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Audio Transcript
(This transcript was auto-generated so there may be some errors)
00:00:00:03 – 00:00:01:16
Nathan Crane
Your picture is so serious.
00:00:03:13 – 00:00:05:21
Arturo Gaitan
It is.
00:00:10:20 – 00:00:13:15
Nathan Crane
And your beard is longer every time I see you.
00:00:14:16 – 00:00:18:21
Arturo Gaitan
Believe it or not, I cut it. I used to have it on the bellybutton and I cut it twice already.
00:00:19:03 – 00:00:23:02
Nathan Crane
Oh, my gosh. That thing grows like he’s blind.
00:00:23:02 – 00:00:23:20
Arturo Gaitan
Keeps going.
00:00:24:00 – 00:00:27:01
Nathan Crane
Keeps going. I don’t know.
00:00:27:01 – 00:00:41:13
Arturo Gaitan
I have no idea. Good, good man. I have no idea why I left that girl like this. I don’t know. Probably it was. I don’t know. Some philosopher or something in my past life, but I don’t like books anymore. So anyways.
00:00:41:18 – 00:00:53:07
Nathan Crane
Yeah. You look like. Like a tai chi master or something, you know, somebody from Asia, but the Qigong master philosopher from Asia.
00:00:54:11 – 00:01:19:17
Arturo Gaitan
Probably man. But at the airport they think differently. I just went the other day to a a month ago I would have to go to pick up a Koran. San Jose and this lady from TSA saw me and she told the other guys, she pointed at me and I’m like, I probably look like a Saudi or something or terrorists or something, but it was bad.
00:01:19:23 – 00:01:21:22
Arturo Gaitan
They they they touch my balls.
00:01:22:11 – 00:01:25:23
Nathan Crane
Oh, yeah. They went for all the jewels, huh?
00:01:26:10 – 00:01:45:11
Arturo Gaitan
They will for all the jewels. And I just. He asked me, do you want to do it in private? I said, No, I’ll do it here in front of everybody, you know. And that’s it. At the end, I just tell everybody. He’s just making sure that there’s a real a package. And yeah, everybody was good after that.
00:01:45:11 – 00:01:48:09
Nathan Crane
But yeah, that’s too.
00:01:48:09 – 00:01:57:24
Nathan Crane
Bad that that that kind of discrimination still happens in this country. You know, it’s kind of crazy, actually. Actually, all over the world, it happens. That’s the crazy. Oh, yeah.
00:01:58:11 – 00:02:01:12
Arturo Gaitan
Oh, yeah, yeah. Now that’s everywhere. How you doing, son?
00:02:01:12 – 00:02:16:13
Nathan Crane
You’re good, man. Good. Yeah. Good to see you. Good to see you. We’re rolling here, so we’re just going to roll with it. For everybody who doesn’t know, this is Arturo Gaitan. But you you go by a different name now.
00:02:17:10 – 00:02:21:18
Arturo Gaitan
No, I’m it’s still kind of the same name, but people call me different things.
00:02:22:00 – 00:02:23:07
Nathan Crane
Yeah. What do people call you?
00:02:24:07 – 00:02:28:21
Arturo Gaitan
Oh, shit. Oh, sorry. Am I allowed to say by the word sometimes?
00:02:28:21 – 00:02:33:05
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Yeah, you can. Cause I wouldn’t have you on because I know. I know you like to curse sometimes.
00:02:33:06 – 00:02:49:07
Arturo Gaitan
Okay. Okay. Yeah, it’s not that I like is. I’ve been programed like that, you know, like my mother probably, like. But anyways, I don’t know, they call me different things like creature magical creature art, weirdo, so many different things. I’m all the time. I don’t want to mention it.
00:02:50:21 – 00:02:53:08
Nathan Crane
All right, so you you go by art. Still go by art.
00:02:53:19 – 00:02:56:07
Arturo Gaitan
Oh, yeah. Art. Yes, Art. Arturo.
00:02:56:16 – 00:03:36:03
Nathan Crane
Yeah. So so those who don’t know Arturo Gaitan is, was one of my very early spiritual teachers, mentors, friends, family members, somebody who taught me so much about spirituality, about my life. I tell people all the time, Arturo, that one of the things that I’m so grateful for that you taught me was how to think for myself. You know, as a young I think I met you probably when I was around 2020 or 21, so young, you know, 20 year old that’s trying to figure out life, getting on my feet.
00:03:36:03 – 00:03:56:15
Nathan Crane
Right. And moved to San Diego, you know, starting over, really diving into health and spirituality and and met you. And one of the things that you talk so much with me about in teaching me meditation and how to think for myself and how so many of us like you were just talking about, all of us are programed, right?
00:03:56:15 – 00:04:27:04
Nathan Crane
Reprogram by our parents were programed by our society, by our schools, by our teachers, by belief systems that dictate and determine our lives. And helping me recognize that at an early age and then saying, look, it’s so essential that we learn how to think for ourselves, because if we don’t, we’re just doing everybody else’s thinking and going along in this life unconsciously, you know, with all of these behaviors and patterns that are very often sabotaging our lives and leading to so much pain and suffering.
00:04:27:15 – 00:04:42:01
Nathan Crane
And so, you know, it’s one of the things that I really attribute so much, you know, gratitude towards you for helping me think. I think for myself, really, I think it’s such a gift.
00:04:42:04 – 00:05:25:14
Arturo Gaitan
Yeah. Yeah, not now. Thank you. Thank you, Nate. And I think that is essential what you said. That’s a perfect word. It is essential that every human should be allowed and teach. You know, like they don’t teach us that. And actually, it is very unfortunate to see that even in the education system and everywhere since later, what you’ve been programed to, don’t think for yourself is like they have all these expectations that has nothing to do with your true self, you know, and what every time that even in elementary school I was freaking kick from seven elementary schools because they actually told my mom that I was retarded.
00:05:26:10 – 00:05:27:00
Nathan Crane
Because.
00:05:28:00 – 00:05:28:21
Arturo Gaitan
They, I.
00:05:28:24 – 00:05:31:01
Nathan Crane
I don’t know. I don’t know. But I remember that.
00:05:32:17 – 00:05:33:05
Nathan Crane
They told.
00:05:33:05 – 00:05:58:23
Arturo Gaitan
That to my mom. And it’s like, well, I think that she thought at some point because it was very difficult to deal with me because it was it they the kid that ask questions you know they ask questions since little and I’m questioning everything and seeing the world differently and coming up with all these ideas and consciousness and particles and saying things like, okay, this kid is delusional.
00:05:59:06 – 00:06:23:21
Arturo Gaitan
This kid might be retarded because he doesn’t answer when we ask them a question. Yes, questions, but he doesn’t answer. Well, I was busy in my mind, you know, I was busy. And the teacher asked me questions about stupid things and and in my perception they speak very low during that time. Yeah. And it’s like they’re doing, they asked me a question in slow motion, Arturo.
00:06:23:22 – 00:06:50:10
Arturo Gaitan
I’m like, Oh my gosh, what is going to happen? So I didn’t, I didn’t answer anything. So yeah, they sent me to the doctor. Fortunately, they were not pushing kids to take medication, so I was out of medication for a long time. Little challenge. Not no, because. No, the medication I set up little challenge because I guess that way I am one of the very first now call ADHD and all these kids, hyperactive kids.
00:06:50:10 – 00:07:01:19
Arturo Gaitan
And I was like that my entire life. What like completely rad spectrum, you know, like I actually they thought that I was autistic, too. Well, probably I. I don’t know, man.
00:07:02:05 – 00:07:02:15
Nathan Crane
I don’t know.
00:07:02:24 – 00:07:04:20
Nathan Crane
You’re probably a little autistic, I think.
00:07:04:20 – 00:07:05:02
Nathan Crane
Yeah.
00:07:06:06 – 00:07:09:16
Arturo Gaitan
I can reaction sometimes, you know, like when people told you, look.
00:07:11:02 – 00:07:30:15
Nathan Crane
I. I’ve been with you and seen your laugh attacks where you just can’t stop laughing for like, I probably seen you laugh nonstop for, like, ten or 15 minutes. And when I when you’re to have a laugh attack and then I’m just laughing and then it just goes on forever. But you literally have laugh. I’ve seen you have laugh attacks where you can’t stop laughing.
00:07:31:14 – 00:07:33:10
Nathan Crane
I don’t know if that’s autism or not, but.
00:07:35:09 – 00:07:54:00
Arturo Gaitan
I’m handling that better. I mix in anger or now mixed in anger with a laugh attack so I can stop the laugh attack so I can call myself a little grounded about how the world is okay. I am even angry now. Okay, that’s good. And then they are laugh continue. But yeah. Is getting better.
00:07:55:09 – 00:07:55:15
Nathan Crane
Now.
00:07:55:15 – 00:07:59:11
Arturo Gaitan
You have one right now.
00:07:59:11 – 00:08:03:20
Nathan Crane
Now you grew up and then you grew up in Mexico City if I remember.
00:08:03:20 – 00:08:05:13
Arturo Gaitan
Yes, I did. Mexico City.
00:08:06:03 – 00:08:10:13
Nathan Crane
Mm. And so, and that’s where you got kicked out of seven elementary schools.
00:08:11:14 – 00:08:11:22
Arturo Gaitan
Yeah.
00:08:11:22 – 00:08:21:18
Nathan Crane
From church to. Yeah. Yeah. I remember you used to question the question. The preachers and the pastors about God and they wouldn’t answer your questions.
00:08:22:17 – 00:08:46:16
Arturo Gaitan
Yeah. Yeah. And they were like, you know, I had to expose them because they were lying. You know, during that time, I believe that once he got to talk to me, you know what? I referred to God, it could be four people like Universe, whatever they believe. You know, I discovered that human beings can be live. They can believe whatever the heck we want.
00:08:46:19 – 00:09:17:02
Arturo Gaitan
That’s the truth. We can believe whatever we want. At the end we have believe. But yeah, I remember in the mass this priest was getting. I’ve been observing things. My grandma always take me to the church and I’ve been observing things like that. Oh, there is a technique. The guy start talking, they make them feel miserable, they make them feel guilty, and then they pass the little basket to get money.
00:09:17:11 – 00:09:37:22
Arturo Gaitan
So every time the kiddos actually pass the basket, I’m like, okay, so one day I have the opportunity. Well, I was next to this little chubby kid that supposed to say that he was very happy to be there and he got stuck. So I grabbed the mic and I just say, say it out loud that the priest was lying to them, that he’s calling them sinners.
