Dr. Gabriel Cousens: Unlocking Secrets to Longevity | Nathan Crane Podcast 31

ūüĆŅ Discover the Holistic Approach to Healing & Preventing Diseases ūüĆŅ Welcome to Natural Health with Nathan Crane! In this enlightening interview, I sit down with Dr. Gabriel Cousens, a holistic physician, diabetes researcher, spiritual master, and more. We delve into the secrets of holistic liberation, mental-emotional healing, and the power of a life food-based diet. ūüćÉ Learn how a life food diet can help reverse diabetes and prevent cancer. ūüĆü Gain insights into the psycho-spiritual aspects of healing. ūü§Ě Discover the importance of social connections for longevity. If you have an interest in alternative, holistic, or integrative medicine, this interview is a¬†must.watch. Dr. Cousens shares decades of wisdom and experience that can transform your health and life. ūüďĆ Don‚Äôt miss out on this life-changing conversation! Hit that ‚ÄúSUBSCRIBE‚ÄĚ button to stay updated with our holistic health content.

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00;00;00;00 – 00;00;25;16

Nathan Crane

Going back to the podcast, super happy you’re joining us here. This is a really special conversation. So this is actually an interview I did with my friend Dr. Gabriel Cousins a few years ago. But it’s not out there publicly online, anywhere, and there’s so much gold. In this interview, I wanted to do a podcast episode around it. So Dr. Gabriel Cousins, he’s a medical doctor, a rabbi, a holistic physician.

00;00;25;25 – 00;00;53;13

Nathan Crane

He has been on a raw food vegan diet for, I believe, over four decades himself. And he’s stronger now in his eighties than he’s ever been his entire life. He has helped people reverse diabetes. He’s done documentaries about it. He’s a spiritual teacher and a pretty incredible and interesting person. So without further ado, enjoy this interview I did with Dr. Rabbi Gabriel Cousins.

00;00;54;01 – 00;01;00;19

Gabriel Cousens

Well, it’s always a pleasure to work with you. You’re always doing such good things in the world. So I’m happy to participate.

00;01;01;07 – 00;01;46;29

Nathan Crane

Thank you so much. I’ve actually had the fortunate opportunity to come to the Tree of Life Center in Arizona and spend some time there, spend some time doing chocolate meditation and spending time with you. Over the years, it’s been a true blessing to learn so much from you and carry so much wisdom and first-hand experience when it comes to leading and guiding and teaching people how to connect deeper to their spiritual essence, how to eat in a way that allows the body to regenerate and to have vitality and longevity to reverse allow itself to heal and prevent diseases like diabetes and cancer.

00;01;46;29 – 00;02;08;04

Nathan Crane

And so today’s interview, I think, is going to be a very special one. You bring many years of experience. And yet I’d love to open up just a little bit about some of the I know Tree of Life Center. You’re not going to be taking personal patients anymore or very soon, but you are new.¬†

00;02;08;15 – 00;02;10;07

Gabriel Cousens

Taking new patients and they could.

00;02;10;07 – 00;02;32;03

Nathan Crane

Be patients. So when you are teaching online, you have amazing books. You have a lot of stuff we’ll talk about in this interview. But when you’ve had patients and people coming in with diseases like cancer, what were some of the things you saw? What were some of the maybe challenges that you saw them dealing with and then some of the solutions that you have found along the way?

00;02;33;19 – 00;03;03;27

Gabriel Cousens

So let’s start with the idea. I didn’t seeing continue to see people for over 45 years, actually 46 years at this point. And so I’ve had an opportunity to see a variety of people and see a variety of healings, a lot of cancer expert. I do a lot of work preventing cancer and they had actually very high success rate in treating it.

00;03;05;02 – 00;03;33;23

Gabriel Cousens

And my main focus is once people have been through their cancer treatments and so forth, getting them on a lifestyle that prevents a recurrence because a big deal is recurrence. It’s really because when you get a recurrence, it comes back very fast and very hard. And we really have very good, very good results with that preventing recurrence, like it’s a five year recurrence that we’re talking about.

00;03;34;03 – 00;04;08;14

Gabriel Cousens

Okay. So how do I look at it? Well, I have a term that there’s a kind of when I created holistic liberation. Okay. So it actually really includes working with people spiritually and psychologically as a psychiatrist, family therapist dynamics. There’s a lot of papers written how depression can often lead to cancer, a lot of papers like a quarter of the papers.

00;04;08;14 – 00;04;38;18

Gabriel Cousens

But that’s so somebody comes in, maybe they had chemotherapy, maybe they had surgery, but they haven’t really done the work. They haven’t cleared their cause of depression, for example, which again is pretty very common. It’s very common. So I had a focus on that as a holistic approach. Then I talk about an overall natural lifestyle. We know there are some wild food clinics in the world.

00;04;38;18 – 00;05;15;08

Gabriel Cousens

I mean, the most famous is the Gerson Clinic back to the 1920s, Max Gerson. And there’s Brian Clements doing his work in Florida, apothecaries. So these are tried and true ways. So one of the issues is getting people to love themselves enough to want to help themselves. Chemotherapy, radiation is not exactly a loving thing unless you do the whole approach.

00;05;15;08 – 00;05;49;08

Gabriel Cousens

So keeping that in mind, what’s the approach? Well, many, many people, as I said, are depressed. So if I’m not addressing the depression and doing, you know, teaching people to meditate and doing kind of psycho spiritual work where they can able to start to love themselves again and get to the source of the depression. So the outcomes are not going to be so well because depression and physiology, the key is depression is not a mental state only.

00;05;49;08 – 00;06;21;28

Gabriel Cousens

It’s a mental emotional, but also it’s a physiological state. And if we don’t address that by relieving the the psychic and mental emotional levels, that takes you into our physiology that tends to create recurrence, which is like really the big issue. So yeah, I can tell you in 45 years, I don’t know, one or two people died of cancer.

00;06;22;29 – 00;06;54;24

Gabriel Cousens

You know, in the big picture or in terms of recurrence or people trying to do know natural healing. A lot of people do very well. Put it there. And everybody’s a little different because on top of everything else, you have body types and they respond differently, do things like I had a person, no way. She had a very malignant lymphoma type thing.

00;06;54;24 – 00;07;21;25

Gabriel Cousens

And she happened to be what we call phlegmatic, which had a very cough, a lot of watery in her system. And regular fasting didn’t seem to touch it. And we did a water fast. And that’s not something I usually do. But it fit her constitution. Cancer clears up and this is 20 years ago, right? She’s cancer free, 20 years, 24, you know, a long time.

00;07;22;14 – 00;07;28;02

Gabriel Cousens

But it didn’t work. And just this is said something.

00;07;28;04 – 00;07;43;12

Nathan Crane

Interesting how was the with the water fast with her I’m curious what I mean water fasting like that can bring out a lot of those emotional traumas and bring up that stored energy, that stored emotional.

