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Audio Transcript
(This transcript was auto-generated so there may be some errors)
00;00;00;00 – 00;00;42;20
Nathan Crane
Everybody, welcome back to the podcast. I am really excited to have John Joseph here with us today. If you don’t know John, John is the author of a couple of pretty epic books, one that I just finished reading, which is Meat Is for Pussies. It is a really actually inspiring book, a lot of storytelling and a lot of empowering information on how to improve your life, your health, your overall well-being, your fitness, everything on a plant based diet and John’s own journey in transforming his health and his life.
00;00;42;21 – 00;01;25;17
Nathan Crane
It’s actually a pretty epic book, really well-written, just storytelling, funny, inspiring, crazy. Like, it’s it’s I highly recommend it. But John, if you don’t know him, he you grew up on the mean streets in New York City back in the mid-seventies. You know, we have a lot in common with kind of our childhood grew up, you know, struggling with addiction, homelessness got into punk rock has been in a punk rock band as a as a epic musician and eventually got into spiritual path, transformed into a plant based diet and is an Ironman athlete.
00;01;25;29 – 00;01;45;25
Nathan Crane
John, you’ve got this epic history and transformation and you’ve made it through a lot. You’ve inspired a lot of people and you’re just living your true, authentic self. So I’m excited to connect with you deeper, learn more about you and your story and what you’re up to. And I appreciate you coming on the podcast, man.
00;01;46;12 – 00;01;50;14
John Joseph
Hey, thanks for having me, brother. Appreciate that. Yeah.
00;01;51;05 – 00;02;08;24
Nathan Crane
Yeah. So I I’ve been it’s kind of funny because the first time we’ve met, I feel like I know you already. I’ve listened to hours and hours of your conversations with Rich Roll on his podcast. I’ve read your book. You’ve been listening? Yeah. You’ve as a guru, I think you’ve been on there like five or six times.
00;02;08;24 – 00;02;10;22
John Joseph
Probably five. Five times?
00;02;11;03 – 00;02;29;20
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Yeah. You share some pretty crazy stories. I was listening to story the other day of like when you were touring with your band and you guys were driving down the road and in your van and like the dude driving I think fell asleep or something and like rolled off the side of the cliff. You guys basically almost died.
00;02;30;12 – 00;02;32;16
John Joseph
What I was I didn’t fall asleep.
00;02;32;18 – 00;02;34;19
Nathan Crane
He he was stoned or something.
00;02;34;20 – 00;02;59;25
John Joseph
He was smoking fucking hash. And it was wintertime up in like the Vermont area. And I said, Hey, man, you know, it was snowing. And I said, stay on the main road, you know, because it’s going to be salted. And I was asleep in the front seat and I woke up to him going, Take a bug and we just went down a cliff.
00;02;59;25 – 00;03;09;23
John Joseph
So he went on some back road to try to save 20 minutes, hit black ice and yeah, it was not a good scene and but you know.
00;03;10;17 – 00;03;13;06
John Joseph
I did what I was supposed to do.
00;03;13;06 – 00;03;38;06
John Joseph
You know, when you you know, when death is there, you’re supposed to chant. And that’s that’s what I did. Everybody else in the band was screaming. I was just chanting, so. And I yeah, it was. Yeah, you know, I had a lot of those kind of run ins throughout my life, you know. So I give thanks to the most high every day.
00;03;38;06 – 00;03;52;07
John Joseph
I’m able to open my eyes in this world and try to leave it a little better than the way I found it. You know, I was that’s the that’s the standard. According to the vagaries of India’s.
00;03;52;07 – 00;04;16;09
Nathan Crane
Yeah. I mean, I love that that part of the story because, you know, you really practicing your spiritual practice in the moment that it matters most, right? When you’re basically facing a near-death experience and you go right into your spiritual practice, which is chanting and so you you just you’ve been a Hari Krishna devotee for a long time, right?
00;04;17;12 – 00;04;17;20
John Joseph
Yeah.
00;04;17;20 – 00;04;19;26
Nathan Crane
Like 30 years or something like that.
00;04;19;29 – 00;04;22;06
John Joseph
81 and since 81.
00;04;22;20 – 00;04;23;22
Nathan Crane
81. So it was.
00;04;24;07 – 00;04;26;12
John Joseph
I was vegan. Raw food is before.
00;04;26;12 – 00;04;34;26
John Joseph
I was a harikrishna that’s I didn’t get into that from Harikrishna. I was already plant based, raw like.
00;04;34;26 – 00;04;35;21
John Joseph
Raw foods.
00;04;35;21 – 00;05;00;29
John Joseph
Hardcore man sprouting and all of that stuff like the first The Banyan Tree. I forget what the first month this dude Kevin had the first like raw food place on the Lower East Side in like 81. And I saw the chorus kavinsky speak. I got a job at a health food store which was connected to a yoga institute on 13th Street.
00;05;00;29 – 00;05;29;16
John Joseph
So I got free yoga classes and got to go and work in the kitchen and study with people that cooked Ira Vedic stuff, you know, with the spices. And then, you know, they always had speakers come, you know, when Wigmore had Properties Health and Victoria, Stravinsky’s and Swamis and it was a great time too. And I was searching for something, you know, I came off the streets.
00;05;29;16 – 00;05;49;08
John Joseph
I did two years in lock up. I went into the military, I was a drug addict, so I fucked that up and went a while, as a matter of fact, because I caught a drug case in Norfolk, Virginia, and I was looking at like some serious time and I was like, Yo, I can’t I can’t do that again.
00;05;49;08 – 00;05;58;08
John Joseph
I just did that in New York in the worst places as inspire food for three months in the Bronx and then upstate. You know they had.
00;05;58;08 – 00;05;58;23
John Joseph
Us gone.
00;05;58;23 – 00;06;11;12
John Joseph
Through that whole scared Straight program in 78 when I was locked up. So we went to like Fishkill, Rahway, you know, all that stuff. So if.
00;06;11;12 – 00;06;12;23
John Joseph
You don’t offer people.
00;06;13;22 – 00;06;18;29
John Joseph
Something to replace all that negativity, right, it’s going to keep offending because yeah.
00;06;19;09 – 00;06;22;26
John Joseph
Everybody that walked into those prisons, they scared the shit out of.
00;06;22;26 – 00;06;31;25
John Joseph
Us and it lasted maybe a week. And then it was like when I got out, I went right back to selling drugs on the street and and got popped again.
00;06;32;00 – 00;06;49;17
Nathan Crane
No, no. They call prison rehabilitation. And it’s not I mean, prison is not rehabilitation, actually. You know who people it’s it’s proven people who go to prison more often than not actually end up doing worse things than when they got there. Because the environment.
00;06;50;00 – 00;06;51;17
John Joseph
You become a better criminal.
00;06;51;17 – 00;06;53;25
John Joseph
And that’s now that.
00;06;54;12 – 00;06;56;09
John Joseph
I mean, if you look at the documentary the.
00;06;56;09 – 00;06;58;26
John Joseph
13th, you know, about the 13th Amendment.
00;06;59;03 – 00;07;00;11
John Joseph
It’s basically.
00;07;00;15 – 00;07;01;19
John Joseph
There it’s a.
00;07;01;19 – 00;07;02;15
John Joseph
Modern form of.
00;07;02;15 – 00;07;05;07
John Joseph
Slavery because they’re trying to get inmates.
00;07;05;15 – 00;07;10;05
John Joseph
You know, you had inmates make in Victoria’s Secret underwear and fucking all this other.
00;07;10;05 – 00;07;13;24
John Joseph
Shit and then growing, you know, the.
00;07;14;05 – 00;07;17;11
John Joseph
You know, growing vegetables for like fast food places.
00;07;17;11 – 00;07;20;29
John Joseph
And paying them like a dollar a day. And.
00;07;21;10 – 00;07;24;22
John Joseph
You know, that’s the 13th Amendment is like if you’re incarcerated.
00;07;24;22 – 00;07;28;11
John Joseph
You lose all your rights. So that, you know, they don’t try.
00;07;28;12 – 00;07;31;01
John Joseph
And now that prisons are traded on Wall Street.
00;07;31;01 – 00;07;31;14
John Joseph
You know.
00;07;31;14 – 00;07;34;09
John Joseph
It’s like it’s business. They got to keep those beds full.
00;07;34;27 – 00;07;35;29
John Joseph
And I mean, this.
00;07;35;29 – 00;07;38;04
John Joseph
Was years ago. Now, with all the craziness.
00;07;38;04 – 00;07;48;12
John Joseph
That’s going on, you can shoot somebody and be back out on the street. It happened to my friend and the guy was back out on the street in a matter of like two weeks, you know? No, you know.
00;07;48;12 – 00;08;12;00
Nathan Crane
So now I went out to juvie when I was like 16. You know, I was similar. Similar kind of childhood in a lot of ways, you know, drug addiction, hardcore drug addiction, alcoholism, you know, arrested many times and then house arrest, all that, and then basically went to juvie. And, you know, I went there and it was basically I mean, it was basically prison for for teenagers.
00;08;12;00 – 00;08;41;27
Nathan Crane
I was in there with murderers. And, you know, I didn’t you know, I was I don’t remember how long I was in. There was like a couple of weeks or something. And it was even for teenagers, you would think they’re trying to rehabilitate you and make you a better person. All that it was like I was locked up like 20 something hours a day and there was no therapy, there was no health food, there was no discussion of how to become a better person or how to heal emotionally or how to deal with the traumas that you have or the addictions that you have.
00;08;41;27 – 00;09;08;27
Nathan Crane
It was like sharpening your fucking toothbrush so that you don’t get shanked, you know, have one in your pocket kind of thing. Because that’s the kind of environment that that I was in. Even even as a teenager, you know, in a in a in a pretty heavy jail, in prison for kids, whatever it was. Even then at that age, it was basically a replication of what, you know, prisons are like today.
00;09;08;27 – 00;09;29;06
Nathan Crane
And that’s, you know, and people think, oh, yeah, they did terrible things, lock them up. They’re bad people. But you and I both know it’s it’s it’s the traumas in our life. It’s the abuse, it’s the neglect. It’s the, you know, that lead to the addictions, that lead to the terrible behaviors that lead to then being in prison.
00;09;29;06 – 00;09;46;06
Nathan Crane
And really what you need is you need love, you need compassion, you need education, you need support. You found that obviously through your own journey. And so is that then what led you to becoming Harikrishna? Is that kind of what led you down a spiritual path like?
00;09;46;22 – 00;09;48;24
John Joseph
You know, I was very.
00;09;48;24 – 00;09;49;17
John Joseph
Fortunate.
00;09;49;21 – 00;10;05;28
John Joseph
That I got into like punk rock in the seventies, you know, which was anti-establishment, not what you see going on, that this is like completely the real deal shit compared to these fucking, you know, now it’s.
00;10;05;28 – 00;10;06;07
John Joseph
About.
00;10;06;07 – 00;10;33;03
John Joseph
Fashion and fucking tattoos and whatever the fuck like back then, you know, it was, it was a lot different. So I started going to punk rock clubs in 77, you know, like I would sell drugs during the day time. And then at night I was, I spent time on the Lower East Side or, you know, going to Max’s or Cbd’s or, you know, there are the bars that punk rock.
00;10;33;03 – 00;10;33;18
John Joseph
Clubs and.
00;10;33;18 – 00;10;40;09
John Joseph
Stuff like that. So when I went, I was into rock and roll, too. I saw Led Zeppelin.
00;10;40;09 – 00;10;41;23
John Joseph
I used to hustle fucking.
00;10;41;23 – 00;11;13;20
John Joseph
Drugs at the concerts at the Garden and Nassau Coliseum and and then go in and see the show. So I that music thing, even when I was a kid in a foster home, we were being fucking every type of abuse imaginable starved, beaten, molested, everything. And music was always like my outlet. Like, they made us live in a garage and like, you know, I got this like, little am radio, and that was like my lifeline out of the misery.
00;11;13;20 – 00;11;31;09
John Joseph
It was always music. It was always black music, you know, like soul music. And then so music was a big part of it. And even in lockup, when I was locked up, you know, they had like kind of like a.
00;11;31;09 – 00;11;31;19
John Joseph
Rec.
00;11;31;19 – 00;11;53;20
John Joseph
Room. So everybody that listened to rock and roll would be over here and then the funk and, you know, the brothers would be and then the Spanish dudes, all, you know, it was bad type of thing. But when I went into the military, I was heavily into punk rock. So when I got to know before I started going to this, the punk, whatever.
00;11;53;20 – 00;11;54;00
John Joseph
Punk.
00;11;54;00 – 00;12;19;25
John Joseph
Shows that were at Taj Mahal and the Kings head in on Hampton Boulevard, and I got to meet the Bad Brains. And that was really a life changing thing because they had just started getting into Rastafari like they buried. They didn’t even have dreads at that point. They were still had the spiky like punk rock hair. This was like the spring of 1980.
00;12;19;25 – 00;12;22;29
John Joseph
So like, you know.
00;12;23;16 – 00;12;25;01
John Joseph
When you first get into something.
00;12;25;01 – 00;12;53;16
John Joseph
Like that, just like when I got into yoga and philosophy, it’s always, you want to tell the next person or even the plant based shit. You’re like, you’re absorbing the knowledge, but you’re also paying it forward. And that’s how a job was at that point. So he kind of took me under his wing. And then when that drug shit happened and I had to split, you know, I was hanging out with like Henry Rollins and Ian MacKaye in DC and the whole DC punk scene in 1980.
00;12;53;16 – 00;13;15;21
John Joseph
So I went into to see this band on there at the 930 Club, and they were from New York. So I hitched a ride with them and came back up and moved in with the bad brains and that was like how my, you know, their sound man Jay doubly was like raw food. First he started turning me on to all the philosophy books and everything else.
00;13;16;07 – 00;13;22;27
John Joseph
Got a job at that health food store, and then it was really about just changing your environment. And that’s why I.
00;13;22;27 – 00;13;23;16
John Joseph
Just did this.
00;13;23;16 – 00;13;50;01
John Joseph
Documentary with Kip Anderson and what do you call it? My dude over there. Porter Together we put this documentary together called 30 to Life, and we worked with these like, dudes who did over 20 years in some of the worst prisons. You know, in in California, you’re talking San Quentin, Chino, Pelican Bay. Like the real shit. Not no, not, no.
00;13;50;01 – 00;14;20;05
John Joseph
Kenny boot camp shit and we just showed them in this documentary that if anybody is showed, like you said, love and compassion and giving a way out regardless of their past, anyone can change. I really I really believe that. And we proved it in the documentary because I think out of all those people, only one person re-offended and they went on to lead productive lives.
00;14;20;05 – 00;14;20;29
John Joseph
As a matter of fact, I’m.
00;14;20;29 – 00;14;44;17
John Joseph
In touch with Lewis, my friend from the documentary when you see it. I got him a guitar from I think there was Ibanez or one of these guitar companies. I reached out to a friend of mine. I was like, Hey, man, this guy started playing fucking acoustic guitar in the joint with like three strings on it, and he gifted like, an amp and a fucking beautiful guitar and all these.
00;14;44;19 – 00;14;46;18
John Joseph
So, like, you know.
00;14;46;18 – 00;14;50;12
John Joseph
No one ever really showed these guys love.
00;14;50;12 – 00;15;04;23
John Joseph
Man. Like, like, you know, we rich roll. We did a5k run and the whole community came out to like the town to cheer these guys on and oh, never been.
00;15;04;23 – 00;15;08;16
John Joseph
In the ocean. And Paul took them swimming.
00;15;09;01 – 00;15;11;21
John Joseph
You know, and then like some of them had.
00;15;11;21 – 00;15;12;16
John Joseph
A fear of heights.
00;15;12;16 – 00;15;14;12
John Joseph
And what Paul do, he.
00;15;14;12 – 00;15;15;19
John Joseph
Took them skydiving.
00;15;15;19 – 00;15;39;19
John Joseph
You know, like we made them do community service. They went to a farm sanctuary and like got to meet the animals and like, man, how could I ever have eaten this fucking animal like this? You know? So it’s just taking him out of that environment and exposing people to different types of things, you know? And yeah, yeah, we were, you know.
00;15;39;25 – 00;15;40;20
John Joseph
The weird.
00;15;40;20 – 00;15;59;02
John Joseph
Thing and then the financing kind of dropped out. So it’s, I think it needs some more editing and some other stuff and but eventually that’ll come out and you know, I think it’s a very strong piece of work that we did.
00;15;59;06 – 00;16;01;10
Nathan Crane
What’s it what’s it called? What’s going to be called?
00;16;01;13 – 00;16;02;13
John Joseph
30 to life.
00;16;02;23 – 00;16;06;01
Nathan Crane
30 to life. Okay. So it’s not out. It’s not out yet, but.
00;16;06;11 – 00;16;09;18
John Joseph
It’s not out yet. It’s sitting there. It’s all recorded, you know.
00;16;09;27 – 00;16;12;06
John Joseph
Because the thing was you had to do follow ups.
00;16;12;09 – 00;16;26;25
John Joseph
So we waited like three years. Okay, where are they now? Type thing? And then when we started doing all the, uh, follow up interviews, then the pandemic hit. So like then it was just, everything was like the fuck down.
00;16;26;25 – 00;16;33;01
Nathan Crane
So, you know, I want to, I want to see it like, it sounds amazing. Is there like a crowdfunding campaign? People can.
00;16;33;20 – 00;16;36;15
John Joseph
Think, like, he just finished his thing called.
00;16;36;28 – 00;16;38;19
John Joseph
Christ spiritually, so.
00;16;38;19 – 00;16;39;08
Nathan Crane
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00;16;39;23 – 00;16;59;27
John Joseph
So that’s coming. And I think, like, this is going to be the next thing. So yeah, we’ll do crowdfunding, whatever the hell, try to get this film out. I think it’s very relevant, especially now, you know, just everything that’s going on. So see what happens, you know.
00;17;00;10 – 00;17;33;07
Nathan Crane
When that’s I mean, you know, talking about uh, plant based for a second, but also people in prison, people who are homeless, uh, you know, the outcasts of society, the people that everybody forgets about or doesn’t care about. You know, compassion is at the root in the heart of most spiritual traditions, whether it’s it’s Hari Krishnas, it’s Buddhism, Zen Christianity, right.
00;17;33;07 – 00;17;58;17
Nathan Crane
I’ve I’ve had some beautiful, incredible experiences chanting with the Hari Krishnas in San Diego years ago and and has spent a lot of time, many years studying directly with Zen masters and Buddhist masters. And, you know, compassion is really at the heart of these spiritual traditions and not only compassion for animals don’t eat the animals because they have souls.