00:09:38:11 – 00:09:59:20
Arturo Gaitan
And and because they and then they showed up as a basket. And and I remember I said, you know, God talked to me, God talk to me and explain me that, you know, nobody says sinner. Like if you make mistakes, if you do any of these sinners when you go to sleep, the metaphorical meaning of you going to sleep as a human is death.
00:10:00:09 – 00:10:16:24
Arturo Gaitan
And if you have the opportunity to open your eyes the very next day, it means that God forgive you and now you. It’s your choice to repeat whatever the heck you did the previous day, you know? So they kick me out.
00:10:16:24 – 00:10:39:09
Nathan Crane
Well, you were speaking words of wisdom for sure. I think more and more people are waking up to this spiritual truth that, you know, we’re not born sinners as as many, unfortunately, you know, as beautiful as Christianity is and as much as I love Jesus and Jesus teachings and learn a lot from him and learn from the Bible, I study the Bible every day right now.
00:10:39:18 – 00:11:04:14
Nathan Crane
You know, there are there are things in the religion aspect of Christianity that, just like you said, I think, keep people living in fear, in constant fear, and actually prevent people from waking up to their highest self to the highest truth, to, you know, having a true connection with God, to having that true realization of God. I think it’s that it is that fear.
00:11:04:14 – 00:11:31:01
Nathan Crane
And some of those teachings that are preventing so many good hearted, you know, caring, sincere people from actually achieving what they’re trying to achieve, which is having, you know, a pure life, a good life, a life of deep meaning and purpose, a life where they feel a true connection with their creator. And it is that is that being told that you’re a sinner?
00:11:31:01 – 00:11:51:08
Nathan Crane
There’s nothing you can do about it. You know you can. Jesus basically died on the cross for your sins. So you can pretty much sin all you want, but, you know, ask for forgiveness. And Jesus has already forgiven you. But there’s nothing that will get you into heaven unless you believe in Jesus. Otherwise, you’re going to go to hell and burn no matter how good you do on the planet.
00:11:51:21 – 00:12:15:09
Nathan Crane
Like what? Right? Like ever since I was a kid also, there was nothing about that that ever made sense to me. And I was like, There’s something so untrue about this. And something similar happened to me when I was a kid and I have to I’ll have to ask my mom because I, I don’t remember the exact story, but there was something similar where I remember as a young kid being in a church and then being kicked out and then never going back again.
00:12:15:09 – 00:12:22:14
Nathan Crane
And so it was like never went back to church as a kid with my family, for whatever reason, I have to I’ll have to ask my mom.
00:12:22:14 – 00:12:28:02
Arturo Gaitan
And I think that you’ve told me that you tried to burn the church during that time, but I’m just kidding.
00:12:29:05 – 00:12:47:12
Nathan Crane
I wouldn’t doubt it. But I mean, I was like, I think I was three or four years old and I was spray painting my neighbor’s trailer, you know, brake lights and the and I was out with the older kids and they probably, you know, convinced me to do it or something or my rebellious nature just did it. I don’t know.
00:12:47:22 – 00:13:01:07
Nathan Crane
And, you know, the cops the cops came and got us and brought us home and my mom wanted that cop to I still remember it. She wanted him to scare me so bad so that I would never do anything like that again. Well, it didn’t work.
00:13:01:07 – 00:13:02:10
Arturo Gaitan
Obviously, they work.
00:13:03:06 – 00:13:06:03
Nathan Crane
In your car.
00:13:06:03 – 00:13:26:22
Nathan Crane
He took out his handcuffs and he slammed them. We had a wooden round. I remember a round table and he slammed them on the dinner table and he goes, If you ever do anything like that again, you’re these are going to be put on you and you’re going to jail. And rather like I remember being scared as a kid, but for some reason it didn’t it didn’t scare me enough.
00:13:27:22 – 00:13:51:21
Arturo Gaitan
I know. I know. I know so many I know many stories about you. So I believe that. Oh, yeah, it is. It is. You know, it is unfortunate because I believe in Jesus. I always believe my entire life. You know, I practice kind of his life since, you know, I was a 12 year old, all obsess about it.
00:13:52:03 – 00:14:21:21
Arturo Gaitan
But I didn’t want to believe it because they forced me to believe. I want to believe because I saw I saw the you know, I look up to him. I look up to that that character. I look up to this thing. So and, you know, like many teachers, you know, like that and so many others. But it’s very interesting because I always feel attracted and and I didn’t like the fact that I have to remember what they used to tell you when you were little.
00:14:21:21 – 00:14:37:20
Arturo Gaitan
And they said, like, a, the only way for you to communicate with God or have some contact with God is through us like who they are. If you are, who are you to to tell me that I you know, that dude is talking to me since little.
00:14:37:21 – 00:14:39:03
Nathan Crane
You know, like but.
00:14:39:03 – 00:15:10:12
Arturo Gaitan
Anyways, you know, and you started growing up and you realize more things but it goes back made I think that it goes back to all these programing that we’re having. You know, it’s like that is everywhere. I, I recognized very early in my life that I had a little perspective of theory because I remember the very first things that they start telling us, including science, which, you know, no, I’m not I’m not talking against religion.
00:15:10:12 – 00:15:32:03
Arturo Gaitan
I think that we need religion and we need science. And I think that nowadays I can see how this system sort of whatever the heck is happening around the world, they want you to be a godless Y because at least when you have God in your heart, in your mind, or you have some type of a structure, you are a more solid person.
00:15:32:03 – 00:15:52:14
Arturo Gaitan
But it’s like it’s like we so plan for you to be godless so they way they can control you is here. And you’re a little mindless creature that just walking over this earth where they don’t want you to be healthy, they don’t want you to be over 60 or 70, and they want to erase the wisdom. That’s what they want.
00:15:52:14 – 00:16:11:21
Arturo Gaitan
They want to erase wisdom. They want to they just want a little like strength force and that’s it. But it was very interesting because I remember around seven in your soul, I used to watch my grandma deliver babies. You know, she was a doctor and and she was delivering babies. And I wasn’t looking through the window, you know.
00:16:11:21 – 00:16:24:05
Arturo Gaitan
And finally she grabbed me and she she saw me and fuck, she discovered me. And then I remember that she grabbed me and then she grabbed my ear and she’s like, Ah, are you a pervert?
00:16:24:19 – 00:16:27:03
Nathan Crane
Like, would you mean.
00:16:27:09 – 00:16:45:07
Arturo Gaitan
She’s like, Do you like crutches? Like, yeah, I do, but not that way. You know, it was like so she asked me like, what you’re watching, this is private. And and she’s like, well, you’re watching like and imagine my answer, you know, the light hits.
00:16:45:18 – 00:16:46:13
Nathan Crane
What? Like.
00:16:47:18 – 00:17:09:20
Arturo Gaitan
I’m like I used to, I don’t know, in my imagination or whatever or in my eyes, I. I see this little ball of light. Different ones, different sizes going on top of the bellybutton. And it’s going down, going down, going down. And suddenly, Quinn, when the baby comes out and breathe for the first time, you’ve all seen, you know, it’s like a bomb.
00:17:10:09 – 00:17:44:02
Arturo Gaitan
And I’m like, that was fascinating for me because you make me understand that in order to have a human with a life, in order to have life, there is a condition. It’s a condition of some energy, some light. Somehow, I think we call it soul the sound. Right? Let’s call it soul. The soul and the body is the condition for loving life, for being alive and but also that is going to trigger or amygdala said never think to have the survival mode and everything is going to be conditioning.
00:17:44:02 – 00:18:12:18
Arturo Gaitan
And that’s why we conditioned everything. We were conditioned we conditioned others we conditioned or love. We can’t we’re coming from we’re beings that we’re coming from conditioned alive. And everybody’s always looking for unconditional love and unconditional love. In my perception, my theory is that is very short. You know, you need to learn to live a little bit longer with it because the only part where you are in unconditional love is when you detach yourself from something.
00:18:13:04 – 00:18:33:00
Arturo Gaitan
And that is the moment that you’re living pure, unconditional vibration. And and that’s what I understood when I was a kid. But of course, what kids understand that without being called okay is crazy. Don’t listen to him. He has a lot of a great imagination. And, you know, I was very happy to have a great imagination.
00:18:33:03 – 00:19:08:21
Nathan Crane
He’s retarded, he’s autistic. Kick him out of the church, kick him out of school. Now, it’s amazing what you’re saying. You know, this is in the the ancient yogic teachings and the from the Vedas and the Upanishads, from the ancient spiritual texts of India, of when the soul comes in to the human, to the body. And this is something I remember used to say to me as these simple teachings that have stuck with me all these years, one of the things you would say is, you know, you’re a human being for a reason.
00:19:08:21 – 00:19:47:18
Nathan Crane
Human being, human, physical part, the body, right? The being, the spiritual part, the soul. It’s like, oh, yeah, human being. Okay, that makes sense. Right? And then and then you talk more about that. Well, you know, you look at these ancient texts from India and and these incredible teachings of the soul that comes into the body just like you’re talking about, and why we as human beings, the reason we experience so much suffering and anger and hatred and resentment and fear and all these things, challenging lives and painful lives and all these things that we go through.
00:19:48:00 – 00:20:37:01
Nathan Crane
Aside from the karma conversation or the law of, you know, the law of cause and effect conversation is they teach that the soul becomes attached to the body. One thinks that the body is everything right, that the human is everything the being then thinks it’s the human and forgets that it’s the being right, the soul. This infinite God connected, you know, omnipresent part of ourselves, the higher self or our soul or our spirit then comes into this human experience and goes, Oh, I’m a body, I’m limited, I’m physical, I get pain and I, I die and gets attached to it and believes this is who I am and the whole journey of, of, you know,
00:20:38:01 – 00:21:04:10
Nathan Crane
coming to our highest self and our our spiritual awareness and freedom and liberation is recognizing that we are the soul, that we are infinite, that we are one with God, that we are a child of God, right? That we are not this body. And when this body drops and goes back to the earth, our soul moves on infinitely ever growing, ever expanding, you know, ever moving and never dying.
00:21:04:16 – 00:21:24:02
Nathan Crane
And that alone creates liberation and freedom in the mind and frees us from all suffering. Right? This is what the Buddha taught in. In his way. And this is what Buddhism is about. This is where the great Indian Ricci’s and Masters have taught in their own ways. And this is why, you know, you’ve discovered in your own life since you were a kid, right.
00:21:24:02 – 00:21:25:01
Nathan Crane
Going through all this, I’m.
00:21:25:01 – 00:21:28:02
Arturo Gaitan
Not only crazy what you’re telling me that I’m not the only crazy.
00:21:28:02 – 00:21:30:24
Nathan Crane
One here.