00;07;44;09 – 00;07;45;15

Gabriel Cousens

And that’s the beauty.

00;07;46;04 – 00;07;47;04

Nathan Crane

During the fast.

00;07;47;19 – 00;08;16;28

Gabriel Cousens

Well the answer’s yes in urn site situation is we worked with it. I have a course called the zero point course. It helps you understand that we have created our thought forms that we believe are in control of us and we are able to break out of it by understanding we’re in control of them. Now, that’s a very short description and sure, things come up.

00;08;16;28 – 00;08;28;08

Gabriel Cousens

Things got clear. I mean, it was a 40 day word advanced. So that appears to be extreme. But it was exactly what that person needed.

00;08;28;16 – 00;08;28;26

Nathan Crane

Right.

00;08;29;10 – 00;08;47;24

Gabriel Cousens

Because if we just work on theory, we don’t quite get what’s needed. And again, she is clear of cancer lymphoma for at least 20 years. I think it’s really more like 25 years. Let me think about that. 25 years.

00;08;48;08 – 00;09;03;01

Nathan Crane

What gave you the was it just intuition or was it your what gave you that that kind of drive or that decision to say, you know what, let’s try to water fast to levels?

00;09;03;01 – 00;09;38;18

Gabriel Cousens

I was actually convinced that this is what’s needed. I saw that she was ready to go for it. Nothing else had particularly worked. And so you have a person who’s very willing to do whatever is needed. And in the setting she was just here and I worked with her is Hillary. Those are the two decision you have to have a person is their prescription is like this is the obvious thing to do and you game for it.

00;09;38;18 – 00;09;43;02

Nathan Crane

Yeah. Are you willing to commit to what it takes for healing? Right. Yeah.

00;09;43;07 – 00;09;51;00

Gabriel Cousens

And she was. And that’s how you make that decision. And don’t just say, go do this. And it’s about somebody said.

00;09;51;14 – 00;10;12;23

Nathan Crane

Well, and for a lot of people to write, if you’re going to do a water fest, you should be with somebody like you, somebody to support you. Because for some people, that could be quite dangerous, right? Yes, they are. And you know, all that stuff. So yeah, not encouraging everyone watch just to go to do a 40 day fast on your own.

00;10;13;11 – 00;10;46;16

Gabriel Cousens

Yeah. And the point she did while we were there it is supported every day because she was you know, that connection and it cleared done. Okay so that’s what people would say would be more extreme. But the point is that was the right thing for her constitution. Nothing else is really going to touch it, even reduce this. So making decisions like that for people do require a total picture.

00;10;46;16 – 00;11;16;02

Gabriel Cousens

So we look at your mental state. We know that people who have connections with other people are going to live longer and mean a little bit more than woman believe that have been made. More social connection or more women have more social connection. So those connections are very important. And in this case, eventually this is part of that process where they actually did get married.

00;11;16;21 – 00;12;05;07

Gabriel Cousens

So, you know, but we’re working, we create the social network. So that’s just an example. Other examples are the biggest struggle for a lot of people is just doing what’s the best diet. So we work on the emotions, so there isn’t that negative, negative emotion, there isn’t that depression. And I use a variety of things nutritional we never use in depressants or anything like that because they actually have a certain downside that may be connected to depression and it actually can cause depression, suicide, the rate of go that depending in the research is 2 to 4 times more depression, suicide and depressive descent.

00;12;05;14 – 00;12;07;02

Gabriel Cousens

Really just 2 to 3.

00;12;07;02 – 00;12;10;20

Nathan Crane

Times more says, can you say that statistic.

00;12;10;20 – 00;12;18;07

Gabriel Cousens

Again? 2 to 4 times more suicide or depression on antidepressants.

00;12;19;07 – 00;12;24;08

Nathan Crane

Than people who are depressed but are not taking into it? Correct. Wow.

00;12;24;08 – 00;13;03;28

Gabriel Cousens

Holy cow. If you look at the homicides and suicides out there, like all those shootings, almost every word that some kind of in a depressive of some sort. So it’s an upside down statistic that you just like. That doesn’t make sense, but it does happen. So we try to rebalance the neurotransmitters with nutrition and neurotransmitter precursors to bring that up and then look at the psycho spiritual things, to deal with the psycho spiritual aspects that are going to cause the depression.

00;13;04;29 – 00;13;35;27

Gabriel Cousens

Okay. So those are two levels there. We look at the lifestyle. What’s a lifestyle that makes you feel good, that makes you that helps you love yourself enough to heal yourself? So we clear the emotional negativities and the mental negativities and then how do we bring people into a supported lifestyle that that’s really important? So that’s where we got to the live food initially.

00;13;35;27 – 00;14;18;27

Gabriel Cousens

So near with cancer, we’re going to be 100% likelihood. We really don’t have a margin. The idea, newly recommend, 100% vegan and 80% match with and the research is pretty good about the whole cancer prevention of a life food vegan diet even to the point of men in their forties, for example. We know that they have twice as much mortality and four times as much cancer.

00;14;19;27 – 00;14;55;02

Gabriel Cousens

Okay, so diet goes right to that. We’re talking, you know, colorectal cancer, pancreas cancer, just a variety of cancers. Stomach cancer is a big one to these. So the diet cuts through a lot of that and also stimulates you neurotransmitters to come in the bowels, which is a very interesting thing, which I’ve just discovered in the last maybe five years looking at why somebody do better, maybe they stop taking the symptoms, why are they doing well?

00;14;55;14 – 00;15;40;03

Gabriel Cousens

They stayed on the list with diet and then I checked the neurotransmitters and it’s like, wow, they’re back in balance. My goodness. Is now it’s great. So we the diet then, as I say, is a 100% life food until the cancer is gone. Okay, then I like it will stay in it for a little bit longer than that in their process to if they have diabetes, diabetes is associated with a much greater rate of cancer because sugar feed cancer will be more specific.

00;15;40;03 – 00;16;15;10

Gabriel Cousens

Cancer cells love glucose ten times more than they the normal cells and cancer cells love fructose ten times more than they love glucose. So we’ve got a ten. So basically cancer cells are fructose like 100 times more than glucose. So we’re really very important. Sugar is a huge stimulant to cancer and that means fruit. Sugar as well.

00;16;15;10 – 00;16;34;20

Gabriel Cousens

So we know we know what how many fructose in the diet. And so that’s, again, an important little piece to that story. So if you go on a banana diet, you know, everybody’s different. But by and large, it’s not going to serve you because it’s too much fruit dose.

00;16;36;04 – 00;17;13;09

Nathan Crane

So you wrote I know you wrote a book called There Is a Cure for Diabetes. Right. And there was also a documentary film I remember about. Yes. Number of years back. And basically tracking people coming in with diabetes, changing primarily their diet right to a life foods based low glycaemic diet and then basically diabetes being reversed. And just like a few weeks, can you talk a little bit more about that, really what happened and then that relationship to the Life Foods diet relationship to cancer as well?

