we’re able to use that in order to create the first pair liminal and then for all of the parallels. So the timing just came so perfect. And the other thing is kind of interesting is that we, we sent out that brochure and we had a hundred people order and we charged $35 of tape for it and we charge $35 because we knew it costs 30 $500 and we could sell 100.

00:25:59:10 – 00:26:39:08
Pete Bissonette
We sent out the first 100 on Friday, April 15th, and then by that Monday we had over 30% of the people when we got to the office had already called and left messages on the machine, tape machine. You know, back in those days it was a tape machine and telling us how much they loved the pair. Liminal, but God had shaken us up the week before in that we had an NLP practitioner training starting up that we had been doing for a number of years, but enrollments were way down and we end up having to cancel it, which was just kind of frightening because we, we needed that money, you know, it was Paul and

00:26:39:08 – 00:26:59:11
Pete Bissonette
me and a part time administrative assistant. We needed the money to operate the business and we didn’t really know what we’re going to do. But we went on and the Monday after that, we got all those calls. We decided, okay, we need to be doing pair Lemnos and we set out a map for the next five that we would create.

00:26:59:19 – 00:27:23:07
Pete Bissonette
And we decided yes, and we set the timelines for it and everything first thing Tuesday morning, we get a call from one of our clients that control data. You know, they’re the folks with the supercomputer. And she said, we’d like to have another photo reading seminar. Can you do one this Thursday? And I said, Well, let me check.

00:27:23:11 – 00:27:38:04
Pete Bissonette
I put the phone on hold and could hardly breathe. Can all of a sudden there was money coming in? And I got back and said yes. I said, We can definitely do it. How many people, etc., etc.. And then and then I said, I got one other favor to ask you. When are we going to get paid for this?

00:27:38:04 – 00:28:00:03
Pete Bissonette
It usually takes six months before you guys pay us, she said. We’ll have a check for you on Thursday. So it was like, Oh yeah, everything was just coming together and God opened up the space so we didn’t have to worry about the NLP training. We could just focus on the parallels and once we focus was made the plan, it took care of us.

00:28:01:03 – 00:28:01:20
Pete Bissonette
Is that cool?

00:28:01:22 – 00:28:21:12
Nathan Crane
It’s so cool. It’s such a powerful story. I mean, it’s so beautiful when you when you’re in alignment with what you’re supposed to be doing, something you’re passionate about, something that’s good for yourself, good for others. And those doors just open, right? It’s like, Yeah, we’ve got to have faith. We got to take one step in front of the other, you know, keep moving forward, even if it looks impossible.

00:28:21:21 – 00:28:40:06
Nathan Crane
Like, and all the walls are closing in. What I’ve learned over the years is if you just stay positive, stay focused, stay focused on solutions and what you’re trying to do, it’s like this door opens, that door opens. It’s like we’re getting a little test along the way, right? Yeah. Do you really want this? You’re like, yeah. Or you go back to the Oh, I’m afraid of the unknown.

00:28:40:06 – 00:28:42:02
Nathan Crane
You go back to what? Secure and safe? Yeah.

00:28:42:02 – 00:29:01:20
Pete Bissonette
It’s just that you can’t get your underwear in the bundle of this kind of stuff. And we didn’t. When it came to the NLP training, we can’t sleep. We just knew we had to do something and we had to. We didn’t know what it would be, but we had the parallel mailing that we’re and they came in and we mail them out to people and we responded to it.

00:29:02:18 – 00:29:12:06
Pete Bissonette
It’s when you get your underwear in the bundle, then that’s when, like you say, you go back to what you’ve done before or you can’t think you get stuck. And we kept it open.

00:29:12:15 – 00:29:18:17
Nathan Crane
And that’s so awesome. That’s so cool. And then now I mean, power limitless. You’ve had what how many people go through and.

00:29:18:19 – 00:29:23:23
Pete Bissonette
Oh no end got millions of people have done have the power of limitless over the earth. Yeah absolutely.

00:29:24:12 – 00:29:27:15
Nathan Crane
I started from your first 100 on a cassette tape.

00:29:28:00 – 00:29:29:04
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. Yeah, I know.

00:29:30:24 – 00:29:34:04
Nathan Crane
And your app now is called Mind Tracks, right?

00:29:34:11 – 00:29:35:17
Pete Bissonette
Mind tracks.

00:29:35:24 – 00:29:47:13
Nathan Crane
Mind tracks. And we talked about I asked you about it like a few months back. Why? Why mind tracks? Why mind tracks? And I honestly don’t exactly remember. So can you tell me again why it’s called mind tracks?

00:29:47:22 – 00:30:06:19
Pete Bissonette
Okay, I’ll tell you two stories. One is how we took what we tell our clients, and that is mind tracks. It’s like these are audio tracks to work with your mind. And we wanted to do something that was a little bit different but also tracks you could read it as mind tricks, right? You could read it as my tracks.

00:30:06:24 – 00:30:28:03
Pete Bissonette
Mind tracks. You’re going on a journey with these mind tracks. I don’t know what you’re going to plow over, but you know something? So, you know, we had all those different reasons for it, but the real reason that we use mind tracks is that we came up, we started off with over 100 names. We just kept whittling it down to what our favorites were and what we thought would work the best.

00:30:28:15 – 00:30:49:12
Pete Bissonette
And then we just started to do test advertising on Facebook to see what people responded to. And it was mind tracks that people responded to and responded to that significantly more than any of the other names that we put out there for. So that’s why it’s mind track, but it works beautifully with what we’re doing here.

00:30:50:01 – 00:30:55:05
Nathan Crane
And you put like like people could vote. Is that what it was to be like vote your top five or something like that?

00:30:55:05 – 00:31:11:24
Pete Bissonette
Oh, no. Because the only way people can vote is when they vote with their credit card. You know, that’s the only one that really works. So we set it up so that people we we did a series of ads. And the only difference between the ad was the name in the upper left hand corner. So that’s smart. So what would people click on?

00:31:12:00 – 00:31:19:20
Pete Bissonette
And they end up click on the one with my tracks? And I’m thinking to myself, you know, it’s far enough from the ad, people don’t even notice it. But they did notice that.

00:31:20:09 – 00:31:42:11
Nathan Crane
That’s crazy. That’s really smart. That’s a really smart thing. Yeah, because it’s true. Like you could send out surveys and things like that and it’s like you’re going to get surveys back from people who take surveys. But yeah, it does it, you know, it doesn’t mean you’re getting everybody’s feedback in a, in a holistic approach. And also it doesn’t mean that they’re actually going to do anything if you actually do what they say.

00:31:42:11 – 00:31:43:00
Nathan Crane
I mean, we all.

00:31:43:00 – 00:31:44:18
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

00:31:45:15 – 00:32:14:15
Nathan Crane
So going back to intuition, I think intuition is really incredible because as we practice qigong meditation, pranayama, deeper spiritual practices, what I’ve noticed in my own life over the years is, you know, my intuition cultivates, right? It gets more and more. And you spoke about intuition and the power of intuition. It’s like I feel like it is our souls ability to connect to the universe around us.