00:21:30:24 – 00:21:53:19
Arturo Gaitan
No, it’s crazy to think. And believe it or not, my people, my thing like what if you for real, like, you know that I. I promised myself when I was that age at seven, when I accepted my my destiny, I promised myself that I will never read books. You know, I know how to read. But I, you know, I don’t read books.
00:21:53:19 – 00:22:17:05
Arturo Gaitan
I, I’ve been trying to just people call it, channel it channeling and I’ve been doing that my entire life. It’s like the books haven’t been part of my journey because I suppose to keep everything that comes to me as pure as I can. Yours is a belief system that I have. So when you’re telling me all this is like I really seriously am feeling here alone and it’s.
00:22:17:05 – 00:22:17:11
Nathan Crane
Like.
00:22:18:12 – 00:22:50:10
Arturo Gaitan
My entire life and all these things for all is already in all the books. I am just channeling the books. This is crazy because, you know, it is so funny that I came across to the controversial bookstore, the first metaphysical bookstore since 1963 in San Diego and when they were about to close, I, I got it. I got, I got the bookstore, you know, it was very bad business, but I wanted to keep the books for, for people because a lot of people get benefits from that.
00:22:50:23 – 00:22:58:17
Arturo Gaitan
And people ask me, like, Arturo, you don’t like what you’re doing. It’s like, I have no idea what I’m doing, but I’m just going to keep it alive.
00:22:59:01 – 00:23:03:06
Nathan Crane
The guy the guy who doesn’t read books ends up buying and owning a bookstore.
00:23:04:04 – 00:23:07:00
Arturo Gaitan
I know, right.
00:23:07:00 – 00:23:16:14
Nathan Crane
But you were. But you were teaching there, though, right? You were doing you were doing psychic readings and teachings and and all kinds of stuff. I mean, that’s what you were involved with when you were there?
00:23:17:01 – 00:23:41:24
Arturo Gaitan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ve been I, I’ve been doing a lot. I develop I think that I was 13 years old when I developed some emotional healing tools and a method. I created a method and, and I remember that I you start applying it to me because I, I was 13. I remember Dad, I was so depressed, to be honest.
00:23:41:24 – 00:24:08:20
Arturo Gaitan
I saw f ing depressed of life and humans. I was so disappointed at life. You know, my hands used to be very I was a kid and my hands always got very hot still. And I just wanted to put on people because I felt their suffering, you know, I felt that. And I guess that at this point would be I wanted to naturally heal that person, you know, from illnesses or something.
00:24:08:20 – 00:24:31:21
Arturo Gaitan
But my mom always hit me and beat the shit out of me every time and ask me to shut up every time that I’m opening my mouth. And I remember when I was a nine, I went to the kitchen, I said, okay, that’s it. I’m going and and I became very societal. And at nine, you know, it’s like I, I don’t have a to say, but I became very suicidal.
00:24:31:21 – 00:24:50:16
Arturo Gaitan
I went in and grab a knife and tried to stab myself like, I don’t know, eight or nine times. And the knife didn’t go through because I got my butter knife. So so I got a butter knife. I didn’t know that they didn’t go through. But, you know, you watch movies and everything goes through, so you didn’t go through.
00:24:51:06 – 00:25:13:10
Arturo Gaitan
So it fail. And four years later, you’re a 13. I was so depressed again because I was feeling so much hate, but I didn’t know why and I never felt it in my life like that. And to be to make this story short, I, I went into my father’s house and I took pills like a bottle with 90 pills.
00:25:13:10 – 00:25:20:16
Arturo Gaitan
I just took them all and passionate. Passionate about Big Valley. And 30 minutes later, I’m feeling great.
00:25:21:03 – 00:25:23:19
Nathan Crane
Oh, my God.
00:25:23:19 – 00:25:40:10
Arturo Gaitan
Dying is greater this beautiful. But they. But you’re not dying, you know? Just expect to die is so stupid. I’m sorry. It was stupid. And and then after that, you sit in front of the bottle and you just looking at the bottle. And in one of those high star readings, you see you don’t have the tendency to read.
00:25:40:10 – 00:26:07:20
Arturo Gaitan
So I read I took vitamins, I keep fucking vitamins, man. And I’m like, okay, so I’m with the jitters for a couple of days and but I understood. And so I start downloading these methods nowadays our methods and, and I discover why I was feeling hate and, and, and I was hating my mom. I felt hate towards my mom.
00:26:07:20 – 00:26:31:02
Arturo Gaitan
She used to beat the crap out of me every day. And I feel the hate. And I don’t want to feel like that. You know, I prefer for her to hit me that I make keeping feeling like that in my heart. I wasn’t that person, but I was. And I decided to start playing this method. So I started doing womb regressions to me, calming disconnections to myself and working on myself to reprogram.
00:26:31:02 – 00:26:39:04
Arturo Gaitan
I mean, I was a kid. I was recording in tapes in those world months. What bands? I think that is called the Walkman.
00:26:39:05 – 00:26:40:22
Nathan Crane
The Walkman. Yeah. Walkman.
00:26:40:24 – 00:27:05:04
Arturo Gaitan
Walkman, yeah. And, and so I just like start reprograming myself to, to be a better kid so my mom doesn’t beat the crap out of me. So I didn’t notice that I was discovering a method. Nowadays it helps me to help people. But, yeah, that’s. That’s how everything happened, man. And then I decided not to take that much of vitamins.
00:27:05:04 – 00:27:14:13
Nathan Crane
Yeah, I remember you telling the story. I think of your mom, like, taking a broomstick and like it beating you so hard with a broomstick. Is that right? I remember that. Oh, yeah.
00:27:14:22 – 00:27:16:14
Arturo Gaitan
That’s what. Just one of them. But yeah.
00:27:17:16 – 00:27:42:18
Nathan Crane
It’s so crazy that you I mean, this really spiritually advanced kid, you know, comes into a family that’s. And your dad with all his issues. Right. And, you know, your challenges there between your mom and your dad into this really challenging family. And here you are, this really kind of spiritually advanced kid just wants to help and love the world and, you know, getting beat and going through all these very challenging experiences as a kid.
00:27:42:18 – 00:28:01:08
Nathan Crane
But it’s I mean, I know in my own life, you know, all that many of the challenges that I went through as well, right? Drug addiction and homelessness and in fights and, you know, kicked out of my house and so many issues almost dead at 17. And like, I look back and and I look at that and I go, now, now I understand it.
00:28:01:08 – 00:28:23:01
Nathan Crane
Right? I needed to go through that. I needed to go through that karma. I needed to have those experiences. I needed to learn from that. I need to learn how to forgive, you know, my own parents, forgive myself, forgive myself for hurting so many others. Right? And forgive others who hurt me. And to know what it feels like to be lost and lonely and afraid and addicted.
00:28:23:01 – 00:28:53:20
Nathan Crane
And, you know, all these challenging things that literally millions and millions and probably billions of people go through in their lives and then come out the other side of it and learn how to be free from that. Right. And so it’s like I I’m actually grateful for it. Now where there was a few years, I think even by the time I met you, I don’t even know that I was I had come to terms yet with my past because I was like a different I like buried it away.
00:28:54:09 – 00:29:22:06
Nathan Crane
Right. And I don’t I didn’t even tell you about it until probably a couple of years of actually, you know, spending time with you because there was a lot of shame there. There’s a lot of shame of all the stuff that I went through. And it took me quite a while to fully heal and learn from that. But that’s that’s really part of, I think our spiritual growth is learning from our mistakes, our challenges that the brutal experiences that we go through.
00:29:22:11 – 00:29:42:02
Nathan Crane
And we can either hold on to them and let them dictate our lives and live a sad, mean, angry life. Or we can learn from them and forgive and grow and find ways to turn that pain into purpose. Right? Yeah. Which is what you help people do.
00:29:42:02 – 00:30:02:07
Arturo Gaitan
No, man, I’m proud of you. Like it? You’re seriously. I remember you the first time that we met and I was doing a presentation, and you were so skinny, like, very skinny, this key and very skinny kid. And everybody’s trying to talk to me. And then you. You come and just say, I will never forget. And you said, how do you do that?
00:30:03:12 – 00:30:05:23
Arturo Gaitan
And I’m like, I do what you normally.
00:30:07:01 – 00:30:07:08
Nathan Crane
Would.
00:30:07:17 – 00:30:09:14
Arturo Gaitan
Do, what that thing. And you said.
00:30:09:14 – 00:30:10:17
Nathan Crane
That thing like.
00:30:11:12 – 00:30:34:03
Arturo Gaitan
Swamp Thing is like the feeling that you made all of us to have. And then we started talking and then you told me you started, you know, with the time to start telling me your story, all your stories, you know, incendiary or something like that, so many different things that you’ve been through and I remember that you were very serious about change.
00:30:34:03 – 00:30:57:17
Arturo Gaitan
You know, you were very serious about change. And I see you now. And I’m telling you, man, from my heart, I’m so proud to see what you come up with, you know, for yourself, by yourself. And and I think that I’m very happy that we met and that, you know, that we have the opportunity to to touch a little life because you’ve been touching more lives.
00:30:57:17 – 00:31:19:20
Arturo Gaitan
You know, that’s what we do. Humans see humans. We have the capacity to take a life and make it better or make it worse. It’s all a choice, you solid choice, but also the person that is going to be told your needs to be willing. You know, it’s all about the willingness, how much the person is in the need to have that change instead of being afraid of the change.
00:31:19:20 – 00:31:43:12
Arturo Gaitan
How much of that? And no, I’m proud of you, man. Like, seriously, like you. When you told me everything, I was like, okay, you know, you need to change. You need something if that’s what you want, you know, because we’re nobody to judge anybody. So nobody wants to be are messed up. Okay. You know, that’s what they want with their life is their choice.
00:31:43:20 – 00:32:11:04
Arturo Gaitan
The problem that I’m having is when there is not a choice, when you’re being program or something and those programs are dictating your life and you don’t even have the capacity to have a choice, that’s a problem. I noticed that because everybody says Angie for granted, oh, we all have a choice. No, you know, in my studies of of my own thing, I discovered a long time ago that people really like that they don’t have a choice.
00:32:11:04 – 00:32:22:19
Arturo Gaitan
Their programs are so strong and so hard that literally it’s like you don’t have a choice. You just continue going. You you continue existing because that’s that’s it. That’s all about if that makes sense.
00:32:23:02 – 00:32:57:12
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Yeah. And I remember in that first time thank you for for saying that and thank you for helping me those three or four years that we were together at almost every single day. I mean, there was so much that you helped me discover in myself that helped me transform my life for the better in so many, so many incredible ways I mentioned I know we were you know, we fell out of touch and we can talk a little bit about that, too, like we and then I just saw you for the first time.