00;17;13;09 – 00;17;22;06

Nathan Crane

Because the low glycaemic, the low sugar aspect of it is obviously very important, right.

00;17;22;06 – 00;17;53;07

Gabriel Cousens

So the study I did with 120 people showed that 61% of the non insulin dependent type two diabetics healed in three weeks, which is the blood sugar less than 100. Okay. So that was really good. 24% of insulin dependent people healed in three weeks. Again, no medications, no insulin in our blood sugar, less than 100.

00;17;53;16 – 00;17;55;11

Nathan Crane

You totally off their insulin.

00;17;55;22 – 00;17;59;26

Gabriel Cousens

Totally off their it’s totally off and it’s.

00;17;59;29 – 00;18;01;10

Nathan Crane

Type two diabetes.

00;18;01;26 – 00;18;23;03

Gabriel Cousens

Yeah. And it tattoos important the truth is and a kind of a surprise to me and I don’t want to get a little lost here is that 21% of type one diabetics also held off all insulin, which seemed impossible to me at the time until I had observed it.

00;18;23;21 – 00;18;25;23

Nathan Crane

Well, but now it’s just three weeks also.

00;18;26;06 – 00;18;56;29

Gabriel Cousens

Yeah. And I didn’t. I didn’t I did not have that expectation. Okay. I do expect people with type two diabetes within three weeks, a high percentage will. And basically we found that 86.4% were off all medications of the type two who were on insulin. So no oral medication. So that’s pretty good result for three weeks and it continues to get better after the three weeks.

00;18;57;06 – 00;19;25;07

Gabriel Cousens

So three weeks is a very, very fast time to hear when we’re told by the American Diabetic Association it isn’t helpful and it’s a slow down hill path to death of 10 to 19 years earlier. Now, the other thing that most people don’t understand and realize in terms of cancer, that the percentages of cancer with diabetics are much, much higher.

00;19;26;03 – 00;19;54;05

Gabriel Cousens

Okay. The particular areas where we’re looking at cancer, the heart hotspots are going to be cancer of the pancreas, cancer of the stomach, colorectal cancer, cancer the endometrial and cancer, the prostate. Okay, those are your big players where you were likely to get cancer from diabetes because it isn’t just like you’re low in sugar with the fact it’s our body makes sugar.

00;19;54;05 – 00;20;21;29

Gabriel Cousens

Okay? After a certain age, you are a certain enzyme three six. Well, doesn’t matter with the enzyme it so we get to, you know, actually make sugar and we have to reset that. And we also use a coffee being an extract that has chlorogenic acid that blacks the enzyme in the liver that makes sugar. So now we do have to deal with lowering sugar.

00;20;21;29 – 00;20;56;11

Gabriel Cousens

We have to stop a body’s production of endogenous sugar. A little tricky, but yet the key is people with diabetes have a much, much higher rate of cancer risk. I think it’s stomach cancer. If your blood sugars a hundred or above is like around 100, okay. There’s 238% increase. That’s just an example. I’m just pulling it off, you know, that kind of statistic.

00;20;56;20 – 00;21;29;09

Gabriel Cousens

So the point I’m making is while we’re talking about a physiological state, we’re actually producing sugar where glucose and fructose are actually stimulating cancer production. And that’s why diabetes controlling, healing, diabetes that control you minimal low blood sugar. In one afternoon, 70 to 85, but less than 100 is considered diabetic. So we have to kind of go with that as a agreed thing.

00;21;29;09 – 00;22;03;15

Gabriel Cousens

So those are kind of a parameter right now. Diabetes is has a much higher percentage going to cancer because our blood sugar is above 100. You see in about 110, the beta cells of the pancreas start to die off. So we now have more problems. The beta cells of the pancreas make insulin. So if they’re dying off, we have a bigger problem.

00;22;04;14 – 00;22;11;17

Gabriel Cousens

So that’s why healing diabetes in treating cancer is very, very important.

00;22;13;03 – 00;22;21;04

Nathan Crane

So what is that? So the diet is pretty much the same thing for both, right? Well, or would you talk more about the.

00;22;21;09 – 00;22;22;04

Gabriel Cousens

Very slight.

00;22;22;04 – 00;22;26;28

Nathan Crane

Variations? Yeah. What would that look like for diabetes and then for cancer?

00;22;27;09 – 00;23;05;29

Gabriel Cousens

Basically, start with the life food, 100% life food 100% plant based. That’s where we go as our baseline for diabetes. I don’t make more than 25 to 35% carbohydrate. That’s the key. 10 to 15% protein, 30 40% plant fat. Okay. So that’s a that’s basically the diet for the diabetes, depending on the person you’re dealing with for the cancer, that may be the diet close to that 25 to 35%.

00;23;05;29 – 00;23;10;06

Gabriel Cousens

We’re talking about carbohydrate. I’m talking salads, right.

00;23;10;14 – 00;23;12;02

Nathan Crane

Fruit, right.

00;23;12;03 – 00;23;20;28

Gabriel Cousens

Absolutely fruit. But I’m talking about vegetables. That is what we’re, you know, nuts and seeds. Yeah. And see vegetables.

00;23;20;28 – 00;23;24;09

Nathan Crane

People do deal with this. Not many grains.

00;23;25;12 – 00;23;26;02

Gabriel Cousens

No grains.

00;23;26;11 – 00;23;26;29

Nathan Crane

No grains.

00;23;28;03 – 00;23;44;13

Gabriel Cousens

Grains pretty much convert to sugar. Yeah. And the other thing is the gluten is a very big irritant to the nervous system brain. You know, the grain kind of type of approach. So no grains whatsoever.

00;23;44;24 – 00;23;53;28

Nathan Crane

I want to before you continue, I want to for those who don’t know what a live food diet is, can you just briefly explain that?

00;23;55;10 – 00;24;24;16

Gabriel Cousens

Okay. A life who die in the way I’m talking about is plant based only or people who call it vegan? No meat. Fish, chicken or dairy or eggs. People think eggs are all about protein. But the fact is, with diabetes, one egg a week will increase the rate of diabetes by 76%. Two eggs equal double your rate of diabetes as well.

00;24;24;19 – 00;24;49;13

Gabriel Cousens

So eggs are a big deal here. It’s that’s a long story. You know, I don’t want to get off track onto it. So those are things we don’t hear. Well, what have we had left? Okay. For life, food, mostly grains. You have to cook grain and then there also convert to sugar. So initially I called phase one and phase one, 1.5 and phase two.

00;24;49;24 – 00;25;24;05

Gabriel Cousens

So it’s phase one, which is the diet for diabetes, the diet for cancer. We’re doing nuts and seeds. See vegetables and sprouts, which is a big part of the diet and pretty much all the vegetables you wore, but not overdoing it. And beets and carrots, they’re a little bit more glycaemic and that’s it. Then once your heels from that, then you can add things like lentils and beans, things like that.