00;17;58;17 – 00;18;29;20
Nathan Crane
They are living beings. And by practicing compassion with them, by not eating them, we are building compassion and good karma in our own lives. Right? Good actions, catharsis, good intentions lead to good results in our lives, but also compassion for humans. And, you know, you look at Jesus in the story of the Bible, for example, and, you know, the people that he served the most, the people who came to him, the one that he the ones that he healed, the ones who basically became his disciples.
00;18;30;00 – 00;18;56;24
Nathan Crane
These were all the outcasts, the drug addicts, the alcoholics, the homeless, the outcasts of society. Right. The disease, the lepers, the people with, you know, that nobody would touch or be around. These are the ones that he helped the most. And yet today, people, whether they’re practicing Christians or not, like, I think so many are lacking compassion for other human beings.
00;18;56;24 – 00;19;06;07
Nathan Crane
They look at the outcasts of society, the black sheep, the the drug addicts, the homeless, the imprisoned. And they’re like, well, they deserve that. That’s their own.
00;19;06;21 – 00;19;08;08
John Joseph
They look no further.
00;19;08;08 – 00;19;11;05
John Joseph
Than the vegan movement, man. I mean, the way that.
00;19;11;05 – 00;19;14;29
John Joseph
They fucking treat other people is just. That’s why they call it a bad fucking.
00;19;14;29 – 00;19;15;24
John Joseph
Rap, right?
00;19;16;09 – 00;19;17;00
John Joseph
Like, yo.
00;19;17;07 – 00;19;30;03
Nathan Crane
That’s one of the reasons I got out of, like, kind of the raw food community because it was so the at least the community that I was part of was like, so cult like. And I saw that mindset and I was just like, dude, it’s like, it’s too much. There’s too much.
00;19;30;03 – 00;19;33;25
John Joseph
I mean, raw food is like some elitist motherfuckers.
00;19;34;14 – 00;19;34;21
Nathan Crane
Yeah.
00;19;35;01 – 00;19;40;27
John Joseph
And I’ve been doing this shit longer than anybody, you know? Come on. I’ve been doing this shit, you know.
00;19;41;00 – 00;19;42;05
John Joseph
40, 43.
00;19;42;05 – 00;19;50;10
John Joseph
Years going on, like, into the raw foods and and all that stuff. And, you know, I just look at it this way, man, like, you know, even when I did.
00;19;50;10 – 00;19;51;24
John Joseph
Joe Rogan’s podcast.
00;19;51;29 – 00;19;54;03
John Joseph
You know, all the vegans were like.
00;19;54;08 – 00;19;56;17
John Joseph
I can’t believe you didn’t call him out for.
00;19;56;17 – 00;19;57;23
John Joseph
Hunting. Like.
00;19;58;03 – 00;20;02;19
John Joseph
You know, they wanted a three hour fucking, like, confrontational podcast.
00;20;02;19 – 00;20;03;05
John Joseph
And I’m like.
00;20;03;20 – 00;20;07;05
John Joseph
Yeah, listen, you get you attract more.
00;20;07;14 – 00;20;08;12
John Joseph
You know, and.
00;20;08;12 – 00;20;10;15
John Joseph
I can’t even use the analogy.
00;20;10;15 – 00;20;12;25
John Joseph
Because they’re all against funny. But, you know.
00;20;12;25 – 00;20;17;14
John Joseph
You attract more people. You attract more, more with money.
00;20;17;14 – 00;20;17;23
John Joseph
Than you.
00;20;17;23 – 00;20;21;21
John Joseph
Do or maple sirup vegan sari than you do with.
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John Joseph
Vinegar.
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John Joseph
And I had so many people write me after that podcast and be.
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John Joseph
Like, Hey, man.
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John Joseph
That was a respectful conversation. And like, you’re the first and I don’t even call myself a vegan. That was the first shit.
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John Joseph
I’m like.
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John Joseph
I don’t call myself a vegan. Joe He’s like, Yeah, but you wrote a book called Meat Is for Pussies was the first thing out of his mouth.
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John Joseph
And I’m like.
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John Joseph
It’s taking the piss out of people. You know how many motherfuckers told me? Like, Oh yeah.
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John Joseph
You don’t eat meat. You know, you’re.
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John Joseph
A fucking weakling. And this and.
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John Joseph
That, you need me.
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John Joseph
So listen, that’s what I do.
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John Joseph
I’m a New Yorker, man.
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John Joseph
You fuck with me, I’m fucked you ten times harder. But it was all in good fun.
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John Joseph
I mean, it was never, you know.
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John Joseph
Like putting people down. I’ve always.
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John Joseph
Like, you know.
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John Joseph
Tried to help people to change their.
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John Joseph
Diets and I think like.
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John Joseph
Added the whole thing. And anybody that’s been doing it.
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John Joseph
And I’m.
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John Joseph
Not just bragging, but I think I made more people change their diet and lifestyles than anybody that’s.
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John Joseph
Fucking doing that shit and been at it longer.
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John Joseph
But if you judge something by the result, right, then what’s the result that a lot of those people got over the years?
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John Joseph
Oh fuck vegans. And then it was like.
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John Joseph
Oh yo, this dude makes sense and he’s funny. All the vice clips that I.
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John Joseph
Did, lasagna and the rest of it, you know.
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John Joseph
That fucking lasagna, the smell of.
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John Joseph
Shit, the just everything that, you know, even the thing I.
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John Joseph
Did with Ryan.
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John Joseph
Rhodes, you know, London, real fucking Iron Man. You know, the movie, whatever.
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John Joseph
It’s always like coming from a good place.
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John Joseph
Not like you know. And I always.
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John Joseph
I always say that show is like, you know.
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John Joseph
Any one of us is.
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John Joseph
One check away.
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John Joseph
From being homeless, you know?
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John Joseph
So I’ve been feeding the homeless since 19.
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John Joseph
82 in New York City.
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John Joseph
And not just like paying for it and cooking it, but actually going out on the front.
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John Joseph
Lines to the community, sitting down with people and like.
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John Joseph
I was homeless as a kid on the fucking streets.
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John Joseph
And so it’s like, I understand what it’s about, but.
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John Joseph
I had some of the realest conversations ever.
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John Joseph
Sitting down with some of those people in New York and even.
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John Joseph
In the last the book I wrote, The PMA Effect, I said, Listen, you can’t judge nobody. I understand where they came from, cause.
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John Joseph
There was this one guy and I.
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John Joseph
Used to see him all the time, and he would just come and get the food and never talk to nobody and.
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John Joseph
Then, like.
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John Joseph
Sit out there in a.
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John Joseph
Park bench and eat. And then I.
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John Joseph
Just finally started sitting.
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John Joseph
Down with him and, you know, chopping it up.
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John Joseph
And I found out his story. I was like, Yeah.
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John Joseph
I mean, I know why I ended up homeless, but like, you know, like this what happened with me? Like, I.
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John Joseph
Opened up to him.
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John Joseph
And then he was like, Yeah, well, you know.
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John Joseph
It took that minute to be like, you could tell that this was a fucking.
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John Joseph
Load of just heaviness that he’s been carrying around in life. And he was like, I had the Wall.
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John Joseph
Street job, high six.
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John Joseph
Figures, condo, family, everything like.
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John Joseph
Vacations, you know, cars, house, upstate, the whole anything, you know, summer house in the fucking Hamptons.
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John Joseph
He had it all.
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John Joseph
And then his wife and children were killed by a drunk driver. So then he started drinking. He lost everything overnight. Everything was gone, his entire world. And he said, I started drinking to deal with that pain.
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John Joseph
And then I.
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John Joseph
Wasn’t going to work. And then I started doing cocaine.
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John Joseph
And then, you know.
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John Joseph
I got the eviction notice and he was sleeping on the fucking FDR Drive on the East River in.
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John Joseph
An in a.
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John Joseph
Homeless encampment with, like, tarps and shit.
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John Joseph
And like, I, you know, I was like, wow. Like, fucking, you know, I knew.
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John Joseph
To do that a story, but.
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John Joseph
It was like and then I.
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John Joseph
Didn’t see him for a.
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John Joseph
While and I thought, fuck, you know, you think the worst, you know, like the state of consciousness that he was in and.
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John Joseph
Then he showed up one.
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John Joseph
Time and he.
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John Joseph
Was helping us, you know, because we would serve out in the rain and everything. We would just build like a.
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John Joseph
You know, like.
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John Joseph
We had like a tarp.
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John Joseph
That we built.
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John Joseph
To make a tent.
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John Joseph
So people could come in and get. And he.
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John Joseph
Helped us set up.
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John Joseph
And he was.
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John Joseph
There all cleaned up and he’s like, Yeah, man, I’ve been clean and sober. I went into a program and he helped set up the whole thing and he’s like, I just wanted to come back and pay it forward.
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John Joseph
And he told me that.
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John Joseph
He was going to jump off the Manhattan.
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John Joseph
Bridge and his family in.
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John Joseph
Dollars popped in his mind’s eye.
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John Joseph
And they were like, This is not what we want you to do. Yeah, it’s like moment. And he broke down, collapsed on the fucking animal.
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John Joseph
I used to run over that bridge, so I.
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John Joseph
Know how.
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John Joseph
Easy it is to just climb up that little fence.
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John Joseph
And and he climbed down and, like, collapsed crying. And then he went to get the help that he needed.
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John Joseph
But I just finished a book on addiction.
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John Joseph
And my brother passed away right in the middle of writing it, you know, from drugs.
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John Joseph
So I know all too well.
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John Joseph
You know, and the.
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John Joseph
Research that I’ve done in the.
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John Joseph
Book, which is probably going to come out in the first quarter of 2024, I had.
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John Joseph
I looked at statistics.
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John Joseph
And.
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John Joseph
Over 80% of every addict reports that they were abused as a.
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John Joseph
Child.
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John Joseph
And this is how they deal with that pain is by drug and that that was our story too we were horribly.
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John Joseph
Abused and my brother, I dealt with it my way through music and.
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John Joseph
Literature and writing.
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John Joseph
And even fighting, you know, all the time. And eventually, you know.
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John Joseph
It was the spiritual path that Paul.
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John Joseph
Pulled me kind of out of that. But even I relapsed.
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John Joseph
After so many years, 88.
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John Joseph
To 90, I had a huge relapse, you know.
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John Joseph
Freebasing cocaine.
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John Joseph
And fucking.
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John Joseph
Almost got murdered the first time I ever freemason.
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John Joseph
Down in Miami and and then.
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John Joseph
Crack pills and booze.
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John Joseph
And fucking went on a two year walking like insane thing, you know. And I.
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John Joseph
Had drug dealers put coast is kill on sites.
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John Joseph
On me and fucking everything and you know it was.
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John Joseph
I just broke down.
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John Joseph
One day.
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John Joseph
I got I lost everything.
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John Joseph
Man. I wanted to.
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John Joseph
It’s a crazy.
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John Joseph
Story. I mean, the book, it’s.
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John Joseph
It’s very heavy, but it’s also.
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John Joseph
You know, that I had a guardian angel God creation or whatever you want to call it, protecting me through all of that madness. Because, like, I.
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John Joseph
Had to let some people read it, like Joe.
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John Joseph
Rogan and some other people, because I want to quotes from them.
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John Joseph
And they like, Dude, I can’t believe that you survived this fucking.
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John Joseph
Shit. Like, I’m like.
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John Joseph
That’s the one they many people say it is like, how to fuck? Are you still.
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John Joseph
Alive?
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John Joseph
Like my whole I started fucking drinking and all that shit at 11 and ten years old and then popping.
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John Joseph
Pills and and, but, you know, even when I thought I had found my way, there was still and like I said in the book, when, when, you know, you think that, you know, you.
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John Joseph
Healed, but.
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John Joseph
You didn’t really it’s still there. And I said, you can.
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John Joseph
Cauterize the.
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John Joseph
Wound. You can.
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John Joseph
But if a bone doesn’t get set properly.
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John Joseph
It has to be re broke. Those those wounds will open up. And for me, the thing that did it the most was betrayal.
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John Joseph
With somebody betrayed.
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John Joseph
Me because I was.
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John Joseph
Betrayed as a kid.
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John Joseph
I felt, you know, people.
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John Joseph
Said they love me this and that.
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John Joseph
And then.
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John Joseph
They abused the fuck.
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John Joseph
Out of me.
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John Joseph
And I don’t trust nobody.
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John Joseph
And then when you put your.
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John Joseph
Trust in somebody and it was band.
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John Joseph
Members of one in particular and.
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John Joseph
Supposed to be my homie and rob me, and they’re like, Just cut. I just fell off.
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John Joseph
I just went off to fuck the rails and very destructive. And the only.
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John Joseph
Way I believe I survived was God’s.
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John Joseph
Grace because I had lost everything. I went into a.
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John Joseph
Crack.
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John Joseph
House in Alphabet City and I had like an ounce and a half of cocaine, and I was freebasing and these dudes fucking slammed me in the head with a.
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John Joseph
Fucking.
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John Joseph
Pipe and left me for dead man. Took all my shit. And I just went into.
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John Joseph
Tompkins Square Park and broke down.
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John Joseph
Crying and then the next day.
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John Joseph
I went to the High Commissioner Temple.
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John Joseph
In Brooklyn. I said, If you don’t let me stay here, I’m going to die. And the guy I knew, he had heard about all the stuff and was like, you know, basically said, you can stay here, but you have to get a job, you have to come to the morning programs. You have to do all the programs, spiritual programs in the temple, because that’s going to help you to put this behind you.
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John Joseph
And that’s what I did. So I had to crawl my way out of that shit, you know, and, you know.
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John Joseph
People say, Oh, I hit rock bottom.
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John Joseph
But I always say, you could.
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John Joseph
Go below the rocks with the.
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John Joseph
Maggots in the fucking decaying carcasses and fuckin, you know.
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John Joseph
You can always go.
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John Joseph
Lower, dude.
00;30;37;24 – 00;30;40;14
John Joseph
And I was such a scumbag. And at that.
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John Joseph
Point, you know, I.
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John Joseph
Wasn’t robbing little old ladies, but if you was a drug.
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John Joseph
Dealer and, you know, I took.
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John Joseph
Drugs off my.
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John Joseph
Friends like that, I never paid like but I made good on all of that. I had.
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John Joseph
To come back and face.
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John Joseph
That, you know, I didn’t do a program.
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John Joseph
The ten step program, but that’s one of them.
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John Joseph
Is you have to get the forgiveness of all the people that you wronged. And I.
00;31;06;16 – 00;31;08;15
John Joseph
Don’t. Not the ten step program. The 12.
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John Joseph
Step program. I’m sorry, but whatever.
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John Joseph
Works for anybody, that’s what I tell them.
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John Joseph
To do. Like somebody was like, Oh, man, I can’t find any.
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John Joseph
I slipped up. I started.
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John Joseph
Drinking again. I feel like shit. Do you know any online groups that meet? And I said, No, I don’t. But just go in.
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John Joseph
Person to a meeting. If you really want to get clean and sober.
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John Joseph
You don’t make excuses. You find a way to do it. And for me, even in 90, when I got.
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John Joseph
Off that.
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John Joseph
Shit.
00;31;43;15 – 00;31;51;03
John Joseph
I stay, I didn’t go into a program. I had to fucking walk past all the dudes. I was getting high with.
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John Joseph
Yo, you want.
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John Joseph
To hit this?
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John Joseph
So fucking you know, I was in the belly of the beast and I had my.
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John Joseph
Work and my program.
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John Joseph
Was I started, I got into I was a.
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John Joseph
Bike messenger, so I started.
00;32;05;28 – 00;32;06;18
John Joseph
Training.
00;32;06;25 – 00;32;11;09
John Joseph
Then I started going and taking some classes with Ron Van Cleef, the Black Dragon.
00;32;11;19 – 00;32;12;09
John Joseph
At Elbow.
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John Joseph
Ito. He was teaching martial arts. I got a job doing some construction with a friend of mine. He was a black.
00;32;17;29 – 00;32;22;23
John Joseph
Belt, so every day we would do some. He would show me.
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John Joseph
Some karate.
00;32;23;16 – 00;32;50;04
John Joseph
Techniques and just and, you know, just toeing the line, man. And that’s that’s what it took. It was the the sports that kind of pulled me out of that whole thing and the spirituality I started chanting. And so that, you know, where there’s a will, there’s a way, man, if you you know, I’m 61 now and I just did my 14th Ironman fucking you know.
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John Joseph
It’s like you have to have a daily routine is so many people talking about that from Jocko to fucking Joe Rogan.
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John Joseph
To.
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John Joseph
Like all the people I look up.
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John Joseph
To that really, you know, even like rich.
00;33;04;10 – 00;33;09;02
John Joseph
Well all of these people, they have a regiment that they follow.
00;33;10;04 – 00;33;15;26
John Joseph
That keeps you on the straight and narrow and. Goggins And all these fucking people. And then.
00;33;16;07 – 00;33;17;03
John Joseph
Women too.
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John Joseph
Like there’s so many amazing women that are doing amazing things. I just watched the movie about the woman.
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John Joseph
Who swam from.
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John Joseph
Cuba to my. What is it? Yeah, zero, whatever it is. On, on Netflix.
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Nathan Crane
Yeah, it’s on my watch list. I watched the trailer, I haven’t seen it.
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John Joseph
Very inspirational of like never giving up. And that’s what I said.
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John Joseph
At the end of the my memoir, which is right here, the evolution of a Cro-Magnon.
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John Joseph
The Last Words in there is you have to live by the code of the warrior. Never give up. You keep fighting. You keep showing up.
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John Joseph
To the battle every day. And that’s you know, that’s what I do every day, man, and.
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John Joseph
Try to pay it forward.
00;34;03;06 – 00;34;11;06
John Joseph
And help other people. And I think this next book is going to really do that because I day so many people relapsed during the pandemic.
00;34;11;06 – 00;34;12;03
John Joseph
And so many people.
00;34;12;03 – 00;34;13;02
John Joseph
That never even use.
00;34;13;02 – 00;34;13;22
John Joseph
Drugs.
00;34;14;03 – 00;34;21;29
John Joseph
Started using just to deal with the stress of all that you know and fell off from their regimens and you know.
00;34;22;05 – 00;34;43;13
Nathan Crane
Well and one of the things with addiction, you know, that I’ve found out over the years in working with thousands of people and talking about my story as well, I work with a lot of cancer patients and chronic disease patients. You know, it’s been my focus for about a decade now, is helping people prevent and empower their bodies to heal from cancer using natural and integrative methods.
00;34;43;13 – 00;35;13;10
Nathan Crane
And one of the things I found with addiction is that addiction is addiction is addiction, right? I may have been addicted to cocaine and meth and cigarets and alcohol and all, you know, pills and all these hard drugs. But people are addicted to sugar, to processed foods, to fast food, to sodas, to all these things. And that addiction is just as bad in many ways, you know, to at least it may not kill you as fast, but it’s going to kill you.