00:32:14:15 – 00:32:33:24
Nathan Crane
And the more that we tap into that, the more that we can kind of see things coming ahead of time. We can, you know, avoid pitfalls. We can make better decisions in our life, in our business. We can, you know, take a right step instead of a left step or a wrong step or a step that’s going to, you know, put us down in a hole for a little while.

00:32:33:24 – 00:32:55:18
Nathan Crane
If we really listen to that inner voice. I want to share a quick story and then I run down thoughts on intuition, like in how people can cultivate it further because, oh, this is probably five, 12, 15 years ago now, my I was we knew my grandpa, my dad’s side was going to be passing soon, you know, maybe in a week, in a month, a few months.

00:32:55:18 – 00:33:15:12
Nathan Crane
But he was in hospice, you know, he had drank alcohol his whole life and lots of fried chicken, lots of fried food and was, you know, was traumatized from war, came back from World War Two. And so he had a lot going on and can never give up. Cigarets alcohol was was actually a very mean person, but I had a good relationship with him as a kid.

00:33:16:10 – 00:33:39:14
Nathan Crane
My dad didn’t though, and anyway, I was, but I felt a lot of compassion for him. I was in Oceanside, California. He was in Arizona. I hadn’t talked to him in a long time, but I knew, you know, any day now he’s going to be passing. And for whatever reason, this particular night, I decided to, you know, go and do a meditation and connect to him, just connect to his spirit, his energy.

00:33:39:14 – 00:33:59:10
Nathan Crane
He just had this, like, intuition to do it. And I hadn’t really done that before to anybody else. So it was just kind of going with the flow kind of thing. I didn’t really know what I was doing, and as I was sitting there in meditation, I could sense, I could feel his spirit and I and I just felt like I was like, Hey, Grandpa is there, you know, how are you?

00:33:59:10 – 00:34:15:12
Nathan Crane
And actually, his response was like, kind of shocking. It was, I’m I’m doing excellent. I’m great. And I go to great. What do you mean? Like, you know, I was kind of, like, shocked at one that I’m having this conversation. I’m like, am I have this conversation with myself am I, you know, is it actually my grandpa? Yeah.

00:34:16:01 – 00:34:35:12
Nathan Crane
And it was no, I’m free. I’ve no pain. I’m free. You don’t have to worry about anything. And I just I felt in that moment that he had passed and I was speaking to his soul that had just left the body. And so this was like, I think around 11:00, midnight at night. And so I was like, okay.

00:34:36:11 – 00:34:54:00
Nathan Crane
So I went to sleep and woke up the next day. And then my dad called me and said, Hey, guess what, Grandpa passed. And I said, know, it was like, Well, what do you mean? You know? I was like, Yeah, but last night I was talking to the spirit and it was this time, and that was exactly the time that he had passed was literally, that’s cool.

00:34:54:09 – 00:35:12:02
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Minutes after I’d been talking to a spirit. And so that just like opened me up to this whole other world that I had been diving into for a number of years before that of like, we can connect to our loved ones, to our soul, you know, to just spirits on the other side, to people who’ve passed, who’ve left.

00:35:12:02 – 00:35:28:03
Nathan Crane
And yes, as he left his body, there was no more pain and suffering. He was free of that. You know, that’s a lot of people’s fear of death, right? Like, oh, his soul is going to be burning in hell forever. It was like, no, he was free, he was happy, he was pain free and he was not a good person, but he wasn’t burning in hell, you know.

00:35:28:11 – 00:35:38:21
Nathan Crane
So he was transitioning on to the next stage of of reality, whatever that’s going to be for him. And anyway, that was like a really powerful experience.

00:35:39:24 – 00:35:41:09
Pete Bissonette
That’s cool. That’s cool.

00:35:41:17 – 00:36:04:19
Nathan Crane
Yeah. And so like into like intuition. What are your thoughts on, you know, developing intuition? Is it something that people can cultivate further in their lives? Can they open up more intuitive channels? And like even in your own life, do you think you could open up those channels again where you’re connected with with your ghost friends? You know, what are your thoughts about that?

00:36:05:00 – 00:36:24:20
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. So as far as opening up the channels there, so I’ll have connection with friends on the other on a semi-regular basis. And it’s, it’s hard for me to compare what it was like to back then because I really don’t know. You know, it’s hard to make that comparison, but there’s so many different ways to be able to open up the channels.

00:36:24:20 – 00:36:45:23
Pete Bissonette
And the most important one, I think, is that you have to get your conscious mind all the way. You have to just not let that always be controlling your life. And when you can do that, then you can allow those other messages that are within you or coming to you. Bubble What’s that? You can pay attention to them.

00:36:46:04 – 00:37:12:15
Pete Bissonette
Sometimes they come up as a feeling. Sometimes you hear something, sometimes it’s a smell. When a friend of mine passed, what, in 1980, in January 1987, the the I mean, the food service of the cafeteria, the cafeteria of the hospital. And all of a sudden I smelled that cologne that Jeff always wore that drove everybody to distraction by.

00:37:13:04 – 00:37:35:23
Pete Bissonette
But it’s like it was right there and looked around. There’s nobody else around. So those are different types of ways that you can cultivate or to recognize it. Just notice what’s going on. And something is really easy for a lot of people is that when a friend does pass, look for Postcards from heaven because you’re going to see them.

00:37:36:04 – 00:37:59:09
Pete Bissonette
They’re everywhere because they have that ability to kind of if you’re connected with them, to kind of allow the things to happen, then you can you can pick up on them all. Here is a great story. I’ll tell you this one. So my friend Dana died and he worked with us at Learning Strategies for 20 some years. You know, he’s in his forties and we had it.

00:37:59:10 – 00:38:20:02
Pete Bissonette
We have, of course, a numerology and so going forward, who is our mentor for neurology kind of put together a system for playing Powerball or the lottery using numerology. And so Dana and I just for the fun of it, we would do it and go and help set something up so that we could use our collective birth dates and all that kind of stuff for the right numbers.

00:38:20:18 – 00:38:48:08
Pete Bissonette
And so and certain days throughout the year, we would have to buy a ticket or after he passed one of those days showed up on my calendar and I said, when eBay shut might as well. So I went to the gas station and got my Powerball ticket and I looked at it and I thought it was kind of interesting that the first and the last the first number than the Powerball number where the two put numbers that needed to happen are winning ticket, but nothing else.

00:38:48:19 – 00:39:12:23
Pete Bissonette
But I got excited at that night. I looked at it and I watched it to the drawing and it did not win. That’s fine. The next drawing came up a couple weeks later or so and I bought another ticket and this time the numbers were exactly double what the numbers were. And the ticket for the first date, I said, fantastic.

00:39:12:23 – 00:39:35:24
Pete Bissonette
And so I got to watch the news and not do anything. And then a few weeks later, when the next day came up for getting a ticket, I got the ticket and there was no rhyme or reason to anything. I could have nothing made sense for. And it bugged me for those that was on. Went in and bugged me on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

00:39:35:24 – 00:39:59:05
Pete Bissonette
I woke up Saturday morning. Wait a minute. Doubling is nothing. There’s nothing in the system for numerology and the Powerball that had to do with doubling so that there had to be something in the first Powerball ticket. And so I looked at it and look at it, what the heck? And then I did the old basic one. You got a two?

00:39:59:05 – 00:40:06:06
Pete Bissonette
It was B three equals four equals D, and it’s spelled out. Hi, Dana. Oh, I know.