00;25;25;08 – 00;25;40;00

Gabriel Cousens

So that’s basically the diet in many. We have many, many recipes. I mean, really, it’s actually it sounds little contract, but actually when you get into it, it’s an unlimited amount of stuff.

00;25;40;10 – 00;26;08;23

Nathan Crane

It’s infinite and you can make it very delicious. Yeah. I want people to tuning in to know that like my wife and I and our daughter, we were on a 100%, you know, raw living life food diet for about a year, very strict, 100% organic as well. And , you know, the recipe books that you have great recipes in your books, there’s so many recipes out there was a dehydrator in a blender.

00;26;09;04 – 00;26;33;16

Nathan Crane

Right. You can make pizzas and you can make, you know, pastas and you can make whatever you want from nuts and seeds and vegetables and fruits and stuff that taste really delicious but is incredibly healthy. It’s you have to learn to cook in a new way if you want to be creative. Right. But it doesn’t. The life food diet for those who might be a little bit scared right now is not.

00;26;33;26 – 00;26;41;03

Nathan Crane

You can only eat a carrot and cabbage water out every day. I mean, it’s one way to do it. That’s not the way you have to do it.

00;26;41;14 – 00;27;10;22

Gabriel Cousens

You can have a good time do it. When I did the initial recipes in in 1986 for rainbow real life cuisine, I mean, the Rainbow Diet, I wouldn’t put a recipe in. It took me more than 10 minutes to do, and I did that with courtesy in 1990. That was a first edition of the book No Recipes.

00;27;11;03 – 00;27;30;01

Gabriel Cousens

It took me more than 10 minutes. And you know, I’m not a chef necessarily, but there’s lots of good things and it’s really not that hard. It does really help to get some training. And at this point, there’s a lot of people around who are training people on how to prepare their food.

00;27;30;15 – 00;27;42;28

Nathan Crane

Someone starting down this path. What which book of yours would you recommend with with those recipes? The Rainbow Diet. I would suggest people start their.

00;27;44;03 – 00;27;56;05

Gabriel Cousens

To diets because we’re thinking cancer prevention. I would definitely use the diabetes recipes. So to get a C mix. So there is a cure for diabetes addition to.

00;27;56;19 – 00;27;57;15

Nathan Crane

Addition to.

00;27;57;24 – 00;28;32;10

Gabriel Cousens

Good. And the other one conscious eating is a lot of good recipes with the rainbow green light food cuisine is another one. So they all have different sets of recipes that are obviously some overlaps. But the probably in terms of the cancer, we want to look towards the there is a cure for diabetes. There’s a little bit of cook food in that because once you’re cured, then you can go back to, you know, 100% being in but 80% life.

00;28;32;10 – 00;28;58;24

Nathan Crane

That’s, you know, that’s where we’re at now we’re not quite at 80% alive food I’m probably more around 50% but significantly more than when I before I started the life food diet years ago when we did 100%, I was probably at 10% or 20%. And now I’m closer to 50 or 60% and I’m in a little bit different case.

00;28;58;24 – 00;29;22;24

Nathan Crane

I’m training as an athlete right now. I work out, you know, multiple hours a day, you know, running and swimming and weightlifting. So carbohydrates, higher carbohydrates and higher protein for me is, you know, is valuable versus and if I can get that from real living foods to which I get a lot of it from that, then it’s even more beneficial.

00;29;22;26 – 00;29;28;27

Nathan Crane

Right? But someone dealing with a chronic disease that’s you know, you have to make big changes quick.

00;29;28;28 – 00;30;03;02

Gabriel Cousens

You have a bigger agenda and a bigger urgency. Yeah. Just to point out that I really add for 100% of 1983. Okay, when I was 60, did 601 consecutive push ups. Okay. And the sixth day of a fast and at 75 I’m close to 7675 without any training or anything. I did 300 plus push ups. So is that something you could do with all your training?

00;30;03;15 – 00;30;10;13

Nathan Crane

That’s awesome. And year and you are how many years? 100%. Life. You’ve done it now.

00;30;10;28 – 00;30;18;26

Gabriel Cousens

Yeah. Well, since 83 so it’s about 30, 36 years that.

00;30;19;08 – 00;30;37;05

Nathan Crane

36 years as well. And that’s incredible. I mean, unfortunately in our society now, people in their seventies are having a hard time walking around and yet you’re flying all over the world. You’re doing hundreds of push-ups. You’re teaching, you know, weeks at a time. You’re, you know, totally mobile, active, like.

00;30;37;16 – 00;30;40;21

Gabriel Cousens

I can sit in full lotus for an extended period of time.

00;30;41;06 – 00;30;47;16

Nathan Crane

Yeah, that’s incredible. It’s a true testament to what you’re doing. Absolutely. And I even.

00;30;47;16 – 00;30;48;22

Gabriel Cousens

Hit 100 pull ups.

00;30;49;11 – 00;30;55;27

Nathan Crane

Wow. I consecutive. I’m there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn’t do that right now. Right.

00;30;56;04 – 00;31;16;08

Gabriel Cousens

That’s what I’m saying. So what I’m saying is you can do this in the last thing. Yeah, I’ve cut the pull ups down to 70 right now. One time, two times in an hour because it stressed me elbows a little bit. But, you know, you don’t want to overdo it. 17 is a lot. That’s all I talk.

00;31;16;08 – 00;31;23;04

Nathan Crane

I did ten right now. So yeah that’s no that’s incredible. And it’s a testament to.

00;31;23;07 – 00;31;52;00

Gabriel Cousens

So the point is I’m this kind of diet and for me, my physiology is a lower protein diet. Maybe my protein intakes, 12%, ten under 12%. And if it works, I will say something that’s really important for people to understand, because excess protein has been associated with increased cancer rates.

00;31;52;10 – 00;31;52;21

Nathan Crane

Right.

00;31;53;11 – 00;32;27;04

Gabriel Cousens

Okay. So what we also know is, again, I mentioned men in their middle age or say 45 to 60, okay, have four times more cancer. And but after that, around age 65, then we actually need a little bit more protein. So it’s a moving kind of target, if you see what I’m saying, that it actually like with the pull-ups I was used to and 25 okay, which is a lot for most people.

00;32;27;16 – 00;33;04;04

Gabriel Cousens

And when I realized I needed a touch more protein, which is one tablespoon of spirulina, I mean blue green algae. E three Then I went up to 50 and then like 100 within a few months, all I need is one tablespoon, more protein. So the adjustment is very little. So what I’m trying to say, okay, the optimum protein for longevity connected to what we call the M tau pathway is between 35 and 70 grams a day.

00;33;05;02 – 00;33;13;14

Gabriel Cousens

So people get longevity and anti-cancer if you stay in that range, 35 to 70 grams a day.