00:32:57:12 – 00:33:13:04
Nathan Crane
I don’t know how many years in San Diego a couple of months ago, which was really was in San Diego. I was like, I need to reach out to Arturo. Like I just had this feeling that I needed to reconnect with you. But I want to go back to the first time that I met you. I think I was already so.
00:33:13:05 – 00:33:30:13
Nathan Crane
I was getting into real estate and I was with Tom and those guys and and I think how I went to that presentation you were giving was like, they’re like, hey, this this guy has given this amazing presentation at this hotel. We got to go check it out. So I think I was with Tom and them. I can’t I can’t remember exactly.
00:33:30:13 – 00:33:51:05
Nathan Crane
But in like you were getting involved with starting a new business with these guys or some new some new marketing cutting network marketing company. I think there’s being launched at the time and so like, yeah, we got go listen. So I remember sitting there in the audience and just going, This is the most amazing presenter I’ve ever seen in my life.
00:33:51:05 – 00:34:20:04
Nathan Crane
I’m like, What is going on here? It was like, you know, a small room, probably 50 or 60 people in there, right? 70 people in a little hotel room. And it was like you had everybody just laughing and motivated, inspired and crying. And it was like, this is the Mexican Tony Robbins on stage here. Like but but even more spiritual focus, you know, and that’s I don’t remember coming to you and saying that, like, how did you do that?
00:34:20:15 – 00:34:46:21
Nathan Crane
But I can imagine at that stage in my life, I was already a couple of years into like this health and healing and spiritual journey that what I saw you do was so remarkable. It was just like I could see myself coming up and be like, Hey, how do you do that? Little did I know that, you know, we would get involved in business together and then you’d become, you know, my spiritual mentor over the next few years, introduced me to my wife, who’s in the other room, you know?
00:34:46:22 – 00:34:48:08
Arturo Gaitan
Yeah, I know, I know.
00:34:48:16 – 00:35:12:15
Nathan Crane
Granny officiated our wedding and Encinitas and were big, energetic support with our daughter being born and so many, so many amazing things, you know, in such a short time. Yeah, I remember the long conversations sitting with you where I was going back to Oceanside. I think it was I think this was a point where well, actually, here’s what I want to say.
00:35:12:23 – 00:35:35:15
Nathan Crane
I want to say that one of the things that amazed me about you and gave me so much insight into our human capabilities, our human being possibilities, just even just a little taste of it was how I would see you say, okay, we need this, we need this, we need an office, right, for this new business, but we don’t have any money and you’re like, I’m going to get us an office.
00:35:35:15 – 00:35:55:21
Nathan Crane
And I’m like, What? And then like three days later we have an office with no money. And it’s like, you know, you’re like, Yeah, I just sat in meditation or, you know, quietly and and visualize this thing and visualize us having the office. And then this guy came to me and said, Call this person. I call this person and boom, boom, boom.
00:35:55:21 – 00:36:14:18
Nathan Crane
And like three days later, we’re in an office with no money down, right? And like the perfect place we need. I would see those kinds of things happen, these manifestation things that you would say, Oh, we need this, we need that. You’re like, okay, I’ll do it. Even without, you know, the resources that most people are like, Oh, I don’t have money, I don’t have this, I don’t have that.
00:36:14:18 – 00:36:34:16
Nathan Crane
I can’t do it. You always found a way to make it happen. And and it was always through very unique things. And it was, if I remember, you can correct me if I’m wrong. If I remember it was usually you would be meditating on it and visualizing it and going through the creation process and then things would happen, right?
00:36:34:16 – 00:37:02:05
Nathan Crane
Like, yes, you’d get ideas or inspirations. Call this person, do this, go there, go over here, drive there. And you would just follow. And then all of a sudden it was like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and we have it. And because of that, because of seeing you do that firsthand, you know, I realize the possibility of that in that sense I’ve done in my life, you know, over the last 15 plus years, again and again and again and again and again as well.
00:37:02:05 – 00:37:17:11
Nathan Crane
People talk about the law of attraction, but don’t I think don’t really understand like the true power that we have when we’re really connected and and really focused on what we want, that we can we can create and manifest anything almost instantly.
00:37:18:03 – 00:37:47:01
Arturo Gaitan
Yes. Now he’s it’s funny, I still doing it. I actually have a little club. I went teaching. I started years ago, but this year I decided to make a club and I have this little group and everybody, when I teach them how to do certain things, I have this lady, she’s funny. She’s in her sixties and she says, I don’t know what I’m signing in this shit, but I don’t believe in everything.
00:37:47:01 – 00:37:48:21
Arturo Gaitan
But whatever.
00:37:49:12 – 00:37:50:19
Nathan Crane
She said, the word.
00:37:50:19 – 00:38:10:09
Arturo Gaitan
Fuck it. So it’s funny because I’m teaching her something and to the group and she calls like three days after when she applied what I teach and she says like so she called Francesca. Francesca, she manage my time and everything and she’s like.
00:38:10:10 – 00:38:10:14
Nathan Crane
A.
00:38:11:02 – 00:38:34:10
Arturo Gaitan
Francesca. Yes. Who is so and so. Oh what’s going on. Like up she’s like literally Francesca says, who says what the f like what the f what? Like that thing that she teaches really works. I said. She said, like, what do you mean? Like a why would she have a phone call three days ago from the Social Security?
00:38:34:23 – 00:38:50:11
Arturo Gaitan
And they told me that they only three grand for years and and there was glitch in the system and she’s like, are you sure that those three grand are for me? And she’s like, Yeah, so we’re going to send you the three grand. And you’re like, I got my 30 grand.
00:38:51:13 – 00:38:51:23
Nathan Crane
This is like.
00:38:52:00 – 00:39:18:14
Arturo Gaitan
Out of nowhere. It’s something that’s supposed to be missing. But anyways, yes, I’ve been practicing manifest ing without knowing all natural. And when you mentioned the law of Attraction, to be honest, doing that during some time when I knew all this things and I saw people trying everything, I saw people going for the Law of attraction. I saw people going for the power of the now, you know, power of now.
00:39:18:14 – 00:39:41:03
Arturo Gaitan
And I’m like, I started like a bullshit bullshit. No, not like a I understand. You need to enjoy life as you go, but see God’s universe, whatever you want to call it, you give us the ice on the front. It means that in order to have a life, you need to have a future. You see the future. I know they said that the future is not there.
00:39:41:04 – 00:40:01:24
Arturo Gaitan
Yeah, the past is gone. Well, no, look, you cannot turn back. So it means that if you really tried the past is going to hurt you, the past is going to hurt it. So you have prohibited to live in the past, but you need to live in the future and that will make your now. The power of now is like this is gone, every second is gone.
00:40:01:24 – 00:40:19:05
Arturo Gaitan
There is no power in the now, the power is in the future and that will make your now enjoyable. And one of the things that I notice and I always teach a lot of my teachings, you might remember this instead of the Law of attraction, I call it the law of distraction. I call it the law of distraction.
00:40:19:05 – 00:40:35:23
Arturo Gaitan
And the law of distraction. Pretty much what it is, is is very you need focus. You need power of focus in order to achieve whatever the heck you can. Of course, there is certain law. You know, we live in a universe that is quantum, which means that an amount of particles will determine if things happen or not for you.
00:40:36:06 – 00:41:02:22
Arturo Gaitan
And in order to create and make those particles in the same position to for you to achieve your manifesting, you need to focus. You need some power of focusing. And your focus is everywhere. The world is designed to get you out of your focus. So the law of distraction. So the less things you have, the more distractions you have, the less focus you have is dramatic.
00:41:03:05 – 00:41:31:07
Arturo Gaitan
A lot of people some thing I need to focus more and they making the effort but they still have the same distractions. There is a way to really is are clear in yourself. Your vibration from attracting those distractions is not is is energetics but it is not just a discipline. The energetics will bring you a discipline. The more that you get rid of distractions, the higher your power is of focus, and then your manifesting power is going to happen, you know?
00:41:31:07 – 00:41:49:07
Arturo Gaitan
Yes. Like you said, if I need an office, my mischievous mind is I like, okay, I need an office. Where do I want the office I want in this place? Okay, let’s start seeing what’s available right there. And then, you know, I call the person like a who’s the owner of this person, but you need to talk to us.
00:41:49:07 – 00:42:07:23
Arturo Gaitan
No. So I research the owner. I go to the owner and says, listen, I need an office, an office in your plaza. Can I have one? Yeah. Is this much? I don’t have money, but I’m going to have it. Just give me a month and I will get your money. Like they started laughing at me like you, for real.
00:42:08:05 – 00:42:18:15
Arturo Gaitan
I barely speak English, right? I like it. Somehow they give it to me and. And. Yeah, and this is not the first time this happened before. Unfortunately, I don’t need to do that anymore.
00:42:19:12 – 00:42:20:23
Nathan Crane
I come up with the money now.
00:42:21:09 – 00:42:47:06
Arturo Gaitan
Before and I do it in the normal way by a still with my mischievous manifest. And yeah, I have something that is called the Manifesto Club and this small group of people is fun. Is fun. But yeah, you’re right. I’ve been operating like done my entire life. And you said Tony Robbins. No, no, really. I want to tell you one thing about I think that motivation is important, but motivation doesn’t last.
00:42:48:06 – 00:43:14:14
Arturo Gaitan
Motivation doesn’t last. I really want to make a difference in people. And long time ago, I decided that I accepting who I really am and I decided that I need to help whoever is ready, humans, any human to become their best and do the healing and reprograming that they need to go deeper to fix the problem, not to just cover the problem.
00:43:14:14 – 00:43:33:07
Arturo Gaitan
You know, motivation. Everything is motivation. You know, your family’s motivation, your soul is the motivation. The world is a motivation or not it it at the end is being dictated. But yeah, very nice for you to remind me that.
00:43:33:07 – 00:44:03:15
Nathan Crane
Well, yeah. And you mentioned something I want to hear your thoughts on about living in the future and creating the future so that you have joined now in the present. The the contradiction to that that I’ve I would say that I that I see now is, you know, and I think who points this out really well is some of these great Indian teachers that I’m speaking of, yogananda’s you know, one of them, Srishti Ravishankar is another one.
00:44:03:16 – 00:44:28:11
Nathan Crane
There’s some really great spiritual teachers who I would say are enlightened beings who share, you know, just just profound wisdom, really pulling back from the ancient times, you know, the Bhagavad Gita, the art of cricket, some of these great spiritual texts that are just incredible, like just reading them and meditating on them can really open so many powerful dimensions within ourselves.