00:40:06:20 – 00:40:07:20
Nathan Crane
I just got chills.

00:40:07:21 – 00:40:35:00
Pete Bissonette
Oh, God. It was just so cool. And over the course of the next year that I kept I not not know over the course of the next year, there are so many other types of messages from Dana. But she and I had always said that, hey, whoever goes first, figure out how to send back. So we already had that set up and so we had a lot of those things play out over time.

00:40:35:10 – 00:40:57:17
Pete Bissonette
Another one, you know, I speak for that you done course with Cheney, so we’re creating this brand new course with Cheney, and it was hard to find the perfect place. We want to do a location outside time, driving all around Minnesota and all the parks and trying to figure out where this beautiful tree. And one morning I’m out, one last run down this one creek in Minneapolis.

00:40:57:17 – 00:41:18:09
Pete Bissonette
Minnehaha Creek. And I wanted to see if maybe there’s something there that I missed. But as I’m getting to turned left, I just suddenly turned. Right now it’s not about that’s okay if I follow my intuition. I just had this urgent turn right then going and sure enough, maybe a quarter. A block away. A block away. This is magnificent tree.

00:41:18:09 – 00:41:36:01
Pete Bissonette
And I said, Oh, is that because we wanted a huge tree to practice that? Because the energy, the trees are so beautiful for practicing qigong and I sent the pictures to Chinese, said, Yeah, that’s it. So we filmed the program there and all that kind of stuff. And then at the end we all were standing around the tree.

00:41:36:01 – 00:42:03:00
Pete Bissonette
There were like maybe a dozen of staff around the tree and we’re having our pictures taken and I look down and there’s a nickel on the ground and they picked it up. And the date on the nickel was 1973, which was Dana’s birthday. And so it’s was kind of like, I betcha he was helping to nudge me to the right to find that perfect tree, right?

00:42:03:00 – 00:42:03:07
Nathan Crane
Yeah.

00:42:03:12 – 00:42:07:01
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. And then he sent the message that, Oh, that’s so cool.

00:42:07:01 – 00:42:20:00
Nathan Crane
Now that’s the if I remember seeing that video with you near the tree, if you’re looking at it facing of the trees on my right side, the trees on his left side, and there’s a there a pond behind him.

00:42:20:04 – 00:42:23:10
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, there’s a lake. It’s Lake Nokomis in the Twin Cities. Yeah.

00:42:23:10 – 00:42:26:02
Nathan Crane
I remember seeing that. Yeah. It is a tree.

00:42:26:02 – 00:42:32:09
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, it really is a gorgeous day. It was just perfect for the whole the whole program that we wanted to film.

00:42:32:19 – 00:42:47:24
Nathan Crane
That’s incredible. I mean, what a beautiful story. You and your, you know, connecting with your friend after after his past multiple times connected with things connected with you. So what do you think? What do you think happens after we die?

00:42:47:24 – 00:43:20:03
Pete Bissonette
I think that when we go on, we go into this space where, you know, everybody is there, our friends, our unseen helpers that have been supporting us all our lives, they’re there. They’re still partway lucid before you know what’s on earth here. They still have part of that personality of their. And then then at some point it it expands out and you start to realize, you know, what the the the truth of existence really is.

00:43:20:03 – 00:43:49:19
Pete Bissonette
So if you were did some dastardly things and you’re going there and, you know, there’s reckoning. But at first it’s like you’re just being supported by all this love and all these everybody there to help you through that process. Then you go through a period where you have to get, you know, whatever it is that you need to clear up, like the karma that you have things that need to be cleared up before your next circle of life.

00:43:50:01 – 00:44:09:12
Pete Bissonette
You go through a period where you have to be working on that, whether it’s I don’t know. You know, people say anywhere from I mean, it could be a couple of hundred days before you come back and then you you you can come back. But during that time, you can still connect with everybody down below, down on earth, not down below, but on earth.

00:44:09:20 – 00:44:36:10
Pete Bissonette
And all you have to do is think of them. And someone once told me, you say their name three times. So I’ve always done that. So you know Dana, Dana, Dana, her mom, my mom. And then I can feel now. When my mom passed in 1999, I didn’t feel Kirk come back for the next ten years. Dad passed in 2010 and at the funeral the I felt mom over my right shoulder.

00:44:36:13 – 00:45:08:20
Pete Bissonette
I could just feel her and I go, Holy smokes. And then then from that moment on, it’s been really easy to connect with mom. And so there’s you can always connect with an eye on the Internet. There’s a whole lot of ways that you can thrive. It’s all about how do you become open for how do you just allow there’s that willingness and that allowing ness to allow people connect with you are the same thing with your intuition.

00:45:09:02 – 00:45:31:15
Pete Bissonette
How do you pay attention to the signals that are there? And then what do you do once you have those signals, it’s like, you know. So yesterday I had that really tough signal right here. I didn’t know what that was at the time. And, you know, maybe there was a price signal that triggered this, I don’t know. But it’s like, how do you pay attention to that kind of stuff?

00:45:32:01 – 00:45:57:19
Pete Bissonette
And we have you know, we have a course on intuition called a deep listening. So there’s lots of different ways to to do that. So pay attention to your intuition. Even on my tracks, we have the intuition amplifier. You can listen to that power limiter. I listen to it once a day for about a week, and then periodically thereafter, and you’ll find your intuition improving.

00:45:58:02 – 00:46:20:16
Pete Bissonette
And Brian Osborne, you created a course with this called four Elements Manifestation. And one of the things that he says is every time you see something in your life that reinforces something that you’re working on so, you know, for either manifestation or for intuition or anything like that, you see more like that, please, and that more like that place.

00:46:20:22 – 00:46:27:06
Pete Bissonette
And then your that’s kind of welcoming more messages I love. Yeah. More like that.

00:46:27:06 – 00:46:38:22
Nathan Crane
Plays what a good price. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you’re telling your conscious and your subconscious in that you’re soul, everything you’re saying. Yeah. More like that please. More. Oh I love that. Yeah. Love that. Yeah.

00:46:40:11 – 00:46:59:11
Pete Bissonette
And practicing things like spring forest qigong will do it or you know, our photo reading program where we teach people how to go through a book at 25,000 words per second. You can’t. You’re getting a conscious all the way because you can’t consciously pay attention to everything that’s in that book that helps open up the channels of intuition.

00:46:59:24 – 00:47:00:14
Pete Bissonette
So anything.

00:47:00:14 – 00:47:02:05
Nathan Crane
Micro x the first is that of.

00:47:02:05 – 00:47:08:12
Pete Bissonette
Course, no photo main is not in the idea that that’s through the regular eye, regular website learning strategies. Doctor Photo.

00:47:08:14 – 00:47:09:24
Nathan Crane
Photo reading, photo.

00:47:09:24 – 00:47:31:14
Pete Bissonette
Reading. Yeah. So that was actually the thing that got Paul and me to get together for learning strategies was he called me up. He says, What if you could be taught to go through a book that’s between the pages? I said, Take it, that’s for real. I’m in. And because I’ve always known it would be possible, all my life I’ve thought about it, but I had no idea how to do it.