00;35;13;20 – 00;35;31;02
Nathan Crane
It may not it may not change your your behavior in a way that you’re going to go rob people for, you know, drug money. But it’s going to change your behavior. It’s going to, you know, make you more lethargic Jake. It’s going to make you lazier. It’s going to make you fatter. It’s going to make you think slower.
00;35;31;02 – 00;36;02;03
Nathan Crane
It’s going to make you more depressed. Right. We know that these high sugar foods, highly processed foods, highly palatable foods and fast foods are literally causing so much disease and depression and chronic illness on this planet that that addiction is just as bad or just as similar, I should say, to the addiction of hard drugs. I mean, sugar has been compared to cocaine in what it does to the brain in the same, you know, mechanisms that it fires in the brain.
00;36;02;03 – 00;36;02;09
Nathan Crane
Right.
00;36;02;16 – 00;36;07;10
John Joseph
About what cheese does to the brain. The guys from forks.
00;36;07;10 – 00;36;08;10
John Joseph
Over knives, the.
00;36;08;10 – 00;36;09;16
John Joseph
Doctors prove that.
00;36;09;16 – 00;36;17;28
John Joseph
That it has the same mechanism, that dopamine release from eating cheese, you know, you know, I mean, I think, you know.
00;36;18;00 – 00;36;20;05
John Joseph
The whole thing is what’s the ultimate.
00;36;20;05 – 00;36;21;14
John Joseph
Solution? And I.
00;36;21;14 – 00;36;22;13
John Joseph
Have to get back to the.
00;36;22;13 – 00;36;26;18
John Joseph
Spiritual roots of everything because in in.
00;36;26;26 – 00;36;28;18
John Joseph
The philosophy that I follow.
00;36;28;18 – 00;36;35;28
John Joseph
The state of Virginia die god we belabor science target dot image via t local moisture enormity that’s.
00;36;36;03 – 00;36;41;12
John Joseph
Bengali that the tongue is the most difficult and voracious to control of all the senses.
00;36;41;21 – 00;36;42;08
John Joseph
But once.
00;36;42;08 – 00;36;45;18
John Joseph
You bring the tongue under control, all the other senses fall in.
00;36;45;18 – 00;36;47;02
John Joseph
Line. And I find.
00;36;47;02 – 00;36;48;04
John Joseph
That to be so true.
00;36;48;04 – 00;37;09;18
John Joseph
Because people are eating all kinds of crap. They’re talking all kinds of nonsense. It’s like, you know, just control that. And then the next phase is, are I, you know, where do I go from there? And, you know, like my teacher probably said, you should never eat any processed food that comes from a can or anything like.
00;37;09;18 – 00;37;11;20
John Joseph
Everything should be fresh, natural.
00;37;11;20 – 00;37;18;16
John Joseph
Organic, no pesticide, you know. And I mean, they, you know, they.
00;37;18;16 – 00;37;22;22
John Joseph
Do dairy in the temple, but they get the dairy right it from a cow.
00;37;22;22 – 00;37;43;26
John Joseph
It’s not some animal that’s being abused. Like if you’re living on a farm and you don’t take away Paul’s, you know, you’re not taking away the, you know, the the calf from the mother, a crazy crap like that or abusing the animals. But it’s tradition in India, you know, they consume ghee and do whatever. It’s not for me.
00;37;43;26 – 00;37;57;06
John Joseph
I have a problem with that. So, you know, I kind of, you know, segway it out of eating any any dairy or anything. And, you know, it’s just my thing. But I.
00;37;57;29 – 00;38;00;15
John Joseph
If we want to get to solutions to all these.
00;38;00;15 – 00;38;08;28
John Joseph
Problems, it’s got to be higher. Consciousness is the solution to everything. Right? And I mean.
00;38;09;13 – 00;38;10;16
John Joseph
Look what just happened.
00;38;10;22 – 00;38;12;22
John Joseph
During the pandemic, right?
00;38;12;23 – 00;38;15;05
John Joseph
Over 80% of the fatalities.
00;38;15;05 – 00;38;18;02
John Joseph
Were the obese with three or more preexisting conditions.
00;38;18;11 – 00;38;21;07
John Joseph
Where’s the big push to get everybody healthy?
00;38;21;16 – 00;38;22;22
John Joseph
They fearmonger.
00;38;23;09 – 00;38;25;10
John Joseph
To get everybody to do all this other stuff.
00;38;25;10 – 00;38;26;22
John Joseph
Which I don’t want to get into.
00;38;26;29 – 00;38;40;10
John Joseph
But where’s the big campaign to get everybody healthy? Type two diabetes is at epidemic levels in America. Obesity. The U.S. adults have now hit 50% obesity rates. I think the children.
00;38;40;10 – 00;38;42;06
John Joseph
Are at 32%.
00;38;42;06 – 00;38;48;23
John Joseph
Where’s the big push to make everybody healthy? And like I did say, in various purposes.
00;38;50;06 – 00;38;50;24
John Joseph
You know, to the.
00;38;50;24 – 00;38;53;23
John Joseph
Pharmaceutical companies that are running this country.
00;38;53;23 – 00;38;57;08
John Joseph
And running the the health of this country and.
00;38;57;08 – 00;39;17;23
John Joseph
Rockefeller John de Rockefeller was the first one to take all the natural cures out of the textbooks in colleges and the medical institutions and replace it with petroleum based drugs, because he was a petroleum based person. And then when those drugs got cancer, what does he do? He turns around and starts to the American Cancer Society to control the.
00;39;17;23 – 00;39;18;25
John Joseph
Narrative on that.
00;39;19;03 – 00;39;37;01
John Joseph
And now we see and I talked about Codex Alimentarius in media, so teach to look at all the stuff that’s going out tomorrow. They’re trying to wipe out any mention of natural medicine. If you say that natural medicine and herbs can heal you on a YouTube video, your ship’s getting taken down.
00;39;37;10 – 00;40;17;17
Nathan Crane
Oh, we got we got demonetized because of that exact same thing. And I only share, you know, evidence based information on natural solutions. I mean, my my friend is put together almost 80,000 published scientific articles has pulled together the abstracts through a website called Green Med Info on Natural Medicine. This is in the peer reviewed literature at the top journals around the country, 77,000 abstracts on natural medicine for every disease on the planet plants, herbs, all kinds of natural things in one place.
00;40;17;17 – 00;40;36;25
Nathan Crane
And people are still being told today. Dr.. Students in medical school are still being told today. I hear from them because they’ll post on my, you know, Facebook posts and stuff from time to time, which just makes me laugh that that natural medicine doesn’t work. There’s no science that supports it. And this is what their parents are still being told.
00;40;36;25 – 00;40;38;02
Nathan Crane
This in medical school today.
00;40;38;03 – 00;40;44;05
John Joseph
Of course there isn’t, because John Rockefeller took all of that out of the textbooks through.
00;40;44;05 – 00;40;45;11
Nathan Crane
The Flexner report.
00;40;45;29 – 00;40;59;18
John Joseph
The licenses of doctors and completely controlled the narrative. So it’s about it’s about money. Just like I always say, a patient cure is a customer lost. We have to take responsibility for.
00;40;59;18 – 00;41;03;07
John Joseph
Our own health and wellness at this point. And I oh.
00;41;03;13 – 00;41;13;21
John Joseph
I always did that. I always trusted my immune system. And then all of a sudden it became a conspiracy theory, like the immune system is a conspiracy theory.
00;41;14;01 – 00;41;15;03
John Joseph
So, you know.
00;41;15;26 – 00;41;21;06
John Joseph
Of course, that’s what they want to do because they’ve completely hijacked medicine.
00;41;21;17 – 00;41;23;01
John Joseph
And, you know, big.
00;41;23;01 – 00;41;43;28
John Joseph
Pharma is the real I’m sorry, like even even Dana White. You just fasted and did all this stuff. You said, I’ll never go to a doctor again as long as I fucking live unless I break a bone or something like that. Like they don’t tell you about the power of fasting. The mitochondria are all the shit that the benefits of fasting.
00;41;44;07 – 00;42;10;17
John Joseph
It kills off all those dead cells and regenerates your cells and does all of this stuff. The infrared sauna. They don’t teach you about cold. They don’t teach you about raw, organic produce and the powers of nutrients and all this stuff. It’s all about take this pill to hide the symptoms and then that’s going to cause more disease and you’re going to need another pill for that.
00;42;10;28 – 00;42;15;09
John Joseph
And that’s how this whole system and look where it’s gotten people.
00;42;15;18 – 00;42;16;05
John Joseph
I mean.
00;42;16;13 – 00;42;21;08
John Joseph
Like I said, I’m born in 1962 and I started working.
00;42;21;08 – 00;42;22;28
John Joseph
In the what they want.
00;42;22;28 – 00;42;24;10
John Joseph
To call alternative health.
00;42;24;10 – 00;42;25;18
John Joseph
Industry in 81.
00;42;25;18 – 00;42;48;18
John Joseph
And they were talking about the hippie in the health food store. This guy Tom was like, Yo, they’re trying to pass this crazy shit called Codex Alimentarius. I was like, What the fuck is that? It’s like. And he said, It’s the pharmaceutical companies banning any kind of mention of herbs, then restricted them. And the power, the healing power of plants.
00;42;48;18 – 00;42;51;04
John Joseph
But you can go watch a documentary like.
00;42;52;15 – 00;42;53;06
John Joseph
You know, like.
00;42;53;06 – 00;43;03;08
John Joseph
Fucking forks over knives or what the hell. And you see the case after case after case of people just turning their health completely.
00;43;03;08 – 00;43;03;27
John Joseph
Around.
00;43;04;09 – 00;43;08;04
John Joseph
And they’re more vibrant. And it’s not that.
00;43;08;04 – 00;43;08;26
John Joseph
You know, like the.
00;43;08;26 – 00;43;12;03
John Joseph
Real food people, they’re so fucking obsessed with wheatgrass.
00;43;12;03 – 00;43;14;14
John Joseph
Enemas and every other fucking thing they’re doing.
00;43;14;21 – 00;43;16;25
John Joseph
I’m like, Yo, you’re obsessed with this shit.
00;43;16;25 – 00;43;17;19
John Joseph
You’re, you’re.
00;43;18;10 – 00;43;26;17
John Joseph
I couldn’t fucking spend more than 5 minutes with you. But this is the vehicle we have in this lifetime to do what we got to do.
00;43;26;18 – 00;43;30;26
John Joseph
For me, it’s, you know, I built yoga.
00;43;30;26 – 00;43;34;21
John Joseph
Ashrams that feed the homeless with my own hands. I’m out there fucking.
00;43;35;03 – 00;43;35;21
John Joseph
You know.
00;43;35;21 – 00;43;51;04
John Joseph
At 61 years old, fucking still competing, still helping people like this is this is what we have, this vehicle, we have to take care of it. This is the temple. This is our vehicle. That’s where the passenger we’re the soul in the body.
00;43;51;18 – 00;43;53;15
John Joseph
So, you know, we can’t.
00;43;53;15 – 00;44;03;24
John Joseph
Neglect this because look what happens to sick people that are they’re just at the doctor constantly, their whole quality of life.
00;44;04;24 – 00;44;05;14
John Joseph
And I always.
00;44;05;14 – 00;44;06;12
John Joseph
Got these people, my.
00;44;07;18 – 00;44;08;04
John Joseph
Smoked.
00;44;08;04 – 00;44;22;26
John Joseph
Pork and five packs of cigarets and I’ve got it out. And she lived to 100. I could give a shit less how long they lived, what was the quality of that life, right? That’s what I’m looking for is the quality of life.
00;44;23;11 – 00;44;24;29
John Joseph
Like, I don’t I’m not.
00;44;24;29 – 00;44;30;16
John Joseph
On a single medication. I my I’m fucking like next.
00;44;31;01 – 00;44;31;22
John Joseph
You know, I want.
00;44;31;24 – 00;44;33;19
John Joseph
78% body.
00;44;33;19 – 00;44;34;11
John Joseph
Fat like.
00;44;34;23 – 00;44;43;20
John Joseph
But I’m not sitting there weighing myself every day either. Obsessed. Oh, do you count calories? I get this fucking wackadoo is asking me all this shit.
00;44;43;20 – 00;44;44;02
John Joseph
I’m like.
00;44;44;08 – 00;44;45;25
John Joseph
I don’t fucking count calorie.
00;44;45;25 – 00;44;46;26
John Joseph
Is you.
00;44;46;26 – 00;44;52;23
John Joseph
Know what I had this morning. Fucking organic steel cut oats with organic blueberries.
00;44;52;24 – 00;44;53;07
John Joseph
In like.
00;44;53;16 – 00;44;54;26
John Joseph
Almond butter toast.
00;44;55;07 – 00;44;55;20
John Joseph
You know.
00;44;55;20 – 00;44;57;15
John Joseph
Organic and juice.
00;44;57;15 – 00;44;58;23
John Joseph
And I don’t.
00;44;58;23 – 00;44;59;14
John Joseph
Have to count.
00;44;59;14 – 00;45;01;06
John Joseph
Calories. I How many.
00;45;01;06 – 00;45;07;08
John Joseph
Calories do you consume on the day? I couldn’t fuck could tell you I just eat when I’m hungry.
00;45;07;15 – 00;45;07;23
John Joseph
And.
00;45;07;23 – 00;45;10;00
John Joseph
Then when I start to feel full, I stop.
00;45;11;12 – 00;45;12;00
John Joseph
And.
00;45;12;21 – 00;45;16;29
John Joseph
You know, like I said, if you judge something, by the result I’ve been.
00;45;16;29 – 00;45;17;12
John Joseph
Doing.
00;45;17;18 – 00;45;20;15
John Joseph
I started doing wheatgrass juice fasts in fucking.
00;45;20;15 – 00;45;21;12
John Joseph
81 and.
00;45;21;23 – 00;45;24;12
John Joseph
Went to Puerto Rico and grew sprouts there.
00;45;24;12 – 00;45;26;05
John Joseph
In Hawaii and just been doing this.
00;45;26;15 – 00;45;38;22
John Joseph
For so long. And I really feel even when I was in the in the grips of addiction, I would be up for three days smoking crack and then be like, Yo, let’s go get some fucking wheatgrass juice and detox.
00;45;40;01 – 00;45;41;25
John Joseph
Oh, yes. And I feel.
00;45;41;25 – 00;45;44;00
John Joseph
Like that’s I never slip back.
00;45;44;16 – 00;45;46;05
John Joseph
Figures or any of that shit.
00;45;46;07 – 00;46;15;10
Nathan Crane
Do you feel like that? Because I literally had like the exact same experiences growing up in Bozeman, Montana. I got taken in when I was homeless. I got taken in for a little while by my best friend’s family, who are vegetarians and really spiritual. And I think partly what like kept me from dying literally was after a three or four day binge, then, you know, I go eat like a healthy, organic vegetarian meal, you know, and I didn’t I didn’t know vegetarian, vegan carnivore.
00;46;15;10 – 00;46;28;20
Nathan Crane
I didn’t know anything about any of that. Nothing. It was just like, that’s the food that I had. And I’d eat it and I’d, you know, and, like, fresh juice and, you know, sandwiches and stuff, all organic, all super clean, fresh stuff. And I was like, and.
00;46;28;20 – 00;46;30;04
John Joseph
I’d throw I.
00;46;30;04 – 00;46;37;16
Nathan Crane
Feel like it’s I feel like it was partly what saved my life. Aside from the angels. They’re like, you were talking about. You had angels absolutely. Around you.
00;46;37;17 – 00;46;41;22
John Joseph
It’s like an angels in human form. Yeah, that’s the thing.
00;46;42;00 – 00;46;43;17
John Joseph
I had a lot of compassion in.
00;46;43;17 – 00;47;00;25
John Joseph
People around me, man. I would show up at Angelica Kitchen and Leslie, the owner and my friends. That work day would be would be like, Hey, man, here’s a dragon ball, which was like everything organic brown rice, beans, greens, dressing, vegan, you know, squat, like whatever. There was always.
00;47;00;25 – 00;47;01;26
John Joseph
People there.
00;47;03;06 – 00;47;04;21
John Joseph
Helping me out, and.
00;47;04;21 – 00;47;09;12
John Joseph
That’s why I could never repay that. It’s like, it’s like, how do I repay.
00;47;10;05 – 00;47;10;21
John Joseph
You know.
00;47;10;21 – 00;47;11;16
John Joseph
How do I pay?
00;47;11;16 – 00;47;14;23
John Joseph
Prabhupada Who who who gave me.
00;47;14;23 – 00;47;16;07
John Joseph
The knowledge that took me out.
00;47;16;07 – 00;47;16;11
John Joseph
Of.
00;47;17;04 – 00;47;19;06
John Joseph
All the worship anybody.
00;47;19;06 – 00;47;21;28
John Joseph
Could ever imagine? You can’t.
00;47;22;24 – 00;47;36;03
John Joseph
And even the people like when i asked, h.r, you know, how do i man, you fucking did so much for me. You were the first person to ever put a mike in my hand. And that guy that took me all over the planet, the love of music.
00;47;36;03 – 00;47;36;27
John Joseph
And all that.
00;47;37;06 – 00;47;50;09
John Joseph
He goes, Rasta Rastaman can’t pay it back. Mind you pay it forward. You you help the next person. He said, Don’t pay it back, pay it forward. So it has.
00;47;50;09 – 00;47;55;13
John Joseph
Really, you know, been, you know, my.
00;47;55;13 – 00;48;00;03
John Joseph
Path in this world is and I do it through literature. And like you say, I try to keep.
00;48;01;04 – 00;48;01;22
John Joseph
A funny.
00;48;01;22 – 00;48;03;12
John Joseph
Aspect and tell stories.
00;48;03;12 – 00;48;04;26
John Joseph
Around making a point because I’m.
00;48;04;26 – 00;48;06;09
John Joseph
A writer, first and foremost.
00;48;06;09 – 00;48;11;20
John Joseph
I studied with the great one, Mr. Robert Mackay wrote story.
00;48;11;29 – 00;48;12;28
John Joseph
So I try to.
00;48;12;28 – 00;48;15;22
John Joseph
Always, you know, in the beginning of.
00;48;15;23 – 00;48;21;22
John Joseph
The book, he says storytelling was an art form. People used to sit around campfires and tell stories thousands of.
00;48;21;22 – 00;48;23;12
John Joseph
Years ago, and the oral.
00;48;23;12 – 00;48;28;03
John Joseph
Tradition, that’s something that’s becoming lost now with these fucking gadgets.
00;48;28;03 – 00;48;28;14
John Joseph
Man.
00;48;28;22 – 00;48;29;20
John Joseph
Everybody’s just.
00;48;29;28 – 00;48;30;03
John Joseph
You.