00;33;13;17 – 00;33;20;01

Nathan Crane

Now, 35 to 70 grams. Is that range that big dependent on your body weight then?

00;33;20;16 – 00;33;49;11

Gabriel Cousens

No, no, I understand what you’re asking. I’m talking about your metabolic substitution. So I’m a person doesn’t need much protein. That’s probably doing 8%. Okay, then I up to maybe going to a 12% now. Okay. So but that puts me at the 35 to 70 and more like 35. I don’t count calories too much. I just made a shift, you know, just adding a tablespoon or more.

00;33;50;22 – 00;33;56;10

Gabriel Cousens

So that’s what I’m trying to say. That range is the anti-cancer range.

00;33;57;14 – 00;34;01;23

Nathan Crane

How do you how do you determine your metabolic would you call it your metabolic cost?

00;34;01;23 – 00;34;31;08

Gabriel Cousens

Write your constitution. So get that we’re not cows. Got to start there. Okay. Where the cows are they grass. Okay. They don’t have a big variation in their diet. Okay. Now that being said, it is a genetic thing and chromosome 19, it actually shows depending on the gene alignment, how much protein, how much fat and how much carbohydrate.

00;34;32;03 – 00;35;03;09

Gabriel Cousens

So it’s a physiological thing. It’s not a theoretical thing that makes sense. Chromosome 19 So how do you know how much you should eat now? It’s a pretty important question. So I’ll go to my website, doctor, because it’s like by universal request I have an interview. People take fast oxidizer, slow oxidizer. Fast access person means higher protein and fat.

00;35;03;18 – 00;35;29;26

Gabriel Cousens

Most carbohydrate slow oxidizer is a person that needs a little bit more carbohydrate and less protein and fat. If it’s 15 and 15, you’re kind of in the middle there. Okay, so if you’re going 35 to 70, maybe you’re at 60 grams of protein, you’re in the middle. If you’re 20 and ten, fast access, then you’re going to be closer to 70 grams of protein a day.

00;35;30;06 – 00;35;31;14

Gabriel Cousens

Does that make sense, what I’m saying?

00;35;32;04 – 00;35;41;23

Nathan Crane

Yeah. So that so that’s so determining where you’re at, whether you’re slow or fast that something on your website that we can.

00;35;41;23 – 00;35;46;12

Gabriel Cousens

Yes, it’s it’s the fast slow oxidizer chart now.

00;35;46;12 – 00;35;48;12

Nathan Crane

It’s a chart. Okay, great. Yeah.

00;35;48;12 – 00;35;51;03

Gabriel Cousens

So you can ask the questions. There’s 30 questions.

00;35;52;09 – 00;35;54;23

Nathan Crane

Is that is that the health intake form or is it.

00;35;54;26 – 00;35;57;03

Gabriel Cousens

No, that’s 33 pages.

00;35;57;11 – 00;35;58;11

Nathan Crane

Okay. We’ll find that.

00;35;58;26 – 00;35;59;21

Gabriel Cousens

One page.

00;36;01;13 – 00;36;05;16

Nathan Crane

Or find a link to it and we’ll put it, we’ll put it on under this. Yeah.

00;36;05;24 – 00;36;32;03

Gabriel Cousens

So let’s suddenly make your life better, okay. Because now, you know, my person needs more protein or less protein, and I ask it both ways. Why? Well, because it’s a double check on yourself, so you’re far too slow. Oxidizer. Processed oxidizer. One slow is less protein and less protein. A fat, more complex carbohydrate fast is more protein and fat, those kind of products.

00;36;32;21 – 00;37;24;25

Gabriel Cousens

I am not talking about animal protein here, okay. Because that has all kinds of problems and it’s higher. And I see in the finding which actually disrupt the M tau pathway or longevity pathway and are associated with well, less of that less overall health. So making the point we need to kind of make it will make it simple for people to sort of say and then when you take the meat out, it’s way better because of the percentages of, you know, 3.6 times more prostate cancer, four times more breast cancer, 2 to 3 times more colon cancer.¬†

00;37;24;25 – 00;37;41;18

Gabriel Cousens

And it goes on that. Okay. But the point is going vegan cuts to all of that. It just really is an important piece to decrease your chances of getting cancer and increases your five year recovery.

00;37;42;14 – 00;37;59;11

Nathan Crane

So what? So what is can you talk a little bit more on what is the difference between plant protein versus animal protein for humans versus a carnivore like a wolf who’s going to eat, you know, or a cat, which is a true carnivore.

00;37;59;25 – 00;38;01;11

Gabriel Cousens

Cat that you kind of or you know.

00;38;01;22 – 00;38;11;29

Nathan Crane

Which is one of the really only true carnivores, I think is a cat species. Right. So yeah. So what is that difference between plant protein and animal protein for humans?

00;38;12;18 – 00;38;50;11

Gabriel Cousens

I think the most important difference in terms not in terms of diabetes. No, but in terms of overall is inflammation. The animal protein is a thing called five, g, C, M, something like that. And it’s an L, it’s a sugar actually that the body gets allergic to. It’s an animal protein and then you get inflammation. So information’s probably the number one.

00;38;50;11 – 00;39;26;06

Gabriel Cousens

The second thing and then I assume that you and your wife were on two life foods before you had a baby. Okay, so what we know is that people doing just me, okay? Just vegan, vegetarian, vegan have about 1 to 2% the amount of pesticides and herbicides in their breast milk. Okay, so are meeting mother is going to have literally 98% more pesticides and herbicides, which we know are carcinogens.

00;39;27;14 – 00;40;07;01

Gabriel Cousens

So you used the word organic before. I consider that absolutely critical because in the picture. And but even if you urged the pesticides and herbicides to accumulate in the animal fat a lot more than in plant fat, because you’re higher in the food chain. So you have significantly less pesticides and herbicides, significantly less information. I would say in the big picture, those are the two big things we do know that people eat meat are 25 to 35% more likely to get type two diabetes.

00;40;07;26 – 00;40;49;00

Gabriel Cousens

Now, I use that because I don’t have all the statistics on that for cancer, but we know diabetes increases the rate of cancer because its sugar and so forth and the meat protein breaks down into carbohydrate. So there are some subtle but not so subtle differences here. What it doesn’t hold for plant protein. So, however, did a study were like 123,000 people and they found that people who had hot dogs and junk food meat had a 20% increase in heart disease.

00;40;50;16 – 00;41;34;00

Gabriel Cousens

If you’re just doing they didn’t use order, get it? But, you know, better quality meat, meat, fish, chicken. Then that was a 13% increase, which is huge. 20% is one out of five. So you definitely decrease your rate of cancer by eating lower in the food chain for a variety of reasons. But the simple thing is think inflammation and think it’s five any you G something like that that is a special sugar in meat that our bodies allergic so and then excess protein in general tends to stimulate cancer as well.