00:47:31:14 – 00:47:45:10
Pete Bissonette
I took I did everything I could to break through that barrier. We got together. We played with that knowledge that this is a life changer for me. And a couple of weeks later, polymer office furniture up the elevator.

00:47:45:10 – 00:48:05:07
Nathan Crane
It reminds me of a something happened to me recently. I was at my acupuncturist and we were talking about all kinds of things. And then he was telling me how, you know, he found Jesus and Jesus saved his life. And, you know, now he’s like a devout Christian. And he was telling me how how I’m going to have a really deep, strong relationship with Jesus and I’m going to know Jesus.

00:48:05:07 – 00:48:42:12
Nathan Crane
And I thought I thought, yeah, that sounds good. I could have a deeper relationship with Jesus. You know, I love Jesus and I could definitely have a deeper relationship. And so what was interesting was like, you know what? I’m going to really start diving into the Bible, reading it, meditating on it, like I’ve, I’ve really, you know, I’ve, I’ve looked through it over the years and it found many different verses that like, I’ve have transformed how I think of Jesus and Christianity into, I think, a, a holistic viewpoint of spirituality and, you know, Jesus as a master teacher.

00:48:42:12 – 00:49:07:11
Nathan Crane
Right. And what was interesting about this whole series of coincidences, that coincidences that happened was I thought, okay, I’m going to start reading the Bible. And then somehow Paramahansa Yogananda popped up back in my life. I read his book, you know, Autobiography of a Yogi, like 15 years ago, and something popped up around the same time. And then I remembered, Oh, Yogananda has a book about Jesus.

00:49:07:11 – 00:49:21:05
Nathan Crane
And, you know, the yogic has yoga principles based on what Jesus teachings. And I thought it was funny as I immediately bought that book and then I realized, like, I already had like I think two of those books in my books years ago.

00:49:21:10 – 00:49:23:10
Pete Bissonette
So now I have like three. We’ve all done that.

00:49:24:16 – 00:49:30:05
Nathan Crane
I literally found like the other one the other day I was like, okay, but then so I’m reading through that and then.

00:49:30:21 – 00:49:31:17
Pete Bissonette
And then I go.

00:49:32:12 – 00:49:48:09
Nathan Crane
And then I’m listening to, I’m like, I’m going to listen to Autobiography of a Yogi on Audible this time. I read it before and I’m going to listen to it. And so I’m listening to it. And then I just like as I’m listening to that and diving deep into the Bible Jesus, his teachings, you know, yogananda’s viewpoint on Jesus.

00:49:48:17 – 00:50:13:11
Nathan Crane
And all of a sudden I just get this like deep, you know, whole magnetism to like, yeah, boom, Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagavad Gita. Like I read the Bible get it’s like, you know, 20 years. But now I’m like, go deep into all the yogic teachings as deep as I possibly can. And now I’m like just like so immersed in it, 24 seven and it was what’s funny about it and I’m loving it.

00:50:13:11 – 00:50:22:01
Nathan Crane
And what’s funny about it is like that was triggered by my Christian acupuncturist from China, who was previously an atheist.

00:50:22:17 – 00:50:23:08
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, yeah.

00:50:23:08 – 00:50:41:01
Nathan Crane
He said, I’m going to have a deeper relationship with Jesus. You know, it’s just so funny. But it was like, boom. But listen, every one of those was like an intuitive, intuitive. Buy this book, do this God, do this meditation. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And it’s like now I can see my whole life transforming to the next level of what I am.

00:50:41:01 – 00:50:42:15
Nathan Crane
You know what I’m here to do. So.

00:50:44:10 – 00:51:09:16
Pete Bissonette
So you should play with poetry because this is what can happen. So, first of all, again, it’s a way to input information as fast as you can turn the pages, it goes right into your other conscious mind consciously. You don’t know a whole lot what’s in that book. So if you if you Google me a photo reading, you’ll see a television example of me going through a book at 100 some thousand words a minute, immediately answering questions.

00:51:09:16 – 00:51:34:09
Pete Bissonette
That’s not what the average person will do, not as good as I do. But what you do is you then go through it. It takes you 5 minutes to go through a book and then you can spend anywhere from a half an hour to a couple of hours to activate that information in that book. And it’s a way of using the book itself to help trigger back from your other than conscious volunteer conscious like information that you may need to know.

00:51:34:18 – 00:52:13:17
Pete Bissonette
So there’s a lot of real practical ways of doing it, playing with it, but there’s some other ways that are really cool, especially in the spirituality side. And that is before you go to bed for a read a part of the Bible. You can do the whole thing, but you take a long time. So you just read the Bible and then you may have an intention in mind, or maybe you want to have insight into something and then it then you go to bed and then pay attention to your dreams because it’s highly possible that you, whatever it was that your photo reading will be showing up in your life as it relates to what

00:52:13:17 – 00:52:39:06
Pete Bissonette
your intention is. So we have a lot of ministers who that’s how they write their the sermons is they will have an intention of I want to do a sermon on this. They often read it, they’ll go to bed and then they wait. They dream about it, or they wake up thinking about it and they know exactly what their sermon is going to be and how it relates to what they just did in the Bible.

00:52:39:16 – 00:53:13:05
Pete Bissonette
So that’s one way to do it, is that you can forward read it and then pay attention to what your thoughts are or your dreams or first in the morning or even what shows up the next few days, because that stuff will then be showing up with that. And you can take all the different you can take different books and you can photo read three different books from three different perspectives, let’s say this spiritual box, and then you fold it up to 4 to 4 to be that and just see what happens over the next couple of days, see what that’s coming to your head, see where you daydream.

00:53:13:10 – 00:53:25:18
Pete Bissonette
And if you’re if you’re doing journaling, you will come out from it because you’re other than a conscious mind is so powerful when it’s able to do it, it’s kind of like a gigantic chat tube that’s for you. And whatever your intention is.

00:53:26:04 – 00:54:00:22
Nathan Crane
That’s so cool. That’s so cool. I’m definitely going to try it. So, I mean, and that’s that’s the incredible thing about our mind and our brain specifically is you could you could look up at the ceiling and look down and your brain is all in your mind and your brain is already captured. Every single detail that’s on that ceiling, I could not recall it consciously, but, you know, my subconscious could write like my my mind could recall it if, you know, if we had these skills and tools, people who’ve developed those kinds of abilities, usually they’re autistic, or we call them autistic, but they have these incredible abilities that are like that part of their

00:54:00:22 – 00:54:24:24
Nathan Crane
mind, that part of their brain is so activate it where maybe other parts, social parts or things like that or not, right? So we have those capture those capabilities, which is really cool. But I was going to ask you about oh, you said, you know, the average person doing a photo reading, getting started, you know, wouldn’t be able to do it as good as like you were explaining where like you could read it and answer questions on it right away.

00:54:24:24 – 00:54:27:15
Nathan Crane
How could someone get that good at doing it?

00:54:28:10 – 00:54:46:06
Pete Bissonette
Well, the first thing is what everybody can do is they can fold, read the book and put the information in for as fast as it takes them to turn the pages. Then the time to activate the book so that you have at least as much knowledge as if you had read. The book is usually about a third of the time.