00;48;30;05 – 00;48;54;06
John Joseph
You look around now, there’s no there’s no social skills no social communication. Everybody’s walking down the street, you know, looking at their fucking phones. And that’s not that that’s not the generation that I come from. We had these amazing things called conversation, and these kids come out of their face all wrong, and you’re like, Yo, what the fuck are you doing?
00;48;54;06 – 00;49;11;06
John Joseph
I You live two blocks from me. I’ll be over there in an hour. Like, No, I’m sorry, but I bet I was like, Well, you know what? Let’s learn how to talk to people, bro. Go out and have conversations because the way you’re coming off is mad, fucking disrespectful place that I come from.
00;49;11;11 – 00;49;12;12
John Joseph
When you do that.
00;49;12;18 – 00;49;14;29
John Joseph
You get hemmed, okay?
00;49;15;02 – 00;49;16;08
John Joseph
So, you know.
00;49;16;08 – 00;49;17;07
John Joseph
Watch your P’s and.
00;49;17;07 – 00;49;17;25
John Joseph
Q’s.
00;49;18;07 – 00;49;37;02
Nathan Crane
But I got I got to tell you a story real quick on that. No, because I we were just talking a few minutes back. I just got back from Mexico. We were visiting my wife’s family and they live down in Veracruz and they are, you know, going to most parts of Mexico that are not, you know, touristy, just a regular part of Mexico.
00;49;37;09 – 00;49;58;23
Nathan Crane
It’s already third world country. Right? Anybody who’s ever been is very poor. You know, you just look at their highways and roads compared to ours. That’s, you know, an eighth of the amount of money probably that goes into them. The buildings are all torn down and beat up people live in shacks and then you drive 5 hours, four and a half hours inland where all the little and shit.
00;49;58;23 – 00;50;21;21
Nathan Crane
Those are the little tiny towns and stuff and everything is like like a fourth world country, you know, it’s, it’s, everything’s just held up by little sticks and little tarps and little tents and and it’s all know built by hand. And everything’s barely held together. You know, the water’s, you know, difficult to get. There’s no electricity in a lot of places.
00;50;21;21 – 00;50;38;29
Nathan Crane
There’s, you know, days we were there out of her parents house. There’s no cell phones which turn the cell phones off. There’s no Internet. There’s no stuff like that. They only turn on their refrigerator because us from America are coming to visit them and we need a refrigerator when they’re there. They don’t ever use the refrigerator. You know, they don’t have washers and dryers.
00;50;38;29 – 00;51;00;08
Nathan Crane
They do everything by hand. And so it’s it’s really another reality. But the nice thing about it, there’s a lot of nice things about it. You know, there’s pros and cons. But to your point is, you know, for three and a half days, we sat and had amazing conversations. You know, we went to her aunt uncle’s house, which is really a little shack like you see it.
00;51;00;08 – 00;51;22;06
Nathan Crane
It’s like a little shack with a with a bed. And, you know, they basically live half way in nature. I mean, windows and doors are open all the time. Animals come and go. It’s like they are living almost like indigenous on the planet. And we sit for hours and hours and just shooting the shit and laughing and telling stories.
00;51;22;06 – 00;51;38;00
Nathan Crane
And here they are, some of the most poor people on earth, you know, barely a few dollars to their name. You know, every day it’s just get the food to eat that you’re going to eat for that day and go about your business and going to the next day. They don’t have nice things. They don’t they don’t have Amazon delivery.
00;51;38;00 – 00;52;08;05
Nathan Crane
They don’t have barely electricity and running water. And here they are laughing and telling stories and conversations and enjoying their life in a way that you just don’t see very often here in the civilized, you know, modern developed countries like the United States anymore. It’s just mind blowing. It’s such a different reality. It’s actually, you know, as there is struggle there and challenge and diseases are on the rise because a lot of the processed food has been imported there.
00;52;08;05 – 00;52;28;11
Nathan Crane
And so people are eating tons and tons of junk food as well. Diseases are on the rise. There’s a lot of suffering and pain and not a lot of access to any good, you know, health care or health education for that matter. You know, the the relationships and the conversations is so refreshing. Nobody’s on their phones. You know, nobody’s watching TV.
00;52;28;11 – 00;52;31;07
Nathan Crane
It’s just like it’s a different reality. And it was.
00;52;31;08 – 00;52;35;03
John Joseph
Happy. And those people are so happy, they’re more happy.
00;52;35;14 – 00;52;39;01
John Joseph
I talk about that, too, in a matter of fact, because I go to Jamaica a.
00;52;39;01 – 00;52;40;18
John Joseph
Lot and I go.
00;52;40;18 – 00;52;44;09
John Joseph
Off the fucking grid like, you know, I’ll stay in a hotel.
00;52;44;09 – 00;52;47;11
John Joseph
In the grill, but I go all up into the mountains and it’s the.
00;52;47;11 – 00;52;50;04
John Joseph
Same shit, like people living in Chanties.
00;52;50;04 – 00;52;51;13
John Joseph
And just.
00;52;51;13 – 00;52;52;15
John Joseph
Happy as fuck.
00;52;52;15 – 00;53;06;25
John Joseph
Man, and, you know, hanging out with those people and having conversations and I mean, that’s to me, I might go and you see, you know, some and then I’ve been all.
00;53;06;25 – 00;53;08;18
John Joseph
Over, I’ve raced all over the world.
00;53;08;18 – 00;53;13;01
John Joseph
Taiwan out in the fucking and been through the yoga.
00;53;13;01 – 00;53;13;12
John Joseph
Stuff.
00;53;13;12 – 00;53;29;04
John Joseph
Too. I went to like, where the hell did I go? Not a in one. A lot. I’ve been all over dude. I can’t even remember.
00;53;29;04 – 00;53;31;17
John Joseph
Half the places, but just staying out in the.
00;53;31;17 – 00;53;39;00
John Joseph
Jungle in the middle of nowhere and in Malaysia, Port Dickson and like.
00;53;39;07 – 00;53;48;00
John Joseph
The people are. So they live their lives so simply. And that’s what I said. He said the key to happiness in life is simple living in high.
00;53;48;00 – 00;53;49;22
John Joseph
Thinking like we’ve.
00;53;49;22 – 00;53;53;10
John Joseph
Become so technologically advanced.
00;53;53;10 – 00;53;53;26
John Joseph
And.
00;53;54;16 – 00;53;58;22
John Joseph
Running on a parallel track with that is all the medication for depression.
00;53;58;27 – 00;53;59;09
John Joseph
Right?
00;53;59;16 – 00;54;09;05
John Joseph
I’m depressed. I’m going to take a pill. I’m going to do this. I’m going to die. I need to go get fucked up. I don’t know. I’m not. If you’re if you’re feeling depressed, the last thing.
00;54;09;05 – 00;54;11;01
John Joseph
You want to do is go get.
00;54;11;01 – 00;54;13;23
John Joseph
High. The last thing you want to do is go fucking take.
00;54;14;05 – 00;54;14;23
John Joseph
Some big.
00;54;14;23 – 00;54;33;24
John Joseph
Pharma medication to try to make yourself feel better. I dated a girl and she had some problems and then they fucking doctor got her on Paxil. And then one thing and another thing is she needed another drug. She became fucking suicidal after like nine months. It was like a completely different person. I was dealing.
00;54;33;24 – 00;54;34;02
John Joseph
With.
00;54;34;13 – 00;54;40;15
John Joseph
Ready to jump out of windows and stab herself. I’m like, This is not the same person. Dennis was a.
00;54;40;15 – 00;54;43;25
John Joseph
Happy, she was a model. She was in fucking.
00;54;45;12 – 00;54;56;01
John Joseph
Hip hop videos and fucking like people would stop in their car and be like, Holy shit, she was Puerto Rican, Panamanian and Irish right off the boat.
00;54;56;01 – 00;55;01;13
John Joseph
Irish like her grandmother and then Panamanian and Puerto Rican.
00;55;01;13 – 00;55;11;10
John Joseph
I mean, she was like one of the most beautiful girls you could ever seen. That what? They just cause, like, the minute that they saw some something.
00;55;11;10 – 00;55;11;27
John Joseph
Of, like.
00;55;12;03 – 00;55;15;26
John Joseph
That was bad, they just threw fucking gasoline.
00;55;15;26 – 00;55;17;17
John Joseph
On it with these medications.
00;55;17;17 – 00;55;28;19
John Joseph
And that’s why I said, man, simple living, high thinking, man. That’s why I came down here. Like all the crazy shit that went on in New York. I’m like, I’m all around organic farms.
00;55;28;19 – 00;55;31;16
John Joseph
Where we’re planning on getting all.
00;55;31;16 – 00;55;36;17
John Joseph
This organic farming going. I lived near the Harikrishna Temple over here in Alachua.
00;55;37;17 – 00;55;38;01
John Joseph
You know.
00;55;38;07 – 00;55;41;18
John Joseph
Of course, the mama looks all like, Oh, yeah, he’s going down to Trump.
00;55;41;18 – 00;55;44;01
John Joseph
Country. I’m like, I.
00;55;44;01 – 00;55;49;14
John Joseph
Never voted in my fucking life. I never supported a single politician. I live in a spiritual.
00;55;49;20 – 00;55;53;23
John Joseph
Community down here, okay? Like I’m out on.
00;55;53;23 – 00;55;56;10
John Joseph
The fucking roads in January, cycling.
00;55;56;10 – 00;55;58;07
John Joseph
In 70 degrees with a fucking.
00;55;58;14 – 00;55;59;17
John Joseph
Short sleeved shirt.
00;55;59;17 – 00;56;00;25
John Joseph
Where we’re doing.
00;56;00;25 – 00;56;08;12
John Joseph
All this amazing stuff. I got a three bedroom house with a garage in back yard and the whole shit. Everybody’s so nice.
00;56;08;21 – 00;56;09;23
John Joseph
Down here and it’s.
00;56;09;23 – 00;56;11;05
John Joseph
All kinds of people.
00;56;11;21 – 00;56;16;27
Nathan Crane
It’s like four people don’t know. You’re talking about Florida. And I, you know, I moved to Florida.
00;56;17;08 – 00;56;20;12
John Joseph
Hi, I’m in High Springs, which is 20 miles north.
00;56;20;12 – 00;56;22;05
John Joseph
Of Gainesville.
00;56;22;05 – 00;56;29;18
John Joseph
In a restaurant here called Fucking. Oh, what the fuck is this farm to table?
00;56;29;18 – 00;56;32;16
John Joseph
It’s. I forget the name of it.
00;56;33;07 – 00;56;37;27
John Joseph
And then it’s all organic farms where they don’t allow people to use pesticides over here.
00;56;38;04 – 00;56;59;00
Nathan Crane
Well, I’ll put it up this way. The, we were in New Mexico during the height of the pandemic, and in our minds, we had two options. If we wanted to get out of there and have freedom in our lives, health, freedom. And it was Florida or Texas, and we chose Florida. You know, we chose Florida and I the only regret I have is that we didn’t move here sooner.
00;56;59;00 – 00;56;59;16
Nathan Crane
That’s it.
00;56;59;28 – 00;57;01;12
John Joseph
I guess in Florida now.
00;57;01;17 – 00;57;04;09
Nathan Crane
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We moved to Jacksonville about two, two years ago.
00;57;04;09 – 00;57;26;26
John Joseph
Yeah. Oh, that’s awesome, man. Yeah, because I’m like, go on. You know, they were going to take my girls job and all this shit. It was like I might go had in New York go from like the most amazing city to fucking tyranny, right? I’m like, Yo, it blew my fucking mind. And it blew my mind that the people I thought would have stood up to the bullshit all got on their fucking knees.
00;57;26;26 – 00;57;29;22
John Joseph
And that was a lot of people in the alternative health.
00;57;29;22 – 00;57;30;23
John Joseph
Community as well.
00;57;31;03 – 00;57;54;07
John Joseph
I’m not going to mention any names, but started throwing me the bus because I was questioning the shit. And if you’re not allowed to question the narrative, that’s not science, okay? That’s propaganda. And that’s the way I looked at it. I was like, You know what? I’m not going to fight these motherfuckers because they got a whole army of whatever the fuck behind them.
00;57;54;07 – 00;57;58;12
John Joseph
I’m just going to extricate myself from this situation. And it was the best thing.
00;57;58;21 – 00;58;02;03
John Joseph
Like I said, I’m up in New York all the time. I’m heading.
00;58;02;03 – 00;58;03;14
John Joseph
Up there Thursday for like.
00;58;03;15 – 00;58;05;16
John Joseph
Two or three weeks, but I.
00;58;05;16 – 00;58;06;18
John Joseph
Just don’t have to live.
00;58;06;18 – 00;58;09;27
John Joseph
There anymore. And that’s a shame.
00;58;10;03 – 00;58;26;01
John Joseph
In some regards, but it’s not even the same city that it used to be as far as I’m concerned. But like I said, I don’t want anybody telling me what I got to do. As far as like you know, what medicines I have to take or.
00;58;26;10 – 00;58;27;22
John Joseph
You know, any of this shit.
00;58;27;24 – 00;58;38;27
Nathan Crane
Like, well, it’s the same is the same thing with food, right? So like I, I think our philosophy on the, the plant based, I don’t like, say vegan either just because it, you know, there’s.
00;58;39;09 – 00;58;39;10
John Joseph
A.
00;58;39;11 – 00;58;59;02
Nathan Crane
Connotation situation. But whatever the vegan diet there’s I think I think our philosophy is aligned in a lot of ways where it’s like, look, I discovered this for my own health and well-being. It’s changed my life, my family’s life. I then have done the research on it. And I mean, I’ve done thousands of hours, literally thousands of hours of research on it.
00;58;59;02 – 00;59;27;13
Nathan Crane
Read Thousands of peer reviewed papers have interviewed over 400 doctors, have worked with, you know, thousands of thousands of clients, cancer patients, etc.. It’s been amazing results. So like I fully believe it, live it and and know for myself that this is the lifestyle that creates health and longevity and vitality. And I’ll share it with anybody who listens, but unlike how I was in the first few years, which was like a zealot, right?
00;59;27;14 – 00;59;44;05
Nathan Crane
Like a gung ho zealot, got to convert everybody like a religious zealot. You know, I eventually changed and was like, Look, I’ll share it with anyone who wants to listen. But other than that, like, I don’t force it on anybody. I don’t care if anybody actually changes their diet or not in the sense that, like, I don’t have attachment to it.
00;59;44;12 – 01;00;00;25
Nathan Crane
I don’t push it down anybody’s throat. I don’t tell you you have to be this way or else you’re a bad person. Like, I don’t believe in any of that, you know, and that’s what a lot of the vegan movement is today that I see. It’s about shaming people and making you feel guilty and about saying you’re a bad person for killing animals and stuff.
01;00;00;25 – 01;00;07;08
Nathan Crane
It’s like, I don’t think that is the way to actually help encourage and inspire people.
01;00;07;08 – 01;00;11;23
John Joseph
To do you know what the best way and you know what, my teacher, I got to bring him back to.
01;00;11;23 – 01;00;12;12
John Joseph
Provide.
01;00;12;12 – 01;00;15;15
John Joseph
And one more time that’s probably on and.
01;00;15;15 – 01;00;29;06
John Joseph
What they probably would say examples better than precept you could say anything you want to people they don’t give a shit they look at our what is the example that you’re setting.
01;00;29;22 – 01;00;31;11
John Joseph
Right? And you’re you’re.
01;00;31;11 – 01;00;33;00
John Joseph
A great example of somebody.
01;00;33;00 – 01;00;47;07
John Joseph
Doing the plant based diet, right? I think I’m a pretty good example as well at my age, you know, I’m in my sixth decade of fucking living after all the all the damage that I’ve done to myself, and I’m still out there killing it and I’m.
01;00;47;07 – 01;00;51;07
John Joseph
Like, That’s what people are looking at. They’re like, Damn, dude, like.
01;00;51;20 – 01;00;52;09
John Joseph
You know?
01;00;52;09 – 01;01;03;04
John Joseph
And I think rather than being a mouthpiece and that’s trying to vegans God shit all the time. I would hear dudes in the and be like, Yo, if that motherfucker’s vegan, I.
01;01;03;04 – 01;01;04;20
John Joseph
Never want to do that guy.
01;01;05;10 – 01;01;12;17
John Joseph
I could say, Oh, fuck eating process shit and not exercising. I think thank God, you know.
01;01;13;00 – 01;01;22;03
John Joseph
You know James Wilks movie, you know what the fuck was that called again? Mm.
01;01;23;01 – 01;01;24;15
Nathan Crane
I have to look it up. I don’t remember.
01;01;25;01 – 01;01;30;06
John Joseph
Yeah. You know, James Lightning. Well, she did the media, the documentary about all the athletes that were.
01;01;30;06 – 01;01;31;14
John Joseph
Going plant based.
01;01;32;12 – 01;01;34;13
Nathan Crane
Oh, yeah, yeah. Game changers.
01;01;34;13 – 01;01;35;12
John Joseph
Yeah, right. The game.
01;01;35;28 – 01;01;37;22
John Joseph
Which they filmed.
01;01;37;22 – 01;01;44;10
John Joseph
Me and believe it or not, they filled me for 13 hours and I ended up getting scratched because of.
01;01;44;10 – 01;01;51;28
John Joseph
The title of that book, Meat is a Pussy. And you know who came after me the most over that title was the Vegans.
01;01;51;28 – 01;01;52;15
Nathan Crane
Vegans.
01;01;53;02 – 01;02;00;04
John Joseph
Vegans were like, Oh, it’s, it’s what do you call what they call me fucking.
01;02;00;28 – 01;02;09;09
Nathan Crane
Oh, it’s with, with all the, um, the, the, uh, spacing. Oh, go ahead.
01;02;10;03 – 01;02;14;08
John Joseph
Yeah, they are. Oh, yeah. They call me a messiah.
01;02;14;20 – 01;02;14;29
John Joseph
Yeah.
01;02;15;12 – 01;02;30;28
John Joseph
I was like, Yo, that book is Help More Fucking People Than You Ever Will. And I reach truck drivers, ex-Special Forces, motherfuckers and MMA fighters, read it and be like, Yo, I started implementing slowly some of the shit in the book. It’s helped me.
01;02;30;28 – 01;02;31;25
John Joseph
Tremendously.
01;02;32;12 – 01;02;34;01
John Joseph
And it’s like that was.
01;02;34;09 – 01;02;34;26
John Joseph
You know, I.
01;02;34;26 – 01;02;57;15
John Joseph
Had a campaign with Lululemon fucking a men’s a men’s athletic line that wasn’t like tights and shit with all these. And they wrote to them and we’re like, This guy’s a sexist and all this nonsense, and we’re going to have your brand boycotted. Like they came at me, like, Yeah, I’m out here trying to help people and helping people and what are you doing?