00:44:28:11 – 00:45:02:14
Nathan Crane
But that one of the conversations I’ve been listening to and really meditating on a lot lately is desires and desires that if you think about it, any desire, especially it comes from our ego or from our human, from our mind, any desire, whether it’s, you know, a new house, a new car, a great job, a great, you know, relationship, a great this, a great that, whatever that your desire is that, you know, you want to be a professional basketball player, whatever that is.
00:45:02:14 – 00:45:24:16
Nathan Crane
Like, it’s so great to you during that whole time until you finally achieve it. And once you achieve it, there’s nothing left there, right? Like and you see this with, you know, astronauts who basically come back from space, like totally depressed and suicidal because they achieve their greatest life thing they’ve been working for for their whole life. And now what?
00:45:24:17 – 00:45:41:17
Nathan Crane
Now they have nothing left, right or nothing left to live for, or even people who get get that house. Well, yeah, they got the house. Right. I’m happy for like a week now. Now the reality sets in. Oh, we got to maintain it. We got to spend more money on it. We got to clean it. We got to oh, it falls apart.
00:45:41:18 – 00:45:57:09
Nathan Crane
Oh, we got to do these things. And all of a sudden, you know, reality sets in, they’re no longer happy with that house. And two years go by, and now they want a bigger house. They want a better house. Oh, now they’re dreaming of the next house. And that’s when I’m going to be happy. Right? Or that relationship that’s made me happy when I have that final person.
00:45:57:16 – 00:46:20:01
Nathan Crane
And so the challenge I see with with like manifesting the tricky area I think we have to walk is like, is the desire coming from our ego. This this physical desire. Because I can tell you, I’ve achieved so many of the dreams I’ve set out to achieve. And there is no lasting happiness in any of them at all.
00:46:20:13 – 00:46:52:02
Nathan Crane
The happiness is fleeting. So where happiness has to come from, I truly believe, is in our soul. And in having a true connection to to God, to our highest self, to our highest truth. And and I think that’s the only thing in my beliefs. So far that actually can bring us true, lasting joy. And happiness is not living in the future or the past, actually, but living in, if we want to call it the now or the present or whatever.
00:46:52:02 – 00:47:10:05
Nathan Crane
But not being we can create from the present. Thinking about the future. We can create the things that we need, but it’s the attachment to those things and the thinking that those things are going to finally bring me happiness and not being happy now with what we have, which is causing everybody is suffering, if you think about it.
00:47:10:05 – 00:47:10:12
Nathan Crane
Right.
00:47:11:05 – 00:47:18:21
Arturo Gaitan
I think that is all that is very good. And this great. I, I think that, you know, I have my theories.
00:47:19:24 – 00:47:20:03
Nathan Crane
I.
00:47:20:03 – 00:47:44:10
Arturo Gaitan
Come my theories. And one of the things the very first thing that I notice is there is a difference between desire, some purpose and purpose is big. Purpose is almost like eternal happiness. You know, it pretty much it gives you that bike. It gives you that vibration that that energy. I don’t I never seen I notice limitations in some belief systems.
00:47:44:24 – 00:48:07:06
Arturo Gaitan
You know, if it’s a form of limitation to think that a desire it would limit you to your happiness. I, I think that some people have no high vibration with belief systems or they have no purpose yet, but they start with little desires that will get them there. And at some point purpose is going to come for them.
00:48:07:14 – 00:48:29:23
Arturo Gaitan
I really believe that for me everything is possible. I believe that if I am possible, everything is possible, right? You know, like if how the hell we are here we are. And it is possible. So everything is possible and then we need to convert it into probable. But one of the major things that I feel, and you’re right 100% about, like you need to have that connection with your soul.
00:48:29:23 – 00:48:59:19
Arturo Gaitan
You need to have that connection with your higher self, with God, with universe, whatever you want to call it, it doesn’t really matter. I always I always tell people this. I said there is four main, four main emotions in life for a human. Humans has these four main emotions, fears, sadness, anger and happiness. These three people look at it as negative.
00:49:00:05 – 00:49:24:21
Arturo Gaitan
They’re not negative. They’re essentials. They’re essentials because they make you to survive. See fear, sadness and anger make you make it survive. Everything else comes from there like frustration from anger, depression from sadness. You know, all the type of fears that we have come from two main ones. Fear of falling, fear of loud noise. Everything comes from their fear.
00:49:24:21 – 00:49:27:18
Nathan Crane
To fear of what is that fear of failing and fear of what.
00:49:28:05 – 00:49:29:16
Arturo Gaitan
Are falling.
00:49:30:02 – 00:49:30:22
Nathan Crane
Fear of falling?
00:49:31:11 – 00:49:56:16
Arturo Gaitan
Yes. And loud noise. Do you know when we come out of the womb, when we born inside of the womb, there is no noise and there is no gravity. So when we come out, when we come out, we experience for the first time and trigger some activates or amygdala to manage our emotions in the future. We feel gravity which makes us feel falling and we listen to the loud noise like, for example, fear to succeed.
00:49:56:16 – 00:50:03:24
Arturo Gaitan
It is directly connected to fear of falling or same is direct connected to fear of loud noise.
00:50:04:03 – 00:50:10:09
Nathan Crane
How is my daughter sexy? How is fear of succeeding connected to fear of falling?
00:50:11:03 – 00:50:20:01
Arturo Gaitan
Because if you fail, falling is failing. And and there is so many different things they’re.
00:50:20:01 – 00:50:38:16
Nathan Crane
Saying, then some people don’t choose. Some people are afraid to succeed because really subconscious ously they’re afraid to to fail from that success. And so that stems from an innate fear of falling just as like a human. Yes. We’re afraid to fall.
00:50:39:03 – 00:51:14:11
Arturo Gaitan
Correct. See, and the fourth one, which is happiness. See these three, I call them essentials. These three emotions are essentials. Now, a lot of people give for granted that happiness design a happiness is an essential but is not. And this is where you write 100% about, you know, you need your soul, you need God, you need something. Because what is really happiness for me, in my little theory that I have here, is people mistake happiness, an essential win happiness.
00:51:14:11 – 00:51:43:20
Arturo Gaitan
What it really is, is a fucking consequence, man is a consequence. So a consequence of what is a consequence of inner peace. And when you have inner peace, you’re naturally happy and see the connection with your creator, the connection with the universe, the connection with your soul. It gives you peace. You don’t see even even momentary peace. Like, for example, you have somebody that is depressed and this is not true.
00:51:44:02 – 00:52:06:19
Arturo Gaitan
I have it done before you give ten grand to a person, let’s let’s go into the material aspect. Right. Do you think ground to a person? That person is out of depression automatically. So happy is jumping and he’s so happy. Right. It’s going to be momentarily. And they’re like you said, the ten grand, they’re going to be gone probably faster than anything else and they’re going to be back in their misery.
00:52:06:19 – 00:52:20:13
Arturo Gaitan
Right. But during that time, they feel that is the ten grand, but it’s not really the ten grand. Is that the ten grand are giving them a sense of peace. Yeah. And they’re in peace for a moment.
00:52:20:16 – 00:52:39:00
Nathan Crane
It’s giving them freedom from that. It’s giving them freedom from their fear. It’s giving them a sense of freedom from the emotions, whether the sadness, the depression, they forget about those emotions. And so they have a little bit of freedom from that. Right. It’s it’s temporary, it’s artificial. It’s a fake freedom. But it feels like freedom.
00:52:40:08 – 00:53:14:19
Arturo Gaitan
It is freedom momentarily. You know what? Because in reality, they they’re going to get busy back to back to get busy with their problems. And that will keep them busy. And they’re glad they’re not going to have inner peace anymore. That’s that. But but yeah, it’s just probably a different perspective, I guess that I my experience of at this point being working with thousands and thousands and thousands of people in one on one sessions like I have many one on one sessions and all these years.
00:53:14:19 – 00:53:40:16
Arturo Gaitan
And I’m telling you, it’s a process. You know, it’s a process for everybody. Everybody’s different. Everybody comes from a different perspective. And sometimes my work is to see like, okay, what is the actual root cause of the problem? And I guess I’m a very bold person in a way that are they they say that I’m a rootless in a way when I have to present them like that.
00:53:41:01 – 00:53:59:04
Arturo Gaitan
Well, this is your bullshit right here. And they’re like, we what? Like, yeah, this is your. You hired me to show you your bullshit and I’m showing you your bullshit and you want to call it differently? Call it differently. I’m I’m going to call it different. And they start having their emotions. Oh, you don’t care about my emotions.
00:53:59:04 – 00:54:26:08
Arturo Gaitan
No, I don’t. I don’t care about your emotions. I care about your good emotions. See, I’m here to help you to go through that. Not everybody needs help, or at least certain help, but a lot of us, we sometimes we just need a little push. Sometimes we just need to have a little help with realizations. But that’s pretty much what I figured out in all my journey, my entire life, that happiness is a consequence.
00:54:26:08 – 00:54:53:23
Arturo Gaitan
And if somebody really wants to be happy, they need to learn to be peace. Yeah, that’s what they learn. Because when you learn to think by yourself and you start learning to calm the fog down pretty much right. And, and, and remove those distractions, that is still your peace. That’s what you’re going to see. That’s why I have life attacks my entire life is because somehow inside I’m in peace.
00:54:53:23 – 00:55:19:14
Arturo Gaitan
I’m not fully in peace sometimes, you know, especially when you drive in San Diego, you’re not in peace. You practice your angry bird or something like that. But but even you learn to enjoy it too, you know? You’ll learn to do see how you can transform that anger into passion. But yeah, at the end, the key in my life, at least for myself, is to learn to be in peace and don’t allow anybody to steal it.
00:55:19:14 – 00:55:36:07
Arturo Gaitan
You need to create that character that when somebody is coming here and trying to steal your peace and try to just like a make you miserable because their life is miserable, you have the right to stop. You know, it’s not that the human that human is bad. It could be bad because the truth is there bad humans, too?
00:55:36:14 – 00:55:57:13
Arturo Gaitan
There’s bad humans. Good humans. That’s the reality of things, you know, I used to think that all humanity was good. I still wanted to believe, like, in my purpose, my life purpose has to do with seeing a better humanity, you know, it started with that desire. What’s your first desire? I did my desire. I was a kid. You know, my desire is to see everybody in peace.
00:55:57:20 – 00:56:01:23
Nathan Crane
Yeah. That’s like, peaceful. I have peace.
00:56:02:00 – 00:56:26:08
Arturo Gaitan
Like, I know you’re done. You know it, like, oh, my God. So. But, yeah, that’s. It starts with a desire, and we cannot limit ourselves if our desires. The only thing that somebody has. Guess what? That’s great. Because next thing, that person might get a realization that the next thing could be a purpose and a good purpose if that’s what they want.