00:54:46:07 – 00:55:14:04
Pete Bissonette
So if it would take you 10 hours to read a book regular to get what you consider to be full comprehension using the photo reading whole mind system for 3 hours. And then the more that you do it, the time that you spend with that book just keeps reducing and reducing and reducing so that it’s very easy then to get a book for read it and then activate it in about 20 minutes and then you can get to the up.

00:55:14:16 – 00:55:25:09
Pete Bissonette
Well, when I do those demonstrations on TV and haven’t done one long time is that it takes a lot for me to prepare for it. I’m photo reading, I look.

00:55:25:14 – 00:55:27:00
Nathan Crane
Let’s do it on my podcast. Yeah.

00:55:27:00 – 00:55:51:18
Pete Bissonette
Okay. I’ve probably like ten books a day for a couple of weeks and I’m listening to the memories, to doing all this kind of stuff to get myself to the place my brain is doing it. So if I did it now, I’d probably be amazing. But if I’m going to do one day, give me a stack of books and then I have to photo read one of them and to do it, then it’s, it’s, it’s nice to be prepared for it.

00:55:51:21 – 00:56:16:23
Pete Bissonette
But then how that information comes to me is usually it is sometimes it’s a feeling, but usually there’s a picture that comes to me and I just describe the picture. And it may have I have sometimes I have no idea what that picture has to do with anything, but the more I talk about it, then the answer unfolds.

00:56:16:24 – 00:56:40:02
Pete Bissonette
Then I know what it is that we’re doing that you know what the answer is for that. Now, other people, I have a different feeling, a different experience. Some will get feelings about something and then or they’ll just get colors and things just keep unfolding and then they start to get it. Now I’m really good about going into book and then getting the details on it.

00:56:40:02 – 00:57:00:00
Pete Bissonette
Paul Healy on the other hand, he is so good at both reading a book and then just kind of talking about everything about the book, the arc of the book, and, you know, what’s in it and how it all relates to me. I don’t get it. The only way that I get it would be if I would if you’d ask me a billion questions.

00:57:00:00 – 00:57:21:24
Pete Bissonette
And the next thing you know, after answering the questions, I know what the book is about, but I know all the answers. And there’s one time I was doing a TV thing and I was they gave me it was a John Grisham book, and I remember which one it was and they had me for to read it. And it was just photo read, not the whole thing, but, you know, X number of chapters.

00:57:22:12 – 00:57:45:22
Pete Bissonette
And then they asked me a series of questions and I got the first couple of questions right. And then they asked me, what is the significance of red wine in the boardroom? Red wine bottle, red wine, you know, pictures of coming up with red wine in the boardroom. And I, I said, I’m sorry. I don’t know the answer to it.

00:57:46:23 – 00:58:11:07
Pete Bissonette
And during the break, the director asked, who did this, did the questions, and the galley came up and said, what is what is this red wine? And she says, it’s not red wine is red wire. And then just like that is Oh, God, yeah. There was a bomb in the boardroom and it was the red wire that they had to disconnect from the bomb in order to, you know, whatever.

00:58:11:17 – 00:58:22:12
Pete Bissonette
So it was like the way she wrote it down, handwritten and written it. And the guy who was reading it, red wine instead of wire. But as soon as it was a wire, then it all just triggered it.

00:58:23:04 – 00:58:24:06
Nathan Crane
Boom. You got all that you got?

00:58:24:07 – 00:58:27:01
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, I got it all just. Just spontaneously, just like that.

00:58:28:08 – 00:58:56:10
Nathan Crane
So is it useful then? Like you said, you may not like the way that you receive it is not necessarily like, you know, understanding the story and the meanings and things like that necessarily. You get images, you have to ask questions and think about it like, yeah, how is that useful for personal development or cultivating leadership or like but you know, books like self-growth books, spiritual books things like that.

00:58:56:20 – 00:59:15:08
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. Well, the biggest thing is you realize you don’t need to consciously know everything that’s in the book. So if you do read the book, you put it in and you’re, you always want to have what your intention is. And I and it could be my intention is to get everything in the book that would need that I would need in order to support my goal, whatever it is.

00:59:15:21 – 00:59:41:07
Pete Bissonette
And then and trust that as you get into a situation where you need the information, you’re going to have access to it, trust it. You can make decisions based on the information that you had to read. So that’s one way to do that. That takes a lot of trust. A lot of people say no, I can rely on that and I can, you know, but eventually you do it enough times and you start having those experiences.

00:59:41:17 – 00:59:44:00
Pete Bissonette
You do are you are able to rely on.

00:59:44:06 – 01:00:14:15
Nathan Crane
Does it does that like let’s say you’re just thinking of example, let’s say you’re reading a leadership book, for example, or team management, you’re entrepreneur or whatever and you read, you know, Maxwell’s laws or, you know, some leadership book or you did the photo reading. Boom. Yeah. Now you have that. You’re, you’re relying on it. Let’s say you get into a situation leadership situation and then, you know, it’s like you need to like do you have to call are you calling upon that in a situation or does it like just appear?

01:00:15:00 – 01:00:18:16
Nathan Crane
And then and you kind of remember like it came from that book like how.

01:00:18:16 – 01:00:38:14
Pete Bissonette
Did that yeah, it’s almost as if it’s something that you learned six months before. So you’ve already learned it on a deep inner level. So it becomes part of who you are. Otherwise, if, if you had learned something six months ago and you and consciously, if you learned it, then you need to rely on it. You don’t necessarily think, Oh, I got it from this book or I have to recall open book.

01:00:38:19 – 01:00:40:23
Pete Bissonette
Now it becomes part of who you are.

01:00:41:16 – 01:00:43:10
Nathan Crane
If you I mean, if you use it right.

01:00:43:10 – 01:00:44:17
Pete Bissonette
Like if you if you use it. Yeah.

01:00:45:00 – 01:01:06:12
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Because reading I don’t remember what the, the average numbers are, but like we retain like 18% or something of usually what we read. If you write it down, you know that like doubles roughly if there’s a Yeah, visual like video, audio and writing, right? It’s maybe 40%. If you’re experiential to conference and you’re getting your emotions up and all of that, you get your body involved.

01:01:06:12 – 01:01:16:22
Nathan Crane
It’s like 50, 60, 70%. I don’t remember the exact percentages, but I know reading just by itself, for most people, we don’t we actually don’t retain very much of what we read, you know.

01:01:16:22 – 01:01:24:13
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. And that’s because you’re relying on your conscious mind. And yeah, we teach you how not to rely on your conscious mind. And then there’s a lot of ways to.

01:01:24:13 – 01:01:27:13
Nathan Crane
Auto reading like allow you to retain more than do you think?

01:01:28:08 – 01:01:49:03
Pete Bissonette
Yes, it kind of depends on what your goal is when you’re approaching particular book. So intention, intention, retention and comprehension typically will increase when you’re using the reading system. But what you may up finding is that if you end up pushing the envelope, it might cause it to decrease. But it depends on what you want to get out of it.

01:01:49:12 – 01:02:10:20
Pete Bissonette
And so sometimes what we one of the things that we teach you in a book is that not everything that’s in the book is really relevant to you, your intention or your question. So how do you gain access to that information? That’s what photo editing is all about. It’s it takes it from being a passive process, which is how most people approach reading.