01;02;57;15 – 01;03;00;17
John Joseph
You’re sitting online trying to destroy people.
01;03;01;00 – 01;03;02;14
John Joseph
Right? That’s what I’m saying.
01;03;02;15 – 01;03;05;05
John Joseph
Up all you guys that just took this.
01;03;05;05 – 01;03;08;25
John Joseph
Shit, you know what’s.
01;03;08;25 – 01;03;09;23
John Joseph
Up with that.
01;03;10;12 – 01;03;13;12
Nathan Crane
Right? And that’s what I was told.
01;03;13;13 – 01;03;17;29
John Joseph
Every animal in the test trials and contain the cells of dead.
01;03;17;29 – 01;03;20;16
John Joseph
Animals like.
01;03;21;14 – 01;03;40;05
Nathan Crane
Right you know the term I was thinking of I spaced out on a minute ago was cancel culture. It’s this word guys woke cancel culture man and it’s I read the book and like it made me laugh. I mean, you know, misogynistic. You’re obviously not misogynistic. You know, it’s like it’s a term that anybody who, you know, meat is for pussies.
01;03;40;05 – 01;03;57;07
Nathan Crane
It’s like, look, we we all grow up, grew up many of us as younger men. And it was, you know, if you were a younger man around other younger men, it’s like if you did anything weak or whatever, you call them a pussy. And it wasn’t a it wasn’t a term against women. Like we weren’t calling. It was just it was just it’s.
01;03;57;07 – 01;04;02;22
John Joseph
Just a, you know, a major thing where that came from. There’s a word plus the salon. What’s alarming.
01;04;02;22 – 01;04;03;01
John Joseph
Is.
01;04;03;25 – 01;04;08;14
John Joseph
It means a weak coward. And that’s where it came from. It wasn’t talking.
01;04;08;14 – 01;04;09;11
John Joseph
About a woman.
01;04;10;02 – 01;04;22;19
John Joseph
As well. Puts alarming, it puts alarmist. Let me see what it is in a second. And that’s where that shit came from originally. They don’t even know the history of the words that they fucking use.
01;04;22;23 – 01;04;29;02
Nathan Crane
I never I never knew that history. I have to look it up. Puts puts a ominous plus puzzle in the midst of.
01;04;30;18 – 01;04;33;18
John Joseph
Showing a lack of courage, intimidation, lack.
01;04;33;18 – 01;04;35;21
John Joseph
Of courage, or the determination.
01;04;35;29 – 01;04;36;20
John Joseph
Timid.
01;04;37;12 – 01;04;40;22
John Joseph
That’s where the word came from. But they don’t want to hear.
01;04;40;22 – 01;04;44;29
John Joseph
They’re interested. They have their blinders on.
01;04;44;29 – 01;04;48;10
John Joseph
And anybody they want to go on the attack. And I’ve seen.
01;04;48;10 – 01;04;51;05
John Joseph
It happen even during the last three years.
01;04;51;12 – 01;04;54;19
John Joseph
Anybody that had a difference of opinion in cancel culture.
01;04;54;19 – 01;04;55;19
John Joseph
That motherfucker.
01;04;56;13 – 01;05;00;23
John Joseph
Puts a lot of mis comes from. That’s where pussy comes from.
01;05;00;27 – 01;05;13;15
Nathan Crane
The pussy list pussy puts the list is me from Latin means very small and animus means mind. So pussy animus is like basically a small mind, but showing a.
01;05;13;15 – 01;05;21;03
John Joseph
Lack of rage. Pusillanimous. Yeah, pusillanimous, pusillanimous.
01;05;21;19 – 01;05;35;20
John Joseph
That’s where the word comes from. So like, and I, I presented that. I mean, the crazy shit was when they first got, I put that book out by myself. Just so I’m going to give you a little backstory.
01;05;35;20 – 01;05;36;07
John Joseph
On that book.
01;05;36;15 – 01;05;42;06
John Joseph
We put that out by ourselves. We did like 5000 copies. And then my friend who designed it, Todd.
01;05;42;06 – 01;05;43;13
John Joseph
Erwin, he’s a.
01;05;43;23 – 01;05;50;03
John Joseph
Famous drummer in New York. His brother played in keyboards for Aerosmith, but he does design work.
01;05;50;03 – 01;05;51;26
John Joseph
He won a he won a wanted.
01;05;51;26 – 01;06;11;12
John Joseph
Design award at the New York Book Expo for Best Design for a nonfiction piece of work. He was out at the Hamptons hanging out, and he meets this guy and he’s like, Yeah, give them the fucking book. And he’s like, Holy shit, this is fucking.
01;06;11;12 – 01;06;12;04
John Joseph
Genius.
01;06;12;16 – 01;06;21;15
John Joseph
And it was at the same time that So Kitchen was also shopping their shit around, right? So I went.
01;06;21;15 – 01;06;21;21
John Joseph
In.
01;06;22;21 – 01;06;24;17
John Joseph
We had, we had a bunch of offers.
01;06;24;17 – 01;06;26;29
John Joseph
And I went in to.
01;06;28;14 – 01;06;29;22
John Joseph
HarperCollins Wave.
01;06;29;24 – 01;06;33;03
John Joseph
And Karen Rinaldi was like, You’re going to be the next.
01;06;33;03 – 01;06;38;17
John Joseph
Fucking Anthony Bourdain and all this shit. I was like, Yo, you sure.
01;06;38;17 – 01;06;41;11
John Joseph
You don’t want me to tone down.
01;06;41;11 – 01;06;47;28
John Joseph
The title a little bit? I don’t know. We wanted exactly how it is. This is you.
01;06;48;02 – 01;06;49;15
John Joseph
You know, you’re authentic.
01;06;49;15 – 01;06;51;09
John Joseph
This is how you fucking are.
01;06;51;09 – 01;06;51;20
John Joseph
You know.
01;06;51;20 – 01;07;09;23
John Joseph
You’re the consummate New Yorker plant based. All this shit don’t change it thing. Well, the book comes out, they start getting all these fucking letters, and then she comes to me and says, I need you to write a letter of apology. I said, There’s no fucking way.
01;07;09;23 – 01;07;12;01
John Joseph
On God’s green earth that I’m doing that.
01;07;12;11 – 01;07;17;11
John Joseph
I’m not apologizing for shit, because once you start apologizing, right.
01;07;17;14 – 01;07;17;19
John Joseph
It’s.
01;07;17;21 – 01;07;20;19
John Joseph
Shit that’s not wrong. They’re never going to stop.
01;07;20;29 – 01;07;21;19
John Joseph
They’re going to want you.
01;07;21;23 – 01;07;25;08
John Joseph
Apologize for everything I said. No, you told.
01;07;25;08 – 01;07;25;20
John Joseph
Me.
01;07;25;24 – 01;07;28;06
John Joseph
You were cool with it. You supported.
01;07;28;06 – 01;07;28;12
John Joseph
It.
01;07;28;22 – 01;07;35;27
John Joseph
You didn’t want me to change it. I’m not. So then they just basically didn’t even promote the book at all and let it just fucking.
01;07;36;23 – 01;07;38;06
John Joseph
You know, they, they.
01;07;38;10 – 01;07;42;25
John Joseph
They fucking didn’t they didn’t even support the book run and nothing.
01;07;43;03 – 01;07;45;27
John Joseph
Nothing she’s and now.
01;07;45;27 – 01;07;47;08
John Joseph
They just keep some copies.
01;07;47;08 – 01;07;50;22
John Joseph
On Amazon for anybody that wants it.
01;07;50;22 – 01;08;15;03
Nathan Crane
But I mean if you look at who if you look at who thrives in our modern culture, who are standing up for what they believe in, who are speaking truth to power, or who are standing up for freedom of speech. It is the ones who don’t give in to the cancel culture. It is the ones who keep going and saying and speaking the truth.
01;08;15;03 – 01;08;19;03
Nathan Crane
It’s the ones who, you know, you mentioned Joe Rogan. I mean, they tried canceling him hard.
01;08;19;03 – 01;08;28;07
John Joseph
You know why? You know why the shit started against King? Because he fucking he had Peter McCullough on.
01;08;28;07 – 01;08;35;09
Nathan Crane
I know I was the that him and him and Robert Malone which I’ve been following them for the previous year and a half leader.
01;08;35;09 – 01;08;49;08
John Joseph
Let me explain how that went down, because I’m the one that turned him on to Peter McCullough. I sent them the first video. Peter McCullough because Joe Klein, who was one of the plant based doctors who fucking stood up to the bullshit.
01;08;49;08 – 01;08;52;06
Nathan Crane
Yeah, he’s a good friend of mine. He. He actually connected us.
01;08;52;17 – 01;09;05;00
John Joseph
Dr. John Well, yeah, he wrote the foreword to my book on Fuck Your Health and, and he sent me in 2020. He goes, yo, I, this is my story. Peter McCullough look at the video.
01;09;05;08 – 01;09;06;07
John Joseph
It was funny. It was.
01;09;06;15 – 01;09;28;19
John Joseph
It was in front of the Texas Senate that they stopped him from giving out the therapeutics. And I go, What The fuck you. And then Dr. Conn explained it to me, You can’t get the emergency authorization like all the all the shit if there’s a treatment I sent the video to Joe. He’s like, What the fuck? He had never heard of Ivermectin or any of that shit.
01;09;28;28 – 01;09;46;11
John Joseph
But then Joe had reached out, I guess, to his people. They got McCullough, then they got Malone. And that’s when all the hate started coming there, right? Like, Oh yeah, they dig up a shit where he said the N-word somewhere with all black dudes that were all comedians.
01;09;46;11 – 01;09;47;17
John Joseph
And laughing and like.
01;09;47;25 – 01;09;59;19
John Joseph
Oh, when he did this and he did that and all these fucking so-called rebels. Neil Young If this shit doesn’t come off Spotify, I’m removing my, my fucking shit a make a girl song.
01;09;59;19 – 01;10;00;04
John Joseph
Like no.
01;10;00;08 – 01;10;05;04
Nathan Crane
I love, I love this spot. I love it. Spotify stood behind him. Obviously, he was bringing.
01;10;05;04 – 01;10;05;29
John Joseph
It it was.
01;10;05;29 – 01;10;09;14
Nathan Crane
Bringing too much money to Spotify for them to dump him. But they did.
01;10;09;16 – 01;10;10;17
John Joseph
It with somebody like.
01;10;11;00 – 01;10;17;08
Nathan Crane
They told all those musicians, look, he’s more important, you know, it’s like he’s more important than you. Go ahead and take your shit off. We don’t care.
01;10;17;16 – 01;10;20;04
John Joseph
Yeah, but even when Joe was facing.
01;10;20;04 – 01;10;20;24
John Joseph
Losing.
01;10;21;05 – 01;10;40;11
John Joseph
Like these guys in these punk rock bands won’t want to even say nothing because they don’t want to sell a few shitty t shirts and get paid ten grand to play a fucking festival somewhere. Joe risked 100 plus million dollar fucking platform to speak the truth, right? The vegans are fucking trying to cancel him.
01;10;40;11 – 01;10;40;23
John Joseph
And.
01;10;41;00 – 01;10;47;28
John Joseph
The vegans even the big issue do podcasts, the biggest ones shut the fuck up or sided with the bullshit.
01;10;48;13 – 01;10;48;28
John Joseph
And only.
01;10;48;28 – 01;10;51;27
John Joseph
Presented one narrative. I don’t have any respect for.
01;10;51;27 – 01;10;53;21
John Joseph
Any of them at this point.
01;10;54;07 – 01;10;56;23
John Joseph
Like showed your true colors even in.
01;10;56;24 – 01;10;58;29
Nathan Crane
My, my, my. All right.
01;10;58;29 – 01;11;24;07
John Joseph
Let me finish my statement writing. It says that true character is only revealed under pressure. The greater the pressure, the greater the revelation a true character. Well, if 20 on wasn’t a revelation of motherfucking characters, I don’t know what the fuck is. And the ones who you never thought would stand up stood up, and the ones who you thought would stand up got on their fucking knees.
01;11;24;11 – 01;11;57;02
John Joseph
And even worse, the guys like fucking Garth Davis and rest of them tried to destroy even Joe Klein and everybody who said, Hey, man, let’s like, hear from the other side. Let’s hear all narratives. Let’s not be didactic. Let’s hear what the other side has to say. That’s that’s real science. If you want to talk science, right? So like I said, it’s not what the motherfucker says, it’s what they.
01;11;57;02 – 01;12;01;03
John Joseph
Do 100%. But I was on.
01;12;01;03 – 01;12;01;21
Nathan Crane
No, no, no.
01;12;02;13 – 01;12;03;17
John Joseph
I didn’t want to forget it.
01;12;05;03 – 01;12;25;29
Nathan Crane
As powerful words, dude. And I love that you stand behind your truth and you speak your truth and it’s, you know, it’s that that’s what we need more of. I mean, that’s why I want you on the podcast because it’s like, I don’t I don’t care about anybody who wants to write in, you know, bad comments about whatever we’re talking about or if we were going to complain about the title, about any of that.
01;12;25;29 – 01;12;47;10
Nathan Crane
Like, I could care less about any of it. Mean, I know that I had my, I had my business partners and closest friends and advisors asking me every month for two and a half years to tone down what I was what I was putting out during COVID because because I was putting out so much, it was affecting our business negatively.
01;12;47;10 – 01;13;14;11
Nathan Crane
They’re shutting down my accounts. They shut down multiple Instagram accounts. They were, you know, disabled me from uploading on YouTube for eight months. You know, my Facebook was, you know, shut down multiple times. It was like everything shadow banned. And and it’s like that when that shit happen, all it did was motivate me more lit a fire under my ass to even speak out more and do more and interview more people and review more songs and.
01;13;14;12 – 01;13;15;06
John Joseph
Put it out there.
01;13;15;13 – 01;13;20;13
John Joseph
Now that says that that that gives all the weight to the past that you came.
01;13;20;13 – 01;13;23;16
John Joseph
From and that I came from. And, you know, we don’t.
01;13;23;16 – 01;13;35;05
John Joseph
Give a fuck, did we? You know, like I said, you to cancel me. I had motherfuckers try to cancel it. Oh, you deleted my Instagram account with 150,000 motherfuckers on it.
01;13;35;22 – 01;13;36;11
John Joseph
You know.
01;13;36;11 – 01;13;40;12
John Joseph
Like you all, you’re canceling my band. You’re trying.
01;13;40;12 – 01;13;41;13
John Joseph
Anyway, we.
01;13;41;13 – 01;13;43;15
John Joseph
Put the record out. Last year was fucking.
01;13;43;15 – 01;13;44;25
John Joseph
Number one in the.
01;13;44;25 – 01;13;46;02
John Joseph
Hardcore distributors.
01;13;46;10 – 01;13;48;26
John Joseph
With all these fucking clowns writing.
01;13;48;26 – 01;13;50;20
John Joseph
Them. This guy’s a Nazi.
01;13;50;20 – 01;13;52;24
John Joseph
These are parents. Just he’s a racist.
01;13;53;06 – 01;14;04;28
John Joseph
Don’t care. Is not good. We’ll never support you again snake motherfuckers. Like I said, I had people in real life try to cancel me. I got fucking shot at, shot.
01;14;04;28 – 01;14;06;06
John Joseph
Stabbed.
01;14;06;06 – 01;14;30;20
John Joseph
Beat with a fucking baseball bat. There ain’t nothing you can do to me that’s going to fucking get me to not be the authentic that I did that I am as a result of the past that I came out of. None of them would have survived a fucking month in my shoes back on the streets in New York in the fucking mid seventies.
01;14;31;06 – 01;14;40;04
John Joseph
Like so that says to your authentic, Hey, you stood up and you fucking kept doing your.
01;14;40;04 – 01;14;41;11
John Joseph
Thing and you know what?
01;14;42;06 – 01;14;45;22
John Joseph
You were right. And many of the people that the.
01;14;45;22 – 01;14;46;11
John Joseph
Narrative.
01;14;46;20 – 01;15;05;13
John Joseph
We were right, everything that we said is now coming to fruition. The fucking shit is being revealed of the shit that they pulled. Anybody that calls you a conspiracy theorist at this point is fucking lacking critical thinking skills.
01;15;05;28 – 01;15;08;20
John Joseph
I mean, it is grand.
01;15;08;24 – 01;15;16;12
John Joseph
Words. I have no words for them because you know, the CIA was the first ones to ever coined that phrase.
01;15;16;19 – 01;15;16;26
John Joseph
And.
01;15;16;26 – 01;15;40;13
John Joseph
They use that against anybody. That question the narrative on the assassination of John F Kennedy, that was the first time that that was used. And they just keep using it. What if George Bush Junior saying that the day after 911, the fucking pile is still smoldering and on fire? Do you know what he said on September 12th, 2001, on TV?
01;15;41;22 – 01;16;00;14
John Joseph
Don’t believe these wild conspiracy theories. Why would you even fucking say something like that? And it was the same thing with this event. 201 Control the narrative. We have to go after anybody challenging what we’re saying. In 2019, the Rockefeller.
01;16;00;14 – 01;16;02;04
John Joseph
Foundation, Bill and Melinda Gates.
01;16;02;04 – 01;16;04;18
John Joseph
The whole WEF, they met in a hotel, New.
01;16;04;18 – 01;16;04;29
John Joseph
York.
01;16;05;24 – 01;16;12;21
John Joseph
A simulation of a pandemic. And what was the first thing they said? Destroy anybody on social media.
01;16;13;01 – 01;16;17;14
John Joseph
Or anywhere challenging the narrative that we’re putting forward of.
01;16;17;14 – 01;16;20;26
John Joseph
The W.H.O.. We are the experts, all this bullshit.
01;16;21;10 – 01;16;22;28
John Joseph
Listen, I don’t want.
01;16;22;28 – 01;16;24;28
John Joseph
To get too far off on this, because then.
01;16;24;28 – 01;16;29;20
John Joseph
They might end up censoring or whatever. But you know what the deal is, man? And it’s like, always.
01;16;29;20 – 01;16;38;02
John Joseph
Be your fucking self. That’s what it comes down to. That’s what punk rock showed me. I don’t I was punk rock when nobody was punk rock.
01;16;38;25 – 01;16;39;05
John Joseph
In.
01;16;39;22 – 01;16;42;27
John Joseph
Fucking. There was 20 people coming to shows in.
01;16;42;27 – 01;16;43;23
John Joseph
New York City.
01;16;44;25 – 01;16;46;00
John Joseph
Hardcore shows.
01;16;46;14 – 01;16;48;21
John Joseph
Or whatever. You know.
01;16;48;21 – 01;17;09;24
John Joseph
I was always an outsider my entire life. I was the weirdo foster kid dressed in fucking shit that we had to climb in a fucking Salvation Army po box. I’m wearing another motherfuckers clothes that this family threw away where I was always that guy. That’s what I when I learned how to fight I. Yeah. And the bullies stepped up.