00;41;34;18 – 00;41;37;27

Gabriel Cousens

So those are kind of the bigger differences.

00;41;38;10 – 00;42;03;04

Nathan Crane

So the other is the other side of I guess the plants in general is that, you know, most plants actually have anti-inflammatory properties to them. Yes, you’re getting protein that is not inflammation causing and you’re getting anti-inflammatory. Yes, flatulence as well. So yeah, that’s really fascinating.

00;42;03;16 – 00;42;08;27

Gabriel Cousens

What the big thing is going vegan you’re going to lower your inflammation.

00;42;09;23 – 00;42;19;10

Nathan Crane

And why food vegan. Right. We want to emphasize that because someone could go to the store and buy ice cream and chips and garbage and call themselves vegan. Still it.

00;42;19;11 – 00;42;21;01

Gabriel Cousens

A vegetarian. Right? Right.

00;42;21;01 – 00;42;23;00

Nathan Crane

And still totally be unhealthy. Right.

00;42;23;00 – 00;42;55;23

Gabriel Cousens

So we’re talking about healthy diet. That’s why Dr. Benjamin Spock, I remember coach is parenting. I say to him because he’s saying, raise your kids vegan. Obviously, we’re talking healthy vegan. And one of his main reasons is it’s a lifestyle that prevents cancer, cancer and diabetes. And so definitely a lifestyle that prevents cancer that that’s pretty significant. That’s how I would say it.

00;42;55;23 – 00;43;28;18

Gabriel Cousens

No, that’s the world’s he’s not alive anymore. But, you know, in the 1990s, the top nutrition world saying, yeah, vegan diet. And it sets the tone for our kids for the rest of their lives to eat a cancer preventing diet, which is a much obviously protein. Meat protein stimulates meat, fish and chicken sandwich cancer and stimulates obesity and so forth.

00;43;28;18 – 00;43;39;06

Gabriel Cousens

So you’re minimizing your chronic disease tendencies. So, Mr. Spock, most people don’t know that. I was shocked that it’s like, well.

00;43;40;06 – 00;43;48;17

Nathan Crane

Yeah, I mean, that’s so, so important. I mean, I have two children and obviously I want them to grow up healthy and be healthy and prevent getting cancer.

00;43;48;17 – 00;43;50;16

Gabriel Cousens

So that’s the real concept.

00;43;50;25 – 00;44;05;01

Nathan Crane

Yeah. That’s why we, you know, we do, you know, 90 plus percent organic. We do 100% plant based. We do at least 50% plus life foods. So yeah.

00;44;05;14 – 00;44;30;06

Gabriel Cousens

I the life that we have, you know, the plant base is wide and organic is another in the concept of lower on the food chain minimizing pesticides and herbicides no matter and also radiation and pesticides and herbicides are about 30 times higher in the animal food based diet.

00;44;30;25 – 00;44;49;08

Nathan Crane

So what about this? Have you heard of kind of the I might call it a fad, I don’t know, the blood type diet and where they draw your blood and then tell you like you need a meat diet because of your blood type. Do you know much about that?

00;44;49;08 – 00;45;17;19

Gabriel Cousens

Well, it’s that it is a fad and it’s really misinformation. It’s been seriously debunked by every holistic physician I know. Why? Well, first, they’re saying typos need to eat meat. That’s one of their premises. Okay. They need to have more stomach acid. They need to be more precise. The fact that I’m a type of I don’t believe me.

00;45;17;25 – 00;45;53;06

Gabriel Cousens

But when I ask, you know, people who are in the vegan movement, how many type those 50%. Okay. So it doesn’t the typo does not need to eat meat. Second are a very well-known ortho molecular medical doctor actually did a study of typos typing babies and so forth, checking their stomach. Yes, it’s really the same for everybody.

00;45;53;06 – 00;46;24;27

Gabriel Cousens

Okay. So typos don’t have more ass and they don’t need to eat meat. That’s just plain bogus. No. What else is bogus? Well, the original idea, and I have it in my book kind of Ceiling, is that it is true that certain blood types having a certain response to certain foods, we call them lectins, not elections, but lectins.

00;46;24;27 – 00;46;55;03

Gabriel Cousens

Okay. And if you’re type so you can’t you shouldn’t have more than 5% sunflower seeds in your diet or at one meal only because it will create an antibody antigen inflammation reaction if you type B, then you’re looking at sesame seeds as being a thing. The point I’m making is there’s a little bit of truth, but they missed whole thing.

00;46;55;25 – 00;47;21;17

Gabriel Cousens

They I think they made some things up because none of that fits with the world literature. So in my book purchasing, I actually list what the world literature says about Lectins. Okay? And they say the meat isn’t really an issue. Also you type well, yes. You shouldn’t eat boa constrictors. Well, that’s not my problem. Most people, the United States are not going to be eating.

00;47;21;17 – 00;48;03;11

Gabriel Cousens

But the point I’m making is typos may have a tendency to create an antibody antigen reaction with boa constrictor. Hmm. Okay. So they have a tendency to create an antibody index with sunflower seeds. Okay, no, no. You’re getting an idea, so there’s a little truth to it, but not what they’re talking about. Okay. The research is really a fairly good and people who were like where they copied some of their information from but distorted it, you know, are very unhappy that that happened.

00;48;03;12 – 00;48;31;11

Gabriel Cousens

I don’t want to mention names to do that, but the point I’m making is eating it according to your blood type has some validity, but not much. And it’s more about getting an allergy reaction type. Typos are going to live longer. You know, whatever they’re doing, they’re going to live longer. And then and then BS and then A’s and ABS.

00;48;31;29 – 00;48;40;20

Gabriel Cousens

The lifespan generally is longer. So you hear these stories about so many and drink and eat meat and has their whiskey every day. They’re probably a typo.

00;48;41;25 – 00;49;14;14

Nathan Crane

And maybe and maybe they’re I mean, something you said early on in in our conversation was just the importance of having really deep, meaningful relationships. I mean, we know that by itself is so powerful in longevity of human beings. Right? And so sometimes as people who do eat and drink can basically have the worst diet in the world, they may have one or two of the best relationships you could ever ask for, and that supports their longevity.

00;49;14;14 – 00;49;41;00

Gabriel Cousens

But here’s the point to it. You want what I call a holistic yes. Operation. You can’t say, well, I have a good relationship, therefore flying around the world. Right. That’s kind of avoiding. But I think the key is e right for your blood type. There is another book out, you know, there’s the blood type diet, but there’s another book called Eat Right Treat That.

00;49;41;10 – 00;50;09;04

Gabriel Cousens

And they actually are much more serious about it and they kind of talk the way I talk about it. I also point out that people with the same blood type tend to have a thermal reaction. So it’s a much higher percentage of people of those who will marry those in ABS, maybe 4% of the population. But there’s a very high percentage of abs who marry abs.