01:02:11:01 – 01:02:25:18
Pete Bissonette
I’m just going to read it and see what sticks type of thing too. An active process where you know what it is that you want to get from that book and how it’s going to benefit you. Then it becomes so much easier to pull that from the book and to use it in your everyday life.

01:02:26:16 – 01:02:45:18
Nathan Crane
So it’d be like, All right, I’ve got this book on spirituality or meditation or whatever and okay, short mind, show me or retain. You know what I need to know in terms of, you know, my goals to be enlightened in this life, right? What do I show me? What I need to know or retain, what I need to know in relationship to that specific thing?

01:02:46:15 – 01:02:47:02
Pete Bissonette
Yes.

01:02:47:02 – 01:02:53:00
Nathan Crane
That’s what if you find my soulmate, if you’re like you know, looking for a relationship or if you’re, you know, whatever it could be.

01:02:53:16 – 01:03:11:05
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. Yeah. And so it’s not about the very specific things. It’s about I mean, you can ask for very specific things. And for sometimes there are times when I needed something, I just needed a fact. And this is more before the was that Google the Hadith saying that.

01:03:11:14 – 01:03:13:13
Nathan Crane
You can’t rely on totally either.

01:03:13:13 – 01:03:36:01
Pete Bissonette
But no, you know you’re right but at least you know, it’s a way to, you know, to start the process. So if you need the specific information, there’s kind of like one way to go after specific information. Or if you want the information to become part of who you are. So that is easier for you to make the decisions to operate on a day to day basis.

01:03:36:01 – 01:04:09:15
Pete Bissonette
That’s consistent with what your goal is then? Yes. So if you want to have a relationship, you don’t have a relationship, go forward, whole bunch of books and relationships and then allow it to unfold with you. Now you’re going to get conflicting advice. It doesn’t matter because you get conflicting advice anywhere in life right now. So it’s about how do you then take that information and just have that unfold in your life so that when you’re going out on a date for somebody, a part of you knows the types of things that you shouldn’t be doing or that you can be doing with that.

01:04:10:20 – 01:04:19:00
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that would have been helpful for me to learn photo reading before I had kids and then read a bunch of kids, you know, raising, raising kids. So yeah.

01:04:19:23 – 01:04:24:10
Pete Bissonette
There’s, there’s a lot of people that do that and it’s a life saver. But yeah.

01:04:24:15 – 01:04:45:16
Nathan Crane
It just we say like, Oh yeah, there’s no manual on, on raising kids. Well, there’s a lot of books about it. But yeah, you are going to get conflicting advice. Some are going to tell you, yeah, discipline or others until you don’t discipline. Right. And so it’s like I think one is you got to really trust the source then to obviously you’re going to be using discernment and yeah, might try something and it doesn’t work.

01:04:45:16 – 01:04:50:02
Nathan Crane
And so it’s like, okay, that’s how we learn, right? Like, yeah, let me try something else.

01:04:50:18 – 01:04:51:00
Pete Bissonette
Yeah.

01:04:51:07 – 01:05:12:15
Nathan Crane
Like I like my son, my eight year old son. I mean, two, two years ago it was six. Like, we couldn’t, we couldn’t use any kind of like he was using reverse psychology on us, you know, or like or like punishment on us. He’s like, fine. You know, we’d be like, Oh yeah, if you don’t do this and, you know, you can’t watch the iPad.

01:05:12:15 – 01:05:30:10
Nathan Crane
And then he’d be like, You know, that only worked for a little while. Then he’s like, I don’t want to watch the iPad, you know? Yeah, all the way. And, like, start using it back on us. I’m like, All right, that doesn’t work. I got to switch this up. This is not working. Of he’s a very strong willed, strong minded young individual.

01:05:30:10 – 01:05:43:14
Nathan Crane
So I’m really finding that balance between being a guide and being a father and trying to guide him in the best direction without totally controlling his life. You know, it’s tough. It is tough, for sure.

01:05:44:00 – 01:06:12:16
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. You know, there’s a couple things with photo reading that you might appreciate. I remember one of our first stories that came in was from an author who wrote Murder Mysteries. And what he ended up doing would be the photo read, two or three books that someone else wrote before sitting down to write, you know, 15 minutes. And then he would just sit down to write.

01:06:12:16 – 01:06:33:08
Pete Bissonette
And he found that he was able to get in the flow so much quicker and write so much faster. And he was turning chapters into his agent after one or two drafts, instead of the usual five or six drafts, because what the and his intention was to be able to become a better writer, to be able to tell the story that he had.

01:06:34:09 – 01:06:51:04
Pete Bissonette
And there was another guy whose name was Marty, and he was a graphic designer. And what he would do is before he would sit down to do to work on a project or if he ever got stuck on a project is he would read a couple of design books and then he would sit down to do his work.

01:06:51:21 – 01:07:11:10
Pete Bissonette
And sure enough, it was a lot easier for him to create whatever it was that he was designing. So you can use photo reading as a way to help, to stimulate your mind, to get your mind into that flow state and to draw on everything that’s possible so that you can create whatever it is that you want to create.

01:07:11:18 – 01:07:15:08
Nathan Crane
MM Interesting. Yeah, I’m working on a new book right now, so give me some.

01:07:15:09 – 01:07:43:13
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. So, yeah, just take a book and it doesn’t have to be anything, you know, in the same subject. But just take a book of somebody who you think who is an absolutely superb writer and photo read that book and maybe read it multiple times. And your intention is that you want to be able to write in the style and flair of this particular author or, you know, make clear what your your intention is, and you’ll find that your writing improves.

01:07:43:23 – 01:08:07:20
Nathan Crane
You could be like, Yeah, I want to I want to, yeah, emulate the parts of, of this writing that I really connect with. I really resonate with. I really like write and yeah. Okay, interesting. That’s very cool. And so photo reading, is it like I did a little bit of experiment with a little bit of speed reading like a long time ago, but I never kept up with it.

01:08:07:20 – 01:08:21:13
Nathan Crane
And I think that was like you would actually, if I remember correctly, you would read chunks across the page, almost right to left down the page, or you just go straight down the page with your finger and then this is it, is it same is speed reading? Is it different?

01:08:21:15 – 01:08:38:02
Pete Bissonette
No, not at all. So with photo reading, you’re flipping through the bucket, one flip per second, thump, thump, thump, thump. What you doing with your eyes? Is your diverge in your eyes so that you see like a little blip page on the middle of the page. So you kind of you’re not been focusing on the words and you maybe you’re chanting something.

01:08:38:16 – 01:09:01:00
Pete Bissonette
One, two, three, four. Relax, relax, turn the page as you’re going through the book. Me I don’t do this now, but what I used to do was one to book my shoe. Three It didn’t matter. You just want to get that rhythm down and you kind of want to get your conscious mind all the way so the information can go.

01:09:01:00 – 01:09:21:15
Pete Bissonette
And so it’s not at all like speed reading. Then when it comes to activating the materials that, you know, consciously, one way that you can do that is just by going through, well, the coolest thing as you go through the chapter, the table of contents, and you scan through the table of contents and you might say, okay, chapter four, that one’s most intriguing.

01:09:21:23 – 01:09:37:19
Pete Bissonette
Go to chapter four and just move your eyes down the center of the page. You’ll start to pick everything up that’s in it, and you’re activating that material so it becomes alive. You And when you do it that way, by first of all, intuitively picking the, you know, the chapter that you want to go to, it don’t left brain.