00:56:26:24 – 00:56:28:01
Arturo Gaitan
Yeah.
00:56:28:01 – 00:57:07:01
Nathan Crane
You know, it’s a good it’s a good point. I think the biggest key takeaway there is when you’re at peace, you’re going to you’re going to be happy. And so the key is finding peace. I think also to clarify that. Yeah, and I also don’t mean desires are bad and we shouldn’t have them. I guess what I’m getting at is that or at least what I’ve discovered in my own life is the desires that we have if if we can really tune in to our hearts, to our soul, to our highest self, and really discover what our higher desires are right and meaning that are connected with a higher purpose.
00:57:07:15 – 00:57:32:12
Nathan Crane
And then even then, the practice of not getting attached to that, not getting attached to the outcome of that, what in what the great you know, what the Bhagavad Gita talks about is, is bhakti and bhakta meaning devotional service to God. So whatever work you do, for example, you do it by not attaching to the fruits of your labor.
00:57:32:17 – 00:57:56:05
Nathan Crane
And so by doing that so good or bad, right? So whatever happens, whatever I do today in my job, in my work and my family doesn’t matter. Good, bad mistakes. Awesome, amazing. But don’t be attached to the outcome. Give that up. Give that up to God, for example. And that gives you that peace, right? Yeah. A simple example of this in my own life lately is like I’ve started playing basketball again.
00:57:56:17 – 00:58:01:22
Nathan Crane
And when I played basketball in the past, you know, if, if, when I saw that.
00:58:02:07 – 00:58:04:17
Arturo Gaitan
What you still have means for that.
00:58:04:21 – 00:58:05:03
Nathan Crane
Yeah.
00:58:05:11 – 00:58:36:09
Nathan Crane
Yeah. I mean, they’re, they’re holding together, you know, for the time being, hopefully forever. Yeah. There’s a little knee pain there, but, you know, not attached to not attached to the pain, letting that go. But in the past, like, you know, if I wasn’t playing well and we lost, like, I, you know, I’ve I’ve regulated and balanced my emotions so well over the last 20 years that if anything bothers me, it takes me 5 seconds to maybe a couple of minutes to be gone with it.
00:58:36:09 – 00:58:56:04
Nathan Crane
Right? Very rarely anymore in my life or something. I will hold on to it. It’s like, well, keep me in a in a let’s call it a negative emotion, sadness or whatever. So let’s call it like it would it would bother me, you know, 10%, 15% for a couple of minutes and then let it go. Well, now what I’m doing and this is so funny, right?
00:58:56:04 – 00:59:14:03
Nathan Crane
Talk about the lessons that God gives you when you commit to something as. I’m committing to this at an even deeper level, even in something as simple as playing basketball, that no matter what happens, win or lose, I stay at peace. I don’t get super excited about, Oh, my God, I won. Yeah, I don’t. And I don’t get upset about it.
00:59:14:03 – 00:59:38:13
Nathan Crane
I leave feeling happy and peaceful and content no matter what. And so since I started playing in the last few weeks and I have this joke with my daughter, with Luna, my daughter, oh, I’ve literally lost like every single game that I’ve played, every night. Like, I think maybe I’ve won like two now potentially, but like I really lost like, I don’t know, 20 or 30 games.
00:59:38:21 – 01:00:00:20
Nathan Crane
And I’ve just played terrible and like have just, you know, every single one. And I’m like, All right, I get it. Thank you. This is perfect. You know, thank you for this teaching, for this lesson. And I leave game feeling peaceful, content, happy. I’m like, if I’m going to do something like don’t be attached to the outcome of that no matter what it is, good or bad.
01:00:00:20 – 01:00:23:19
Nathan Crane
If I want to truly live a life of equanimity and peace and contentment and happiness and and for me, it’s working. You know, I can say that that is definitely working. And I can see in the past simple things or big things getting upset about something, not going the way I wanted it to or, you know, being attached to an outcome of something.
01:00:23:19 – 01:00:54:11
Nathan Crane
And yeah, getting so excited. All this happiness is great. We made all this money or we did all this or helped all these people. This is wonderful. But still, you know, that takes you on this rollercoaster, right? And it’s like ups and downs, ups and downs, ups and downs versus this kind of nice, even, you know, peacefulness and happiness in our lives that I think all of us I think I think that’s one thing all human beings have in common at a soul level, is that we want to we want to be at peace.
01:00:54:11 – 01:00:57:18
Nathan Crane
We want to have happiness. Whether people admit that or not, you know.
01:00:58:01 – 01:00:59:15
Nathan Crane
It’s like. Right, right. You know.
01:01:00:09 – 01:01:22:12
Nathan Crane
I’ve worked with I’ve worked with thousands and thousands of people as well, mostly cancer patients, mostly people going through chronic disease. And so I see the dark side, the challenges, the fears, the angers, the resentments, the self loathing, all these things. And every single person in common wants to at least have a sense of peace and contentment in their life.
01:01:23:00 – 01:01:37:00
Nathan Crane
And, you know, and there’s a way to do that. That’s what that’s what you teach people. And that’s what we’re saying here, is that there is a way to have that in your life. It’s not necessarily easy, but it’s simple, right?
01:01:37:07 – 01:01:40:00
Arturo Gaitan
Is simple, but not easy. You’re right.
01:01:40:03 – 01:01:45:21
Nathan Crane
I think you said one of your saying was always keep it simple. What was.
01:01:47:04 – 01:01:47:10
Arturo Gaitan
Meant.
01:01:48:00 – 01:01:54:03
Nathan Crane
Make. Yes. Oh, make it simple. What that.
01:01:54:03 – 01:02:18:08
Arturo Gaitan
Meant. What the heck? Why? You know, that’s the thing. I remember a graphic so good. I come up, apparently. Francesc I’ve been recording everything that I said has thousands and thousands of pages of content, things that I said, and I don’t remember anything.
01:02:18:08 – 01:02:23:06
Nathan Crane
I think it was a two part set. I mean, make it simple. Make it simple, right? That was one of the parts.
01:02:23:18 – 01:02:25:08
Arturo Gaitan
Be yourself. Make it simple.
01:02:25:09 – 01:02:34:13
Nathan Crane
Hey, be yourself, make it simple. And so talk about what that means to be yourself, because there’s a lot of deep meaning in that when you say be yourself.
01:02:35:01 – 01:02:57:12
Arturo Gaitan
Yes. So one of the very first thing that I notice and I’m going to put probably a simple example of this, I’m going to put it like, for example, a relationship. That’s when you can see that you are yourself or you’re not. And there is a big misconception, a very messed up misconception about that. I help a lot of people.
01:02:57:12 – 01:03:20:09
Arturo Gaitan
You know, I help people. I have kids in my practice. If I kids I have an 86 year old ladies that have a problem with other things, you know, with skin or something anyways. But a really good example of that is when you go into a relationship, any relationship, but let’s a specific love relationship, you are in a love relationship.
01:03:20:20 – 01:03:48:17
Arturo Gaitan
And I always said that a difference between a good relationship and a bad relationship is that, you know, be yourself and make it simple. So here it is. So there is this individual and this other individual. There’s two individuals that they are the way that they are it. They met each other. They like each other. I said they need to step out of themselves for a moment and get into this other circle where both of them are in the inside of the same circle.
01:03:49:11 – 01:04:13:20
Arturo Gaitan
And the biggest problem that comes up right there, and that’s a misconception about being yourself, is that these individuals, they is changing. Right. And if one of the individuals doesn’t exchange with the other or is not willing to exchange, they start saying like, oh, my God, you want to change me? This is who I am. And the other person is like, Well, you’re hurting me, you’re messed up.
01:04:13:20 – 01:04:34:14
Arturo Gaitan
Are you saying that you’re a messed up person and you’re not willing to modify that, not even for the relationship? See, that’s where the misconception is. People think that being yourself is being an asshole. Right. And and but you don’t feel or think of yourself like a narcissist. You just somebody else is letting you know this is what you’re doing.
01:04:34:14 – 01:04:59:21
Arturo Gaitan
And and people are, you know, being behind this shield of misconception shield that says, this is who I am. You want to accept me or not? Well, it all depends, right? If you’re inside of the circle where you want to have a relationship, you need to be willing to be the new your self, the new you every time.
01:04:59:21 – 01:05:28:21
Arturo Gaitan
See, because there is principles in the universe and the only constant is change. And we change and we are pushed to change. That’s why we are in a relationship, right? Because you’re pushing yourself to make some changes, some adjustments for yourself. So who you are, you are that person that you are an ass. But then you come to the conclusion that you’re hurting somebody and you can choose to dump B, you are that person.
01:05:28:21 – 01:05:54:13
Arturo Gaitan
You are the person that you don’t hurt that person anymore. And you can see your behavior and you can see and you decide to be better or not see. Being yourself is being willing to have that character, to have that essence that you’re born with, to be that soul that you are, but also be willing to transform yourself every second of the step, every step, every second of your life.
01:05:54:21 – 01:06:06:18
Arturo Gaitan
When change is presented and you don’t want to just hold still because nothing is going to move you, nothing is going to nothing is going to make you to have any type of change if that makes sense.
01:06:06:24 – 01:06:07:08
Nathan Crane
Mhm.
01:06:07:22 – 01:06:08:01
Nathan Crane
Yeah.
01:06:08:01 – 01:06:38:11
Arturo Gaitan
So is the willingness to be to have that character, to have all that combination of education, genes are influences from the stars, mercury, fucking retrograde, whatever it is, but also willing to step into the next second and the next moment of your life where you really realize that, okay, this is who I am. I am somebody that has I’m expanding just like the universe.
01:06:39:15 – 01:07:13:20
Arturo Gaitan
I am in polarity, just like the universe. I adapt just like the universe. And I have direction, just like the universe. Those four principles rule or life every day, and that help us to be who we are, not who we wear. Because I always said that we are now who we really are in the future, already who we are already, and because we’re building or selves in that way.
01:07:14:07 – 01:07:20:19
Arturo Gaitan
And at the end comes down again to the biggest power of everything. Choice.
01:07:20:19 – 01:07:21:02
Nathan Crane
Mm.
01:07:22:07 – 01:07:25:15
Arturo Gaitan
But that’s that, that would be that by definition for me you know.
01:07:25:16 – 01:07:46:02
Nathan Crane
Yeah. Yeah I know. It makes perfect sense. I think you know the big takeaway there for me is, is so true. What you said is everything’s changing always right. Every everything in this material universe is always changing. The yogis would say that the only thing that doesn’t change is your soul. And and God, that’s the only thing that’s infinite.