00;50;09;24 – 00;50;39;15

Gabriel Cousens

So there’s some fair mode, there’s some chemistry. So we’re not denying, there isn’t some something going on. But what they’re talking about really isn’t true. You do not need to be a mediator with any of these diets. It’s really bogus, you know. But all the different blood types have slightly different things. Like, for example, Tiger, I don’t do well with soy as to type B’s, so it’s not so good.

00;50;40;10 – 00;51;02;05

Gabriel Cousens

Okay, A’s can do a little bit better. You see where I’m going with that, right? None of the blood types do well with eggs. That’s the most reactive. So there’s some truth and they kind of turn it into not a very good scientific kind of statement about it. So I’m kind of seeing two things here.

00;51;02;14 – 00;51;26;21

Nathan Crane

Yeah, got it. Beautiful. Yeah. Thank you for clarifying that, because I’ve had some questions about it myself and I’ve had, you know, very well respected health educators. You know, huge followings, people I trust and respect as well. Then talk about how they were told they have to eat meat. So that’s why they eat meat. And I was just like, wait a minute, all the research I’ve seen does not show that at all.

00;51;26;21 – 00;51;30;02

Nathan Crane

So yeah, thank you for clarifying that kind of way.

00;51;30;02 – 00;51;58;13

Gabriel Cousens

And this going to say one more thing about me. We’re Javadi because that’s what we’re talking about here. Vegan meals, you know, plant based diet by males. They live 7.2 years longer, which is huge. And vegan females are 4.4 years longer, longevity wise know and it doesn’t matter what else you’re doing just doing that, you’re going to add years to your life.

00;51;58;26 – 00;52;32;06

Gabriel Cousens

Let’s be near again. I’m well so those are just things but the whole idea is we don’t want to eat an inflammatory diet. Inflammation is the driving force behind all chronic disease, cancer and type two diabetes. Inflammation is your problem. We have to eat in a way that minimizes it. Lower on the food chain based diet will significantly minimize the inflammation.

00;52;32;24 – 00;52;36;17

Gabriel Cousens

That’s like a really key bigger picture when your study.

00;52;36;29 – 00;53;06;19

Nathan Crane

Yeah that’s huge. It’s important. So shifting a little bit here, I know you’ve I mean, you’re your spiritual teacher. You teach meditation, but you’ve been teaching for many years. I know you’re also do a lot of work with Native Americans and you do a lot of work in Israel. And I know a big focus of yours now as well is shifting deeper and deeper into the spiritual teachings.

00;53;06;19 – 00;53;13;26

Nathan Crane

And how does spirituality play a role in healing diseases in the body it play?

00;53;14;00 – 00;53;44;10

Gabriel Cousens

Spirituality plays a huge role because simple statement. You need to love yourself enough to want to heal yourself. Okay, well, how do you go about loving yourself? Well, it is. The way you begin to love yourself is when you’re meditating, you touch into the higher levels in the mind are what we call a non of my culture, which is the bliss body.

00;53;45;11 – 00;54;13;09

Gabriel Cousens

And you begin to have really positive associations with your inner self and then you understand this is self of all, so you start to reconnect with your soul. If we look at our society today, which is something to be concerned about, why do people feel really disconnect from their souls and do whatever they do and what we do with meditation?

00;54;13;09 – 00;54;38;07

Gabriel Cousens

That’s why I’m now moving towards what I call meditation liberation retreats, which we just had our very first one, very exciting, really. Well, it’s very easy to do. We’re meditating three times a day, an hour, three times a day, getting shocked, depressed. I wish active produce Shakti power is the awakening of the Kundalini energy. What does that mean?

00;54;38;27 – 00;55;15;01

Gabriel Cousens

Well, in Hebrew we say Raha Kadesh, the Holy Spirit. Different terms, same thing. It’s something that exists in all traditions, with different names. That’s the key. I use the Kundalini because most people know that term. That is the energetics of divine that are stored within us and to meditation and check your power, which I explain when it gets activated, begins through going through the whole body, realigning the chakras and the layers of the mind.

00;55;15;07 – 00;55;34;20

Gabriel Cousens

There’s six layers of the mind which is not linear to the body, different thing, but it realigns the layers of the body, layers of the mind, the chakras and what we call the 72,000 knowledge to which there’s three main bodies. You didn’t find out which the you know, the queen really moves the shoulder when all this is happening.

00;55;35;07 – 00;55;59;23

Gabriel Cousens

It is on a simple level, very, very healing brings up a lot of negative thoughts, words. But and the main point is you reconnect with you saw it. It deepens your connection with your soul. And that’s where the term love yourself enough to heal yourself. Because when you’re connected to your soul, you’re highly motivated to do the best for yourself.

00;56;00;29 – 00;56;29;02

Gabriel Cousens

And then something else happens. There’s the oversaw. So you have your soul which is your connection with the divine. But then you realize we’re all connected. A yoga we call Virago seeing the light of God in everyone equal. Okay. And also you’re able to distinguish what we call the Mecca. The difference between the temporal reality of this world and the cosmic reality.

00;56;29;12 – 00;56;55;29

Gabriel Cousens

And that gives you the bigger perspective that’s really important for cancer people. Again, bringing it back to the main topic here, because if you really have that bigger perspective, you end up in fear you would have all these kind of physiology that and depression because you haven’t touched into the truth of who you are, which is the ecstasy of the divine.

00;56;56;22 – 00;57;34;01

Gabriel Cousens

It’s like, wow, ecstasy. Each step forward and everything changes. So ultimately, no matter what happens, you are in ecstasy, you’re in the subtle bliss, you call it down. And that is a huge motivator to to want to love yourself enough to heal yourself. So we go back to foundation. So from a healing point of view, that’s good. My focus really around the world and I’ve been in 42 countries around the world, people come to the tree from over 128 different countries.

00;57;34;01 – 00;58;00;25

Gabriel Cousens

That’s a unifying factor for everybody, is that when you start to love yourself in that store and heal yourself, it’s like, whoa, your whole perspective changes not only for yourself, but for everyone around you. So we have this whole kind of healing and loving enhancement because you see the soul, the divine in everybody, not just yourself. You’re not separate.

00;58;00;25 – 00;58;23;04

Gabriel Cousens

What we see in our society is people aren’t seeing their own self and they’re seeing the soul another. So we acted very disrespectful ways, which is part of what we’re seeing in our societies. We got to bring the soul back into the into the thing to make it soul food. Yeah. And this is really soulful is what we’re talking about.

00;58;23;11 – 00;58;56;16

Gabriel Cousens

This eating and soul food is also meditating Shakti part which really enhances it’s about 90 where maybe 95% of the people who are at our last meditation are intensive, which was like two weeks ago, had the Kundalini awaken. Once that’s awakened, it empowers you for the desire for the Divine, empowers you to learn to heal yourself and deeply connect you.