01;17;09;24 – 01;17;20;21
John Joseph
They got punched in the fucking mouth. That’s the way you bullies. And this was the proverbial punch in the mouth on these people, because I never back down from them once.
01;17;21;13 – 01;17;22;21
John Joseph
You know.
01;17;22;21 – 01;17;31;11
John Joseph
I’ve got shit for being punk rock in 1980. And then when I got into Harikrishna, Oh yeah, all this. And I got into not eating.
01;17;31;11 – 01;17;32;24
John Joseph
Meat in 81.
01;17;32;28 – 01;17;42;11
John Joseph
Everybody talks shit. I didn’t care. This is my path. I’m going to live my my path and same.
01;17;42;11 – 01;17;42;15
John Joseph
You.
01;17;42;15 – 01;17;55;22
John Joseph
Know, although over the years of doing all this other stuff and I’m just like, yo, be your authentic self you can’t be some everybody else’s take and be yourself. Yeah that’s that’s that’s what I, that’s what I tell everybody.
01;17;56;00 – 01;17;56;12
John Joseph
And.
01;17;56;24 – 01;18;23;14
John Joseph
Never be afraid to speak the truth. They made it so that if you have a question or you want to say something that’s different from the mainstream narrative, they want to fucking silence you. Fuck that did it this time. Right now is what all the punk rockers stood up against and put records out about. About the fascism and the One World Government, the New order and the corporations and all this shit.
01;18;23;23 – 01;18;26;24
John Joseph
And this is exactly what we’ve seen happening.
01;18;26;24 – 01;18;28;06
John Joseph
Right now with.
01;18;28;06 – 01;18;45;18
John Joseph
All these wars and all this other shit and. None of them want to say anything. I’m not picking sides. I don’t give a fuck either way of who’s involved in a war. There’s people that are making money off of dropping bombs on innocent motherfuckers.
01;18;45;18 – 01;18;47;16
John Joseph
And they need war that the.
01;18;47;16 – 01;19;13;08
John Joseph
Medical industry needs sickness because they want to sell medicine. The military industrial complex wants to sell bombs. That’s what they do. So and they’re going to get to do that however they need to do that, whatever lies they need to tell. Oh, yeah, Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. We go in there and kill 1.2 innocent people and demolish the fucking place.
01;19;14;05 – 01;19;34;04
John Joseph
And are they better off? We promised to rebuild and everything. We fucking stole what we had to do. And then we fucking did what we had to. If you saw Iraq for sale, the documentary we made, all of it. The military industrial complex made trillions of dollars of us taxpayers, and then they cut and run. Same thing in Afghanistan.
01;19;34;18 – 01;19;49;21
John Joseph
Is it now like we don’t even know where this money’s going in Ukraine? Haven’t accounted for any of it. Where the fuck is it now? What? Now it’s another war we’re paying for. And people are going hungry on the streets of the United States, right?
01;19;50;06 – 01;19;55;05
John Joseph
It’s crazy, man. It’s crazy. And you know what?
01;19;55;05 – 01;19;57;21
John Joseph
I put out a record called Up in Arms on Metal.
01;19;57;21 – 01;20;00;23
John Joseph
Blade, Blood Clot, and that’s you read.
01;20;00;23 – 01;20;03;24
John Joseph
The lyrics on their fucking album and it’s exactly what.
01;20;04;24 – 01;20;05;11
John Joseph
You know.
01;20;05;11 – 01;20;31;15
John Joseph
And I wrote a song, Soldiers of the New Babylon. This is the New Babylon. What we’re seeing happen worldwide right now, these governments all trying to be cohesive the Rockefeller paper that they put out on global lockstep in 2010. All the all the fucking countries coming together in lockstep. We’re seeing it happen in real time and nobody’s saying anything.
01;20;33;03 – 01;21;11;16
Nathan Crane
You know what I think is interesting is and inspiring is like I feel like there’s this movement happening. Certainly, you know, you’re a leader in it of like this this spiritual warrior movement. You know, I feel that in myself, right? It’s a spiritual warrior movement. And, you know, a plant based lifestyle fits into that because of the it’s number one, it’s like seeking higher consciousness, seeking personal freedom, seeking health freedom, but not bowing down, not giving in, you know, standing up for our rights.
01;21;11;16 – 01;21;32;28
Nathan Crane
I mean, look at look what happened with politics in the US, right? It was the liberals, it was the Democrats in the sixties and seventies that were standing up against power, against corporate, against pharmaceutical over, I guess, all the shit that now they support, now they, now they support it. Back then they were completely against it. Right. And it was peace.
01;21;32;28 – 01;21;43;09
Nathan Crane
It’s like, look, we need to lead by example. We need peaceful resistance, right? It’s Martin Luther King. It’s it’s it’s it’s God.
01;21;43;24 – 01;21;46;09
John Joseph
I don’t even think that’s going to be the solution either.
01;21;46;11 – 01;21;48;03
John Joseph
And I’ll tell you why, because.
01;21;48;11 – 01;21;52;12
John Joseph
They see that type of mentality as a weakness. They are bullies.
01;21;52;21 – 01;21;52;26
John Joseph
If.
01;21;52;29 – 01;21;56;25
John Joseph
If you show weakness to these people, they’re going to step all the fuck all.
01;21;56;25 – 01;21;57;28
John Joseph
Over you. And. Yeah, but if.
01;21;57;28 – 01;22;00;20
Nathan Crane
You if you fight them, they got way more weapons.
01;22;00;22 – 01;22;06;16
John Joseph
To fight them on. And that’s what prop I said. The way to fight them is they’re trying to make the robot always.
01;22;06;16 – 01;22;10;23
John Joseph
Use the analogy about how they’re trying to make the prison a nice place.
01;22;11;05 – 01;22;29;26
John Joseph
Our goal is to get out of the prison. But I will give you a perfect example right here. This is the cover of the Bhagavad Gita, and you got Krishna and Arjuna, who was a warrior. Why was the Bhagavad Geeta spoken on a battlefield in Kurukshetra 5000 years ago? Why didn’t they have that conversation in an ashram somewhere?
01;22;30;09 – 01;22;32;12
John Joseph
Because time encircle.
01;22;32;12 – 01;22;33;16
John Joseph
Stance and.
01;22;33;16 – 01;22;55;15
John Joseph
Arjuna did not want to fight. He’s a Churchill, which means a warrior. But his family members. It was the it was the Yadu and the Pandit was in the Yadu dynasty was doing some very demonic things. You can’t let that’s why you need country as in society you need police. You need military. It’s part of the Ven Ashram, Dharma.
01;22;56;00 – 01;23;18;04
John Joseph
It’s the four orders of social and spiritual life which are found naturally. You’re always going to have your warriors and your protectors. We can’t let scumbags coming in and rape people and murder people and do this shit. We have to fucking stand up for that. And that’s why the Bhagavad Gita is spoken on a battlefield of a warrior facing death who had to actually fight against his own relatives.
01;23;18;11 – 01;23;19;16
John Joseph
But they had become the.
01;23;19;16 – 01;23;20;12
John Joseph
Maniac.
01;23;21;16 – 01;23;29;10
John Joseph
And Krishna said, You’re a warrior. That’s your. And then he had to break down the entire yoga system to Arjuna.
01;23;29;10 – 01;23;29;14
John Joseph
And.
01;23;29;14 – 01;23;53;12
John Joseph
Explained the whole thing about Hum. Reminds me, you’re not the body. All the the eight mystic yoga systems were explained, everything was broken down. But it came down to one thing you don’t get on your knees for tyrants. So I noticed that my whole life I grew up on the mean streets in New York. I was in fucking prison for fucking two years.
01;23;53;20 – 01;23;57;03
John Joseph
If you show weakness, they do not back off.
01;23;58;05 – 01;24;00;09
John Joseph
But it’s when.
01;24;00;09 – 01;24;24;02
John Joseph
You’re fighting for the right cause. It’s just like in the Krishna movement, there’s all this cult shit that went on, right? Raping fucking children, stealing millions of murdering people. Look what’s on Peacock now about one of a character in Ananda. They did all this evil shit. And anybody that spoke out against them, they killed one guy, they beat everybody else up.
01;24;24;11 – 01;24;31;00
John Joseph
And I stood up with my friends and said, You go out and give those magazines and expose people going to be right here.
01;24;31;00 – 01;24;32;07
John Joseph
And when they rolled up.
01;24;32;21 – 01;24;41;21
John Joseph
Guess what happened? The bullies became cowards. So we have to stand up and fight for the right cause. And that’s why.
01;24;41;29 – 01;24;43;00
John Joseph
I don’t believe.
01;24;43;11 – 01;24;46;10
John Joseph
You know, listen, I protect me on my own.
01;24;46;10 – 01;24;47;07
John Joseph
I live I live.
01;24;47;07 – 01;24;54;23
John Joseph
In a state where, you know, you’re allowed have, you know, guns in your home. And if a whole crew runs up to your house.
01;24;55;16 – 01;24;56;22
John Joseph
And they’re armed and they’re.
01;24;56;22 – 01;25;20;10
John Joseph
Looking to do damage to your family, how are you going to stop them, go out and try to have a yoga conversation with them? No, that’s how life is in the material world, man. It’s these people have a lorded over mentality. They’re trying to lord over everybody and take advantage of the weak. That’s why they’re gonna ashram system is perfect.
01;25;20;20 – 01;25;34;12
John Joseph
The four orders of spiritual and social life. And there needs to be those people who are the natural protectors. It’s found naturally in society. You can see who the Brahmins are, not caste system.
01;25;34;12 – 01;25;35;13
John Joseph
Or anything like that.
01;25;35;17 – 01;25;36;18
Nathan Crane
Can I ask you a question?
01;25;37;02 – 01;25;37;12
John Joseph
Yeah.
01;25;37;24 – 01;25;42;27
Nathan Crane
What do you think Prabhupada would do if people with guns rode up on him in his ashram?
01;25;43;25 – 01;26;07;28
John Joseph
Shoot them? Because that’s what he said to do, because that’s what was happening in some of the temples. And Prabhupada said, get guns. This is not this is not a turn. The other the the what the lineage that that that this teachings come from is a lineage of warriors. Okay. That stood up for the right thing. Prabhupada never said, let them come in.
01;26;07;28 – 01;26;17;18
John Joseph
They were coming in and smashing the temple room and assaulting people in all this. And prop I said, get guns.
01;26;17;18 – 01;26;37;13
Nathan Crane
That’s been a really challenging thing for me over the years on my spiritual journey to come to grips with, especially like I don’t like you’ve dug deeply into the Vedas and Bhagavad Gita and Heart Krishna, and it’s like, I’ve spent a lot of time, I’m not Buddhist, but I spend a lot of time with Buddhists and studying Buddhism.
01;26;37;13 – 01;26;58;27
Nathan Crane
I spend a lot of time with Native Americans and indigenous tribes. And like a big part of the at least the Buddhist philosophy is, is, is pure compassion, right? And don’t ever kill anything or anybody even in self-defense. And so, you know, that’s been a tough thing for me now. You know, as a father of two kids, it’s like, what would I do if something goes wrong?
01;26;58;28 – 01;27;00;26
Nathan Crane
Hopefully I never have to deal with that.
01;27;01;03 – 01;27;05;25
John Joseph
But let me put that on you. What would you do if guys came in your house to kill your.
01;27;06;13 – 01;27;06;25
John Joseph
And rape.
01;27;06;25 – 01;27;07;12
John Joseph
Your wife?
01;27;07;12 – 01;27;09;26
Nathan Crane
I mean, I’ve asked myself that for years and years, and I.
01;27;09;27 – 01;27;12;05
John Joseph
Can you better be having the right answer, dude.
01;27;12;05 – 01;27;30;23
Nathan Crane
Because I think I’ve gotten, you know, more in the last few years. I think I’ve gotten to a different place than I was five or six years ago where it’s like, Well, yeah, of course I’m going to defend them, right? I’m going to defend my family no matter what. But you know at what I know, you know, and I would give my and of course, I’ll give my.
01;27;31;05 – 01;27;35;15
John Joseph
Have you ever been up close and personal in a knife fight with somebody?
01;27;35;15 – 01;27;50;21
Nathan Crane
Oh, yeah. I mean, when I was a teenager, I was you know, I had guns. I was on the streets. We were, you know, I could have been murdered at any time. I’d been in knife fights, had been in huge fights with people, you know, groups of people, you know, 15 people. There was two of us against 15 college kids.
01;27;50;21 – 01;28;09;09
Nathan Crane
You know, there were bats and knives and guns. And I mean, yes, not since I was 18 years old. I think the last I grew up fighting. And then after that, it’s like on the spiritual path and meditating and all that stuff. It’s I don’t ever want to fight again. I don’t ever want to hit somebody. I don’t ever want to hurt somebody.
01;28;09;09 – 01;28;16;09
Nathan Crane
I don’t I don’t ever want to be hit again. So thankfully, I’ve never been in a fight since I was 18. So it’s been 18 years.
01;28;16;25 – 01;28;17;17
John Joseph
That’s not.
01;28;17;17 – 01;28;18;05
John Joseph
You know.
01;28;18;05 – 01;28;24;22
John Joseph
I had somebody sit on my thing and say they were going to fucking slice my girlfriend’s fucking throat.
01;28;25;03 – 01;28;25;12
John Joseph
Mm hmm.
01;28;25;18 – 01;28;36;13
John Joseph
Well, I saw a Spanish kid punch an old lady in the face and take her phone and chase them down like a different world, man. It’s a different.
01;28;36;13 – 01;28;43;19
John Joseph
World. And, you know, we’re getting to the point where, like, I’m I’m I’m like, yo.
01;28;43;29 – 01;28;45;22
John Joseph
We’re building a new temple down.
01;28;45;22 – 01;28;47;21
John Joseph
Here and everything like that. And it’s.
01;28;47;21 – 01;28;52;23
John Joseph
Like, if anybody comes on our property looking to do harm to.
01;28;53;10 – 01;28;54;03
John Joseph
You know.
01;28;54;21 – 01;29;03;20
John Joseph
To the people in our community, it’s not going to end well for them. And I’m sorry, but that’s.
01;29;04;14 – 01;29;05;02
John Joseph
You know.
01;29;05;03 – 01;29;13;00
John Joseph
It’s not we practice ahimsa. Yes, but you also what’s ahimsa. Nonviolence.
01;29;13;07 – 01;29;14;10
Nathan Crane
Nonviolence. Yeah. Okay.
01;29;14;17 – 01;29;18;09
John Joseph
And speaking of Buddhism, that’s why my girl don’t even fuck with Buddhists.
01;29;18;29 – 01;29;19;19
John Joseph
Anymore.
01;29;19;22 – 01;29;31;06
John Joseph
The way most so many of them eat meat. And then how they treated everybody in the during the pandemic. If you didn’t take the thing, couldn’t even go meditate in all this other shit.
01;29;31;15 – 01;29;32;04
John Joseph
I didn’t know that.
01;29;32;26 – 01;29;40;22
John Joseph
Oh, dude, my girl, don’t even fuck with any of those Buddhist societies anymore. And that’s the reason why.
01;29;40;22 – 01;29;43;12
John Joseph
But you know.
01;29;44;18 – 01;29;52;12
John Joseph
There’s a reason the one ashram that some Prabhakar tried to restore Divine Ashram Dharma, the four orders of spiritual life.
01;29;53;00 – 01;29;55;26
John Joseph
Right. You got, you know, Brahma cherry.
01;29;56;06 – 01;29;58;17
John Joseph
Greenhouse Brahma chose a celibate.
01;29;58;17 – 01;29;59;29
John Joseph
Young student monk, then.
01;30;00;13 – 01;30;01;11
John Joseph
Free hosta.
01;30;01;22 – 01;30;03;18
John Joseph
Which is family life.
01;30;03;18 – 01;30;05;24
John Joseph
Right. Most people have a.
01;30;05;24 – 01;30;07;05
John Joseph
Family and then.
01;30;07;27 – 01;30;08;25
John Joseph
Vonoprazan.
01;30;08;26 – 01;30;09;24
John Joseph
Is you.
01;30;09;26 – 01;30;19;28
John Joseph
Renouncing out of your family life after you kids are raised and all that stuff. And then seniors, you go in and renounced all of life. Prepare to leave this world like a gentleman.
01;30;19;28 – 01;30;22;25
John Joseph
You don’t abandon your kids and your.
01;30;22;25 – 01;30;46;11
John Joseph
Wife and all this other stuff, but you have to prepare. It’s like you. When I went off the cliff, that was the big test. Life is all these little exams and then when you’re facing death is the big exam. What are you going to do at the time of death? It’s whatever you did in your life. That’s what you’re going to whatever you felt the most comfortable with and practiced just.
01;30;46;11 – 01;31;09;07
John Joseph
Like in training. Whatever I did in training race day, guess what? When all this shit goes sideways, I fall back on my training. I have friends that as CEOs it’s the same thing. It’s like Jocko just said, Oh, you had a tough day. Good, good. You had a tough day. I hope you have another tough day. And that’s the whole thing is that it all led up to that path.
01;31;09;18 – 01;31;30;13
John Joseph
Whatever we practice in this lifetime at that, you know, for one of those born death is certain that’s in the Bhagavad Gita. What are we going to do at the time of death determines the next place that your consciousness will carry your soul to that place. There’s no death nor having once been. Does the soul ever cease to exist.
01;31;31;03 – 01;31;52;22
John Joseph
It’s eternal. So what’s the consciousness of your life that you lived life and you practice, practice, practice. So that when that big test comes, what are you going to do? You’re going to change Harikrishna are you going to scream like a banshee? Oh, my God. And the same thing with the four. What is it? Social life.
01;31;53;20 – 01;31;55;26
John Joseph
You have. You know.
01;31;55;26 – 01;32;20;06
John Joseph
You have you know, the church is the warriors. You have the medical class, the teachers. You have the people who are the mercantile, the farmers. It’s just found naturally in society. It’s not some false narrative that you have to try to live by. So there’s a reason all of those are in place, right? Look at what Hitler was.
01;32;20;06 – 01;32;20;20
John Joseph
Doing.
01;32;20;28 – 01;32;31;22
John Joseph
During World War two. If countries didn’t stick together and go fight that motherfucker, of all the crazy shit that he was doing, we’d all be speaking fucking.
01;32;31;22 – 01;32;32;20
John Joseph
German, man.
01;32;33;11 – 01;32;56;19
John Joseph
But people up and fucking and. And probably said that he was one of the greatest demons to ever come on this planet. That he took birth a German for a million lifetimes and after. So probably use that as an example. Do we let him just go all over and kill Jewish people and fucking kill anybody and march through goose stepping through all these countries?