01:07:46:02 – 01:08:18:22
Nathan Crane
That’s never changing. That’s always pure. That’s untouched, untarnished. That cannot be affected by anything. But everything else is always changing. Always, you know, growing, dying, being created, being destroyed. And in recognizing that if we’re not changing, then what are we doing? You know, in a relationship we’re not changing. If we’re not looking at improving ourself, our behavior, our mentality, our spiritual well-being, our physical health, then what are we then we’re dying, right?
01:08:18:23 – 01:08:22:19
Nathan Crane
We’re We’re all dying slowly, every day anyway.
01:08:22:19 – 01:08:44:02
Arturo Gaitan
But can you imagine when you are reborn for those that believes in reincarnation, you’re going to reborn and you’re going through a spaceship. And this couple extraterrestrials are checking out. You have your backpack. Yes, you have all the same all the consciousness that you have in your in your in your soul. In your in your consciousness. Yes. Perfect.
01:08:44:02 – 01:08:55:05
Arturo Gaitan
Wait a second. Your. Did you know that you’re born as a mexican now? Okay. Okay. The you know that you used to hate Mexicans. We what.
01:08:55:10 – 01:08:56:15
Nathan Crane
Do you think of.
01:08:56:23 – 01:09:00:16
Arturo Gaitan
The previous life? You cannot do this this time. Now you’re going to pay for it.
01:09:00:21 – 01:09:21:24
Nathan Crane
Welcome to your karma, right? Yeah. Yeah. It’s so true, so funny. And I mean, you can if you’ve done past life, this is a crazy story. We could. We’re going to have to. I know we’re running out of time. There’s so many things that actually keep coming up there. Want to talk to you about this. That session I did with you.
01:09:22:17 – 01:09:45:21
Nathan Crane
Remember when when you got that the job for the the Mushroom Coffee Company? Oh, yes. Graphic design and websites and stuff. And you’re like, and you are bringing me along with you and you’re like, yeah, he can. He needs to be here to work with me. And because you were really just helping me out, I mean, I was I would have been lost without you at that time.
01:09:46:05 – 01:09:48:11
Nathan Crane
And you’re like, Yeah, yeah, he can do all this stuff and.
01:09:48:11 – 01:09:50:24
Arturo Gaitan
Like, good. I saw your capacity as.
01:09:50:24 – 01:09:52:13
Nathan Crane
You saw my.
01:09:52:13 – 01:09:53:06
Nathan Crane
Potential.
01:09:53:07 – 01:09:57:03
Arturo Gaitan
You need to start accepting that shared. Okay.
01:09:57:03 – 01:09:57:07
Nathan Crane
Yeah.
01:09:57:10 – 01:10:11:01
Nathan Crane
They’re like, yeah, you can you do websites? I was like, Yeah, like you can do graphic design. Yeah, you can do this. You can do that video editing. Yeah, yeah. I’d never done any of it. I was just like I’d same thing. I knew that I could do it also like interning. I was like, Yeah, of course I can.
01:10:11:01 – 01:10:23:11
Nathan Crane
Like I was so I had so much belief in a part of that was like, I was with you. I’m like, I’ll figure it out. He’ll teach me, will, you know? It’s like, I’ll figure it out and I’ll do a good job. And we did do a good job for them, actually. We did a really good job.
01:10:23:16 – 01:10:24:01
Arturo Gaitan
We did.
01:10:25:02 – 01:10:44:04
Nathan Crane
We did our websites and marketing and business cards and fliers and grew their, you know, salespeople and did all kinds of stuff. Anyway, we were in their office one day and you took me through some kind of what I thought was like a healing. I don’t remember why I think I was telling you something I was going through.
01:10:44:04 – 01:10:50:17
Nathan Crane
And you’re like, Well, let’s do this session. And I think you actually took me through a past life regression. Do you remember that?
01:10:51:13 – 01:11:16:05
Arturo Gaitan
Yeah, I have a I have one of the methods I have is a past life regression. I might do that a little bit different, little tiny different than whatever they have in hypnotherapy. There are because since little I, I believe that I can see the results. So yes, we did a it was a process of a past life.
01:11:16:20 – 01:11:29:15
Nathan Crane
So I never asked you that until now. I had that feeling that it was a past life regression. I didn’t know because because I saw myself as a yeti. You remember that?
01:11:29:15 – 01:11:33:11
Nathan Crane
I remember that, yes. Yeah.
01:11:33:15 – 01:11:43:02
Nathan Crane
You’re like you’re like, look down at your feet. I looked down at my feet. I just started laughing. I had a laugh a day I couldn’t stop for you laughing because they were so big and furry in there.
01:11:43:02 – 01:11:44:15
Nathan Crane
And I was like, What is this?
01:11:45:20 – 01:12:13:17
Nathan Crane
I looked at my body. I was like a full blown yeti, and I’m like, What is going on? I was just cracking up, you know? And, and then, but how I was like, how I was traveling was through, like, teleportation, but like portals. Here’s the crazy. Here’s why I never thought of that as, like, a past life regression until until recently was because there’s, there’s a modern day like a a spiritual teacher from India.
01:12:13:17 – 01:12:21:23
Nathan Crane
Today he goes by Shri M and he talks about the Yetis actually seeing great.
01:12:22:02 – 01:12:23:00
Arturo Gaitan
Human like shrimp.
01:12:24:01 – 01:12:27:14
Nathan Crane
Sri S.R. I saw. And then just the letter m.
01:12:27:15 – 01:12:28:23
Arturo Gaitan
M okay, god.
01:12:29:02 – 01:12:29:19
Nathan Crane
I am.
01:12:30:09 – 01:12:30:24
Arturo Gaitan
Talking about.
01:12:30:24 – 01:12:50:18
Nathan Crane
Actually seeing yetis in India and the yetis exist and they actually have these and I’ve heard about it somewhere else that they actually have and they stay hidden from humanity with certain powers and they actually have these ability to travel like interdimensional, like through portals and things like that. And I’m like, What? Wait, what? What are you guys talking about?
01:12:50:18 – 01:13:11:09
Nathan Crane
Like it was crazy to hear this. I’m like, I had this exact freaking experience in in a hypnosis session, in a meditation that Arturo guided me through when I was like, 21 years old, you know, like, whatever it was 16 years ago. And I’m like, and I did all these things. And then you guys are talking about actually living today yet is can do all of these things.
01:13:11:09 – 01:13:28:21
Nathan Crane
And it was crazy because the crazy thing about it was you didn’t influence one thing about that process, right? I remember the whole process and. All you did was ask questions the whole time, looked down. What do you see? Look up, what do you see? Where are you going now? What do you want to do? Well, you know, and all that stuff.
01:13:28:21 – 01:13:42:17
Nathan Crane
And it was like all these happened. And then I came out of it, I was like, that was crazy. There’s I just saw it as like a self healing, self loving thing, not as like a past life thing. And now I look back and like, maybe actually really was a yeti in a past life.
01:13:44:02 – 01:13:44:18
Nathan Crane
Oh, you’re.
01:13:44:18 – 01:13:47:22
Arturo Gaitan
Living in the beer and now you’re getting back to do it for self.
01:13:48:09 – 01:13:58:21
Nathan Crane
Right? Yeah. My feet, my feet don’t. They’re not as furry though. So you know. Oh my gosh.
01:13:59:16 – 01:14:04:10
Arturo Gaitan
Well, yeah, I remember. That was really, really cool.
01:14:04:10 – 01:14:19:16
Nathan Crane
That was really healing though too, because I remember at the end you had me look in the mirror and then and then hug myself and love myself and then merge those two into one. I remember I was like crying at one point. Like, it was a really powerful experience, actually. A super powerful.
01:14:20:05 – 01:14:43:23
Arturo Gaitan
Yeah. No, I have I just I find out. Well, I have this client, this lady that she was she has been suffering from. She went to the doctor and she has been suffering from fibroids on the womb, her into her womb. And she has fibroids. And they have she has a big like three big tumors. And so they’re going to do CAT scan.
01:14:43:23 – 01:15:07:06
Arturo Gaitan
And she came to me and so I’m asking her some questions. I’m doing an assessment. I look at her magnetic field. I’m like, okay, I think that they said you have a traumatic I think that this is coming from a traumatic event. And she’s like, how come? So I started getting more into assessment and I found out that something that happened to her before.
01:15:07:18 – 01:15:34:02
Arturo Gaitan
So I decided to do a time frame regression. I have a method that is other regression that I do. It’s a time frame. So I went there to scrape and reframe the, the what happened to her and. So she told me that the next day, the very next day, she start having a lot of cramps that night. But the next day a lot of law does start coming out of her body like a lot of blood.
01:15:34:02 – 01:16:00:23
Arturo Gaitan
And she said that she described like, it’s like a little alien come out of my body and and I’m like, okay. And she said, and guess what? I said, okay. What happened? She said Everything to stop. After the first day, everything is stopped. Three days after I went to to have my CAT scan because she had a lot of pain and they did a CAT scan and and they said, well, you don’t have to nurse anymore.
01:16:00:24 – 01:16:24:13
Arturo Gaitan
You don’t have fibroid, you have liquid like if something burst. Mm. Have the liquid that shows that something just burst and but you don’t have it anymore. Probably you might have a little tiny one. That was the size of the, the size of that point of a pencil or something, which is she’s like a it was a helium.
01:16:24:13 – 01:16:50:04
Arturo Gaitan
I said, I don’t know what it was, but the good things that you don’t have them anymore, you know, because happens is once a lot of people think that we we should supposed to suffer because that’s our punishment not necessarily if we get the lesson. You know, I understand that all of us we’ve been through things to become we are today.
01:16:50:24 – 01:17:19:20
Arturo Gaitan
The question is, do we need to go through that in order to to become who we are today? Not necessarily in life. Always give us the option to which we want to learn it through suffering and pain or through understanding. And we need to just practice become better in the way that we understand things. And that’s that’s why my entire purpose in this is just to help people to heal is very simple for me.
01:17:20:10 – 01:17:39:01
Arturo Gaitan
If somebody feel a stock, it doesn’t matter if it’s for a day or a decade or whatever time it is, it is if there a rule for me, if you feel a stock about anything or you can’t see a future, you cannot see the reaction or anything. Something is trying to come out and tell you, I need a healing period.
01:17:39:21 – 01:18:02:23
Arturo Gaitan
It needs to be healed and then you need to reprogram. Because a lot of people go into healing and they say, oh, is the brain, is that the truth is it is our entire body. And as I said, we we’ve been to leave in planetary time instead of universal time. See planetary, time has a different vibration, that universal time in planetary time.