01:09:37:19 – 01:09:45:24
Pete Bissonette
It just, you know, go whichever one you draw. Until then, you’re going to find that you’re getting the information that is probably most relevant pertinent to you at the time.

01:09:46:14 – 01:10:06:21
Nathan Crane
Okay. I got to tell you that you just remind me of another story. I yeah. So I was in San Diego and I was, I was like learning dream interpretation and I was learning from a few different people. Friend of mine, David Dibble, who had discovered this incredible way of dream interpretation from some like master guy, I can’t remember from where.

01:10:07:03 – 01:10:25:23
Nathan Crane
And then I was learning, you know, from a couple other friends at the same time and a spiritual mentor. And and I was I was so all right. So one of the things is dream interpretation. And I think you kind of mentioned this earlier. It’s like as you’re laying there before bed, you can say, you know, show me what I need to know about X, Y, Z in my dreams tonight.

01:10:26:11 – 01:10:42:09
Nathan Crane
Yeah, man. And then you go to sleep and you trust. And when you wake up, whatever dream, whatever you remember, you know, you just don’t try to think about it. Just write it down. Yeah. So I had this was I was doing this as I was learning dream interpretation. I was so I was doing this and I, I had this dream of this.

01:10:42:21 – 01:10:59:01
Nathan Crane
I was in a car, but I was actually in the dream. I was in Montana and I was in an old car and all this stuff. And but this this young woman came up to me and I’d never seen her before in my life. And she came up to me and she gave me something. And then I went in the car and then I drove away and it was like something I needed.

01:10:59:14 – 01:11:24:03
Nathan Crane
And then I woke up and I was like, so I wrote it down. I thought about it. I was like, Who is this person ever since person before my life, and what did she give me? Was all this mean, blah, blah, blah? And so I went walking down Ocean Beach, down the main street there, and as I’m I’m walking throughout the day, kind of headed towards the beach and just thinking on this, of reflecting on it, somebody walks outside from like a restaurant or a bar, like the corner of my eye right next to me.

01:11:24:12 – 01:11:41:20
Nathan Crane
And I’m still just kind of in my own world walking. I notice after a couple of blocks like this person still right at the same pace as me. And usually like walking like I go about ahead of someone or behind someone, they usually don’t stay right next to me the whole time. And as I’m walking, I’m like, This is kind of weird.

01:11:42:03 – 01:11:50:11
Nathan Crane
And so I’m going and we make it. We, we end up going right to the beach together. And I thought, who is this person I looked over? It was the lady that was in my dream.

01:11:50:23 – 01:11:52:12
Pete Bissonette
The black lady.

01:11:52:20 – 01:12:12:01
Nathan Crane
Or exact lady, right? So, so and we go and, and I still didn’t say anything to her because I’m like tripped out. And so we end up going and sitting down at the exact same spot. Like right where I was going to sit. She sat like two feet away from me and said anything to each other. And I just I’m sitting there.

01:12:12:01 – 01:12:15:01
Nathan Crane
I’m like, how do I she’s going to think I’m hitting on her right?

01:12:15:01 – 01:12:15:07
Pete Bissonette
Yeah.

01:12:15:20 – 01:12:31:15
Nathan Crane
You were in my dreams last night, babe, you know? And so I thought, you know what? I have to tell her? She was in my dream, like, I just. And so I told her, I said, you know, I got to do something really crazy. I had a dream last night and you were in it and she didn’t even bed and I shouldn’t even say anything.

01:12:32:14 – 01:12:37:12
Nathan Crane
She goes, I have something for you. And she pulls out a book and she hands me a book.

01:12:37:24 – 01:12:39:03
Pete Bissonette
And I’m like, What is going.

01:12:39:03 – 01:12:40:22
Nathan Crane
On right now? I was like, Am I still dreaming?

01:12:40:23 – 01:12:41:23
Pete Bissonette
You know? Yeah, yeah.

01:12:42:06 – 01:13:02:13
Nathan Crane
And then she walks away. We didn’t even talk and I and I took a minute and then I looked at the book and I was like, it was one of Freud’s books on Dream Interpretation, Understanding Our Dreams. I can’t remember. That book is called But it’s Freud Dream. Yeah, Deep Meaning of Our Dreams or something like that. And I just thought, okay, this is crazy.

01:13:02:13 – 01:13:22:20
Nathan Crane
This is and so I went back to the house where I was staying that night and same thing. I just had that intuition like you’re just talking about. I just, I go, okay, show me what I need to know from this book. So I started reading it and I was like, This isn’t really my thing. I’m not sure, you know, Freud’s thing I don’t really resonate with and everybody has a sexual thing with their mother and all of that, right?

01:13:22:20 – 01:13:47:07
Nathan Crane
Like, I’m like, I just so I just. I just guide me to what I need to know. And I just stopped the chapter. I read one or two pages, and I closed it, and I was like, That’s exactly what I needed to hear. Yeah. And it was just such a powerful confirmation experience of like, how, you know, when we’re paying attention to our dreams, to the spirit world, to the inner world, like how these kind of miraculous things can happen.

01:13:47:16 – 01:13:55:17
Nathan Crane
And it was, you know, boom, yep, boom. Closed it. And I, I think I still have the book actually, but I’ve never read any more than those.

01:13:55:18 – 01:14:20:06
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, see, that’s what you can do when you learn to read then. Then you just what you give yourself suggestion before you begin, say I want to find in here anything that could be a benefit to me beyond what that was and just for everybody. And then when you get that feeling, you’ll get feeling a shift of some sort stop and read it.

01:14:20:06 – 01:14:40:00
Pete Bissonette
Or maybe you have to flip back a couple of pages to where you start to have that feeling or you started to have those sides and see what it is. So one example, I was doing a whole bunch of romance novels because I wanted to feel emotions when I’m 40 reading. And it was a Judith Krantz, but now I’m 40 reading it.

01:14:40:19 – 01:15:03:24
Pete Bissonette
And all of a sudden I started to remember and see pictures of a skin vacation I had in Europe. I was in college, so I stopped and I page back to where I started to have the dreams or the images. And sure enough, the Russians are in. His family were on a skiing trip in Switzerland. And so it was the exact thing.

01:15:03:24 – 01:15:29:02
Pete Bissonette
I mean, it was translated to the pictures in my head, which was about my life, but it connected with that. And another one it wove. I remember the afterwards, but it was a thriller and a photo reading, a Wilson where I just I knew something horrible had happened and I stopped and looked. Sure enough, that was the principal murder in the book was right there.

01:15:29:03 – 01:15:41:24
Pete Bissonette
I had that feeling. So when you go to that book that that woman gave, you just portrayed it. And when you get a shift or when you start to see something, stop to see what it could be and what that message is for you. Mm.

01:15:42:01 – 01:15:51:24
Nathan Crane
Interesting. So you’re feeling so you’re just your photo reading. Photo reading. And then as soon as get a feeling stop. Yeah, you might go back a couple of pages or something. You got that feeling okay.

01:15:52:08 – 01:15:52:16
Pete Bissonette
Yeah.

01:15:53:04 – 01:15:53:23
Nathan Crane
That’s really. It’s all.