01;32;58;02 – 01;33;02;07
John Joseph
No, we fucking that dude had that.
01;33;02;07 – 01;33;03;00
John Joseph
Dude and.
01;33;03;00 – 01;33;06;08
John Joseph
All the people that supported that dude had to be put.
01;33;06;08 – 01;33;07;20
John Joseph
Down. Yeah.
01;33;07;24 – 01;33;19;23
Nathan Crane
I mean, I understand that perspective. Obviously that’s a military, you know, governmental perspective. That’s, that’s and it’s in those and in those cases that’s obvious that’s necessary.
01;33;19;23 – 01;33;22;08
John Joseph
Perspective because well, it’s a.
01;33;22;08 – 01;33;25;19
John Joseph
World war. But it could be a war within your community.
01;33;25;19 – 01;33;26;02
John Joseph
Where.
01;33;26;21 – 01;33;47;04
John Joseph
Fucking robbers and rapists and murderers are fucking coming to do harm to your family. Look what happened, Katrina. During Katrina, they went in New Orleans and took away the guns from all the law abiding citizens and left them vulnerable to all the maniacs that came out on to the street. Looting with guns.
01;33;47;20 – 01;33;48;13
Nathan Crane
Yeah, that’s crazy.
01;33;48;28 – 01;33;59;04
John Joseph
That’s what they did. And I saw interviews of people that were like, I was helpless to defend my family if I. But I didn’t give up all my guns. And that’s what saved my fucking life.
01;33;59;16 – 01;34;17;10
Nathan Crane
So so let’s put that. I agree. And so put that example aside for seconds. I want to know what you think about this. So let’s, you know, let’s put put the violence coming at you and your family aside. I agree. We need to defend our families, need to defend our communities and to defend ourselves, especially against violent attackers, rapists, etc..
01;34;17;10 – 01;34;52;00
Nathan Crane
I, I totally agree with that. But let’s say you have a tyrannical government that, you know, we have a pretty good example of that today that is, you know, trying to force things down, you know, into your body or down your throat or become communist or whatever. Don’t you think we have some great examples of societies that stood up against tyrannical governments through, you know, peaceful through nonviolent approaches?
01;34;52;00 – 01;34;58;16
Nathan Crane
Right. They didn’t they didn’t bow down, but they didn’t come out with weapons attacking them. They were basically.
01;34;58;20 – 01;34;59;07
John Joseph
Peaceful.
01;34;59;08 – 01;35;06;03
Nathan Crane
Nonviolent resistance. India against India against Great Britain with Gandhi. Right. It’s a great example.
01;35;06;03 – 01;35;16;00
John Joseph
And you made a lot mistakes, including going into the place where he was warned not to go because an assassin and Gandhi could have preached Bhagavad Gita.
01;35;16;00 – 01;35;16;28
John Joseph
And instead.
01;35;17;17 – 01;35;19;08
John Joseph
He did all this other nonsense.
01;35;19;09 – 01;35;42;26
Nathan Crane
So what I mean what I mean is the result, right? The result was, look, when when they had the guards at the sea and, they banned the the locals from basically making getting their own salt from the sea. And anyone who would walk up, they had, you know, batons and they would beat them on the head. Right. And they just lined up by the thousands and kept walking, walking, walking, walking.
01;35;43;04 – 01;35;54;10
Nathan Crane
Like in there are many examples like that where they they didn’t because they always have bigger weapons. The government always has way more bigger weapons, right way bigger weapons way more way.
01;35;54;12 – 01;35;59;13
John Joseph
Joe Biden said you think you’re going to fight this government? We have nuclear bombs. Right.
01;35;59;20 – 01;36;14;04
Nathan Crane
And so but look at what happened, the result of of, you know, of of India against Great Britain that now that’s one example. There are other examples. But where they’re not attacking you with weapons, they’re attacking you with with thinking systems, with.
01;36;14;04 – 01;36;15;09
John Joseph
You know what, know what?
01;36;15;09 – 01;36;18;03
John Joseph
Probably you know what Roberts said.
01;36;18;21 – 01;36;26;17
John Joseph
Get the farm communities together, become self-sufficient, simple living in hi thinking.
01;36;26;17 – 01;36;26;29
John Joseph
We don’t.
01;36;26;29 – 01;36;31;13
John Joseph
Want anything to do with your so-called society, which is a society of.
01;36;31;13 – 01;36;37;21
John Joseph
Madness. Okay? Killing animals.
01;36;37;21 – 01;36;47;17
John Joseph
Killing babies, all of this shit. Now, they found out, but, you know, they’re harvesting baby organs and all the rest of this shit. We don’t want anything to do with that insanity.
01;36;48;09 – 01;36;48;21
John Joseph
Right?
01;36;48;21 – 01;37;04;07
John Joseph
So get the farm communities together, become self-sufficient, always go the cities and have centers to help elevate people’s consciousness. Because that’s really the greatest thing.
01;37;04;07 – 01;37;07;01
John Joseph
That can do for humanity, is.
01;37;07;01 – 01;37;07;25
John Joseph
To uplift the.
01;37;07;25 – 01;37;09;14
John Joseph
Consciousness of.
01;37;10;00 – 01;37;29;04
John Joseph
This is a spiritual war. We are we are in the Kali Yuga that last for 427,000 years, but we are only 5000 years into the Kali Yuga. So there a 10,000 year period of awakening and we’re just at the beginning.
01;37;29;04 – 01;37;30;23
John Joseph
Of that now and that’s.
01;37;30;23 – 01;37;44;03
John Joseph
Why they always say it’s the darkest before the dawn. People are waking up day. I always see the glass of glass as half full, not half empty. I feel more and more people. What this whole shit, what.
01;37;44;03 – 01;37;45;10
John Joseph
They’re doing right now.
01;37;45;19 – 01;37;49;00
John Joseph
It’s waking people up. They kick the fucking sleeping.
01;37;49;00 – 01;37;49;13
John Joseph
Bear.
01;37;49;13 – 01;37;49;24
Nathan Crane
Dude.
01;37;50;02 – 01;37;52;14
John Joseph
Totally waking up. And you know.
01;37;52;14 – 01;38;10;09
John Joseph
What? We have to be there with compassion for these people, and we have to, you know, get the farm communities, raise the consciousness of the masses. That’s really where it’s at it’s that simple, living in high thinking. We don’t need this whole materialistic society. They’re more materialistic.
01;38;10;24 – 01;38;11;10
John Joseph
When.
01;38;11;10 – 01;38;26;14
John Joseph
We’re taking away from those internal conversations in philosophy, like what we’re talking, it leads to the downgrade, the degradation of society. People used to sit around and talk philosophy, Socrates, all these great philosophers.
01;38;26;27 – 01;38;27;13
John Joseph
And even.
01;38;27;13 – 01;38;51;05
John Joseph
Emerson, Thoreau, like all these amazing philosophers, would sit around and talk philosophy and ponder life. Where is that happening now? All of this bullshit is distracting people away from those. And I just wrote that the other day on social media, it’s it’s distracting people away from the internal conversations that we all need to be having, especially with ourselves.
01;38;51;07 – 01;38;53;17
John Joseph
We’re running like Bob Marley said, you’re.
01;38;53;17 – 01;38;54;29
John Joseph
Running and you’re running and.
01;38;55;02 – 01;39;05;17
John Joseph
Running away, but you can’t run away from yourself. That’s what’s going on. So We want to have those farm communities and become self-sufficient. We want to.
01;39;05;17 – 01;39;07;11
John Joseph
Centers in the city and all that.
01;39;07;23 – 01;39;18;06
John Joseph
But make no mistake about it, if people to that farm trying to cause problems or rob rape and pillage.
01;39;18;06 – 01;39;18;27
John Joseph
Then you.
01;39;18;27 – 01;39;23;25
John Joseph
Got to have the motherfuckers there that’s going to stop that from happening. But I don’t know. I don’t live by that.
01;39;24;02 – 01;39;26;13
John Joseph
I’m not walking around like, you know.
01;39;26;13 – 01;39;27;02
John Joseph
Concealed.
01;39;27;02 – 01;39;28;08
John Joseph
Carry waiting.
01;39;28;08 – 01;39;41;11
John Joseph
For something to go down. I don’t I don’t live like that. But what are the greatest worry you say always stay prepared for the battle, live by peace.
01;39;41;20 – 01;39;45;03
John Joseph
But stay prepared to fight. And that’s always.
01;39;45;28 – 01;39;49;16
John Joseph
You know, we call it things on the streets of New York. We would always be like.
01;39;49;25 – 01;39;53;02
John Joseph
Okay, state of alert. Yo, watch your back. You know.
01;39;53;15 – 01;40;18;19
John Joseph
You don’t walk around like like Joe said, what’s the most peaceful group on the planet? It’s a room full of fighters. They got nothing to prove. It’s always the empty barrels making the most noise that of flapping their guns all over the place. They got to tell you how tough they are. I know friends, my friend just which I had 20 years in the he developed the whole fighting system that they teach in third phase of buds.
01;40;19;01 – 01;40;38;24
John Joseph
He’s the most humble dude you’ll ever meet in your life. If you met him on the street, you would never fucking know how fucking bad ass this dude is because he’s so fucking humble and respectful. He doesn’t ever have to do that. And that’s the kind of guy you want to.
01;40;38;24 – 01;40;41;05
John Joseph
Have next to.
01;40;41;05 – 01;40;56;23
John Joseph
You when the shit goes down. And that’s that’s just my philosophy is to stay prepared so that you don’t get caught out there. I don’t want to be. That’s why I always tell people, you know, my friend, I’m like, I’m trying to get him fit because he goes to the range. He does all this shit. I’m like.
01;40;56;23 – 01;40;57;03
John Joseph
Dude.
01;40;57;29 – 01;41;01;24
John Joseph
You got to get your cardio together. You got to be fit on so many different.
01;41;01;24 – 01;41;05;03
John Joseph
Levels, you know? But you know.
01;41;05;14 – 01;41;09;14
John Joseph
It’s you always have to stay prepared. You never know what’s going to happen.
01;41;09;14 – 01;41;11;14
John Joseph
And, you know, you.
01;41;11;14 – 01;41;20;18
John Joseph
Also live spiritually, but make no mistake about it, you know, private parts teacher was back, the senator, they called him the lighting guru.
01;41;20;18 – 01;41;21;10
John Joseph
In India.
01;41;21;16 – 01;41;53;04
John Joseph
Then the shrink, a guru because he was fierce, but he was also self realized. So he was outta my out of career. So this whole thing where we have to move in peace and like, you know, all of this stuff, I, you know, I roll with that to a certain degree, but there’s a certain line that people are going to step, because what I’ve seen happen and what I’m seeing happen now in New York City right now, what’s going on?
01;41;53;04 – 01;42;07;22
John Joseph
This is what happens when lawlessness takes over a society and they do away with the churches, the police, defund the police. 2500 seasoned cops just handed in their badge this year.
01;42;07;22 – 01;42;08;18
John Joseph
In New York City.
01;42;09;06 – 01;42;29;12
John Joseph
And now you have these five foot women offense that way, £200. How are they going to fight anybody? What? Like it’s insane. And you need to police. You need to have military. You need to have even if you have a farm.
01;42;29;12 – 01;42;31;11
John Joseph
Somewhere like.
01;42;31;19 – 01;42;37;09
John Joseph
I was just reading about this dude and three armed men came to his farm in Texas.
01;42;38;13 – 01;42;40;26
John Joseph
And they, you know, came on.
01;42;40;26 – 01;42;42;08
John Joseph
They’re trying to do some shit.
01;42;42;28 – 01;42;45;28
John Joseph
And thankfully, you know, homeboy.
01;42;45;28 – 01;42;50;07
John Joseph
Was able to fire warning shots with a high powered rifle.
01;42;50;07 – 01;42;51;28
John Joseph
And they ran.
01;42;52;09 – 01;43;06;16
John Joseph
But it’s we’re getting to the point where, like I said, the darkness before the dawn and we haven’t even seen you know, these people are all talking about nuclear bombs. We should go nuke Iran.
01;43;06;16 – 01;43;07;02
John Joseph
Now.
01;43;07;18 – 01;43;11;15
John Joseph
This fucking cowards that never been in a fight in the life.
01;43;12;12 – 01;43;12;28
John Joseph
You know.
01;43;13;23 – 01;43;22;13
John Joseph
Never been in a fight in their life. These politicians are talking all this tough guy. Shit’s crazy and your fucking kids, how about that?
01;43;23;12 – 01;43;24;26
John Joseph
Like, you know.
01;43;25;12 – 01;43;28;23
John Joseph
There needs to be the medical head of.
01;43;28;23 – 01;43;38;07
John Joseph
Society, all the thinkers, the scholars, the spiritualists. They need to be dictating what needs to happen.
01;43;38;28 – 01;43;43;22
John Joseph
They need to be the guiding force of society because society.
01;43;43;22 – 01;43;44;19
John Joseph
Right now.
01;43;45;01 – 01;43;47;02
John Joseph
Is being run by tyrants.
01;43;47;08 – 01;43;47;24
John Joseph
And look.
01;43;47;24 – 01;43;50;18
John Joseph
At where it’s led us, even in last 20.
01;43;50;18 – 01;43;53;16
John Joseph
Years. Look what’s been happening.
01;43;54;13 – 01;44;02;24
John Joseph
Look at what they did. 911. They still won’t answer questions about that. They still won’t answer questions about the assassination of John F.
01;44;02;24 – 01;44;03;08
John Joseph
Kennedy.
01;44;03;17 – 01;44;06;21
John Joseph
Because he wanted to fucking pull everybody out of.
01;44;06;27 – 01;44;09;01
John Joseph
Vietnam and and do away.
01;44;09;05 – 01;44;09;19
John Joseph
The Federal.
01;44;09;19 – 01;44;11;02
John Joseph
Reserve and all the rest of it.
01;44;11;15 – 01;44;26;10
John Joseph
They don’t want to answer any of these questions. Why did we even go to Vietnam? That was a false flag to the Gulf of Tonkin said. They fired on our ship. Never fucking happened. But we sent people over there killing people, getting our own killed.
01;44;28;00 – 01;44;29;13
John Joseph
So we need.
01;44;30;00 – 01;44;35;29
John Joseph
To think as a society that a direct thing the head of society needs to be that spiritual.
01;44;35;29 – 01;44;38;15
John Joseph
Class. Yeah, right. And then the.
01;44;38;15 – 01;44;41;24
John Joseph
Arms are like the fucking churches that are.
01;44;41;24 – 01;44;43;13
John Joseph
Going to do what needs.
01;44;43;13 – 01;44;53;21
John Joseph
To get done to make things happen. The voices, the mercantile, the farmers, who’s to grow the food? I love those bumper stickers. I see them down here. Tell the farmer because you ain’t.
01;44;53;21 – 01;44;57;12
John Joseph
Eaten without one. Right? Like, and you know.
01;44;57;13 – 01;45;18;08
John Joseph
Now got Bill Gates trying to buy up all the fucking seeds and control everything. And this is what it’s all about. These are fucking evil people that are just trying to control planet and and the way they do it is to turn everybody against each other. And that’s what they did. That’s what they did in 911. That’s what they did during this pandemic.
01;45;18;08 – 01;45;21;28
John Joseph
That’s what they’re going to that’s what they’re doing now with this Palestinian.
01;45;21;28 – 01;45;22;04
John Joseph
And.
01;45;22;09 – 01;45;27;26
John Joseph
Israeli crisis. Ukraine, Russia, it’s always turning the people against each other.
01;45;27;26 – 01;45;42;28
Nathan Crane
Well, and they’re going to they’re trying to turn even, you know, the same thing in the in the food situation and vegans against carnivores, etc.. Bill Gates up all the land. Right. What is he working on? What do you want to do and what’s he investing in?
01;45;42;28 – 01;45;44;05
John Joseph
Seeds, GMO.
01;45;44;05 – 01;45;50;10
Nathan Crane
Seeds and fake meats. Right. So they’re promoting they’re promoting vegan vegan slaves.
01;45;50;10 – 01;45;52;13
John Joseph
The world. I have a friend who.
01;45;52;13 – 01;45;53;13
John Joseph
Won’t even talk to.
01;45;53;13 – 01;45;54;12
John Joseph
Me anymore, who.
01;45;54;12 – 01;45;57;11
John Joseph
Was my best friend. I won’t mention his name has.
01;45;57;11 – 01;45;57;25
John Joseph
One of the.
01;45;58;00 – 01;46;02;00
John Joseph
Biggest successful restaurants in Los Angeles. He said to.
01;46;02;00 – 01;46;02;10
John Joseph
Me.
01;46;03;04 – 01;46;06;27
John Joseph
Please stop dissing Bill Gates on social media. He’s my business.
01;46;06;27 – 01;46;07;21
John Joseph
Partner. And now with.
01;46;07;21 – 01;46;31;16
John Joseph
Impossible. I said, Bro, I’ve been talking about this motherfucker for a long time now. You want me to, like, not expose the shady doing to humanity? Sorry, I can’t do that. I will stand for a Trump supporting right wing conspiracy theorist by him and he no longer talks to me so well.
01;46;31;16 – 01;46;35;03
Nathan Crane
And that’s that’s the problem with not having critical thinking.
01;46;35;23 – 01;46;36;14
John Joseph
Good riddance.
01;46;36;14 – 01;46;54;08
Nathan Crane
Meaning good riddance. You know and so that’s that’s something people need to watch out for in in the vegan movement. So people tuning in here interested in adopting a plant based diet or want to be healthier, want to perform better as an athlete. I mean, that’s right. My new company, I’m launching plant powered athlete. That’s what it’s about.
01;46;54;08 – 01;47;15;10
Nathan Crane
It’s about encouraging, inspiring and educating, supporting people to add more real whole plant foods to their diet, to improve their performance as athletes. Right. But the other side of that is there are these greedy people and corporations in power that will monopolize and take over.
01;47;16;07 – 01;47;16;20
John Joseph
Critical.
01;47;16;20 – 01;47;17;09
Nathan Crane
Thinking.
01;47;17;09 – 01;47;18;17
John Joseph
Plant based companies.
01;47;18;17 – 01;47;19;00
John Joseph
Now.
01;47;19;07 – 01;47;31;06
Nathan Crane
Right. And then telling you, you know, eat our fake processed laboratory grown meats and you’ll be healthy and you’ll save the planet which is bullshit, you know, that stuff is poison.
01;47;31;15 – 01;47;33;16
John Joseph
It’s total bullshit. And now.
01;47;33;22 – 01;47;36;08
John Joseph
The vegans are like, I would eat some lab grown.
01;47;36;08 – 01;47;37;29
John Joseph
Beef. I’m like, Yo.
01;47;37;29 – 01;47;39;04
John Joseph
Are you crazy?