01:18:03:06 – 01:18:33:09
Arturo Gaitan
We live in a 24 seven 365. So tomorrow at 10 a.m. today at 10 a.m., tomorrow is going to be 10 a.m.. Okay, that’s it. So it’s always the same time. So the formula there is time equals time. We live in a circle and in a cycle, right? But then when we go back and says like, okay, ten years ago, we go back in time, ten years ago, the reality of our universe on the planet is like we keep moving.
01:18:33:09 – 01:18:57:15
Arturo Gaitan
We’re not in the same space that we were ten years ago. I call that universal time. Universal time allows you to be a little bit healthier, you know, allows you to be a little bit more successful in whatever way you want to be, because in this vibration, you don’t have the day to be stuck in time because the formula here would be distance equals time.
01:18:57:24 – 01:19:23:00
Arturo Gaitan
So a distance requires actions and that is going to be making your time to be in a different perception because at the end, your life is built by your perception of how you perceive life. So consciously or consciously, that’s how your life is going to be. But when you measure time by distance, you can speed up or slow down or don’t move.
01:19:23:16 – 01:19:43:23
Arturo Gaitan
But in time you almost never move. If you if you think about it in time, just in time, you know, next week is going to be next week in the morning. And then look back and you’re like, Oh, where’s my black hair? Where’s my curly long hair? Oh, your bulb.
01:19:44:17 – 01:19:45:03
Nathan Crane
It’s like.
01:19:45:10 – 01:20:05:24
Arturo Gaitan
It’s gone time gone. But in the distance it doesn’t matter because you keep moving forward because you keep doing something for yourself and from others. If that’s your purpose, if that makes sense. So healing and reprograming, that is that is very much that is my passion is healing program and training, good.
01:20:05:24 – 01:20:27:03
Nathan Crane
Experiences and everybody needs it. All of us need it. And with the time thing, yeah, I mean, time is just a measurement. I mean that’s the reality, right? It’s like we just measure the distance that it takes to go somewhere. If you stop the measurement, this time actually exists.
01:20:27:03 – 01:20:29:13
Arturo Gaitan
Exactly. I mean, that’s why.
01:20:29:13 – 01:20:37:13
Nathan Crane
I wrote this whole thesis that was arguing against your gentleman there on the wall. The Theory of reality. Yeah.
01:20:38:06 – 01:20:39:20
Arturo Gaitan
You know why I have a theory, right?
01:20:40:05 – 01:20:40:12
Nathan Crane
Huh?
01:20:41:06 – 01:20:43:00
Arturo Gaitan
Oh, you have an idea. I have it here.
01:20:43:05 – 01:20:45:09
Nathan Crane
I don’t know.
01:20:45:09 – 01:21:12:21
Arturo Gaitan
I’ve been telling everybody, you know, I respect everything. You know, I respect smart people. I respect no smart people. I have respect for everybody. But I don’t agree with certain things. When they told me that he was little and he defended a kid on the school, that the teacher was taken advantage, the teacher was saying that God exists or doesn’t exist and evil exists and Einstein started start telling it.
01:21:12:21 – 01:21:45:16
Arturo Gaitan
Start telling the the teacher, okay, does darkness exist? The teacher says yes. And that Einstein says. No, it’s just an absence of light. Whoa. I we didn’t pay attention to the question. But anyway, will and then it’s like, what does God that exists? And the teacher are nor does evil exist. And the teacher says, Yeah. I said, No, it’s an absence of God.
01:21:46:05 – 01:21:57:18
Arturo Gaitan
Well, I said, Motherfucker, wait a second. Those are darkness exist. Yes, he does, even if it’s when there is an absence of light. But there does.
01:21:57:18 – 01:21:58:05
Nathan Crane
Exist.
01:21:59:18 – 01:22:28:04
Arturo Gaitan
Right? Those evil exist. Do you want any more proof? Do you want any more proof? What I mean is just a perspective. And that’s why I have this, because he’s always reminding me to be more honest and accept when we are wrong, you know, accept when we are wrong. And I have it here now because I super admired I admire his work, but I don’t admire that bullshit.
01:22:28:11 – 01:22:31:01
Arturo Gaitan
So reminds me, Arturo never become a bullshitter.
01:22:31:06 – 01:22:33:05
Nathan Crane
I’m.
01:22:33:05 – 01:22:35:13
Arturo Gaitan
And try to catch yourself if you’re doing it.
01:22:36:01 – 01:22:37:22
Nathan Crane
Yeah, yeah, but not way.
01:22:38:19 – 01:22:38:23
Arturo Gaitan
Then.
01:22:39:03 – 01:22:39:17
Nathan Crane
I love it.
01:22:40:01 – 01:22:42:11
Arturo Gaitan
Ah, sorry.
01:22:42:11 – 01:22:42:24
Nathan Crane
No.
01:22:43:08 – 01:23:06:21
Nathan Crane
That’s awesome. No, I mean, brilliant man, for sure, but yeah, we can. We, the intellect will get us into trouble if we, if we allow it to. Right. Yeah. And just bullshit ourselves and others trying to convince ourselves of something so extraordinary when sometimes it’s so much more simple than that. So I know we’ve only got a few minutes left.
01:23:06:21 – 01:23:31:00
Nathan Crane
I still want to talk to you about some other things, but, um, maybe we’ll have to do this again in the future if you’re up for it. You know, this has been. No, it’s been awesome. Our church has been so good to reconnect with you. And you always bring such interesting perspectives to my life and interesting things to think about and laughter and joy and.
01:23:31:00 – 01:23:46:24
Nathan Crane
It’s know it’s been really awesome to to reconnect with you and yeah how can people get in touch with you if they I mean I know you do coaching and have online programs and you’ve got a lot going on. Like what’s the best place for people to follow you and connect your website, all that stuff.
01:23:47:22 – 01:24:24:19
Arturo Gaitan
So I’m a weird social creature, so I’m not exactly social, but somebody does social for me, apparently. I don’t know. I don’t have a lot of following. I’ve been kind of underground entire life, but my website is Arturo Gaitan with I Can See Why. For Gaitan, I think that in English people pronounce it Gaytan Arturo Gaitan dot com and I’m probably in and I people can cannot know a little bit more probably how I work I have an app.
01:24:25:11 – 01:24:32:19
Arturo Gaitan
My app is called Arturo just the name Arturo. That’s my app. In the app store and on the Google play. Well, I did that.
01:24:32:20 – 01:24:35:11
Nathan Crane
You got lucky with that. Just your first name.
01:24:36:03 – 01:24:36:09
Nathan Crane
Yeah.
01:24:36:23 – 01:25:17:19
Arturo Gaitan
And then there I have a like a free seven day transmutation meditation. This is some meditation that I come up with long time ago that helps you to reprogram. They can try and check it out. I have I have an upcoming event on there October eight is it has to do talking about where all the the key of all your suffering starts in this lifetime that has to do with a womb is the event is going to be called womb like the womb that we inside of our moms during pregnancy is going to be womb and they can access that in our thoroughly standard com forward slash womb.
01:25:18:03 – 01:26:02:22
Arturo Gaitan
There is a simple page where they can they can submit a form so we can send them an invitation. I’m just going to send invitations to whoever subscribed there. And this is for a little webinar that I’m going to do on the eight, where I’m going to be explaining a lot of the things that I do. And because I’m updating one of my programs, I have a program that has to do with 100% healing and reprograming and it’s in and the update is starting in November, but I want to give some information before that and that this is a program that been in the market for probably 3 to 4 years already.
01:26:03:06 – 01:26:34:15
Arturo Gaitan
I have a big group of people that have it done and I’m doing an update and I’m going to do it live. So it’s going to be more comprehensive. It’s already a monster of a program, and my purpose is to create a mega monster so nobody else needs anymore psychiatry or medicine or drugs or things like that. But yeah, if they want to look up to that and I have a little store also, I own a little metaphysical store in San Diego.
01:26:34:15 – 01:27:04:20
Arturo Gaitan
It is called Be Intuitive and they find me there and they find me online as Arturo great time dot com and if they want to check it out what’s coming for was slash womb and for that is if a given or I guess are in Instagram I think that my name is Dawn Arturo I think that is own like a mr. Arturo but in the Spanish Don Arturo Dio and and then Arturo or Don Arturo Gaitan, something like that.
01:27:05:06 – 01:27:18:14
Arturo Gaitan
And I think that I have Facebook too, and not sure I do, man. You know, I’m a little introverted with all that social thing.
01:27:18:14 – 01:27:27:18
Nathan Crane
But our job I found you on. Okay, you have to be intuitive center on Instagram you have Arturo metaphysics on.
01:27:27:19 – 01:27:31:14
Arturo Gaitan
That one and I had one that’s see I don’t even know that.
01:27:32:20 – 01:28:04:18
Nathan Crane
Arturo metaphysics there. Now I’m following you. Awesome. But you got a little baby Yoda on there, it looks like. So Arturo that’s g.I to and Arturo Gaitan dot com you do sessions with people too as well write individual sessions and forward slash womb for that upcoming webinar. So awesome dude. Thanks so much for coming on the podcast. It’s been yeah it’s a real truly, truly awesome to reconnect with you.
01:28:05:07 – 01:28:28:20
Arturo Gaitan
Yes. And your me too. Very nice to see you. And say hi to all the family and send you a lot of blessings, a big hug for everybody. And, you know, always sending good the sprinkle of magic for having a lot of good life and a lot of happiness and just just get in peace and be happy and enjoy this.
01:28:29:13 – 01:28:51:01
Arturo Gaitan
Come down that life is a freaking countdown and we is our responsibility to leave the past that we want to understand or not. It doesn’t really matter. But at the end, this is your life and you decide how you want it to be. And at the end you’re not going to be able to take not even your body.
01:28:51:12 – 01:29:07:20
Arturo Gaitan
But you can take all your experiences, you can take all your feelings, you can take everything with yourself. And that’s the scary part. You’re going to come back at some point with all those experiences back, so you fuck it up, you’re going to have to pay for it. That’s a lot of little.
01:29:07:20 – 01:29:08:23
Nathan Crane
Okay, well.
01:29:09:06 – 01:29:11:05
Arturo Gaitan
Let’s let let’s do the.
01:29:11:05 – 01:29:13:08
Nathan Crane
Best do the best that you can now.
01:29:13:12 – 01:29:13:23
Nathan Crane
Yes.
01:29:14:11 – 01:29:16:00
Arturo Gaitan
Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate it.
01:29:16:12 – 01:29:20:06
Nathan Crane
Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate you so much.
01:29:20:21 – 01:29:21:10
Arturo Gaitan
All right.
01:29:21:21 – 01:29:22:06
Nathan Crane
All right.
01:29:23:10 – 01:29:23:16
Arturo Gaitan
Bye.