01:15:53:23 – 01:15:55:13
Pete Bissonette
About playing with it to see what happens.

01:15:55:17 – 01:16:00:19
Nathan Crane
Now. Is this. Is this a book you guys wrote how to do this or is this a course through learning strategies? What is?

01:16:00:19 – 01:16:22:02
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, there’s a book called The Full Reading Hole. My System book. The easiest way though learning strategies that come with a home study course, a hundred bucks or thereabouts. And it’s it’s like eight audio sessions and go through it and you’ll read books with and as you go through the program, that’s the easiest way to learn it.

01:16:22:16 – 01:16:27:12
Nathan Crane
And then like it will guide you as you’re doing so. Yes, that’s cool. I like that.

01:16:27:12 – 01:16:51:02
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. Yeah, that’s the easiest way to learn. And we also have seminars and that gets up at the homestead of course, really the way to go and you can go through it multiple times because every time you go through the course, you’re getting more from it because you’re learning it from the perspective of already been here before and all of a sudden stuff that does not make did not make sense to you beforehand or something that had this particular meaning for you.

01:16:51:06 – 01:16:56:07
Pete Bissonette
It has a different meaning now that you’ve been using it. So as with everything is more playing with that.

01:16:56:17 – 01:17:10:01
Nathan Crane
Yeah. So with your mind tracks app. My mind here I still see it as mind tracks. Tracks what are what like what’s, what’s coming up with that. Like what’s, what’s the future look like for that.

01:17:10:24 – 01:17:46:01
Pete Bissonette
Well, the whole thing is that we’re building a subscriber base now and we’re finding out what our clients are looking for, what additional programs they want to have into it. And then we’ll be developing those per limited for that. So we’re putting a new aspect into it now where folks can ask questions if you have any question whatsoever about your your life or your self, it will come back and tell you which Paralympians to be using, etc. And then what we’re going to be able to do is based on the questions that people are asking, we don’t know who’s asking the questions.

01:17:46:05 – 01:18:08:13
Pete Bissonette
We just can see the questions. We can see what people are actually looking for and what else can be put into the program to. Make it easier for somebody to to get that experience, that result with that. Or maybe we need to create a coaching program for it. So now you have the 70 preliminaries, you get 70 video coaching sessions already to go deeper with that.

01:18:08:22 – 01:18:29:02
Pete Bissonette
Then there’s a half dozen other personal learning courses that are based on personal that included with that there’s a podcast and then we do, we have sleep tracks. You know that, that part where we talk about that different voice and each year we can different parts of your brain we separated out. So you can just listen to that part of it.

01:18:29:02 – 01:18:46:12
Pete Bissonette
And that is so cool when you’re when you’re falling asleep night to have those messages going on because that’s about sleep learning or if you wake up in the middle of the night, you can put on the sleep track and that will help you fall back to sleep in such a positive way. So you’re putting all these positive statements into your head.

01:18:46:21 – 01:18:59:17
Pete Bissonette
But the other thing is the outside gardening. I do it oftentimes I’ll put in my headphones and I’m often the garden just, you know, working in the the gardens and just all this beautiful, positive stuff is just flowing in and out of me.

01:19:00:15 – 01:19:20:10
Nathan Crane
I love that. So, so like I’m looking at the sleep and relaxation pair liminal. So like there’s just three on here. Which one is the one you were talking about or it’s not on there yet? The one between the one that you pulled out that you can just like listen to as you’re falling asleep.

01:19:21:01 – 01:19:25:20
Pete Bissonette
Or any of them on the sleep tracks. So when you’re there’s a couple of ways to get them. If you slide down.

01:19:26:01 – 01:19:34:21
Nathan Crane
This is how sleep tracks. Okay, so these are I see I see these now. Okay. So there’s like prosperity, success, relationships and love. Oh, okay. So this is new.

01:19:35:08 – 01:19:53:18
Pete Bissonette
Yeah. Yeah. So right above that, you’ll see the carousel appear limitless. Then you see like 10 minutes supercharge an abundant money mindset. So if you tap on a bunny money mindset and then if you do the see where you have that little moon in the Z, you tap on that and that’ll bring you right to that part of that terminal.

01:19:53:18 – 01:19:58:05
Pete Bissonette
So you can use that as a sleep track. So there’s different ways to use the sleep tracks.

01:19:58:17 – 01:20:03:12
Nathan Crane
That’s really cool. So it’s just that minute section as you’re falling asleep.

01:20:03:24 – 01:20:04:06
Pete Bissonette
Yeah.

01:20:04:23 – 01:20:16:17
Nathan Crane
That’s, that’s, that’s a huge upgrade here. That’s really cool. So this is so like is there a free version of mind tracks and then a paid version like what is the what’s it look like?

01:20:16:17 – 01:20:35:22
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, the thing to do is go into to go to my tracks dot com am I mdt tr xcom and sign up for a free trial. It’s a three day free trial and there’s no automatic charge. BLOCK So you get to play with it for three days and you can see if this is something that you really want to bring into your life.

01:20:36:04 – 01:20:52:07
Pete Bissonette
You can go to the app stores and do it, too, but then they’ll automatically charge after three days you go through my tracks, we want unmatched. They charge you. Then if you do decide that you want to do it, you can do it for 12 bucks a month or $99. Yeah, great price. And that way you have access to everything all the time.

01:20:53:09 – 01:20:56:23
Nathan Crane
And you guys are you guys are constantly adding more stuff to it over time. Yeah.

01:20:57:06 – 01:20:58:14
Pete Bissonette
Yep, absolutely.

01:20:59:04 – 01:21:14:03
Nathan Crane
That’s Awesome. I love it. I love it. Learning strategies from, you know, cassette tapes and floppy disks to you to and, you know, apps and your name is what a lot of crazy world. What a great summation.

01:21:14:10 – 01:21:36:00
Pete Bissonette
And, you know, it is a crazy world. That’s one of the reasons that you need something like what we’re doing, because it helps you make sense of the world and helps you make sense of your world, helps you bring yourself into a calm in the world and to create what it is that you want for your life. And it’s not about accepting life as it’s been dished out to you or it’s not about putting up with the obstacles.

01:21:36:06 – 01:21:51:07
Pete Bissonette
It’s how do you move through the obstacles and how you actually create that life that you want. That’s what we’ve been working out all of our lives. It’s the tell folks maximize their potential and we keep bringing out these new programs to make it easier and easier to do.

01:21:51:20 – 01:22:03:03
Nathan Crane
That’s awesome. That’s awesome, Pete. Well, hey, thanks, man. This has been a great. Yeah, great conversation. Thank you. Yeah Thanks for telling me about your childhood, your ghost friends when you were four. Yeah, you know?

01:22:03:06 – 01:22:03:20
Pete Bissonette
Yeah, yeah.

01:22:03:20 – 01:22:15:00
Nathan Crane
You know, I love that. I’m so glad you dove in. That was so awesome the stories you planned your whole life ahead. I didn’t know any of that. That’s. Yeah, that’s so cool. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks. Go to our podcast has been great.

01:22:15:17 – 01:22:16:13
Pete Bissonette
Badger Thank you.

01:22:16:24 – 01:22:17:20
Nathan Crane
All right. Take care.