00;58;56;16 – 00;59;26;09

Gabriel Cousens

So that’s powerful. So my focus is more that way. I try to is an energy transmission of energy. We have it the Hebrew tradition, which we call harmony how our smack of a Schaeffer and in the shack is the term in the yogic tradition where the master is you know, empowers you to actually be a transmitter for that lineage.

00;59;26;17 – 00;59;49;10

Gabriel Cousens

So looked inside that was my main guru in that yoga tradition literally empowered me to do it. They actually gave me his cushion and he was sitting it and I’m at the only, okay, I’m not claiming anything because I have to do what I have to do, which is wake up Israel, wake up to stuff around the world.¬†

00;59;49;10 – 01;00;18;11

Gabriel Cousens

But I’m pointing as you need that blessing, the explicit shock part, empowerment before you can do it. And that’s different than getting shock. You pardon the energies there. So that’s what I’m focusing on. We’re going to our next retreat is at the end of August. I limit it to three days, but we’re meditating three times a day and people are getting life food, which is enhances it.¬†

01;00;18;29 – 01;00;53;22

Gabriel Cousens

And then we have a lot of spiritual discussion because people kind of need it. It’s like, let’s call it Earth. Okay, so we combine kind of all those levels so people can kind of make the supporting lifestyle shifts. Anyone who really has cancer or is post cancer or even worried about it when they come, you know, that’s going to open them up for a lot of healing and a lot of positivity because again, you got to love yourself.

01;00;54;13 – 01;01;25;20

Gabriel Cousens

So actually meditation is a very powerful way to actually reverse depression as well as giving longevity because it enhances all your neurotransmitters, which and I’m saying the well-being neurotransmitters as well. So all that’s going on and that’s where I’m focusing, returning to what I like to do. I love seeing clients too, but I can’t do everything. So that’s why I stop seeing new clients as of April 19th, 2018.

01;01;26;05 – 01;01;37;22

Gabriel Cousens

So that’s an issue. But I continue to see clients and really focus on the teaching and the meditation practice part to work at as many people as possible.

01;01;37;22 – 01;01;41;04

Nathan Crane

Beautiful. Yeah. Where is the. Where is the retreat happening?

01;01;42;04 – 01;01;44;28

Gabriel Cousens

At the Tree of Life here in Patagonia, Arizona.

01;01;45;02 – 01;01;46;13

Nathan Crane

Oh, good. Okay.

01;01;46;13 – 01;02;13;01

Gabriel Cousens

Yeah. So we’re doing certain things, so we’ve shut down certain areas, but we’re actually expanding. So we’re at the oasis. We’re expanding the oasis. So we have a hall that can hold 70 people. I don’t like it too big, so there’s a lot for what I’m doing because it’s very personal and there has to be time and space for people to ask questions.

01;02;13;16 – 01;02;40;26

Gabriel Cousens

We go to a few hundred Brazil. I may have 400 people that can see, but I try to hold it here in a way, you know, and we’re putting in a little bit of a juice bar and snack because we serve the life food, you know, for meals. So people have to go out. So all that is happening in Patagonia, Arizona, that’s at the end of August, just 3 to 3 days a week in there.

01;02;41;10 – 01;02;49;06

Gabriel Cousens

But we’ll be doing that more and more as it expands. It’s simple and it’s totally to the point of things.

01;02;50;21 – 01;03;20;04

Nathan Crane

Beautiful. Well, listen, I know we’re at the end of our time, everybody tuning in. I hope you took notes and got a lot of really great insights from this interview. I just always appreciate connecting with you, Dr. Cousins, learning from you. I learned new things in our conversation today. I want to encourage people tuning in. You know, all the books that were mentioned, those are all available on Amazon.

01;03;20;16 – 01;03;33;00

Nathan Crane

Conscious eating, spiritual nutrition. There is a cure for diabetes, are conscious parenting, a lot of really great books that are highly suggested that start with one and go from there.

01;03;33;24 – 01;03;43;13

Gabriel Cousens

I actually are just sitting in today to a book called are into the nothing.

01;03;43;27 – 01;03;44;08

Nathan Crane

Are.

01;03;44;28 – 01;03;53;19

Gabriel Cousens

All I Ever Learned in life is full meditation playing football mom because we got to include the guys in this little bit.

01;03;54;11 – 01;03;54;21

Nathan Crane

Honestly.

01;03;54;26 – 01;04;12;08

Gabriel Cousens

It’s two women, two thirds women, one third men. Yeah, but the football as a football player in, you know, I want to open the space for guys to get more into it. So all I ever learned in life and spirituality came from football and meditation.

01;04;12;12 – 01;04;13;22

Nathan Crane

Which is that book coming up.

01;04;14;03 – 01;04;34;07

Gabriel Cousens

Well, I can’t tell you exactly. It’s it just depends what what the book publishers, how much work they feel has to be done. And so it’s up to them in a way, within the next year. I would say within the next year it may, but I would just actually turn it in today.

01;04;35;02 – 01;04;36;14

Nathan Crane

Good. You’re 14.

01;04;36;14 – 01;04;38;12

Gabriel Cousens

At it. 14 at it. So.

01;04;40;08 – 01;05;04;09

Nathan Crane

Okay, we’ll keep an eye out for it. Everybody tuning in. The best website suggests you go to this doctor cousins dot com it’s just the are cousins it’s SEO U.S.A. dot com we’ll put a link next to this video as well and there we’ll put the link. I found it as we were talking. It’s the determining the oxidizer profile.

01;05;04;13 – 01;05;06;26

Gabriel Cousens

That’s right. That’s right.

01;05;06;26 – 01;05;16;24

Nathan Crane

So we’ll put that link in there. You can fill that out and then join this newsletter and stay up to date about the events or retreats. Coming up, the different things that.

01;05;17;04 – 01;05;52;14

Gabriel Cousens

Yeah, I’m talking on different topics every day. Yeah. So for example, I just did one yesterday about the dangers of ultrasound during pregnancy. So whoever thought about that, but people ask about there are some dangers, but so have medical topics and spiritual topics, you know, the last one, which is a little intriguing, which is yesterday, which is we can ignore reality, but we can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.

01;05;53;01 – 01;05;57;14

Nathan Crane

I’m yeah, that’s a good way to look at it.

01;05;58;02 – 01;06;06;25

Gabriel Cousens

Yeah. So I am often talking a lot, but every I’d say five times a week something is going somewhere beautiful.

01;06;06;25 – 01;06;20;19

Nathan Crane

Well, thank you so much, darts cousins. Appreciate your time as always and just appreciate your wisdom. That you bring a lot of experience, a lot of wisdom, a lot of truths to the table. And yeah, I appreciate you so much.

01;06;21;01 – 01;06;30;19

Gabriel Cousens

Well, I appreciate what you’re doing. And I bless everyone who’s listening that they’d be inspired to love themselves enough to reveal themselves.

 

 

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