01;47;40;12 – 01;47;40;22
John Joseph
Like.
01;47;41;18 – 01;47;45;11
John Joseph
It’s not about them. It’s like, it’s not about health. I’m like, it.
01;47;45;11 – 01;47;47;06
John Joseph
Is about health, right?
01;47;47;13 – 01;48;05;05
John Joseph
Because if you’re not the shining example, if you’re fucking £50 overweight and you can’t even run five miles of bench press, £100, these alpha that we need to get in touch with that you think they’re going to listen to you, the carnivore diet motherfuckers?
01;48;05;22 – 01;48;06;24
John Joseph
No, they’re not.
01;48;07;10 – 01;48;11;15
John Joseph
And they make a good point. Most of these motherfuckers don’t look healthy.
01;48;11;21 – 01;48;13;11
John Joseph
Because they don’t eat healthy.
01;48;13;18 – 01;48;16;12
John Joseph
There’s there’s a there is a lot of people in the plant based.
01;48;16;12 – 01;48;18;07
John Joseph
Community that, you know.
01;48;19;09 – 01;48;22;28
John Joseph
They do it the right way. And even I books, I always say, hey, you.
01;48;22;28 – 01;48;23;11
John Joseph
Know, I’m.
01;48;23;11 – 01;48;23;21
John Joseph
All.
01;48;23;21 – 01;48;25;15
John Joseph
For like, you know.
01;48;25;15 – 01;48;26;02
John Joseph
We have to.
01;48;26;08 – 01;48;27;04
Nathan Crane
Transition.
01;48;27;25 – 01;48;28;20
John Joseph
We have to grow.
01;48;28;20 – 01;48;31;05
John Joseph
Even as in our own life.
01;48;31;10 – 01;48;37;11
John Joseph
And I’m like, hey, okay. I used to tell people, go ahead and get the gardening start.
01;48;37;11 – 01;48;39;12
John Joseph
The other thing, it’s, you know, but now.
01;48;39;12 – 01;48;53;22
John Joseph
As times go on, I see that a lot of that is processed and it caused inflammation. And I’m 61 years old, I can’t afford inflammation. So guess what? I don’t eat that shit anymore. I make my own motherfucking veggie.
01;48;53;22 – 01;48;56;18
John Joseph
Burgers like, you know, and.
01;48;56;23 – 01;49;03;20
John Joseph
I do have some vegan cheese. It’s going to be miyoko’s, which is like, just basically like mac.
01;49;04;00 – 01;49;04;09
John Joseph
And.
01;49;04;09 – 01;49;05;07
John Joseph
Nuts and fucking.
01;49;05;07 – 01;49;06;19
John Joseph
Like, you know, that.
01;49;06;19 – 01;49;07;16
Nathan Crane
Stuff is bomb.
01;49;08;07 – 01;49;11;15
John Joseph
It doesn’t have all this bullshit. And if it sides a little coconut.
01;49;11;15 – 01;49;12;05
John Joseph
Oil, which.
01;49;12;11 – 01;49;14;12
John Joseph
I’m not opposed to but hey.
01;49;14;12 – 01;49;16;20
Nathan Crane
Be tried their vegan butter by the way.
01;49;16;23 – 01;49;18;22
John Joseph
I’m a motherfucking yeah I got it right in.
01;49;19;07 – 01;49;25;27
Nathan Crane
Dear. That’s like I will I’ll I’ll cook up some toast just just to eat the butter so good.
01;49;26;04 – 01;49;35;00
John Joseph
Come over by our business. Really just fucking kicked her out of her own company. So watch your get in bed with.
01;49;35;00 – 01;49;35;29
John Joseph
Man because.
01;49;36;00 – 01;49;48;14
John Joseph
There’s ruthless. These people are businessmen. You think Bill Gates gives a fuck about animals or the environment, right? He fucking eats me. Flies around in a goddamn private fucking jet. I mean.
01;49;48;14 – 01;49;54;25
Nathan Crane
I don’t like to judge people, but look. Look at how he looks. He is not the shining example of health. I’m sorry.
01;49;55;01 – 01;50;10;11
John Joseph
Man. Boobs. He got more disease. Fucking fat. Even Joe Roe Rogan was like, Dude, you’re one of the richest people on earth. You can’t get a fucking trainer. Go fucking. But even in Davos, when they had the fucking World Economic Forum.
01;50;10;11 – 01;50;11;16
John Joseph
Over there in Switzerland.
01;50;11;25 – 01;50;37;24
John Joseph
How many, what was it, 1100. Private fucking jets flying in over there. They yachts. They own fucking houses, mansions by the ocean. We’re not a single solar panel going to sit there and tell us we make the rules for how we got to live. Rules for the and not for me. Fuck you. I’m not into this plant based shit to make you happy you don’t give a fuck about animals.
01;50;38;00 – 01;50;56;26
John Joseph
What the fuck did they serve at the Davos convention in Kobe? Fucking steak. Okay, how was that environmentally friendly or compassionate? They claim that it’s doing everything for society. We’re doing it for your benefit. No, they Want you to own nothing by 2030.
01;50;56;26 – 01;50;58;07
John Joseph
And if you don’t own it.
01;50;58;07 – 01;51;21;02
John Joseph
Guess who does them? They just had a lecture with a motherfucker saying, Oh, yeah, only the rich are going to be able to travel. But you can put a fucking thing on your face and see videos of Malaysia and feel like you’re they’re like, fuck you, how about that? Fuck you and the horse you fucking rode in on, motherfucker, all these wimpy motherfuckers.
01;51;21;02 – 01;51;26;29
John Joseph
I’m like, Didn’t anybody smack you in school?
01;51;26;29 – 01;51;29;00
Nathan Crane
Oh, my God. That’s what I love about you.
01;51;29;00 – 01;51;29;20
John Joseph
All right.
01;51;29;27 – 01;51;32;17
Nathan Crane
Yeah. No, I. 100%. You’re right. 100%.
01;51;32;22 – 01;51;53;23
John Joseph
You’re telling me I got to live? Bill Gates. People think they have a choice whether or not to take it. They don’t have a choice. Oh, gee, golly whiz, motherfucker, you went on TV promoting something you invested in and then after everything, you dumped the stock, you made 300 million and went on TV that same night saying, we got it wrong.
01;51;53;23 – 01;51;57;26
John Joseph
They didn’t do what we they would and we have to do better next time.
01;51;58;17 – 01;52;03;01
Nathan Crane
Yeah, they’ll do better next time. After we pocketed 300 million. Right.
01;52;03;10 – 01;52;11;26
John Joseph
Personally, that’s just him right. I mean, dude, it’s like, wake the fuck up people and smell the fucking cappuccino.
01;52;11;26 – 01;52;12;23
John Joseph
Man, to.
01;52;13;00 – 01;52;40;00
John Joseph
Me. Jesus fucking Christ, it’s like, excuse my French, but it’s not that hard to see. And the punk rock community has been singing about the New World Order for the last 40 fucking years. Crass All these bands, the Crow Mags, the Bad Brains Crow mags. I was the lead singer of I’ve been singing about that shit forever and then we’re seeing it coming and nobody’s saying shit.
01;52;41;14 – 01;53;05;10
John Joseph
But the message now is you’re not going to be able to fight the fucking government. You fucking get your life together and have a simple life and be good to people and help each other and help be compassionate towards each other. They want us to hate each other. That’s that’s how they keep in control. It’s like that, that thing where they put the black and red ants in a jar and they.
01;53;05;18 – 01;53;06;06
John Joseph
And they.
01;53;06;13 – 01;53;33;09
John Joseph
Exist cohesively. And then when they shake the jar, they try to kill each other. They’re shaking the jar. It’s like the movie trading places, where they made a $1 bet about controlling somebody like Eddie Murphy. Right. That he was a scammer, I’ll bet. You know, they that’s what they’re doing with us. They’re just throwing shit after shit, after shit being like, let’s see what the cockroaches do now.
01;53;33;09 – 01;54;04;05
John Joseph
Fucking ken trails and everything else coming it falling down on people. It’s, it’s, it’s it’s fucking insane. These people are insane. And that was another thing. They denied it. Now they’re saying, Yeah, we’re doing the geoengineering. We have to stop the Bill Gates. We want to spray dust and block out sun to stop global warming. No, you want to block the vitamin D three coming out of the sun, because that’s a fucking vital necessity for human.
01;54;04;05 – 01;54;08;12
John Joseph
So they only say they’re doing it for the benefit of society.
01;54;08;19 – 01;54;08;28
John Joseph
What?
01;54;09;03 – 01;54;39;00
John Joseph
I mean, that’s the wrap. John de Rockefeller said that’s the rap that they used with the fucking industrial animal agriculture. We’ll be able to feed more people, right? And then they get into the GMO with every potential taste. The same from McDonald’s. Jerry And now look where we are. Look where the fuck we are. Look, we’re all of that goodness for society and all that philanthropy for society has gotten us.
01;54;40;21 – 01;54;46;02
Nathan Crane
Well, dude, I’d love talk to you for another 2 hours, as has been.
01;54;46;02 – 01;54;47;28
John Joseph
Well, actually, yeah, we want to go.
01;54;48;00 – 01;55;08;24
Nathan Crane
Right. Well, I know we’re already like a half hour over what. What we talked about, but I love talking with you, man. You’re just. You’re a fireball. You’re a fireball. You’re inspirational. You’re, you know, you speak truth. We need more of that. So, you know, I appreciate you coming on the podcast, man, getting to know you a little better.
01;55;08;24 – 01;55;11;17
John Joseph
And and Doctor Joel Kahn, what an.
01;55;11;17 – 01;55;12;12
John Joseph
Amazing.
01;55;13;01 – 01;55;17;08
John Joseph
The heart healthy doctor I’m glad he does that man.
01;55;17;08 – 01;55;23;02
John Joseph
I’ve met so many amazing people through him and you know, he’s a real warrior guy, man.
01;55;23;06 – 01;55;24;07
Nathan Crane
Yeah, he’s awesome.
01;55;24;07 – 01;55;26;16
John Joseph
I was in New York before we left and he.
01;55;26;16 – 01;55;34;00
John Joseph
Would come down there and fucking we had we would go out and have fucking lunch shit like that and met his daughter.
01;55;34;15 – 01;55;37;08
John Joseph
Just there’s so many good people like that.
01;55;38;29 – 01;55;39;22
John Joseph
And it’s like.
01;55;40;25 – 01;55;44;13
John Joseph
People have to start seeing the good in each other. And that’s the point that I.
01;55;44;13 – 01;55;45;03
John Joseph
Want to make.
01;55;45;11 – 01;55;54;09
John Joseph
That’s probably always said if you see a spark of goodness, man, that spark and make it a fucking raging fire, don’t try to throw.
01;55;54;09 – 01;55;55;07
John Joseph
Water on it.
01;55;56;16 – 01;56;06;24
John Joseph
Don’t try to douse out somebody else’s fire. Help them be compassionate. That’s what it’s all about.
01;56;08;14 – 01;56;09;02
John Joseph
You know.
01;56;09;20 – 01;56;11;05
John Joseph
We have to help each other.
01;56;11;15 – 01;56;12;04
John Joseph
On this.
01;56;12;12 – 01;56;31;17
John Joseph
To get through this crazy thing called life. I had so many people help me, you know, they always say that cliche. I’d be dead or imprisoned. Well, guess what? I had people try to kill me and I was locked up. So if I didn’t have very compassionate people, show me the way, that’s where I would be today.
01;56;32;03 – 01;56;33;26
John Joseph
And I said that I’m here having.
01;56;33;26 – 01;56;35;06
John Joseph
An amazing conversation.
01;56;35;06 – 01;56;37;18
John Joseph
With you so that there you go.
01;56;38;28 – 01;56;51;04
Nathan Crane
Again. It’s a good a good place to end it. On a positive note, I want to encourage people to go go get John’s book meet is for if you’re offended you.
01;56;51;17 – 01;56;59;26
John Joseph
Stay like this if you want to know why I wrote that read read this because I even said evolution.
01;56;59;26 – 01;57;01;19
Nathan Crane
Of Cro-Magnon. By the way, for those who.
01;57;01;20 – 01;57;06;02
John Joseph
Said the violence that I experienced in my lifetime is what led.
01;57;06;02 – 01;57;07;23
John Joseph
Me to stop eating animals.
01;57;08;02 – 01;57;12;05
John Joseph
When I saw the documentary meat. Did you ever see that one?
01;57;12;18 – 01;57;13;24
Nathan Crane
I don’t know if I saw meat.
01;57;14;17 – 01;57;20;15
John Joseph
He did. Let me get his name real quick, because this is. I’ll just leave. I’ll leave with this.
01;57;20;15 – 01;57;23;28
Nathan Crane
I’ve seen a ton over the years. I don’t you know, I don’t I don’t know. Yeah.
01;57;23;28 – 01;57;26;01
John Joseph
I have to tell you, this wasn’t about the killing.
01;57;26;01 – 01;57;27;19
John Joseph
Of the animals or anything.
01;57;27;25 – 01;57;31;00
Nathan Crane
Mm hmm. Just called meat.
01;57;31;27 – 01;57;34;11
John Joseph
Yeah, and it was David.
01;57;34;11 – 01;57;35;12
Nathan Crane
Why is it that one.
01;57;35;26 – 01;57;39;22
John Joseph
Oh nine knights? Hold on. 1/2. I’ll tell you in a second, because.
01;57;40;10 – 01;57;49;13
John Joseph
He just basically made documentaries where it was like he didn’t do any voiceover narration.
01;57;49;13 – 01;58;03;03
Nathan Crane
Oh, it was just the imagery. Yeah. I have seen I don’t know if I’ve seen that one, but I’ve seen where it’s literally just music and like the basically B-roll, right, of like the farms and stuff, the factory farming and all that.
01;58;03;20 – 01;58;05;21
John Joseph
Well, he did city court filings.
01;58;05;21 – 01;58;06;13
John Joseph
Which was.
01;58;06;27 – 01;58;08;08
John Joseph
Frederick Weissman.
01;58;09;17 – 01;58;10;20
John Joseph
And even when he.
01;58;10;20 – 01;58;21;11
John Joseph
Did it, that movie was about an insane asylum. So he just shot the camera and shot the people. He didn’t. They just let them tell the story. So when I saw meat in 1980.
01;58;22;24 – 01;58;23;24
John Joseph
Right, and it was.
01;58;23;24 – 01;58;30;16
John Joseph
Like it showed you like the opening image was this horse in a field and it was cold and the steam.
01;58;30;16 – 01;58;32;03
John Joseph
Was coming out of the nostrils.
01;58;32;11 – 01;58;35;00
John Joseph
And then it pulled back and there was a cowboy.
01;58;35;00 – 01;58;35;19
John Joseph
On the horse.
01;58;35;28 – 01;58;40;28
John Joseph
And then it pulled back and it was all these other cowboys on all these other horses. And they were.
01;58;40;28 – 01;58;41;17
John Joseph
Lowering.
01;58;41;17 – 01;58;51;14
John Joseph
Pulled back some more. They were loading cows into the trucks out in the field, and then he followed them through the whole process of killing the fucking animal.
01;58;51;14 – 01;58;52;11
John Joseph
And like it.
01;58;52;11 – 01;59;00;28
John Joseph
Wasn’t anybody being vegan or anything, you just showed you the process of how they treated this. It sent the beings like machines.
01;59;01;07 – 01;59;02;07
John Joseph
Yeah, it had.
01;59;02;07 – 01;59;08;27
John Joseph
No, I said, holy fucking shit. And I came out of a world of seeing people get murdered in.
01;59;08;27 – 01;59;13;01
John Joseph
Front of me and I’m like, I don’t want any part of that.
01;59;13;14 – 01;59;19;06
John Joseph
I’ve had violence done to me. I don’t want and I don’t want to contribute to any more violence on this planet.
01;59;19;15 – 01;59;20;12
John Joseph
And within like.
01;59;20;12 – 01;59;23;18
John Joseph
Nine months after seeing that, I was completely off of.
01;59;23;18 – 01;59;26;15
John Joseph
Meat. And I have been going on fucking.
01;59;27;00 – 01;59;31;27
John Joseph
You know, 43 years now coming up in in 2024.
01;59;32;04 – 01;59;44;04
Nathan Crane
Well, you’re obviously you’re obviously protein deficient and sick and you can’t, you know, you’re weak, you know, doing all these diamonds and you’re 61. You look like you’re 45. You’re obviously doing terrible on a vegan diet.
01;59;44;04 – 01;59;55;10
John Joseph
I fucking stock man. I just make up a fucking life on here and fuck you.
01;59;55;10 – 02;00;01;18
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Well, yeah, I encourage people to go read the book. It’s available everywhere online. It’s a good.
02;00;01;18 – 02;00;04;06
John Joseph
Read. The new book coming to know.
02;00;04;06 – 02;00;09;11
Nathan Crane
I’ll send me a copy that I really want to read it and we will get you back on the podcast.
02;00;09;22 – 02;00;14;18
John Joseph
Yeah, I can’t say the title right now, but as you know why and everybody will be trying to like.
02;00;15;05 – 02;00;22;25
John Joseph
When I put it when I said I got a book coming out mean it’s a pussy. I had somebody write me and go, hey, I, and then I went to get.
02;00;22;25 – 02;00;25;04
John Joseph
The the website of.
02;00;25;10 – 02;00;36;08
John Joseph
Course is dot com and somebody bought it and I was like, Yo, what is this? And they’re like, oh, I’ll sell it to you for five, fucking like five grand or whatever.
02;00;36;08 – 02;00;41;27
John Joseph
Right. And I’m like, yeah, there’s an alleyway on Avenue 13 Street.
02;00;41;27 – 02;00;42;20
John Joseph
Go down that.
02;00;42;20 – 02;00;45;27
John Joseph
Alleyway, I’ll make sure there are one and I’ll.
02;00;45;27 – 02;00;47;27
Nathan Crane
Bring the cash with me. I’ll have five.
02;00;49;12 – 02;00;52;04
John Joseph
Documents.
02;00;52;04 – 02;00;53;11
John Joseph
It’s going to be you.
02;00;53;11 – 02;00;57;21
John Joseph
Not to sign it in your blood.
02;00;57;21 – 02;00;58;29
Nathan Crane
Awesome, brother. I appreciate you.
02;00;58;29 – 02;01;00;18
John Joseph
That’s everybody, man.
02;01;00;24 – 02;01;01;06
John Joseph
You know.
02;01;01;06 – 02;01;02;12
John Joseph
Keep God in the center.
02;01;02;12 – 02;01;11;25
John Joseph
Of your life, man. That’s that’s the biggest thing I can say and be good to each and have compassion. Make the world a better place than how you found it.
02;01;12;18 – 02;01;15;02
Nathan Crane
I love it. I love it. Appreciate you. Take care.